The red line on the stickers has a purpose. Grab them at that little section and you will easily get your fingernail under the plastic there. This section is never glued. 🕐🍸🍸
The case of the third one is pure Majetek: issued to the Czech army by Eterna and Longines (and recently reissued by Longines). So a fitted rubber strap would have been completely inappropriate...
If it weren't for the yellow on the dial that bronze would be an instant pickup. Impressive line up all around and would consider them all on any ali sale.
Bronze has never appealed to me as a material for watch cases, and this Flieger hasn’t changed my mind. The GMT was the star of the show, but it also didn’t have much competition
A nice trio Jody! As my daughter would say when she was starting to talk, I like the one in the miggle. 😁 I think, apart from the dial, SM did make an effort to make the Patek homage look different enough not to be confused with the original. I don't like the design of either to be honest.
Just received this original San Martin which is fabulous design: San Martin 2023 New 38.5mm Retro Men Pilot Watch Original Design Carved Coin Bezel YN55 NH35 Automatic Mechanical Sapphire 10Bar! My new favorite.
First time finding your reviews, enjoyed your delivery. Have to say, the first watch is right up my street, liking the clarity and finish. Bronze patina will look great over time… your channel now has notifications firmly on….
Another great video Jody, 1. The fleiger is very nice, but up against similarly priced alternatives from the likes of Laco… I think “heritage” can be overstated in the watch space… but it plays a part and in this case I’d seriously look at “the original “ (or one them) brands. 2. In many ways I think the San Martin is the better choice than the Tudor… better set of dimensions than the Tudor, especially case height… similar level of finish… out of the three shown today I think this is SM’s biggest “win”. I’d love to see a three-way review between the Tudor, the San Martin and the Timex Q homage… The last watch is clearly influenced by the aquanaut, but very much it’s own design… I find the aquanaut quite an “awkward” looking watch, the rounded off polygonal bezel a bit too rounded off, so it’s neither one thing or the other… a polygon or a circle… I actually think the San Martin case is a less jarring design. I’m not a fan of the protruding (oversized?) unprotected crown on the SM on this model though, just doesn’t work as well as the more integrated crown on the Aquanaut (oh, I have seen one in the flesh, up close on wrist, and it’s a lovely thing… but not $20k lovely… imho… Veblen pricing eh? Not going to work on me or many of my fellow Scotsmen I suspect Jody!
@joeykennedyloa2567 He won't. I am newbie in this hobby (meaning no fanboism or any form of bias) checking any video on the subject to learn more. To my surprise there is always the 'buy ICW', 'get Laco', checkout this brand for no helpful reason given guy🫤
Hey Jody, the third watch with the PP Aquanaut dial, seems to have a 1:1 case with my old Tag Heuer CR2111 Monza. The dial is obviously faux-Patek, but the case seems to be identical to the Tag Heuer Monza.
The GMT is not a 1:1 copy. It's improved the original. Smaller diameter, thinner case, cleaner bracelet (no fake rivets), better designed hands (the GMT one is more legible and its diamond and that of the seconds hand are aligned). So, definetely a better watch 😊
1. Bronze the clear winner. Nice focuses design. 2. The Timex even looks cheap and nasty thousands of miles away here in LA. 3. Nice except … WTF with the huge 12 triangle and the 3,6,&9 batons? If you’re doing an homage, don’t f up the dial, which on the Patek is perfect. Thanks for the video, Jody!
Three nice pieces from San Martin and another great video from Jody. As we've come to expect from both of them now. I've reviewed a couple of interesting ones myself fairly recently too. One of which was a Benrus homage. The other was a pretty cool combination of bronze and titanium.
Jody you missed the Eterna 1939, whose case the third watch prertt much copies. It looks a lot less like the Patek, which really isn't what this watch was trying to ape. Even the SM's caseback is largely the same as Eterna's 2014 reissue of the original from 1939.
I already have the 1st one bronze fleiger,lovely watch. I must admit l would like the Tudor style GMT,be a nice extra to my growing collection of San Martins.
Very impressive with all 3 watches. My first San Martin was around 5 years, was the 62mas with a with a beautiful back case in grave, I think for money there asking, there up there in my humble opinion, you're not breaking bank..great content as always Jody.
Love the Type A Flieger and the "Tudor" GMT. I like the supposed original "Patek" also, but it's my least favorite of the three. If I were going to have someone buy one of these for me, I'd take the Flieger. I'm overall a huge fan of San Martin, though I own only one, a Type B Flieger. EDIT: Soon I'll own that Type A -- order placed.
Jody, on a side note I wouldn’t consider the Timex hands to be Mercedes. If you look at the hour hand, it forms a T (for Timex) and not the Mercedes three point star.
I really love San Martin and wanna support them (and do) but one thing I'm really tired of is that they keep giving reviewers the nice green leather boxes but then when you order yourself you get that crappy ol' generic diving suitcase. I'd rather they charged $5-10 more and give that full nice experience. It would elevate everything and their customers would be more likely to gift and share with others.
Bought one, was given one rather with the nice green box... and the tools etc...but it didn't fit and it took me ages to get an extra link to make it fit. San Martin thinks only Hobbits live in Europe?
Love the Flieger. I have the Steel Dive version, which is nice but it has the date complication...which doesn't look appropriate on this style watch IMHO.
I still haven’t come around to bronze watches yet. That BB GMT is probably my favorite SM Homage. I actually like that original Patek Homage. Mainly because my collection is a little diver heavy and I need something different. Looking forward to the 30 Watch unboxing Documentary!
Really you can have all the “luxury” watches you like. If you don’t mind it says San Martin. They are 100m water resist. One big hitter like a Rolex, Breitling or Omega. The rest can be fun to collect San Martin is really good.
San Martin are making it increasingly hard to justify spending 10-20x more, and if you've already spent that kind of money like me, you might be scratching your head a little...but will still buy from Helvetia 😂
I like the 3rd one the best. So much so that I bought the one on the bracelet SN0026-G-A. I like the dimensions of the gmt better than the original, but I do have smaller wrists and a 40mm is about as big as I like.
I would say it’s pretty original… I suppose it depends on your viewpoint. If you consider the Tudor Black Bay an original watch, then you have to give the San Martin it’s due. There is only so much you can do with a watches design at this point in time…
An excellent trippple unbbboxing! And I'm quite surprised* by my reaction to each watch: I've never ever been tempted to buy a bronze watch - until now! This Flieger looks terrific and it would be lovely to see the bronze mature over time! I prefer the sizing of the GMT over the Tudor - so that's a win too! Shame about the rattly first link of the bracelet, but a minor matter though. And I have NEVER seen a Patek Philippe that I actually like - until now! This SN0026 is much easier on the eye! And not to mention the hip pocket! So 3 out of 3 from me! *But as were talking about San Martin, perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised at all! 😄
It’s a shame that first link on Jody’s GMT watch is loose. I have the same watch and the bracelet is crisp!…. No jiggly janggly. It is a stunna in my book
The Fliegr...i dunno. I like my type B Hamilton better. The GMT reminds me more of a Timex Q..but no Snoopy and no hair ripping but obviously to you as well. Hmmm are you saying San Martin copied something? I thought that was only Pagani! I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! Thanks for the great revkew as always!
bronze flieger is well done but not my style and dive watches send me to sleep-just so many….so i like the patek one the most. it does seem pretty original to me as its not a straight homage. I dont own a san martin…yet…but maybe i’ll wait for the jomw offering first! nice review as usual!
SM should have gone with a tapisserie dial with a lighter color for the third watch (a la Tissot PRX Powermatic 80), so it's not a blatant homage of the Patek.
Never had a Timex last more than six months. Bought one on a whim at Wally World and the date complication broke the same day. On the contrary, I have several Citizens that are 10+ years old and still going strong. I want to like Timex cause some of their new designs are lovely but yea, I can’t give them another dime of my dough.
TL;DR We have homages for Bronce IWC, the bronce is a nice touch, I wish the markers were a diferent colour. Tudor Black Bay, strange enough the dimentions set it just enough apart from the actual Black Bay Pattek Phillipe, the so called "original" is the most fatifull homage of the bunch. all in all San Martin is quickly becoming my favorite homage brand to look at.
The first Bronze watch is so close to the IWC it is uncanny. The last watch is a nice PP homage looking watch. Reviewed the Orient Crimson Babmino 8 (yet to hit Australia) and that looks outstanding as well (on another site).
Well, despite the fact i hate rip-off like these, this follows the luftwaffe's flieger specs from ww2. This isn't a IWC exclusive, not even close. Actually the real ones were Stowa, Laco and A. Lang & söhne, just to name a few
That last Patek style looks pretty much exactly like a model from Undone watches. It's called Terra Safari. Numerals are a bit different but appart from that it's the same watch. Look it up. Seriously it looks like they just added the San Martin logo and text.
Fun fact: the eye detects yellow as brighter than white. (Yellow highlighter ink seems to jump off the page, doesn't it?). As a result, a bright yellow text on a black background is the highest contrast you can get.
The truly beautiful bit of the Aquanaut is the movement and its finishing; they've duplicated the ugly part of that watch with absolutely no attempt at the interesting part.
7" wrist as well...still on the fence on the Dekla you reviewed before. Seems 41mm would be the best choice for me too, although only 40mm and 42mm when it comes to Dekla.
If they had only not had the grid on the dial. I do like a cushion though. This would look more like a Magrette otherwise (which would also explain the leather)
The red line on the stickers has a purpose. Grab them at that little section and you will easily get your fingernail under the plastic there. This section is never glued. 🕐🍸🍸
Yeah that wasn’t very doctor of dr JOMW😂
@@nintendokings LOL Always glad to help the doctor out.
The case of the third one is pure Majetek: issued to the Czech army by Eterna and Longines (and recently reissued by Longines). So a fitted rubber strap would have been completely inappropriate...
One of my favorite things about Tuesday evenings is watching a new JOMW after I get home from the long day.
Thanks for what you do. It's appreciated
Picking up a freshly squeezed JOMW is always nice. Nice tee today, Jody👍
I just picked up the Flieger for $103 with coupons and coins. What a great price!
I'm not usually big on AquaNautilus type watches but this one impressed me. Gorgeous finishing!
The Flieger was instantly my favorite one here too. It’s really nice! And for that money with that quality…a steal!
Wow, that "Aquanaut" is super cool!
If it weren't for the yellow on the dial that bronze would be an instant pickup. Impressive line up all around and would consider them all on any ali sale.
Bronze has never appealed to me as a material for watch cases, and this Flieger hasn’t changed my mind. The GMT was the star of the show, but it also didn’t have much competition
Bronze is such a fun material to watch as it ages...on other people's wrists, I can do without, I'll pass! 😄
That last one also reminds me of the Mido Multifort TV that was released relatively recently…
A nice trio Jody! As my daughter would say when she was starting to talk, I like the one in the miggle. 😁 I think, apart from the dial, SM did make an effort to make the Patek homage look different enough not to be confused with the original. I don't like the design of either to be honest.
Just received this original San Martin which is fabulous design: San Martin 2023 New 38.5mm Retro Men Pilot Watch Original Design Carved Coin Bezel YN55 NH35 Automatic Mechanical Sapphire 10Bar! My new favorite.
First time finding your reviews, enjoyed your delivery. Have to say, the first watch is right up my street, liking the clarity and finish. Bronze patina will look great over time… your channel now has notifications firmly on….
He's absolutely the best watch reviewer on UA-cam.
Another great video Jody,
1. The fleiger is very nice, but up against similarly priced alternatives from the likes of Laco… I think “heritage” can be overstated in the watch space… but it plays a part and in this case I’d seriously look at “the original “ (or one them) brands.
2. In many ways I think the San Martin is the better choice than the Tudor… better set of dimensions than the Tudor, especially case height… similar level of finish… out of the three shown today I think this is SM’s biggest “win”. I’d love to see a three-way review between the Tudor, the San Martin and the Timex Q homage…
The last watch is clearly influenced by the aquanaut, but very much it’s own design… I find the aquanaut quite an “awkward” looking watch, the rounded off polygonal bezel a bit too rounded off, so it’s neither one thing or the other… a polygon or a circle… I actually think the San Martin case is a less jarring design. I’m not a fan of the protruding (oversized?) unprotected crown on the SM on this model though, just doesn’t work as well as the more integrated crown on the Aquanaut (oh, I have seen one in the flesh, up close on wrist, and it’s a lovely thing… but not $20k lovely… imho… Veblen pricing eh? Not going to work on me or many of my fellow Scotsmen I suspect Jody!
Where would i get a bronze flieger from iwc, laco or stowa for a similar price?
I’ve not noted a fleigher from any of the traditional brands for near this. If you know of a source, I’d love to buy!!!
I got my San Martin flieger type B for ~106$ .... not even close to the Laco or Stowa prices.
@joeykennedyloa2567 He won't. I am newbie in this hobby (meaning no fanboism or any form of bias) checking any video on the subject to learn more. To my surprise there is always the 'buy ICW', 'get Laco', checkout this brand for no helpful reason given guy🫤
Hey Jody, the third watch with the PP Aquanaut dial, seems to have a 1:1 case with my old Tag Heuer CR2111 Monza. The dial is obviously faux-Patek, but the case seems to be identical to the Tag Heuer Monza.
The nail care is much appreciated 😅 cheers.
The GMT is not a 1:1 copy. It's improved the original. Smaller diameter, thinner case, cleaner bracelet (no fake rivets), better designed hands (the GMT one is more legible and its diamond and that of the seconds hand are aligned). So, definetely a better watch 😊
Sure it is, buddy. Sure it is.
1. Bronze the clear winner. Nice focuses design.
2. The Timex even looks cheap and nasty thousands of miles away here in LA.
3. Nice except … WTF with the huge 12 triangle and the 3,6,&9 batons? If you’re doing an homage, don’t f up the dial, which on the Patek is perfect.
Thanks for the video, Jody!
The "original design" watch is lovely
The San Martin medallion logo is a nice fit to the snowflake hour hand
I LOVE bronze watches. I like that fleigher very much. I have one in bronze, but I may need another few.
Three nice pieces from San Martin and another great video from Jody. As we've come to expect from both of them now.
I've reviewed a couple of interesting ones myself fairly recently too. One of which was a Benrus homage. The other was a pretty cool combination of bronze and titanium.
Jody you missed the Eterna 1939, whose case the third watch prertt much copies. It looks a lot less like the Patek, which really isn't what this watch was trying to ape. Even the SM's caseback is largely the same as Eterna's 2014 reissue of the original from 1939.
I have a 37mm bronze San Martin "Flieger" that I got for around 120$ early this year and it is pretty much my perfect sized flieger.
I've never really considered a flieger but this one is spot on.
I already have the 1st one bronze fleiger,lovely watch. I must admit l would like the Tudor style GMT,be a nice extra to my growing collection of San Martins.
Thanks to you and Omega, I am proud owner of SM57' panda face ST19. Bracelet is not perfect but other than that - WOW!
Copy or not, that last one is nicest of the bunch for me.
Very impressive with all 3 watches. My first San Martin was around 5 years, was the 62mas with a with a beautiful back case in grave, I think for money there asking, there up there in my humble opinion, you're not breaking bank..great content as always Jody.
Honestly Jody. You just keep rocking video after video. Thank you. I would be lost as a collector without you. Merci!
Love the Type A Flieger and the "Tudor" GMT. I like the supposed original "Patek" also, but it's my least favorite of the three. If I were going to have someone buy one of these for me, I'd take the Flieger. I'm overall a huge fan of San Martin, though I own only one, a Type B Flieger. EDIT: Soon I'll own that Type A -- order placed.
Hi Jody, the 5176A is not a Patek copy. The dial might be but the housing is a 1 to 1 copy of the Tag Heuer Monza WR2110
I like the Flieger with the sterile dial (not a big fan of the San Martin logo) and I’m intrigued by the bronze.
Jody, on a side note I wouldn’t consider the Timex hands to be Mercedes. If you look at the hour hand, it forms a T (for Timex) and not the Mercedes three point star.
Theres some Sean Connery vibe when you say "stickers" 😎
Other than movement, materials of construction, depth rating and model number the sterile case backs and crowns are preferable IMO.
Notification squad 💪🏽
Reporting for duty!
Jody, third San Martin's case look's rather like old Longines "Majetek" without a bezel.
I really love San Martin and wanna support them (and do) but one thing I'm really tired of is that they keep giving reviewers the nice green leather boxes but then when you order yourself you get that crappy ol' generic diving suitcase. I'd rather they charged $5-10 more and give that full nice experience. It would elevate everything and their customers would be more likely to gift and share with others.
It seems to be pot luck what you get!
@@MattGDesign Really?
Bought one, was given one rather with the nice green box... and the tools etc...but it didn't fit and it took me ages to get an extra link to make it fit. San Martin thinks only Hobbits live in Europe?
@@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Maybe people who get the fancy leather boxes get the small watches. 🤣
A certain Jody gave me a bronze Aquatico some years back.. I still treasure it
I liked the Patek look a like. Throw a Barton silicone strap and give the style a shot.
10:40 I had possibly a Timex like that in the 70s.
Say Jody- You should give the San Martin Benrus type 1 homage a go on the channel. Just bought one and i love it
I have reviewed the SN0131 which is the third watch but with a circle bezel and BOR bracelets. Looks much better than the one shown here.
I really like the GMT! I own the Millsub San Martin and Im super happy with it. I believe San Martins clasps are also milled and not pressed
Nice watches, except for the one with the Pepsicola ring. Don't dive, don't want to dive, I moped, the Flieger is just right for that :)
Good review again. SM do make great watches for th money. Always entertaining and informative, grat job.
I love that San Martin doesn't clone tudors. Bracelet links with no lugs and more compact cases are all welcomed changes.
Should do a dial swap on the Patekalike think the case shape has potential.
Love the Flieger. I have the Steel Dive version, which is nice but it has the date complication...which doesn't look appropriate on this style watch IMHO.
I still haven’t come around to bronze watches yet. That BB GMT is probably my favorite SM Homage. I actually like that original Patek Homage. Mainly because my collection is a little diver heavy and I need something different. Looking forward to the 30 Watch unboxing Documentary!
Thanks Jody!
C'mon, Jody, a 55mm flieger will fit you just fine - strapped on over the sleeve of your winter northern Europe flight jacket!
He might find that a bit warm in Aus!
Really you can have all the “luxury” watches you like. If you don’t mind it says San Martin. They are 100m water resist. One big hitter like a Rolex, Breitling or Omega. The rest can be fun to collect San Martin is really good.
San Martin are making it increasingly hard to justify spending 10-20x more, and if you've already spent that kind of money like me, you might be scratching your head a little...but will still buy from Helvetia 😂
very nice.. but my fav is the gmt.... cheers
The 3rd watch has a case and dial design more similar to Undone Terra.
I like the 3rd one the best. So much so that I bought the one on the bracelet SN0026-G-A.
I like the dimensions of the gmt better than the original, but I do have smaller wrists and a 40mm is about as big as I like.
I would say it’s pretty original… I suppose it depends on your viewpoint. If you consider the Tudor Black Bay an original watch, then you have to give the San Martin it’s due. There is only so much you can do with a watches design at this point in time…
An excellent trippple unbbboxing! And I'm quite surprised* by my reaction to each watch: I've never ever been tempted to buy a bronze watch - until now! This Flieger looks terrific and it would be lovely to see the bronze mature over time! I prefer the sizing of the GMT over the Tudor - so that's a win too! Shame about the rattly first link of the bracelet, but a minor matter though. And I have NEVER seen a Patek Philippe that I actually like - until now! This SN0026 is much easier on the eye! And not to mention the hip pocket! So 3 out of 3 from me! *But as were talking about San Martin, perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised at all! 😄
It’s a shame that first link on Jody’s GMT watch is loose. I have the same watch and the bracelet is crisp!…. No jiggly janggly. It is a stunna in my book
The Fliegr...i dunno. I like my type B Hamilton better. The GMT reminds me more of a Timex Q..but no Snoopy and no hair ripping but obviously to you as well. Hmmm are you saying San Martin copied something? I thought that was only Pagani! I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! Thanks for the great revkew as always!
Jody, we are still waiting for your review of the Fiece Nautilus and the Fiece Royal Oak watch model.
bronze flieger is well done but not my style and dive watches send me to sleep-just so many….so i like the patek one the most. it does seem pretty original to me as its not a straight homage. I dont own a san martin…yet…but maybe i’ll wait for the jomw offering first! nice review as usual!
The last San Martin looks more like an Eterna Heritage Military 1939 to me Jody, but it still is not an original design as you said 😅
Flieger looks very nice. I wonder how it looks with the patina. Great review as usual. 😊
SM should have gone with a tapisserie dial with a lighter color for the third watch (a la Tissot PRX Powermatic 80), so it's not a blatant homage of the Patek.
Never had a Timex last more than six months. Bought one on a whim at Wally World and the date complication broke the same day. On the contrary, I have several Citizens that are 10+ years old and still going strong. I want to like Timex cause some of their new designs are lovely but yea, I can’t give them another dime of my dough.
Jody, when are we going to hear more about YOUR OWN WATCH?! The suspense is killing me.
TL;DR
We have homages for
Bronce IWC, the bronce is a nice touch, I wish the markers were a diferent colour.
Tudor Black Bay, strange enough the dimentions set it just enough apart from the actual Black Bay
Pattek Phillipe, the so called "original" is the most fatifull homage of the bunch.
all in all San Martin is quickly becoming my favorite homage brand to look at.
The first Bronze watch is so close to the IWC it is uncanny. The last watch is a nice PP homage looking watch. Reviewed the Orient Crimson Babmino 8 (yet to hit Australia) and that looks outstanding as well (on another site).
Well, despite the fact i hate rip-off like these, this follows the luftwaffe's flieger specs from ww2. This isn't a IWC exclusive, not even close. Actually the real ones were Stowa, Laco and A. Lang & söhne, just to name a few
And... Just to point out how stupid is the IWC's marketing they named a luftwaffe's style watch as the RAF's fighter spitfire😂😂😂
@@fedomandez Would this kinda person search for Fiat or Volkswagen reviews, just to tell everyone to get a Ferrari or Porsche? 🤷🏻♂️
Really considering the "Pelagos" with the date window from San Martin. Looks great in mat black
I like the last of the 3 San Martin homage watches. Looks great would be even better if they made it with a date complication.
I love the 3rd one
Out of my 6 San Martins the Tudor Gmt is my favorite.
Wow! I love the first one! Would love to get as my NY present. Jody, from experience, those chinese brand they change collections often, right?
I would like to see San Martin and some other brands Pagani etc to start focusing on some original models
San Martin has already have.
That last Patek style looks pretty much exactly like a model from Undone watches. It's called Terra Safari. Numerals are a bit different but appart from that it's the same watch. Look it up. Seriously it looks like they just added the San Martin logo and text.
Morning Jody ⌚️
Great review, mate! I'd strongly consider the flieger if it wasn't for the yellow fauxtina
I just ordered their big bronze pilots with sub seconds blue dial.
The Flieger is nice. But I must admit I'm a fan of that 'Samtek Mhillipe'.
I love all my san Martin watches
I don't see a Patek Aquanaut so much as I see a cross between an Aquanaut and an IWC Mark XV.
I sidestepped the whole bronze watch fad, and glad I did.
Chinese sweatshop specials arrived. Nice to see the video but not a chance in hell these will come near my watch box
Fun fact: the eye detects yellow as brighter than white. (Yellow highlighter ink seems to jump off the page, doesn't it?). As a result, a bright yellow text on a black background is the highest contrast you can get.
The truly beautiful bit of the Aquanaut is the movement and its finishing; they've duplicated the ugly part of that watch with absolutely no attempt at the interesting part.
Patek Martin. Looking good 👍
7" wrist as well...still on the fence on the Dekla you reviewed before. Seems 41mm would be the best choice for me too, although only 40mm and 42mm when it comes to Dekla.
Got me a bronze this year and glad I did but not looking for another
Damn, that Flieger looks better than the Laco one I used to own, I cant wait to see that Timex get a roasting Jody !
The thrid watch looks like the Undone Aqua Terra. maybe those are from the same factory.
I sooo want a Rootbeer San Martin!!
If they had only not had the grid on the dial. I do like a cushion though. This would look more like a Magrette otherwise (which would also explain the leather)
Pls make a review on Agelocer watches. Interesting one but none reviews
The PP aquanaut is around $100,000 to $150,000 US.
Not true...I can buy them in the 50's all day long or low 60's for the most recent version.
Have you lived in the city of Leyden? The way you say stickers, it sounds like that :)
The last one seems more Panarai that Patek to me but I'm probably off.
I had radiomir vibes too. Patek dial is not there, case is different, strap is leather….