Ever since the Odachi I have been waiting for a paddle like the Surge. So stoked that Werner finally brought this to existence, and I am super stoked on how it feels!
I tried an Odachi last fall after one of my slalom runs at U.S. Nationals and was grooving to Werner finally designing modern slalom-like blades for creek boating (I currently use a Galasport Naja Midi, about to get a Manic). Methinks I'll need to give the Surge and the Strike a go when I get the chance, and actually try them on a proper creek.
i will keep to my shogun for now i think its a shame here in norway you can only buy werner and at paddles best i have used is the robson chilli but thats a rodeo paddle and i paddle a axiom so i prefer slalom or rodeo paddles
Awesome video! So informative! No one is doing paddle reviews like this!! Please breakdown the double diamond/ play paddles! I’m wondering what degree you prefer? I’m using a player, 0 offset, straight shaft now. Looking into a double diamond bent shaft, not sure what degree of offset should be.
So quick question that wasn’t addressed. Werner made some claims that the odachi wasn’t a really good paddle to roll with and was mainly for racing. Being that the Surge is a lot like the odachi with the forward bent blade. Does it, the surge, allow a roll like a normal paddle or is it more difficult to roll with. I still end up upside down from time to time and am on the fence with this paddle for that reason. I still need to be able to roll when needed. Thoughts???
It’s not that it is necessarily a much harder paddle to roll with. It’s just with the forward bend blades it sometimes doesn’t slice up to the surface quite as easy. I haven’t noticed an issue the few rolls I have had, at least not to the point I’d be nervous having it.
I use 200cm 30degree paddles, on all designs. I find switching between degrees and lengths doesn’t make sense. I like that 200cm is long enough for power but doesn’t feel like too much paddle to handle. And 30degrees is a nice all around offset.
wait. aren't you sponsored by werner paddles?!!!!!!!! sponsored "reviews" are a complete no-go! not cool. (also paid promotions need to be disclaimed on youtube) paddle looks dope though. definitely gonna test.
@@danejacksonkayak I would appreciate if you disclosed whether or not you got it for free though. Of course if you get it for free you're incentivized to give a less critical review so that you can get free blades in the future from them (I'm not saying that's what happened here but it's just always good to disclose that so we know the perspective of the reviewer). Looks like a rad paddle though, perfect to use most season so I dont have to break my odiachi training on the green and can just break it out for race day
Pr3Historic yes I did get the paddle for free, but I am not being paid by them to put out a positive review. Just wanted to give my 2¢ on this new blade and how I felt about it.
Right on. That was a good review.m dude. Looking forward to trying one.
I tried an Odachi last fall after one of my slalom runs at U.S. Nationals and was grooving to Werner finally designing modern slalom-like blades for creek boating (I currently use a Galasport Naja Midi, about to get a Manic). Methinks I'll need to give the Surge and the Strike a go when I get the chance, and actually try them on a proper creek.
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thanks for the review
Love the fireside chat!
That would match your play boat sooooo well
Good paddle and good video.
i will keep to my shogun for now i think its a shame here in norway you can only buy werner and at paddles best i have used is the robson chilli but thats a rodeo paddle and i paddle a axiom so i prefer slalom or rodeo paddles
sick video dane!!! do you think it would be good for play boating?
Awesome video! So informative! No one is doing paddle reviews like this!!
Please breakdown the double diamond/ play paddles! I’m wondering what degree you prefer?
I’m using a player, 0 offset, straight shaft now. Looking into a double diamond bent shaft, not sure what degree of offset should be.
Baked!
Hi. Thanks for the vid. Question: Any issues with the Surge or Strike breaking at the neck whether due to rocks or big water? thanks.
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Can u feel your throat? Hahhhhaaaaaa. Love ya.
So quick question that wasn’t addressed. Werner made some claims that the odachi wasn’t a really good paddle to roll with and was mainly for racing. Being that the Surge is a lot like the odachi with the forward bent blade. Does it, the surge, allow a roll like a normal paddle or is it more difficult to roll with. I still end up upside down from time to time and am on the fence with this paddle for that reason. I still need to be able to roll when needed. Thoughts???
It’s not that it is necessarily a much harder paddle to roll with. It’s just with the forward bend blades it sometimes doesn’t slice up to the surface quite as easy. I haven’t noticed an issue the few rolls I have had, at least not to the point I’d be nervous having it.
@@danejacksonkayak sweet. thanks for the timely reply! keep kicking ass!
I use a Tykal Stick paddle made by gala sport with a big forward sweep. It is foam cored though which makes rolling really easy and I adore them.
What size did you get?
So it seems everybody is taking money to advertise a paddle.
Is the smaller paddle the same price
I believe so
What length paddle are you using? and why?
I use 200cm 30degree paddles, on all designs. I find switching between degrees and lengths doesn’t make sense. I like that 200cm is long enough for power but doesn’t feel like too much paddle to handle. And 30degrees is a nice all around offset.
@@danejacksonkayak good reply, sounds short though are you 5"9ish?
What offset and length you using on the surge?
*feather
I use 200cm r30 degree on all my paddles
please upload at 30fps :(
$300 for a paddle, think I'll
take up hand paddling it's much cheaper.
wait. aren't you sponsored by werner paddles?!!!!!!!!
sponsored "reviews" are a complete no-go!
not cool.
(also paid promotions need to be disclaimed on youtube)
paddle looks dope though. definitely gonna test.
Not getting paid, just speaking my honest opinion.
@@danejacksonkayak so you are not getting these paddles for free but you paid for them?
@@danejacksonkayak I would appreciate if you disclosed whether or not you got it for free though. Of course if you get it for free you're incentivized to give a less critical review so that you can get free blades in the future from them (I'm not saying that's what happened here but it's just always good to disclose that so we know the perspective of the reviewer). Looks like a rad paddle though, perfect to use most season so I dont have to break my odiachi training on the green and can just break it out for race day
Pr3Historic yes I did get the paddle for free, but I am not being paid by them to put out a positive review. Just wanted to give my 2¢ on this new blade and how I felt about it.
@@danejacksonkayak rad, much love 🙌