The Most Detailed Review of the San Martin SN0111-G-A on YouTube
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2023
- Welcome to the most detailed review of the San Martin SN0111-G-A on UA-cam! In this video, we will closely examine the latest version of the SN0111 and discuss its improvements. Is it worth buying? We will find out! Get ready to see this watch inside and out, as we bring you up close and personal with our microscope. We have taken great care to showcase both the strengths and weaknesses of this timepiece, providing you with the information you need to make an informed decision before purchasing. So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this comprehensive watch review.
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Nicely balanced review Mike, thank you. Goes the extra mile in terms of looking inside at the dial and movement in a way that I haven't seen before. Also for those of us who have cracked open and serviced a couple of dozen NH35s, making it right.
I really enjoyed the review. I actually like the homage or borrowed design. I also like the blank back. The (R) brand does make some of the best designs of all time so I’m actually happy with all the borrowed designs that they make. Thanks again for the review. 👍
After almost 2 years of wearing SN017, this one will be the next for me. Your channel is very meticulous and useful for me, keep going man!
Thank you for this feedback. Glad my review has been appreciated
I would look at Steinhart. Swiss build quality and movement.
A nice review thank you Mike. The 'Spring Bar' issue is a backwards step, to use a disassembled version of a product that has successfully been developed into a robust assembly! Good to see Yoda was keeping a close eye on everything. 👍🇬🇧 and Yoda 👌
He is helping me use "the force" on some of my restorations!
I love the detail you are going into. All these details matter to me. I love the fact you've taken the watch apart to inspect how they have done it. The condition of the rotor was naughty! I have subscribed.
Thank you for your subscription. I am pleased you like my style of review.
New subscriber.
I like how you get up close and personal with the watches under review. Glad I stumbled upon your channel.
Another well video'd and informative review, thank you Mike please keep em coming 👍
Thanks, will do!
thank you for the review. the most thorough i can say!
My pleasure!
Spectacular review.
One of the highest quality reviews on UA-cam. The in depth look into the watch is just absolutely amazing. What is the best quality Sub homage around this price point in your opinion?
Wow, thanks! If I’m honest this is the first Sub I have reviewed as I’ve not been reviewing for long. My main channel is watchmaking .
I have to say though that this one is very well made for the money and it’s grown on me to the point I now wear it.
Happy subscriber, love the vintage stuff just as much. You did a good job on this one, a very popular model and maker. See you in the next one!
Thanks so much!
Nice review! That "spring bar" thing is *interesting*.
The mix of polished and burnished finishes is very well done, I especially like the highly polished chamfers and bezel scallops. I enjoy the great closeups of the uncased watch, but I don't envy your effort in having to clean up before reassembling,
I almost think this dial had static as the dust poured in! as a hobbyist watchmaker I have no problem taking them out the case and maybe in this channel or my other one I will soon start to take some of these Chinese movements apart.
@@mywatchreviewsI would watch the heck out of that. Like, over & over. I’m fascinated by these Chinese watches, but I am unsure if they’ll last. If you tear them apart and talk about that aspect, I would be glued to the screen.
Great review, I think SM did a good job with that exposed spring bar..look at the thickness of the shoulder junction / end pin , I suspect it is used in favour of a usual spring bar for added security & strength and to prevent the deaded `clicking` spring bars make especially in a vulnerable area like that piont in the strap.
This video was 👍 great! The microscope view really was worthwhile, please keep doing it. Thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice review! I bought the Titanium version of this watch a few days ago, looking forward to receiving it. The Rolex Submariner in Titanium has always been my dream watch. This is probably as close as I will ever come. It looks like a very nice watch.
That titanium one looks very interesting.
Great review.... time well spent watching. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I like the sterile back, that way i can choose what i want written, like a happy birthday for example as a gift.
Thanks for the nice review always interesting to see these SM. Is it possible in your next reviews to show how the movement is secured in the case and also to show what type of pendant tube SM are using whether it is push in glued or a nice screw in one like the Daytona trip lock tubes that one can pick up from Ali express.
Thanks
Hi Tony, any NH35/ 34 / 38 movements are always a friction fit, I have never once seen and clamps to hold them in place. For PT5000 movements I have seen movement clamps. For pendant tubes I have never given them a second thought. I would be surprised if San Martin would be using ones that are clued (never personally seen this on my watch repair channel) almost all San Martin are screw down crown so you would expect these to be a good press fit.
Good lookin piece right there! Thanks for the detailed review. New sub!
Thanks for the sub!
I have the bronze version, very nice watch.
A really great review, 👍
Glad you liked it
I see, the Force is with the Bulova now! 😄😄😄
It might need it to repair..l looking forward to filming that one on the main channel soon.
Interesting to see the dirt on the rotor. I have one SM with an NH35. It died on the first day I had it. However, I cannot fault SM's customer service. They organised and paid for it's return to China, and a new movement was put in and the watch returned. I had a custom dial design, so I am assuming they didn't just sent me and entirely new watch. It has worked with no issues for the last two years.
It is good to hear a positive story of their customer service as usually you only ever read negative mainly because the positive outcomes are not shouted out.
An issue in the movement is probably not their fault, it does not take much to stop a watch and the NH35 will not have been assembled by a human. Pleased your watch is now all good and your happy.
@@mywatchreviewsI just received my SN0111-g-a.
First impressions are positive. I can see and feel the improvements in overall finish compared to my now 2 year old San Martin. Far fewer sharp edges.
So far I have only two minor gripes:
I think a flat sapphire would have suited it better than the slightly domed crystal it has. I have a genuine Rolex Explorer 214270, and I suppose I am used to the flat crystal it has.
The female end links are pointless. They are not capable of folding down beyond the angle of the fixed outer end links or lugs. This means they extend the effective lug-to-lug length just as much as fixed male end links would. So, you get the less visually appealing (IMHO) female end links with none of the benefits that people with smaller wrists are looking for. In this aspect, I prefer the male end links on my old San Martin’s bracelet.
I like design simplicity so the blank back is just fine with me. Rolex knew where to stop and San Martin did also.
That’s a fair comment.
I've noticed Yoda making more frequent appearances both here and the myretrowatches channel 😁. For the price, it's a really solid choice. The phantom position on the NH35 would make me twitch, but I dislike cyclops so it might balance out. For someone looking for a decent water resistant tool watch, this Sab Martiner looks like decent pick.
Yoda is something quite personal and he will be in many videos. During my cancer diagnosis, treatment and now afterwards I joined a FB group on prostate cancer where I made some new friends. Amongst some of these fellow warriors was a guy called John. He was a few months ahead of me on treatment and he offered me a lot of support. We had got to know each other and I found out he was a Star Wars nut and also very good at making and painting models .
I mentioned in one conversation that as a lad I had the original Yoda back in the 80s but a mate of mine nicked it off me.
Low and behold a few weeks ago this turns up from John. It was a lovely gesture, from what we both went through and our support for one another.
It 50 it almost feels a bit silly to have Yoda but I said he would make it in the videos here and there. Still means the world to me just as a symbol of all that bad stuff and that we are both still here
@@mywatchreviews its so reassuring to know that no matter what we're going through, there are decent people who want to help.
I do like this offering however the clasp i think needs a safety catch imo, it is nice to see the bracelet ends polished... Thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐱
You don’t need a safety in these both sides have to be pushed for it to open and that’s never happened on any watch like this that I own.
I love the watch but i love the "classic" look of a dive watch. I would prefer a date wheel. As for the case back. I like it as it leaves space for engraving and exhibition backs have become tiresome to me. Bulletproof Nh35 movements are everywhere nowadays. I appreciate these reviews as they have introduced me to brands i had no knowledge of. Thank you
I love a display caseback but even as the massive Seiko fan I am I do bore of looking at a Seiko NH movement through the glass! some of the Miyota movements look nicer and on one of mine I thermally blued the screws to add more interest.
Beautiful Rolex Submariner
Спасибо большое! Шикарный обзор! Хоть уже год прошел, я решил заказать только недавно!
Thank you. I think you will like the watch!
I subscribed because you used the 🔬 . Awesome
Thank you.
A before and after cleaning picture would be nice.
You never know what you'll find if you look eh. Excellent reveiw Mike - More Please. Very good product from 'SM' as we've grown to expect. - Not much originality but that's easy to criticize, while new ideas that work are hard to find. - Just another 'dive watch' copy ..
Thanks Martin
Is lume on the hands whiter than on the indecies? I hate mismatched lume on my Cronos L6015
💥Hello, do you think that SM, installing the SW200 mechanism in its watches, also neglects the approach to the watch mechanism in an identical way?😊💥
How is this different from SN017 v3???
The Sub homage is so overdone.
Prefer under the radar homage myself. Pretty sure I had that clasp bar issue. Just replaced it and thought no more. If it has a purpose, I would like to know.
I am still a fan of the brand and love the quality feel of these watches.
I agree it’s done to death and I make mention of that. However this design sells in numbers and for San Martin it’s a numbers game and people want these designs. As much as it’s a nice watch it’s not really for me.
The clasp is fine I like the glide lock system but curious why a spring bar is not used. I can only think these pins are perhaps harder wearing? Most people would never be undoing it like me anyway.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Nice to see this thing under the microscope. Truth be told, I've seen Rolex watches at similar magnification and while they do look better and more carefully finished, none of them were "perfect", either. The difference in quality is there of course, but is it a $9,700 difference? Not sure.. :)
Two things are holding me back from getting this one: Lack of date/cyclops (I actually like those in this type of watch) and the choice of movement. I recently bought my very first San Martin (SN 0109) which has an NH34 and I'm not overly impressed with that movement. Otherwise, that watch is lovely, BTW and I do hope you'll be putting that one under the microscope as well.
Their other Sub-homage that interests me (SN 019G) does have a lot of features I'd like to have, but it's a little too big, its bracelet doesn't have enough taper and its male end-links stick out way too much for my taste.
Thanks for the detailed comment. What don't you like with the NH34? its simplicity? In one of the Tudor homage GMT they did they had a high beat Chinese GMT which I quite liked ( think its on this channel in one video with 3 watches) That movement gets some stick online but I actually quite like it. Its certainly a ETA clone base.
I am sure San Martin will be making many more sub homage, my bet is they sell really well so hopefully in time they make one that you like. This on in this review they have now made a titanium version but it has some magic going on with the steel as its steel coloured rather than that dull titanium look.
@@mywatchreviews I think that watch had the Hangzhou 6460 a clone of the ETA 2836-2. I haven't owned one but would like to try one.
@@mywatchreviews Yeah... as it happens, WD are offering the Ti-version from their "Germany Warehouse" at a pretty great price at the moment. Since I live in Germany, I'm very tempted - despite the lack of a date/cyclops :)
There are a few points I don't like about the NH34:
1. Less smooth 3Hz sweep
2. Very tricky to re-start the movement without the minute hand jumping around (could be the fault of the watch/crown)
3. GMT hand doesn't align properly and not in a consistent kind of way. According to my watch-maker after he inspected the watch, it's the fault of the movement, not of shoddy setting of the hands ("I could re-set those hands all I wanted, it would never line up properly").
4. Hand-winding feels coarse and almost ratchet-y (again: could be my example or the fault of the crown/watch).
The dial needs to be 40-50% shallower. Everything else is great.
In it to win it
Wrong video Ross, it’s the very first vid on the channel a bronze pilots watch
@@mywatchreviews Thank you. Dyslexia rules, K. O.
Perhaps I should be in it to win it!
The first video on the channel DrWho it’s the bronze pilot. You nearly made it.
@@mywatchreviews Ahhh, zut alors!
If you want to be in the prize draw its this video you need to comment on. ua-cam.com/video/SaimJf-Qm_I/v-deo.html
:)
No me sorprpende que los chinos hagan chanchullo.
Salú2 desde Puebla México.
Just wished San Martin would design something original. I'm not a fan of homages to start with. But hasn't a Rolex Submariner homage been done a million times already ?
Agreed it’s what I said in the video too. This one has been done to death but it sells…. The MD of San Martin posted on insta a while back saying that their original designs do not sell well which when they put money into making the Watch is not a good business model. So they have almost become a bit typecast as a result. I know when they do put their minds to it they can make some great designs. I own a few to prove it.
The Sub has been done to death and this one although nicely made is not my cup of tea .
There will be a video coming on 3 Tudor wannabes which you may think the same however I actually see them as a good stepping stone. Try it out and if you like it go for the original . At least with Tudor they are not out of reach and you can actually buy one from a dealer.
The beginning of the video I also show a GMT which is coming up (so I can move on to other reviews) this one I Beckie is their own design and I actually like it. Think it’s a 38 or 39mm too so perfect for sizing .
Thanks all the same for watching I need all the support I can over on this channel to get it off the ground so I can get more brands involved. They all want 8-10k subs before they will look at you.
@@mywatchreviews Sometimes a brand can rise above themselves. I used to dislike Christopher Ward watches. But the latest "12" design looks amazingly good. I hope San Martin can do the same someday.
The Steeldive homepage is better at half the price.
I will take a look, thanks Jim.
The new Rolex knock off reviewed!
dont fear there will be another brand knocking it off next week. Like I said in this video I think this is the most homaged design in a watch ever.
I would love to buy this but until they can bother to put the correct movement in it I'll not be buying it. With the prices they are now charging (+20% tax) it is not on.
This is not an enamelled dial which is powdered glass fired in 20 layers. It's just enamel paint. Totally different.On a true enamelled dial by Moser & cie you get a very fine orange peel or chalk like finish even on high horology pieces.
San Martin is way to overrated and "over priced" IMO.
I see their prices coming down on many models. To me the $200 is where they should be that. I would not say they are overrated though but I respect completely your opinion and others.
Yes I'd expect a good looking watch with a very well finished case, a sapphire crystal, ceramic bezal, quality japanese movement, quality bracelet with glide lock to cost a lot less than 200 quid. 🙄
@@markwade1376Exactly... Some people complain about everything.
*too overrated