Thank you. Fabulous video. But we are biased as the one with the copper sink is ours. John, Katie and their team at Dirty Weekender have been fabulous to work with. We met them at the show in 2022 and were hooked on the idea of creating a bespoke van. They have listened to our ideas and made brilliant suggestions along the way. We trust them completely. It is our first ever van and we have even been abroad for the duration of the build doing design tweaks by message or phone call. Your video was the first time we saw the completed van which we have now picked up and tested on a very successful weekend. It’s clear from the comments that van choice and style are very personal. We wouldn’t dream of having a coach built van or anything bigger than the one we’ve got; but I understand why some might. Each to their own I guess. In the meantime, we are very happy with ours.
Wow, that’s amazing. I truly love the van. I was only at the show for 2 days, but I went to see it 4 times 😁 It was Katie I spoke to who told me the story. I was not only impressed with the van, but the company also. Very passionate and knowledgeable. I’m sure you will have some amazing adventures in it. You have made some great choices 👍🏼
@@StaycationLifestyle Thank you. We have a few more short trips planned to get used to it and then we will start doing what it was designed for - long trips in Europe.
My van has Bodans interior with a 129cm Rib bed, microwave and 60l fridge, webastos stationary heating, and a BLUETTI ac200max…the quality is just superb!
@@StaycationLifestyle We are converting our existing T6 rather than T6.1 so we ripped out our conversion to redo it all at Knights. We've gone for a mixture of the Prestige tourer and Tourer Plus I think, but they are also facelifting the front end with LVR 6.1 front bumper.
Very nice. I’m sure it will be amazing. I forgot the mention in the video the Vanshades chair pod. That’s a great storage idea for chairs on a tailgate
@@StaycationLifestyle I hope so :D very excited to be honest haha. Unfortunately we've got a barndoors rear end and like our big cosy camping chairs, but we have got van shades, and their new sliding store storage pod. Just followed you on instagram, incase you wanted to see the conversion once we get the van back :)
Love all these vans . The ecowagon is class although some of the styling I personally wouldn't do. I have the California Coast and you know what, after watching your video I absolutely love it. It's unique in its own way 🚔⛷️🏄🏼♂️🎸
I think the pricetags on these vehicles are bonkers! I like that my small panel van is so simple and replaceble. It means I can go everywhere and not be afraid to get it dirty or damage a plastic spoiler.
@@lovevans911 It was the most expensive Transporter. There were other Campervans Crafter size which I will show next time of which some cost more. Like a Merc Sprinter for £195k
I like the last Borland’s one with the off road tires because I think it would work best for me. That is not to say I don’t think the other vans are not impressive, I just can’t see myself using them. Really enjoyed the video though thanks for showing me around.
I like the way the seat faces out towards the side door in the last van I didn’t realise you could do that in a transporter I think I have only seen it in crafters. I’d like to see how the pull out bed works.
You show the RIB bed. I have one in my T6.1. However I find that due to the wheel arch height it is 7cm higher than normal so feet cannot be placed on the floor. The headrests don't lift high enough for an adult to use safely. Have you looked at this? I spoke to the chap from Cambridge Campers who told me they hammered down the arch as much as possible and there is no more they can do about it. BTW, I am really enjoying your videos, keep it up.
Crazy money isn’t it. A lot has gone into it and they do have a market for them. You have to have a certain type of wealth to afford a luxury purchase as that. It’s certainly out of reach for most of us
It seems to be common at the moment for people to be moving to the bigger vehicles. More converters are building on these platforms too, the Man, Crafter, Sprinter along with the tried and tested Fiats. More luxury and comfort
I have seen the fiats in passing and always think how good they look and the size looks great but when I get my own camper I still think I’d go for a vw, I just find them super cool.
They all have fridges. The last one has a massive one, due to them using the van on long trips away in the middle of nowhere. It was purpose built 👍🏼 Still, they are big money. With these these you can do the maths with the spec included and you can see where the price comes from
One can stay in luxury hotels for years and that will come out cheaper than these type of expensive camper vans which does not even have proper toilet or shower
@@mowuvz3672 it would. But a campervan/motorhome/caravan is a lifestyle. A life choice people make. It’s not a “cheap” way of holidaying, that could be done in a tent. It’s certainly not for everyone.
That’s dead money though apart from from hopefully having good holidays, one could have a camper van have quite a few years of great holidays then sell the van this would make more economic sense. I use mine as a daily so in your situation you still need to consider the cost of a car.
The bubbles about to burst...industry experts say it's already bumped...second hand prices have tumbled, these vans like new are worth a fraction once delivered...
New campers are still selling at the moment. Second hand prices are all over the place. There is so much spec difference in similarly priced vans. Unfortunately people paid way over the top for poor spec vans and are now trying to sell for way more than they are worth
What isn’t mentioned is the amp hour capacity of the lithium batteries, or how many watts the solar panels can produce. Inverter hobs are 2.2kw, and a typical solar panel maybe 150 watts. Big big difference. Also what happens to thr warranty when these small converters go bust, when people with £100k+ to spend go for bigger camper vans from more established manufacturers?
The batteries are spec’d by the customer and can be significantly larger than you normally see. The solar panels would be a minimum of 300w for that kind of setup, still relatively small though if you had the hob maxed out. Regarding the companies going bust, it’s hard to say, would be dependant on circumstances, what’s gone wrong etc. A few have gone bust in recent times, not sure what happened to warranty claims. Some also re setup, wonder if the honoured claims after “name change” 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, as per the title 🤣 The campervans at the show are largely VW’s. There are other brand but they are mostly Motorhomes. Tonight’s video has Mercedes and Man. VW’s are popular due to the heritage, people buy the badge, they buy for the better residual values, for the wider range of aftermarket parts, for the large following of like minded owners, the gatherings etc. They aren’t for everyone, but this channel has been predominantly VW since I started it (to help VW owners/buyers) Over time, more brands will feature more. It doesn’t really matter what you drive, we all can still experience the same outdoor lifestyle
At that price point there are so many options. My argument of a Transporter being a daily driver goes out the window with that kind of money, as if someone can afford that, they would likely be purchasing a camper as a pure leisure vehicle only 🤷🏻♂️ There were some lovely bigger vans too including a Mercedes sprinter at £195k. Will show that next week or later this week
@@StaycationLifestyle I don't think I'd live long enough to be a full timer to get my moneys worth but absolutely stunning and the self leveling system would be perfect
I own a T5 4motion and I’m a long serving VW fanboy having owned over a dozen of their vehicles over the last 20yrs, however these prices are an absolute joke. They’re vans not a coach built motorhome like a Hymer. The arse is falling out of this market and rightly so.
There were an incredible amount of “adventure” vans at the show. Mainly the Crafter/Sprinter size vehicles. All with the off road tyres. Apparantly it’s what people want
@@StaycationLifestyle I have considered getting the swamper look for my van, but rather save my money now. The dropped urban look used to be the fashion, swamper is the new thing.
You certainly could, or a good camper and a great car. They sell them though, there is a market. They do contain a lot of kit. They are over marketed with poor build and poor kit like some brands, which are over priced.
For140k I could build 2 4x4 sprinters with top spec Yes there nice but only for a day out not camping as you’ll nead an awning so just get a proper van not a toy And yes I’ve had 3 lwb sportlines
@@chrismartin4341 The "top spec" Sprinters are coming to the market by more manufactures and the prices are more than this. Some brands are developing, but a few are in the market already like the Project Yonder, I thnk that has a base price of circa £155k (Brand new)
Of course there are alternatives from a £1 million Earth roamer camper to a tent and a £500 car. You miss the point, In that you can have a brand new camper conversion in an Elgrand or Alphard for around the £18k mark and that includes the vehicle that come with between 250 & 289 bhp V6 , 4x4, luxury leather interior, twin powered doors and tailgate etc etc, with full service history 40-50k miles and are a better quality and reliability than the VW offering. There is also a 'scene' for if you into that sort of thing, and if you are a boy racer then the 280bhp versions make mincemeat of any VW van on the road. There is no logic in spending £80+k on a camper, its just daft, so daft in fact that Im mulling over some ideas on the back of decades campervaning experience for some 'must haves' to bring to market for the VW camper scene, as I want in on the action of liberating these types of their hard earned cash. Each to their own I guess.
The very last sentence sums up everything. People choose to spend their money how they wish. As crazy as the price may seem. We know you can spend less, but no matter what anyone says, people will still spend how they wish. They could choose a cheap car, as it does the same as an expensive one. A cheap house, because it still has the same function as a more expensive one. Food and drink, people prefer different brands. People spend big money on Apple products, but don’t the cheaper ones do the same? I am of course coming up with ridiculous statements here, because the value is found by the purchaser. I appreciate the Elgrand and the Allhard, but I wouldn’t buy one, nor several other models. I would however like a Marco Polo, but they are crazy money too. I couldn’t spend £80k on a camper and I do understand your point, but it’s your last line what means these vans will continue to sell AND retain strong sale values going forward.
Load of nonsense , all that thought all that cost but no toilet no privacy no shower . Do the designers spend days on end working on design and spec but forget about the basic human requirement for a toilet 🚻
There is a portable toilet, which many use in a pop up tent. Not perfect, but it’s a small vehicle, that can be used daily. I’d much rather have trips to the beach in a Transporter sized vehicle, than a much bigger Motorhome.
🤔 they nearly all have toilets ! Stored in one of the cupboards! Some do have showers, they are mainly specced to what people want. Don’t get the no privacy comment either 🤷♂️ yer they are not giant motor homes, but they fit on your drive, can be used every day, fit through a drive through, and nearly all car parks, are very economical and anyone can drive them. It’s all about choice not nonsense at all.
@@darrenwhyman4539 Absolutely right 👍🏼 Some people may say a Lamborghini costs £250k but only has 2 seats, I can’t carry my children. Different vehicles for different purposes 😀
The nonsense seems to be coming from you. We’ve had a T2, T3, T4, T5 and T6. None had permanent toilet or shower facilities and we seem to have managed fine. We can go anywhere, park anywhere , get 40+ mpg and use the vehicle every day for everyday use, remove the seat/bed and use as a capacious van.
The designers of these things fit gadgets and frills to sell their product. They give no thought to actually using them. A tojlet is an essential piece of kit. I always wonder where you put your wet gear when it's not stopped p*ssing it down for 5 days in the arctic circle or N Scotland. I built my own lwb poptop with experience of 40 years in a canvas tent, toilet dry hanging area, double bed. Having travelled throughout europe incuding Iceland, Faroes even Wales I have found the most interesting places usually suffer from excess precipitation! We seldom see you tube videos showing set up in sh*te weather
All of these have toilets and showers. Regarding wet gear, most people utilise an awning. Not all converters are owners, however each of those in this video, do use Transporters. Sounds like you had some great adventures
Vw California are cars that you have a rough nights sleep in . They are not anywhere near adequate for comfortable living for any length of time compared to less expensive compact narrow Motorhome ….. waste of money in my opinion . People buy them for image , I like to buy for image also but on top of my list is comfort practicality
They are daily drivers and that’s a big factor. They are a type of vehicle that suits some buyers (an incredible amount) but not others. The new variant of California is currently set to be built on the Multivan platform, which I’m sure will still sell well, yet many will say it’s too small. It’s difficult to argue against them when they are so popular and many people enjoy holidays in them every year. Would it be more comfortable in a bigger vehicle? Absolutely yes, but there is compromise as in the daily driver aspect. Would I spend that much on a small camper, no, but many will
There are 5.4 m long transit camper vans that have the shower , the toilet and lounge areas that convert into beds . The width of them are only the width of a van and the length can be parked in any normal space . Only restriction would be height barriers . They are mostly less expensive than the California vans . People buy all sorts of different things in life from completely different requirements but I do believe that a lot of people who come into the leisure vehicle market by way of California vans are not aware of the less expensive but much more versatile alternatives but hey each to there own . I believe the overall better experience is not with the California or nugget type van 🚐
@@Johndoe10007 There are Transporters with the same layout, showers and toilets in the back. Everyone has different preferences and budgets. The Transporters hold their value well, other brands not so much so. I was having a conversation at the show regarding a Transit conversion and it was said that the problem they had was residual values. There are lots of other brands producing similar sized vehicles that are much cheaper, but regardless we can all visit the same places 👍🏼
They have a target market which buy their vans. They sell well and this one sold at the show. It’s much better than a lot of the mass produced builds which are expensive for the lower quality of components they use
This is nuts these prices, I've been campervaning for over 4 decades and I can say with some authority that you do not need to spend this kind of money to go campervaning. For example for £15-£18 k you can have a 2010 luxury spec Nissan Elgrand campervan with 250hp, 4x4, twin sliding electric doors, birds eye surround cameras, satnav, front and rear ac, etc etc, with about 40-50k miles and all you need for a fantastic camping trip. Then spend the £50 -60k you save by taking more time off work to go away in your van. Its not rocket science kids, don't be fooled by this nonsense.
You’re right, but the same could be said about anything, it’s about choice. You could buy a Nissan Micra instead of an expensive car. I totally get your point, these prices have gone crazy. You don’t even need to spend £15k on an Elgrand though, you could get the same campervanning experience from a £5k van and save even more money though. People buy these for different reasons. Some enjoy the “Transporter Scene” the strong residuals, the aftermarket options. Have you seen the price of some of the new Mercedes Sprinter conversions? Getting towards nearly £200k
@@StaycationLifestyle Of course there are alternatives from a £1 million Earth roamer camper to a tent and a £500 car. You miss the point, In that you can have a brand new camper conversion in an Elgrand or Alphard for around the £18k mark and that includes the vehicle that come with between 250 & 289 bhp V6 , 4x4, luxury leather interior, twin powered doors and tailgate etc etc, with full service history 40-50k miles and are a better quality and reliability than the VW offering. There is also a 'scene' for if you into that sort of thing, and if you are a boy racer then the 280bhp versions make mincemeat of any VW van on the road. There is no logic in spending £80+k on a camper, its just daft, so daft in fact that Im mulling over some ideas on the back of decades campervaning experience for some 'must haves' to bring to market for the VW camper scene, as I want in on the action of liberating these types of their hard earned cash. Each to their own I guess.
There are so many designers out there now that they canbuild your van moure like a fabulous home all individually designed for 25.000 you provide your van or they get them for you at amazing prices and they are a lot cheaper than these mass produced ones which awful and boring and badly designed
There certainly are, some very good converters out there. Problem is there are ones that look good, but aren’t 🤦🏼♂️ It’s a minefield. There are no mass produced ones in this video, that’s for sure.
There is a shower and a toilet. Are you aware of the base van costs? Yes you could easily buy another brand for much less, however generally have far worse residuals in the future. Doesn’t particularly matter what vehicle you have you can still visit the same places. This size van is a daily driver, used for general tasks as well as a camper. You could buy a much bigger van with toilet and shower cubicle, but would probably be too big for a daily. For reference though, these £60k vans, where £39,999 only a few years ago. The base van price has largely driven that increase
Maybe its me, but I cant fathom why people would spend 140K on a van that of that size no matter how well its spec'ed out. I dont mean to sound judgemental, each to their own, to me they are way to small and cramped. No doubt they have the advantage of being smaller giving access to parking, easier to drive and cheaper to run etc.
WARNING, before you splash out £65K, by 2028 46% of all vans sold must be fully electric. Otherwise manufactures incure a £15K fine for every non ZEV van sold. This will mean a lot of petrol stations will start to disappear or be converted to EV charging. Your loverly Transporter may crash in value. . .
I think it will be quite sometime before we start seeing petrol stations disappearing. Isn’t it meant to be 70% by 2030 also? It’s going to happen quite quick (unless things change again) There is currently very limited options for a campervan which is fully electric. We will see more hybrids over the next year or so. What will happen to prices is a good question, there are arguments for both values reducing and also increasing
@@flashback9966 truth is, we don’t really know. Some are saying it will completely change by then. There is hope for synthetic fuels. Who knows. But you are right regarding ULEZ.
@@StaycationLifestyle Quick question , I’ve been looking for a van to convert, think I’ve found one for around £40k, looking at using Out and About campers for the conversion. Any thoughts on company.? Cheers Nigel
@@nigeljohnson6596 What age/spec/engine etc van for £40k? By the time you add a conversion your up to the value you can buy a brand new camper from an NCC approved manufacturer
🤣 If only I was. I don’t even get invited on their press events (yet), maybe one day. I just like the vans and have done for years. VW and Converters sell them, demand is high, so are they overpriced?
Thank you. Fabulous video. But we are biased as the one with the copper sink is ours. John, Katie and their team at Dirty Weekender have been fabulous to work with. We met them at the show in 2022 and were hooked on the idea of creating a bespoke van. They have listened to our ideas and made brilliant suggestions along the way. We trust them completely. It is our first ever van and we have even been abroad for the duration of the build doing design tweaks by message or phone call. Your video was the first time we saw the completed van which we have now picked up and tested on a very successful weekend. It’s clear from the comments that van choice and style are very personal. We wouldn’t dream of having a coach built van or anything bigger than the one we’ve got; but I understand why some might. Each to their own I guess. In the meantime, we are very happy with ours.
Wow, that’s amazing. I truly love the van. I was only at the show for 2 days, but I went to see it 4 times 😁
It was Katie I spoke to who told me the story. I was not only impressed with the van, but the company also. Very passionate and knowledgeable.
I’m sure you will have some amazing adventures in it.
You have made some great choices 👍🏼
@@StaycationLifestyle Thank you. We have a few more short trips planned to get used to it and then we will start doing what it was designed for - long trips in Europe.
It would be great to meet up when you have returned from your long trips. I have an idea 💡
Love that sink 😍
We appreciate you mentioning us throughout. Brilliant and very informative video! 😄
It’s a pleasure, many of the genuinely “high spec” vans had it 👍🏼
The pop up roof the other way around I like 👌
18:05 ha that seat uses exactly the same material that's on my living room sofa. Same colour too.
That teal & orange interior is beautiful! 😍❤️. My favourite colours!
I truly love it. I went to see it 5 times 😁😍
It's so nice 😍
Excellent presentation ! Luving the professionalism and the editing ! Merci beaucoup from France
Thank you
That last van is very nice & also nice to see something very different 😎
It sure is. I genuinely really like it. Their customer is going to be very happy when they see it 😍
My van has Bodans interior with a 129cm Rib bed, microwave and 60l fridge, webastos stationary heating, and a BLUETTI ac200max…the quality is just superb!
They are good vans and I do like the BLUETTI. I have that one myself 👍🏼
So glad you got to show people Knights custom conversions, we've got our van at Knights at the moment hopefully to be completed in March.
They have some lovely features. Which package did you opt for?
@@StaycationLifestyle We are converting our existing T6 rather than T6.1 so we ripped out our conversion to redo it all at Knights. We've gone for a mixture of the Prestige tourer and Tourer Plus I think, but they are also facelifting the front end with LVR 6.1 front bumper.
Very nice. I’m sure it will be amazing. I forgot the mention in the video the Vanshades chair pod. That’s a great storage idea for chairs on a tailgate
@@StaycationLifestyle I hope so :D very excited to be honest haha. Unfortunately we've got a barndoors rear end and like our big cosy camping chairs, but we have got van shades, and their new sliding store storage pod.
Just followed you on instagram, incase you wanted to see the conversion once we get the van back :)
I’d be excited too. I’ve just followed you back, will look forward to seeing it. I need to start posting more on Instagram really.
Thank you, what a great video👌
Pleasure, glad you liked it
It really doesnt get better than the knights one absolutely amazing.
That one is a very nice van 😁
Love all these vans . The ecowagon is class although some of the styling I personally wouldn't do. I have the California Coast and you know what, after watching your video I absolutely love it. It's unique in its own way 🚔⛷️🏄🏼♂️🎸
California’s are nice. I show one in my latest video and was looking on the website I mention as they sell them 🤔
I think the pricetags on these vehicles are bonkers! I like that my small panel van is so simple and replaceble. It means I can go everywhere and not be afraid to get it dirty or damage a plastic spoiler.
They aren’t for everyone. Many are happy with older vans, it some do like newer stuff
The Ecowagen Sold at the show. Big spec, big Money
Despite the big price tag that people laugh at, they sell them. There is a market for big ticket component conversions.
Was it the most expensive there?
@@lovevans911 It was the most expensive Transporter. There were other Campervans Crafter size which I will show next time of which some cost more. Like a Merc Sprinter for £195k
I like the last Borland’s one with the off road tires because I think it would work best for me. That is not to say I don’t think the other vans are not impressive, I just can’t see myself using them. Really enjoyed the video though thanks for showing me around.
Thank you. Yes the Bodans is nice. There definitely seems to be an appeal for off road at present
I like the way the seat faces out towards the side door in the last van I didn’t realise you could do that in a transporter I think I have only seen it in crafters. I’d like to see how the pull out bed works.
Is it just me or has the world gone mad?
You show the RIB bed. I have one in my T6.1. However I find that due to the wheel arch height it is 7cm higher than normal so feet cannot be placed on the floor. The headrests don't lift high enough for an adult to use safely. Have you looked at this? I spoke to the chap from Cambridge Campers who told me they hammered down the arch as much as possible and there is no more they can do about it. BTW, I am really enjoying your videos, keep it up.
Great video once again mate showing the differences.
140K for a transporter?
Horses for courses I suppose.
Keep up the good work.👍
Crazy money isn’t it. A lot has gone into it and they do have a market for them. You have to have a certain type of wealth to afford a luxury purchase as that. It’s certainly out of reach for most of us
We upgraded from a t6.1 to a fiat Ducato and what a difference just better quality all round and a 9 speed zf gearbox oh and a full size shower
It seems to be common at the moment for people to be moving to the bigger vehicles. More converters are building on these platforms too, the Man, Crafter, Sprinter along with the tried and tested Fiats.
More luxury and comfort
I have seen the fiats in passing and always think how good they look and the size looks great but when I get my own camper I still think I’d go for a vw, I just find them super cool.
Last 2 vans couldn't see fridge. Crazy money
They all have fridges. The last one has a massive one, due to them using the van on long trips away in the middle of nowhere. It was purpose built 👍🏼
Still, they are big money. With these these you can do the maths with the spec included and you can see where the price comes from
One can stay in luxury hotels for years and that will come out cheaper than these type of expensive camper vans which does not even have proper toilet or shower
@@mowuvz3672 it would. But a campervan/motorhome/caravan is a lifestyle. A life choice people make.
It’s not a “cheap” way of holidaying, that could be done in a tent.
It’s certainly not for everyone.
That’s dead money though apart from from hopefully having good holidays, one could have a camper van have quite a few years of great holidays then sell the van this would make more economic sense. I use mine as a daily so in your situation you still need to consider the cost of a car.
thought you said you was reviewing the Bespoke ford transit
I did/have. I haven’t edited that yet. It will follow soon 👍
I’d hate to see the depreciation on those £140000 vans …. They are amazing but at that price I’d have a nice £60000 van and a apartment in Turkey
It’s certainly a luxury purchase for wealthy people. However there is a market for them and they sell well
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The bubbles about to burst...industry experts say it's already bumped...second hand prices have tumbled, these vans like new are worth a fraction once delivered...
New campers are still selling at the moment. Second hand prices are all over the place. There is so much spec difference in similarly priced vans. Unfortunately people paid way over the top for poor spec vans and are now trying to sell for way more than they are worth
What isn’t mentioned is the amp hour capacity of the lithium batteries, or how many watts the solar panels can produce. Inverter hobs are 2.2kw, and a typical solar panel maybe 150 watts. Big big difference. Also what happens to thr warranty when these small converters go bust, when people with £100k+ to spend go for bigger camper vans from more established manufacturers?
The batteries are spec’d by the customer and can be significantly larger than you normally see. The solar panels would be a minimum of 300w for that kind of setup, still relatively small though if you had the hob maxed out.
Regarding the companies going bust, it’s hard to say, would be dependant on circumstances, what’s gone wrong etc.
A few have gone bust in recent times, not sure what happened to warranty claims. Some also re setup, wonder if the honoured claims after “name change” 🤷🏻♂️
More VWs 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Yes, as per the title 🤣 The campervans at the show are largely VW’s.
There are other brand but they are mostly Motorhomes.
Tonight’s video has Mercedes and Man.
VW’s are popular due to the heritage, people buy the badge, they buy for the better residual values, for the wider range of aftermarket parts, for the large following of like minded owners, the gatherings etc.
They aren’t for everyone, but this channel has been predominantly VW since I started it (to help VW owners/buyers)
Over time, more brands will feature more.
It doesn’t really matter what you drive, we all can still experience the same outdoor lifestyle
its crashtested. thats the main point. because anything than this folds like a paper....
Eco wagon looks stunning but for 140k I'd go bigger without the top end spec
At that price point there are so many options. My argument of a Transporter being a daily driver goes out the window with that kind of money, as if someone can afford that, they would likely be purchasing a camper as a pure leisure vehicle only 🤷🏻♂️ There were some lovely bigger vans too including a Mercedes sprinter at £195k. Will show that next week or later this week
@@StaycationLifestyle I don't think I'd live long enough to be a full timer to get my moneys worth but absolutely stunning and the self leveling system would be perfect
only vw and mann there, no mercedes or fiat or others ???
Yes but as per the video title this was about VW Transporters 😁 Next weeks video contains Mercedes Sprinters, including a very big spec one.
I own a T5 4motion and I’m a long serving VW fanboy having owned over a dozen of their vehicles over the last 20yrs, however these prices are an absolute joke. They’re vans not a coach built motorhome like a Hymer. The arse is falling out of this market and rightly so.
BF Goodrich tyres look good, swamper etc. However will lose -25% fuel efficiency, and on a long Europe or Scotland drive thats a lot.
There were an incredible amount of “adventure” vans at the show. Mainly the Crafter/Sprinter size vehicles. All with the off road tyres.
Apparantly it’s what people want
@@StaycationLifestyle I have considered getting the swamper look for my van, but rather save my money now. The dropped urban look used to be the fashion, swamper is the new thing.
Wrong we don’t see a difference at all
You could have 2 very capable Camper vans for 140k , it's very similar to Vanhaven if you want the best Transporter this is for you
You certainly could, or a good camper and a great car. They sell them though, there is a market. They do contain a lot of kit.
They are over marketed with poor build and poor kit like some brands, which are over priced.
For140k I could build 2 4x4 sprinters with top spec
Yes there nice but only for a day out not camping as you’ll nead an awning so just get a proper van not a toy
And yes I’ve had 3 lwb sportlines
@@chrismartin4341 The "top spec" Sprinters are coming to the market by more manufactures and the prices are more than this. Some brands are developing, but a few are in the market already like the Project Yonder, I thnk that has a base price of circa £155k (Brand new)
Great channel- but please learn the difference between ‘which’ and ‘that’.
Oops didn’t notice. Will rewatch. Thank you 👍🏼
Not one toilet to be seen, how can Westfallia seem to be able to do it, oh I forgot to mention the shower.
Each converter produces different. These all have toilets and some have showers on the tailgate.
Which specific Weatfalia are you comparing them to?
Of course there are alternatives from a £1 million Earth roamer camper to a tent and a £500 car.
You miss the point, In that you can have a brand new camper conversion in an Elgrand or Alphard for around the £18k mark and that includes the vehicle that come with between 250 & 289 bhp V6 , 4x4, luxury leather interior, twin powered doors and tailgate etc etc, with full service history 40-50k miles and are a better quality and reliability than the VW offering.
There is also a 'scene' for if you into that sort of thing, and if you are a boy racer then the 280bhp versions make mincemeat of any VW van on the road.
There is no logic in spending £80+k on a camper, its just daft, so daft in fact that Im mulling over some ideas on the back of decades campervaning experience for some 'must haves' to bring to market for the VW camper scene, as I want in on the action of liberating these types of their hard earned cash.
Each to their own I guess.
The very last sentence sums up everything. People choose to spend their money how they wish. As crazy as the price may seem.
We know you can spend less, but no matter what anyone says, people will still spend how they wish.
They could choose a cheap car, as it does the same as an expensive one. A cheap house, because it still has the same function as a more expensive one. Food and drink, people prefer different brands.
People spend big money on Apple products, but don’t the cheaper ones do the same?
I am of course coming up with ridiculous statements here, because the value is found by the purchaser.
I appreciate the Elgrand and the Allhard, but I wouldn’t buy one, nor several other models.
I would however like a Marco Polo, but they are crazy money too.
I couldn’t spend £80k on a camper and I do understand your point, but it’s your last line what means these vans will continue to sell AND retain strong sale values going forward.
I will wait and buy a 5000 euro old 4x4 and convert it myself
Load of nonsense , all that thought all that cost but no toilet no privacy no shower . Do the designers spend days on end working on design and spec but forget about the basic human requirement for a toilet 🚻
There is a portable toilet, which many use in a pop up tent. Not perfect, but it’s a small vehicle, that can be used daily.
I’d much rather have trips to the beach in a Transporter sized vehicle, than a much bigger Motorhome.
🤔 they nearly all have toilets ! Stored in one of the cupboards! Some do have showers, they are mainly specced to what people want. Don’t get the no privacy comment either 🤷♂️ yer they are not giant motor homes, but they fit on your drive, can be used every day, fit through a drive through, and nearly all car parks, are very economical and anyone can drive them. It’s all about choice not nonsense at all.
@@darrenwhyman4539 Absolutely right 👍🏼 Some people may say a Lamborghini costs £250k but only has 2 seats, I can’t carry my children. Different vehicles for different purposes 😀
Also what about campsites (most have toilets) most towns/villages have toilets and most cafe’s do 😂
The nonsense seems to be coming from you. We’ve had a T2, T3, T4, T5 and T6. None had permanent toilet or shower facilities and we seem to have managed fine. We can go anywhere, park anywhere , get 40+ mpg and use the vehicle every day for everyday use, remove the seat/bed and use as a capacious van.
I’ve been looking for months for a camper van stupid prices and I’ve got 80k to spend but seen nothing really inspiring vw all bog standard interiors
Have you seen the Dirty Weekender in this video. Certainly different
The designers of these things fit gadgets and frills to sell their product. They give no thought to actually using them. A tojlet is an essential piece of kit. I always wonder where you put your wet gear when it's not stopped p*ssing it down for 5 days in the arctic circle or N Scotland. I built my own lwb poptop with experience of 40 years in a canvas tent, toilet dry hanging area, double bed. Having travelled throughout europe incuding Iceland, Faroes even Wales I have found the most interesting places usually suffer from excess precipitation! We seldom see you tube videos showing set up in sh*te weather
All of these have toilets and showers. Regarding wet gear, most people utilise an awning.
Not all converters are owners, however each of those in this video, do use Transporters.
Sounds like you had some great adventures
Vw California are cars that you have a rough nights sleep in . They are not anywhere near adequate for comfortable living for any length of time compared to less expensive compact narrow Motorhome ….. waste of money in my opinion . People buy them for image , I like to buy for image also but on top of my list is comfort practicality
They are daily drivers and that’s a big factor. They are a type of vehicle that suits some buyers (an incredible amount) but not others.
The new variant of California is currently set to be built on the Multivan platform, which I’m sure will still sell well, yet many will say it’s too small.
It’s difficult to argue against them when they are so popular and many people enjoy holidays in them every year.
Would it be more comfortable in a bigger vehicle? Absolutely yes, but there is compromise as in the daily driver aspect.
Would I spend that much on a small camper, no, but many will
There are 5.4 m long transit camper vans that have the shower , the toilet and lounge areas that convert into beds . The width of them are only the width of a van and the length can be parked in any normal space . Only restriction would be height barriers . They are mostly less expensive than the California vans . People buy all sorts of different things in life from completely different requirements but I do believe that a lot of people who come into the leisure vehicle market by way of California vans are not aware of the less expensive but much more versatile alternatives but hey each to there own . I believe the overall better experience is not with the California or nugget type van 🚐
@@Johndoe10007 There are Transporters with the same layout, showers and toilets in the back.
Everyone has different preferences and budgets. The Transporters hold their value well, other brands not so much so.
I was having a conversation at the show regarding a Transit conversion and it was said that the problem they had was residual values.
There are lots of other brands producing similar sized vehicles that are much cheaper, but regardless we can all visit the same places 👍🏼
The converters have been ripping the public off for years.
I think some have, but definitely not all
Eco wagon is too expensive think they are actually ripping people off
They have a target market which buy their vans. They sell well and this one sold at the show. It’s much better than a lot of the mass produced builds which are expensive for the lower quality of components they use
This is nuts these prices, I've been campervaning for over 4 decades and I can say with some authority that you do not need to spend this kind of money to go campervaning.
For example for £15-£18 k you can have a 2010 luxury spec Nissan Elgrand campervan with 250hp, 4x4, twin sliding electric doors, birds eye surround cameras, satnav, front and rear ac, etc etc, with about 40-50k miles and all you need for a fantastic camping trip. Then spend the £50 -60k you save by taking more time off work to go away in your van.
Its not rocket science kids, don't be fooled by this nonsense.
You’re right, but the same could be said about anything, it’s about choice. You could buy a Nissan Micra instead of an expensive car.
I totally get your point, these prices have gone crazy. You don’t even need to spend £15k on an Elgrand though, you could get the same campervanning experience from a £5k van and save even more money though.
People buy these for different reasons. Some enjoy the “Transporter Scene” the strong residuals, the aftermarket options.
Have you seen the price of some of the new Mercedes Sprinter conversions? Getting towards nearly £200k
@@StaycationLifestyle Of course there are alternatives from a £1 million Earth roamer camper to a tent and a £500 car.
You miss the point, In that you can have a brand new camper conversion in an Elgrand or Alphard for around the £18k mark and that includes the vehicle that come with between 250 & 289 bhp V6 , 4x4, luxury leather interior, twin powered doors and tailgate etc etc, with full service history 40-50k miles and are a better quality and reliability than the VW offering.
There is also a 'scene' for if you into that sort of thing, and if you are a boy racer then the 280bhp versions make mincemeat of any VW van on the road.
There is no logic in spending £80+k on a camper, its just daft, so daft in fact that Im mulling over some ideas on the back of decades campervaning experience for some 'must haves' to bring to market for the VW camper scene, as I want in on the action of liberating these types of their hard earned cash.
Each to their own I guess.
There are so many designers out there now that they canbuild your van moure like a fabulous home all individually designed for 25.000 you provide your van or they get them for you at amazing prices and they are a lot cheaper than these mass produced ones which awful and boring and badly designed
There certainly are, some very good converters out there. Problem is there are ones that look good, but aren’t 🤦🏼♂️ It’s a minefield.
There are no mass produced ones in this video, that’s for sure.
£60K
No shower
No toilet etc etc
Some of you “experts” fall for these cons every time
Get a grip
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is a shower and a toilet.
Are you aware of the base van costs? Yes you could easily buy another brand for much less, however generally have far worse residuals in the future.
Doesn’t particularly matter what vehicle you have you can still visit the same places.
This size van is a daily driver, used for general tasks as well as a camper.
You could buy a much bigger van with toilet and shower cubicle, but would probably be too big for a daily.
For reference though, these £60k vans, where £39,999 only a few years ago. The base van price has largely driven that increase
£140k for a VW camper 🤣🤦♂️
Just to give a perspective of how much more civilized these vw-vans used to be -----) ua-cam.com/video/ZafCU84I9_I/v-deo.html
Unless It got a toilet and shower, I'm not interested
They all have both 🤷🏻♂️
Click bait... Nothing different here total waste of time
It’s not clickbait. They are incredible and the last one is VERY different 🤷🏻♂️
😂 You should probably take a closer look at conversions if you think these aren’t different. They are worlds apart from the usual rubbish
Maybe its me, but I cant fathom why people would spend 140K on a van that of that size no matter how well its spec'ed out. I dont mean to sound judgemental, each to their own, to me they are way to small and cramped.
No doubt they have the advantage of being smaller giving access to parking, easier to drive and cheaper to run etc.
I know what you mean, it’s a tremendous amount of money. There is a market for them though, as they sell and this one sold at the show
Trendy with younger folks with mucho wonga
@@JoolsUK very well put. I'm neither young nor trendy. But even if I had 100K to spend it wouldn't be on a transporter size van for sure.
I don’t think the buyers are that young surprisingly. I am due to speak to them soon and will find out
I guess for someone with ridiculous amounts of money who loves Transporters, it makes sense.
WARNING, before you splash out £65K, by 2028 46% of all vans sold must be fully electric. Otherwise manufactures incure a £15K fine for every non ZEV van sold. This will mean a lot of petrol stations will start to disappear or be converted to EV charging. Your loverly Transporter may crash in value. . .
I think it will be quite sometime before we start seeing petrol stations disappearing.
Isn’t it meant to be 70% by 2030 also? It’s going to happen quite quick (unless things change again)
There is currently very limited options for a campervan which is fully electric. We will see more hybrids over the next year or so.
What will happen to prices is a good question, there are arguments for both values reducing and also increasing
@@StaycationLifestyleYou may be right, but remember thousands of van drivers were caught out by ULEZ. They just didn't see it coming. . .
@@flashback9966 truth is, we don’t really know. Some are saying it will completely change by then. There is hope for synthetic fuels.
Who knows. But you are right regarding ULEZ.
@@StaycationLifestyle Quick question , I’ve been looking for a van to convert, think I’ve found one for around £40k, looking at using Out and About campers for the conversion. Any thoughts on company.?
Cheers
Nigel
@@nigeljohnson6596 What age/spec/engine etc van for £40k? By the time you add a conversion your up to the value you can buy a brand new camper from an NCC approved manufacturer
They're basically all the same
🤷🏻♂️ There are huge differences 🤣
Stop talking like an AI ROBOT, it spoils the reviews.
If only I had their knowledge also. Understood 👍🏼
vw camper van the most overpriced vehicle in history
This guys delivery is shocking
Care to elaborate? 🤷🏻♂️ Perhaps provide some help and advice to learn from.
Happy to listen on how to improve.
@@StaycationLifestyleyour delivery is excellent
Way overpriced vw as usual and your paid by vw
🤣 If only I was. I don’t even get invited on their press events (yet), maybe one day. I just like the vans and have done for years.
VW and Converters sell them, demand is high, so are they overpriced?