Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt Review

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • Technical review, measurements and listening test of Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt. See if this dongle is worth its $300 price tag.
    Text review and discussion: www.audioscien...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 326

  • @MrConcord75
    @MrConcord75 3 роки тому +45

    Between their cables and Dragonfly, is why I just avoid and don't bother with Audioquest.

  • @vkvedam
    @vkvedam 3 роки тому +92

    This was definitely required Amir, given the amount of hype it's got around these parts, honestly 🙄

    • @AudioScienceReview
      @AudioScienceReview  3 роки тому +14

      Agreed. :)

    • @squidcaps4308
      @squidcaps4308 3 роки тому +7

      AudioQuest has more of these, abysmally bad devices.

    • @sonichedgehog36
      @sonichedgehog36 3 роки тому +12

      Now, just to test their $10,000+ cables... ;)

    • @Finn-McCool
      @Finn-McCool 3 роки тому +9

      Just knowing that there are consumers out here that are not only convinced that a big thick black throbbing veiny power cable will even make their wife take notice, but also that it's worth $1000s of dollars to them? And to be convinced it actually has value!? Speaks volumes that it's not going to change any time soon. Amir needs an army of crusaders to help him and to uphold his integrity in the sphere. All I have are troll powers, no knowledge, no test equipment, no integrity 😆.

    • @welderfixer
      @welderfixer 3 роки тому +1

      @@Finn-McCool AWESOME post! I damn near blew my coffee out my nose reading it! 🤣

  • @bizkac
    @bizkac 3 роки тому +45

    13 bits distortion free, would be great with mqa codec

  • @bardley6796
    @bardley6796 3 роки тому +10

    Thanks Amir, another good one.
    The fact that so many eloquent and seemingly professional reviewers put their positive words on these products just shocks me. Credibilty drops like a stone when I hear your facts..
    Shiny, nice paint and box, coupled with a good review- people will buy it!🤣

  • @dennisbohner6876
    @dennisbohner6876 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you. Cutting through the BS is a task best done by a person with expertise and the equipment.

  • @VXAce
    @VXAce 2 роки тому +4

    I really enjoy your videos, reading your reviews on the site can be quite daunting to try and understand. Your videos really help bring things to a point where I can understand the forum reviews and apply that information.

  • @DescartesRenegade
    @DescartesRenegade Рік тому +4

    I used to work at a retail store that sold audioquest. My discount on their products were exceeding 90%. Product was sold to employees at 10% markup from wholesale. If i bought something for $10 this means it was sold for $100 and purchased by the retailer for a little over $9. If audioquest marks up even only 25% this means they sold it to the retailer for a little over $7. Something that conservatively cost audioquest $7 to make is sold for $100. The audio industry is a cash grab paid for by suckers

  • @DanielLee-yj4df
    @DanielLee-yj4df 3 роки тому +44

    Thank goodness for your channel. All these misinformed, pretentiously snobby subjective reviewers can't compare to the information you are providing to us. The audiophile community is so corrupt and misguided that your analysis is a breath of fresh air. May you have continued success!

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens 2 роки тому +1

      Darko, anyone?

    • @vannk73
      @vannk73 2 роки тому

      @@Bob.martens Also Andrew Robinson, so pretentious.

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens 2 роки тому

      @@vannk73 AR is actually one of the good ones. Smug, ok. At the end of the day he's just running a business, but he has integrity, reviews 'budget' systems and genuinely dislikes snake oil.

  • @truegodofthunder
    @truegodofthunder 5 місяців тому

    I no longer buy any audio equipment until I check your site. Thank you for being a trusted buying companion.

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 3 роки тому +9

    I eny your talent and expertise. Thank you for kindly sharing. It is much appreciated.

  • @LtColDavenport
    @LtColDavenport 3 роки тому +15

    Always interesting seeing you destroying myths! As a newbie in Audio, I always thought this AQ DAC were the one to get for good portable audio, now I learned something, again! Thanks!

  • @APSuk2
    @APSuk2 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the review Amir, these kinds of reviews with real measurements & scientific analysis are invaluable.

  • @Mrch33ky
    @Mrch33ky 3 роки тому +13

    Great review! Tried the red Dragonfly a number of years ago and returned it within a week. In my mind Audioquest, like Bose, is more of a marketing company than anything else.

    • @emuclone154
      @emuclone154 3 роки тому +4

      You should add beats by the one guy.

  • @pmAdministrator
    @pmAdministrator Рік тому +1

    Thank you, prof, for your valueable time. Let's keep in mind that every single video like this one, that you make at least, changes the world to a better place -- slowly, but surely. And I hope you keep making these videos, they're very valueable. One day the awereness reaches that certain point that the whole industry has to change.

  • @bigblueocean
    @bigblueocean 3 роки тому +22

    Yea.... But cobalt paint is really expensive 😂

  • @peteleoni9665
    @peteleoni9665 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Amir!!!
    You are going to improve the industry!!!

  • @thewolfthi
    @thewolfthi 3 роки тому +12

    Sheeple followers of John Darko definitely needs to watch this!
    No hate at all to Darko but he really needs to stop recommending Audioquest equipment, especially these dacs.

    • @k1mura92
      @k1mura92 3 роки тому +12

      John Darko shuts off his comment section because he doesn't want the truth about the audio industry out there. It would jeopardize his channel, because sponsors wouldn't be sending him stuff to review if their scamming got shit on. UA-cam isn't the cult that head-fi, SBAF and other audio sites are. So he literally can't have his comment section open. I think it says everything anyone needs to know about the content of his videos - he's just spouting subjectivist delusional garbage that has no basis in reality.

    • @mikrophonie5633
      @mikrophonie5633 3 роки тому +5

      @@k1mura92 Ding ding! We have a winner!

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer Рік тому

      He's being sponsord by Audioquest , so what do you expect? :P

  • @phpn99
    @phpn99 3 роки тому +25

    A positive side effect of your work is that it helps expose 90% of audio reviewers, manufacturers and salesmen as the charlatans they are. UA-cam is filled with these - you all know their names ; they speak authoritatively of stuff they are clueless about, with the implied pretence they have some God-given ability to judge good from bad. Preposterous, and ultimately as damaging as political demagogues.

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens 2 роки тому +1

      Just a question: what do you think of Hans Beekhuyzen?

  • @michaelbeckerman7532
    @michaelbeckerman7532 Рік тому

    Wow, SO glad I never spent the money to buy one of these - and I almost did! Thanks for the great review.

  • @giriprasadkotte9876
    @giriprasadkotte9876 3 роки тому +37

    Another audiophile myth just died 🤣

    • @bluelithium9808
      @bluelithium9808 3 роки тому +1

      There's no fixing stupid, it lives on and they'll sell a ton of them.

  • @bobdylan6237
    @bobdylan6237 3 роки тому +7

    Not surprising really, Audioquest are the biggest snakeoil merchants in the business.

  • @zenboy2000
    @zenboy2000 3 роки тому +5

    About 4 years ago the Dragonfly Black and B&O H6 2nd Gen was my entry point into the audiophile hobby, I'm glad that I only paid about a quarter of the price for the Black.

    • @DJR5280
      @DJR5280 3 роки тому +2

      My entry was the same. Dragon fly V1.2 and the B&O H6. Still have both to this day. The male end of the USB port became loose a year ago and stopped working. I contacted AQ to see what it would cost to repair and they sent me a brand new one no questions asked. I still don't use though but it comes in handy sometimes.

  • @oscarmarfori613
    @oscarmarfori613 2 роки тому +1

    Almost considered buying this thing good thing I ran into your review thanks Engr. Amir 👍

  • @cornerliston
    @cornerliston 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Amir, good to see.
    One note for clarification: Music (today) isn't "mixed near zero," but it's mastered often to a maximum possible output level of -0.1 to -0.3 dB to avoid digital clipping* (mix and master being two completely different things.)
    : )
    * If digital clipping is completely avoided by -0.1 dB is a different topic though.

    • @mrcoolguy9739
      @mrcoolguy9739 3 роки тому +1

      A lot of music is also mastered beyond that to the point of clipping (straight up to 0db or above) if you can believe that. I even saw a youtube video of a mastering technique that apparently makes the master sound "better" by using less limiting and compression so it sounds punchier and just letting it clip so it may be an actual loudness war technique to purposely clip instead of using quite as much limiting and compression.

    • @cornerliston
      @cornerliston 3 роки тому +2

      @@mrcoolguy9739 Maybe when an amateur does the master but I dare say a professional would never let that happen : )
      Yes, there's plenty of techniques how to mix and master for good/better/different results. But digital clipping is rarely something that sounds nice.
      What intentional clipping may do is give a perceived loudness. But clipping the master signal output is rarely a good idea. Mixing engineers use a bunch of better techniques for that.
      What could be argued though is if say 0.1 or 0.5 dB of clipping is really audible. Probably depending on the character of the song.

    • @formdissolve
      @formdissolve Рік тому +1

      He said "near zero" so to me -0.1 to -0.3 fits that description. Back in the 00s they definitely did mix as high as 0 or over! One of the worst offenders was the RHCP album Californication which had massive digital clipping. My brother worked at Best Buy at the time and there were people that returned the CD thinking something was wrong with it. Another famous example is Metallica's Death Magnetic from 2008 which was so bad that fans complained and started a petition to have it remastered.

  • @Jon-nz3dm
    @Jon-nz3dm 2 роки тому +17

    I've learned a lot since getting back into the hobby over the last few months. One of the most interesting things I've learned is that Audioquest is pushed by huge youtube channels and companies but their products seem to be either incompetent or even complete snake oil scams. You've got folks like Darko using their $5000 speaker wire with the stupid battery attached to the cable...he pushes all of their snake oil and talks about people that don't believe it like they're illiterate peasants. Audio snobbery will always be here I guess

    • @CeeStyleDj
      @CeeStyleDj 2 роки тому +2

      It's a shame.

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens 2 роки тому +1

      Darko is pathetic.

    • @kkjrees
      @kkjrees 2 роки тому +2

      Your right about darko, I questioned his motives for reviewing an ikea speaker and boy did he give me both barrels, expletives and the rest, when he uses a 3rd party to go through comments

    • @sainaveenbali
      @sainaveenbali 2 роки тому +1

      I hate Darko half hour videos anyways, half of them are pictures clicks , I be like just come to point and tell about product. I have already unsubscribed him

    • @dropthehammer1360
      @dropthehammer1360 Рік тому

      @@sainaveenbali not his loss.

  • @skip1835
    @skip1835 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this candid & excellent review Amir, I especially appreciated the description of your "listening" experience - I do use the Cobolt to stream internet radio into my main system for casual listening - from a laptop into a pre-amp - I'm guessing from your review that in those circumstances the Colbolt isn't being "asked" to "drive" any serious load - - I do think that the sound is pretty good given that I'm listening to "radio" - I've never used the Colbolt for headphones, only as an easy to implement DAC - - Based on your prior review, I did buy the Hidizs but to use it in a Windows 7 computer requires drivers which I haven't got around to messing with - the windows 7 laptop is only being utilized for the purpose I mentioned above so it's like having a "tuner" that would otherwise be collecting dust and or ultimately headed for the recycle bin. But anyway, your review has more than wet my appetite to "pit" the Hidizs against the Colbolt in a listening session - although I'm running a reference system - I bet, again based on your excellent review, that I doubt that I'll hear a big difference - in that you mentioned that the distortion present in the Colbolt is below what we can normally detect if it's not "pushed" by current/impedance demands and that it's otherwise fine - we shall see ! ( :

  • @Starstreak170
    @Starstreak170 3 роки тому +21

    Thanks for the review. Audioquest are such a scummy company.

    • @davidlong1786
      @davidlong1786 3 роки тому +2

      The fact that one of Stereophile's former "reviewers" left Stereophile to work for Audioquest should tell you enough. He was always an idiot as a reviewer and liked to hype the companies that made questionable over priced crap-ola.

  • @kombosto88
    @kombosto88 3 роки тому +14

    I freaking love your videos, I even read comments 😁 🍿

  • @richardmelville5973
    @richardmelville5973 3 роки тому +26

    Audio Quest seems to be all about snake oil.

    • @richardmelville5973
      @richardmelville5973 3 роки тому +2

      @Douglas Blake I do own a single AQ product -- a record clamp that I bought in 1980. It's actually OK.

  • @StringerNews1
    @StringerNews1 3 роки тому +21

    I see a lot of snakes without moisturized skin.

  • @davidkosa
    @davidkosa 3 роки тому +14

    This would obviously measure better if you used it with the PS Audio Noise Harvester.

  • @mvv1408
    @mvv1408 3 роки тому +14

    Well, you'll have to pay for the MQA option, so your otherwise perfectly fine 16/44.1 PCM can be "enhanced" and you finally can hear your music "as the artist intended it". Those technicians at Philips sure didn't know what they were doing, fortunately there is Bob Stuart to outsmart them all and add more "value" to our DACS. Because when it's more expensive, it sounds better.

    • @bernardopkmDP178
      @bernardopkmDP178 3 роки тому +1

      The equation is simple, more snake oil = higher price 😂

    • @user-hb1ve6mc6f
      @user-hb1ve6mc6f 3 роки тому +1

      Chord Dave + Chord M-Scaler

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens 2 роки тому

      @@user-hb1ve6mc6f Anything less than a 10k DAC is an insult to your ears! Everybody knows that, right?

    • @user-hb1ve6mc6f
      @user-hb1ve6mc6f 2 роки тому

      @@Bob.martens DCS BARTOK

  • @user-hb1ve6mc6f
    @user-hb1ve6mc6f 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for an honest review of the Cobalt! Please review Chord Dave and Chord M-Scaler, if possible. Have a nice day 😊

  • @edwardbalboa5528
    @edwardbalboa5528 2 роки тому +2

    Do you see Sony or Pioneer selling expensive cables ?
    No - they don't want to ruin their reputation by ripping people off . ... Companies like Audioquest specialise IN ripping people off ......

    • @CeeStyleDj
      @CeeStyleDj 2 роки тому

      You CAN get better quality cables (to a point). Sony and Pioneer just aren't in that business. With that being said, I feel the only thing special about audioquest cables are the way they look. I wouldn't purchase one though.

  • @robholt7486
    @robholt7486 3 роки тому +3

    Another great expose. I have the $90 Black version and it's fine in reality, i.e. better than the phone or laptop output but it's disappointing to see AQ bettered by far cheaper devices.
    Time for a revamp of the design, as you say move to USB C, improve the headphone amp and address the clipping issue.

  • @ForbesPhoto
    @ForbesPhoto 3 роки тому +11

    But John Darko called his review "Excellence EVERYWHERE w/ AudioQuest's DragonFly Cobalt" and Audiophiliac Gutenburg "wowza"! How could this be? (now, where is that sarcasm emoji?)

    • @sakusaaristo191
      @sakusaaristo191 3 роки тому +1

      Who says we don't have super heroes amongst us, as these two (and many other audiophiles) bend reality with power of their minds :D

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer Рік тому

      He would do when he's getting paid to say that. lol

  • @mcsenny4793
    @mcsenny4793 3 роки тому +4

    Could you perhaps review the FiiO BTR5? It seems like it's very popular so some good insight would be much appreciated by many.

    • @basileus9343
      @basileus9343 3 роки тому

      The Qudelix 5K uses the same dac/amp chips therefore you can get an idea by watching that review

    • @gullibleskeptic3237
      @gullibleskeptic3237 3 роки тому

      @@basileus9343 the qudelix sounds quite different though. I prefer its sound over the btr5.

  • @kingdavid7571
    @kingdavid7571 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks, Amir. I hope you can review some four or five thousand dollar power cables some time. When a person reads magazine ads for these things, it starts to convince a person.

  • @danielgeiger7739
    @danielgeiger7739 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the review. Listened to it over Ether 2 headphones run through a DF cobalt (!), at least at low levels. Now I am lookin for a replacement ... Thanks for doing all those reviews and sensible tests.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 3 роки тому +1

      AQ is the biggest seller of snake oil out there. Almost all his wire is OFC that he marks up like it was OHNO.

    • @danielgeiger7739
      @danielgeiger7739 3 роки тому

      @@amazoidal Duly noted! Guilt as charge for falling for marketing hype. Looking at the Hidiz S9 or that E1DA 9038D. Anything else to consider for Mac laptop dongle?

  • @Finn-McCool
    @Finn-McCool 3 роки тому +4

    Imagine how many reviews they buy, how many products they comp and how much marketing they do and it's astounding that it's not a $400 dough-hackey.
    Just having Paul at PS AUDIO mention them may have cost them $1000s but as we know, his subliminal selling techniques are Dalai Lama level 7th chakras bonus
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  • @kyron42
    @kyron42 3 роки тому +10

    John Darko loved the cobalt

    • @phototristan
      @phototristan 3 роки тому +25

      Because they're a sponsor of his site!

    • @chefsteve8381
      @chefsteve8381 3 роки тому

      So ! Don't make it good !

    • @kyron42
      @kyron42 3 роки тому

      Maybe John is smoking too many funny cigarettes when he listens to music and that is interfering his perception.

    • @geoff37s38
      @geoff37s38 3 роки тому +6

      I do not take much notice of Darko’s opinions. I listen to his flowery analogies and am left knowing less than I did before watching his review.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 3 роки тому

      It's for mobile freaks that are hard up for a portable DAC.

  • @ujean56
    @ujean56 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks Amir. I came very close to buying one of these but watching your videos I opted for the Hidizs S9. Keep up the great work!

    • @morespinach9832
      @morespinach9832 3 роки тому

      Does that help? I feel neither really helps.

  • @martijnbos9873
    @martijnbos9873 3 роки тому +3

    This is very surprising to me. I owned a dragonfly red until recently and I absolutely loved it. It sounded WAY better than my laptop 3,5mm jack or Apple’s lightning to 3,5mm converter. I have only compared it with the dragonfly black and cobalt as far as dongles go though. When comparing it to a proper exterbal soundcard (ifi micro dac) it of course sounded worse, but not by that much. I have used it with several headphones, of which a Hifiman Sundara, which is relatively hard to drive, and also Audeze LCD - X. Both sounded great and I never heard any distortion, even at high levels. I would describe it with all the buzzwords people around here hate so much: “‘musical”, “wide” etc hehe

    • @martijnbos9873
      @martijnbos9873 2 роки тому +1

      @@bunkerbusterexplore Agreed. Sound is so personal. However there is some merrit to meassurements as well I think, but it should be seen in context. For example, say that a set of IEM's has a high beep at 17khz, but it is very soft. Meassurements might help you detect this flaw prior to buying, instead of noticing it one week after purchase. However, my hearing reaches about 15khz, so for me it doesn't matter.

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 2 роки тому +2

      you are missing the point, you can have the same experience with dongles that cost 3 times less, smh

    • @martijnbos9873
      @martijnbos9873 2 роки тому +2

      @@Lauren080508you can shake your head all day long, but as long as we can't measure things like soundstage and imaging claims like the one you just made are not accurate in the slightest

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 2 роки тому

      @@bunkerbusterexplore haha nice language, i will not lower myself and resort to insults, i do have several dongles including an audioquest, my top guy is te the hidzz S9 pro, clean transparent little marvel, but if i want to drive my H800s or my Dean Clark RT which are more power hungry I use my Xduoo Link2 Bal. Try to drive those cans with your overpriced audioquest dongles, and you'll see, lol

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 2 роки тому

      @@martijnbos9873 the fact that soundstage/imaging is always poor in IEMs regardless the equipment and great in cans like the HD800s makes most people who knows about the matter it is related with resonances in the headphones cups. The HD 800s has huge cups, I have also the AKG 371, great sound but absolutely no soundstage, the AKG 371 has very small cups.

  • @felipeavalos3404
    @felipeavalos3404 3 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU, I was hoping to buy the red version for my son, I will start to look for a better one

  • @chefsteve8381
    @chefsteve8381 3 роки тому +24

    Zeos reviewed this yesterday you just destroyed his credibility with this review lol

    • @fieldcar
      @fieldcar 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah. That was a painful watch after reading amir's article first. It was a final nail in the coffin for me trusting his reviews. The previous was the hype over the goldplanar gl2000. They have a substantial 1KHz peak.

    • @thobiasmartin4768
      @thobiasmartin4768 3 роки тому +13

      He said it sounded good and sometimes distortion sounds good
      He tried with different headphones / IEM and said it won't run some
      He also said it wasn't worth 300$
      Soooo wouldn't say his credibility is gone Just that Z likes some strange stuff
      And by the way he ended the review by saying he doesn't recommend buying it soooo did you even listen to both of the reviews ? Because they both agree just different point of views and techniques of jugement
      People like tubes because they distort sound
      That thing is the same just badly designed solid state
      I personally wouldn't buy this thing even if it was 20$ because I won't give a dime to people that say their cables improve sound and charge 14 000$ for 3 meters of XLR cables

    • @chefsteve8381
      @chefsteve8381 3 роки тому +3

      @@thobiasmartin4768 yes he said he would pay $200 for it ,lol .don't get caught up in his world class shilling. and distortion is only good in 2nd and 3rd harmonics on tube amps not solid state amps, but i do agree about the cable BS.

    • @apexracing741
      @apexracing741 3 роки тому +3

      @@thobiasmartin4768 Tube distortion is like vinyl distortion, it can be pleasing to the ears. Digital distortion is not.

    • @thobiasmartin4768
      @thobiasmartin4768 3 роки тому +3

      @@apexracing741 Distortion is nice when you enjoy it
      It's about personal preference
      I like some old mp3 player's sound if you measured them they would show garbage numbers But I find their sound warm and nice
      All about personal preference
      If knowing that some DAC / amp is throwing good numbers at you is making your ears happy then go with it
      Personally I go by what pleases my ear without knowing anything about it and I'm happy like that

  • @Fatih-xl7yn
    @Fatih-xl7yn 2 роки тому

    I bought the ddHifi TC44b because of your review and its so well made and no issues with it. I cant tell ay difference compared to the apple dongle. But I like the design and prefer to use 4.4mm. Plus, its very good shielded, no interferences here in Germany, because of the GSM network (buzzing noise,I don't know how its called). That's a huge issue with other devices. I upgrades to the TC44C, because of 3.5mm instead of 2.5mm and the removable cable. Should be here in couple of days. Thank your for your great work with your reviews and educational videos!

  • @HiFiGOAudio
    @HiFiGOAudio 3 роки тому +1

    True there are better options at way less price segment. Thanks for your honest opinion.

  • @audioreviews
    @audioreviews 3 роки тому +5

    I have a box full of dongles and the Cobalt is the most natural sounding of them. Not sure how one can measure "timbre" or the delight of a Mozart oboe concerto, or sonic perception after long-term use. The Cobalt's money is in the dac (implementation) part, not the amp. People who spend $$$$ on desktop dacs (I don't) know what I mean.
    Currently testing the $85 Shanling UA2 that features the same chip as the Cobalt and an additional balanced output. But it does not sound as good as the Cobalt (elevated, bumpier bass and attenuated midrange)...though it offers a better value. If you have a chance testing it, I am sure you will come up with a favourable review.
    One thing for sure, Amir. While you are a nice and reasonable person (we talked before), your reviews create lots of anger in your following. People who think something that measures better sounds better should just be happy with their finding but not go after others.
    Cicero said "suum cuique"....which is still valid today. No reason to attack others over gear.

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 3 роки тому

      "Not sure how one can measure "timbre" or the delight of a Mozart oboe concerto" how?? easy my friend; just do a proper blind test on your many dongles, and be prepare for a surprise....

    • @audioreviews
      @audioreviews 3 роки тому

      @@Lauren080508 Sure...

    • @eetu2532
      @eetu2532 3 роки тому +1

      No, you're right, everyone should like what they like. But if you have visited AudioQuest's site, they make some extraordinary claims on Cobalt's 'precedent-setting performance' that simply are not true. Certain dongles costing 1/10th have better objective performance. And while there isn't a single 'timbre' measurement, I don't see how a device that has high intermodulation distortion (multitone test) could have more accurate timbre.

    • @soreja1445
      @soreja1445 3 роки тому

      Reminding people something is a scam is a virtue.

    • @sakusaaristo191
      @sakusaaristo191 3 роки тому

      @@audioreviews Just google "music timbre" (or even better use google scholar) and you will learn a lot in a few moments of reading. Timbre is easily measurable.

  • @hello-gl6hc
    @hello-gl6hc 3 роки тому +3

    Hi Amir, thank you for doing these videos I have been enjoying them a ton, and I have especially been enjoying the educational videos. Would it be possible to do a video on what makes a good 'studio' or 'professional' headphone vs. what makes a good 'enjoyment' headphone (if such a distinction exists) in the future? Hope you have a good day :)

  • @LondonWater
    @LondonWater 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir. I was just about to pull the trigger on this, and got lucky enough to find your video. So according to your chart, should I just buy the Hidiz s8? I’m going to watch your video on that, and probably buy one, since it’s like 1/3 the price😂👍

  • @sunninho
    @sunninho 3 роки тому +2

    I'm curious about the new THX Onyx dongle DAC, would like to see an analysis/review of that

    • @AudioScienceReview
      @AudioScienceReview  3 роки тому +10

      I have done that already: www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/thx-onyx-review-headphone-adapter.22223/

  • @ubtrippin9980
    @ubtrippin9980 2 роки тому +1

    Audioquest strikes again!

  • @melgibbson8955
    @melgibbson8955 10 місяців тому

    thanx for the info. do u have reviews on portable dacs that are worthy for samsung phones and focal headphones? I,m allergic to bs and distortion and I,m glad this review on cobalt which I almost liked. I,m streaming qobuz 24 bit

  • @JesusMartinez-mk6fc
    @JesusMartinez-mk6fc 3 роки тому +1

    Great detailed video review Amir, thanks! Another Qon from AQ. After some commenters mentioned a review on the Cobalt from another UA-camr (Zeos) that was unknown to me, I went on to watch that review. Ok the guy is funny but clearly a hack; a great example of all it takes these days to call oneself an audio reviewer. First and last review I'll watch from that channel.

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 2 роки тому

      come on, not fair, zeos is the man!, but he is an entertainer, just disregard his conclusions, watch the new stuff while having a good laugh, worth it in my book. i learn my lesson though, I would not buy any new stuff until reviewed by ASR.

  • @CheezeCracker
    @CheezeCracker 3 роки тому

    Amir, regards to your test on square wave and internal DAC clipping, I'm suspect that the Radsone EarStudio ES100 does this horribly. Any chance, if you find a moment of boredom, that you could run this quick test on the ES100, if you still have it kicking around?

  • @juliangst
    @juliangst 3 роки тому +4

    I had the dragonfly black a few years ago and was really happy with it and sometimes even preferred it over my desktop dac amp. This shows again that measurements aren’t everything.

    • @davidlong1786
      @davidlong1786 3 роки тому +4

      No but sighted bias sure is.

    • @syke76
      @syke76 3 роки тому +2

      You want to make sure you are not confusing sound signature with performance. I have the dragonfly red, and on some iems, it sounded rather nice. But that's because of the warmer signature that help compensate the detailed nature of some my iems. If I were to compare to something that measures well on Amir's list, I do hear more details and separation but very likely it would be to the point of being a little too jarring and thin sounding for my liking. Point is, on certain setups the dragonfly would work well to your preference due to its sound signature but that does not mean it performs well across the board. They are two separate things.

    • @juliangst
      @juliangst 3 роки тому +2

      @@davidlong1786 if I had any bias it wouldn’t be towards the dragonfly but my other amp, but the dragonfly ended up sounding better. It’s probably because of the sound signature and not the distortion or technicalities of the unit

    • @xulonn
      @xulonn 3 роки тому

      @@juliangst Please be aware that there is only one "accurate sound" and that a "Sound Signature" (if it truly exists) is actually a distortion of the "accurate" sound. It is o.k. to prefer some forms of distortion - but don't refer to such a sound signature as "accurate".

    • @audioreviews
      @audioreviews 3 роки тому +1

      Most people who talk about snake oil here are blind followers...likely none of them has tried the Cobalt.

  • @Mal-xz4zu
    @Mal-xz4zu Рік тому

    My HD 650 sounds too quiet, playing Spotify Premium, directly out of my computer (ASUS chromebox), but my Graham Slee Novo headphone amplifer provides adequate volume, and it sounds good to me. Would a DAC improve the sound still further or this is a "reasonable" place to stop upgrading?

  • @MrKallemyran
    @MrKallemyran 3 роки тому +6

    "I just see no reason for this to exist what so ever" 🤭

  • @Justin-fy7xk
    @Justin-fy7xk 2 роки тому

    I tried this cobalt and i noticed that the bass was way over the top and the sound was not balanced. I much prefered the sound coming from the basic pc output.

  • @kevchavez
    @kevchavez 3 роки тому

    Is Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt compatible with Grado Labs SR80e? Just making sure before I make a purchase because other people complain about hearing lots of hiss, pops and clicks.

  • @pokerbarloahavia
    @pokerbarloahavia 3 роки тому +3

    great review brother can't wait till you review the CSS Audio DIY kits. A lot of people say it's the best speaker in the market.

    • @user-hb1ve6mc6f
      @user-hb1ve6mc6f 3 роки тому

      Martin Logan Neolith Speakers, Focal or Totem are the best speakers in the world

  • @billymisfits
    @billymisfits 2 роки тому

    i gotta ask did you measure this dac while connected to a Windows machine? With Windows there is indeed significant noise caused by digital amplification. When I connect Cobalt to an Apple device like an iPad or MacBook it's dead quiet and sounds pretty good. The problem is with Windows. Dragonfly needs a driver for Windows to resolve this issue.

    • @CeeStyleDj
      @CeeStyleDj 2 роки тому

      He used his Audio Precision unit. Nothing to do with Windows. What you see is just software graphs used in Windows.

  • @doctorzingo
    @doctorzingo 3 роки тому

    Just a small detail: at around 13 minutes, you seem to have highlighted the Dragonfly Red instead of the Cobalt. (It's the same measurement value so it doesn't matter.)

  • @petermartin9494
    @petermartin9494 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks very much, very useful. Especially since it exposes some audio "reviewers" as completely useless idiots. No need to mention their names, they know who they are.

  • @jtavegia5845
    @jtavegia5845 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for exposing the truth.

  • @MemeScreen
    @MemeScreen 3 роки тому

    Will you be reviewing the PS Audio PowerPort Classic? I don't know if something like this is snake oil or not. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

  • @AriaKobu
    @AriaKobu 3 роки тому +16

    When you see Audioquest products, there's a high chance it's iffy 🤣

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 3 роки тому +1

      Bill Low takes a piece of undetermined OFC copper and calls it "Evergreen" or something and marks it up 6000%. You can buy genuine OHNO (PC-OCC) copper for less.

  • @MegaEpstein
    @MegaEpstein 2 роки тому

    One year as I'm using hidisz s9 pro, and very happy how it sounds

  • @dentboxhero1717
    @dentboxhero1717 3 роки тому +1

    To still have those thing priced so high it's laughable. Things have caught on and moved past Audioquest and for a fraction of the price.

  • @TerraVN
    @TerraVN 3 роки тому +1

    What a scam company with a bunch of bs marketing things. I so regret since i bought the Black and Red from them, immidiately sold it after i found out some cheaper products but have better quality

  • @Old_Sailor85
    @Old_Sailor85 3 роки тому +7

    Almost as good as their cables...

  • @user-eb5ri3nf9d
    @user-eb5ri3nf9d 3 роки тому

    How does the dragonfly cobalt match with the shure se 846?

  • @williamsmith1892
    @williamsmith1892 3 роки тому

    I have the original Dragonfly, the Black 1.5, and the Red. I no longer use them, but I thought the Red sounded good, going from a laptop to the preamp through a splitter and RCA cables. In direct comparison, my Marantz SA-8001 CD player was better sounding than the Red. My newest DAC will arrive later this month, the Schiit Modius. I chose the Modius over the Cobalt due to reviews and lower price. Thanks for your insightful review.

  • @axr2431
    @axr2431 3 роки тому

    I drive my Stellia (35 Ohm) with these using my phone. Havent noticed any clipping (I dont blast it). Is it because of Stellias high sensitivity? Lacking ability to test, I too bought a Cobalt couple of months ago per all the hype and online reviews. Thanks for your reviews.

  • @davidcrawford2498
    @davidcrawford2498 2 роки тому

    What DAC for AV system do you think is the best from your tests?

  • @CeeStyleDj
    @CeeStyleDj 2 роки тому +1

    These products were the only saving grace for audioquest for me. Thank goodness I never bought one. Thank you for this review. It sounds like almost the entire company is snake oil. What a shame... Sigh.. employees probably believe their own BS too. Sad.

  • @kurb1980
    @kurb1980 3 роки тому +2

    AQ is complete marketing and brand with zero science. Who eff’s up a Sabre Dac chip those chips are used in high end applications by companies like Benchmark who get state of the art performance. There’s a video on YT at Rocket Mountain Show that has one of AQ stooges just blah blah about computer audiophile and they had all the answers and all the products you need! Haha 😂

  • @hartgemini007
    @hartgemini007 2 роки тому

    Hi Amir- on your recommendation I decided to buy both the HIDIZS S9Pro & Ifi Go Blue from Amazon to compare to my current Audioquest Cobalt which according to you is complete rubbish. I currently use the Cobalt with Sennheiser IE800 IEM’s along with Snug custom made ear mouldings which sounds far superior to the inferior IPhone DAC. Connected the HIDIZS first hoping I would be amazed at the difference you mentioned instead couldn’t stop laughing at how poor it was both in detail and lack of power especially in terms of the bass which was dreadful. Then connected the Go Blue which was very close to the Cobalt but certainly not any better but leagues ahead of the Hidizs.
    Thankfully because I bought both on Amazon I returned both.
    I also own what you would call a crazy high end MSB system with expensive cable etc which you say makes zero difference despite what literally millions of people around the World clearly disagree with , so we are all wrong and can’t hear differences I find laughable personally.
    Personally when buying any audio product I test it over long periods before I decide to buy them as like most people wasting money on something that is clearly no better makes zero sense.
    On Amazon there are over 1000 positive reviews for the Cobalt & a 37 for the Hidizs S9 Pro?
    Having worked in the Hi Fi industry over 20 years ago I’m fully aware that reviews are cooked all the time however there are certain reviewers that offer great advice also with no monetary gain to be had therefore more believable . I do agree with your review on the Audioquest speaker cables with the DBS battery gimmick -complete nonsense so I use Jorma which are far superior product

  • @homerjones3291
    @homerjones3291 2 роки тому +1

    I’m disappointed; I thought this was the one piece of equipment that was exceptional and worth the money from AQ.

  • @JJSideshowBob
    @JJSideshowBob 3 роки тому

    Many audiophiles seem to insist that they are listening differently / paying attention to different characteristics, discrediting sincere reviews as obsessed with data or abstract or theoretical. Aka "I don't care what you measure, I trust my ears".
    But these things are really inseperable, are they not? If it can be heard, it can be measured... Why would you feel the need to choose between one and the other? I don't understand it.

  • @joemato
    @joemato 3 роки тому

    Audioquest knows that there are lots of gullible "audiophiles" around and they are earning on that. I don't exempt myself but with Amir I'm getting better and better at spotting hype (or snake oil as you may like it) from real performance and thus saving me a lot of money. Thanks Amir!

  • @kyron42
    @kyron42 3 роки тому +2

    Have you tested LG quad-dac phones?

    • @l_jin
      @l_jin 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, LG quad-dac was reviewed. It's an okay dac and the best among smartphones. You can check on their website.

    • @AudioScienceReview
      @AudioScienceReview  3 роки тому +8

      Yes, it is a very good DAC: www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-audio-measurement-of-lg-g7-thinq-smartphone.4468/
      Difficult to use though since it senses the headphone impedance and decides on its own to limit power. There are hacks to get around this.

    • @kyron42
      @kyron42 3 роки тому

      @@AudioScienceReview thank you very much. It's a pretty LG stopped making phones.

  • @user-il2gy2rq5x
    @user-il2gy2rq5x 3 роки тому

    any good altrenative dacs like dragonfly?

  • @mikaeljohansson2254
    @mikaeljohansson2254 3 роки тому +2

    I wish I had known this channel a year ago. 😂 I got my unit as a gift, but I never understood the hype with it. At least, my unit can still function good as a scratching back tool 😊

  • @Lauren080508
    @Lauren080508 3 роки тому +1

    It was expected, after all is audioquest, still a shame, anyway many are crossing fingers for the Fiio BTR5 to be reviewed by Amir, so popular out there after rave reviews from most all youtubers.

  • @andreasmoller9798
    @andreasmoller9798 3 роки тому +2

    I have the dragonfly red witch sound very good to my ears, as dac to my main system

    • @audioreviews
      @audioreviews 3 роки тому +2

      Cobalt ist natürlicher und runder im Klang als die Red, besonders am oberen Ende. Ich hab eine Kiste voller Dongles und die Cobalt klingt bei weitem am besten. Was der hier erzählt ist Käse.
      Die Rote klingt auch sehr linear, ohne Bumps...etwas energischer halt. Auch gut.
      Wenn die Leute sich hier einreden, AQ sei Snake Oil, dann ist das auch inkonsequent wenn man bedenkt, dass die diese Dongles erfunden haben.

    • @DJR5280
      @DJR5280 3 роки тому

      Be careful here. If it doesn't measure well on a graph it's junk.

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 3 роки тому +1

      @@DJR5280 its actully not junk at all, as long as your happy and enjoy what you buy it will be fine, i don’t always listen to what people have to say, as they have their own preference, and sound is very subjective that is most true about speakers

    • @audioreviews
      @audioreviews 3 роки тому +3

      @@DJR5280 ...just like any tube amp. Check out the measurements by John Atkinson for Stereophile...same result, different interpretation.
      The DragonFly Red has a very small battery drain...but using a 23 ohm/93 dB sensitivity headphone as done by ASR requires a lot of current...and if it does not get it, it clips.
      I have tested quite a few dongles (mainly with iems) and some of the ones that measure well sound metallic.
      It is a general problem of theoretical physics that electromagnetic waves cannot be 1:1 translated to acoustic waves.
      Listening is essential for...ermm...determining audio quality.
      I do have all 3 DragonFlys and the two Earmen and a bunch of others. Red is very good, sonically.

    • @audioreviews
      @audioreviews 3 роки тому +2

      Red is absolutely untouched in its price class.

  • @kampulas
    @kampulas Рік тому

    I'm one of the suckers who bought this. Has Audioquest responded to any of these types of reviews?

    • @Haydos
      @Haydos Рік тому

      No. They will never respond. This review has been out for so long. Also they will just say that the magic can't be measured. "Use your ears"

  • @mw4609
    @mw4609 3 роки тому

    Amir, thank you for telling it like it is.

  • @jumpstat
    @jumpstat 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the indepth review. Another subpar product from AudioQ. Their products are very expensive in my country and many dealers sells them unfortunately.

  • @edwardbalboa5528
    @edwardbalboa5528 2 роки тому +1

    UNFAIR ! Audioquest spent all their resources designing their amazing life changing cables ..... Look at the companies bank account , definitely life changing

    • @Lauren080508
      @Lauren080508 2 роки тому +1

      audioquest cables certainly have the highest dynamic range, talking about bank accounts, lol

  • @TheAppleExperience
    @TheAppleExperience 2 роки тому

    In audio every thing is about matching ( synergy) the right components to get good sound. I don,t use a spectrum analyzer to evaluate a product as a customer i use my ears instead.

  • @dikomig6856
    @dikomig6856 2 роки тому

    Hiya. Would you do a review of ifi go blu?

  • @squidcaps4308
    @squidcaps4308 3 роки тому +2

    I know why it has so much distortion: remember PS1, the first edition? And how people loved its sound, claiming it is Hi End? That device had he same 13-14bit equivalency, with loads of distortion as the audio circuit were cost cut to a point where they barely worked at all. It was DIFFERENT. And distortion can create different sound, without raising the noise floor.

  • @puresound1856
    @puresound1856 3 роки тому

    Nice job again! Keep up the good work!

  • @marcosr2
    @marcosr2 3 роки тому

    Great review, Amir.
    Nice to see that you are on youtube with these great videos

  • @Thevikingcam
    @Thevikingcam 3 роки тому +4

    Newer like Dragonflys. pointless. My LG V30 phone is FAR superior to any of those clowns..

  • @FalleNoah
    @FalleNoah 3 роки тому

    Would like to see review of a recently hyped dongle CX-Pro CX31993.

  • @za1231in
    @za1231in 3 роки тому +2

    love it

  • @allancopeland6342
    @allancopeland6342 3 роки тому

    Can you recomend a good dac. Im a newbie to this area. Would use this for phone and computer. Thanks

    • @chefsteve8381
      @chefsteve8381 3 роки тому

      Hidizs S9

    • @lumntoob999
      @lumntoob999 3 роки тому

      Hidizs s8 or s9

    • @cel4145
      @cel4145 3 роки тому

      Tempotec Sonata HD Pro dongle. Read Amir's review www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/tempotec-sonata-hd-pro-review-headphone-adapter.22625/

  • @tomsavage6886
    @tomsavage6886 3 роки тому

    Great video, review and explanation