BEST TIE DOWN KNOT EVER. DON'T MISS THIS ONE !!!
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2019
- If you tie down long bars of material across your truck bed side walls, or other cargo that needs to stay together, this knot is absolutely perfect. NOTE: This hitch is intended to be the mid point wrap on a tie down secured at both ends of the strap. A single loose end is not advised. I have been told it's called a scaffold hitch. If you try it, you are going to like it. Take A Look !!
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There is too much chatter before getting to anything worthwhile (at 0:39), but when he finally gets down to business, the knot (it is actually a bind rather than a knot) and his demonstration are very good.
why not just use a "clove hitch" .. it is the almost same thing, easier to learn & does a better job ... instead of "making up a new type of knot" .. ( the clove hitch has been used iin trucking & transportaion since Cleopatra was ruling egypt ) ... & it has NEVER failed .
maybe use a ... "trucker's hitch" .. easy to tie, can tighten at any moment .. never comes loose .. & it is easy to un-tie.
Old days, this knot was used by sailors to make rope-wood ladders. I use it sometimes on my boat to fix oar or similar stuff. Greetings from Poland! Great channel!
Thanks for checking in from Poland. I'm pretty sure you are correct about the ladder fact.
Your knot is essentially a Marlin Spike Hitch. Very handy knot to know!
Here's my two bits: it's a great knot and I carry stuff in my truck. I use old rope and a truckers hitch but my trips are short and loads not large. So what if this hitch is already invented...Probably most guys don't know about it and if they were curious how to tie down a load better, wouldn't know where to look...I wouldn't. Good on you Joe!
I think that is the "Wife Knot", keeps you centered and pinned down!
Learn this same not back in 78 from some Mexican workers... They were from the country side and knew every knot possible!👍
👍I have never ever used a ratchet strap but I want to however they scare me & that’s how I ended up here. This video is fantastic! I appreciate you. Thank you sir 🙏 from all of us daddyless daughters out here. Daddy taught me a lot of stuff but he didn’t get around to teaching me about ratchet straps. RIP daddy. 🙏💝
When it comes to stuff like this, don't buy a $3 ratchet strap. Get one that looks like quality. You can usually tell by the ratchet end of the strap. Some are flimsy sheet metal and others are built for strength. Also be sure to anchor the crank end of the strap to the passenger side of your setup. If it needs to be tightened en route, you won't be standing in traffic doing it.
@@joepie221 - 👍Thank you. 💝
Thanks Joe. The last time I bought some 2x4s it took me about a half hour of trial and error before I remembered how to tie that knot. Learned it as a Boy Scout about 65 years ago. Works great. For the uninitiated, a ratchet gizmo with a hook goes on that loose end.
We use this when rigging loads with a crane in industrial plants, so the slings don't slip up when a load is applied. This is a choker hitch with a "bite" or "dead bite". When you pass the strap underneath itself, it creates the "bite", which tightens the strap on itself, thus securing the objects (especially round) much better so it won't slip. Very useful. Boilermakers Local 1 Chicago. ✌
Thanks for the enforcement.
Umnmm, I'm a flatbed driver and as long as you secure the other end (which you should always do) a simple cinch strap (over, under, and back over again) as demonstrated at the 1:50 mark; WILL NOT move, walk, etc. Try it.
My thoughts exactly. And depending on where your hooking your straps you should have no fwd, bwd movement either.
+1. Simple and solid. Never had a problem.
Looking forward to the rotary table set-up tips! Thanks for the cool knot tip!
This is VERY helpful! Just hauled a heavy 9x12 rug in my short bed F150. I did this on the front and back tie downs and it didn’t move at all (even at 75mph). Thanks for sharing.
I use this hitch exclusively. I love it.
Excellent for tying bundles as well. Thanks
I always say that if you had no prior knowledge its existence, and arrived at something that had been done before, you're no less an inventor than the guy taking credit for the earlier version! I wasn't around in the 1600's, and haven't taken any college classes on knot tying, so I'm no expert, but I think your knot kicks ass, and I intend to use it, a bunch! I'm even going to call it the "Pie Bight", in your honor!
Thank You!
Thanks for the comment. I agree about the inventor part. I was fairly proud of the performance of this one and use it a lot.
What ever its called i don't care... its an awesome solution to wandering 2x4s and/ or pipe! Thank you for sharing!!
I just used this knot a couple of days ago, to hold a step ladder and a few landscaping timbers down in my truck. It worked flawlessly and the load didn't shift one bit!! Thanks for sharing this with us!!
Glad you like it. I use it all the time.
I just do one lap around the cargo, been using it successfully for 35 years. The first ten years or so we even used rope, never had any appreciable movement of the cargo, and never once lost something off the truck or trailer. Although this similar method looks good, I think the only potential advantage would be less risk of the cargo moving left to right if it's tied down with less than optimal downward force. I always tie my one lap starting and ending the loop on top of the cargo, to maximize downward force and prevent the cargo from rolling naturally on the bed or tailgate. Anyway, thanks for a great video. I appreciate your advice and will give this method a go.
Nothing beats simple Joe :)
Yes please - rotary tips always good to hear.
It’s probably not in knot books, because it’s intended use is for cargo straps on pipe and logs. I have 18yrs in the utility industry. I know it as a CHILLZ KNOT. Some people might call it a modified scaffolding hitch or reef knot, if used with cord or rope. Caution , I have used it on thin wall and if you ratchet the working side to much , it can dent or crush thin wall aluminum.
Knowing where and how to use the right knot is very beneficial. But not as much a inspecting your gear and knowing the safe working limits.
What good does it do to tie the right one if your webbing or rope , equipment and gear are overloaded? Be safe thanks for the reminder
Joe - this hitch is fantastic. Just used it to secure a load of flat and bar stock. Never moved an inch. Would never have known this existed without ya. Thanks, mate!
I love this hitch. I use it on everything.
thanks for the heads up .. i'm always trying to find the best tie-down knot, now i got it .. it's videos like this that are moving people like me forward
Joe, you don't need to ask if we want to see another machining video.
We ALWAYS want to see another video. LOL.
It’s called a half-hitch knot. Been using it all my life to tie down cargo and pull wire thru conduit. Learned it in the Boy Scouts. Used it in the Army where you tie multiple half-hitches to what you want to secure. “If you can’t tie a knot, tie a lot (of these knots)”
it is a scaffold hitch
Hi Joe, I had to change out some argon bottles this morning and used your knot in the bed of my pickup. Worked like a champ. Thanks I really needed that.
It looks simple, but I would never have thought of that step of creating a loop over to the other side. Glad there are people like you who can figure these things out. Beautiful!
The official name of that Knot is the “Build something cool knot”😀
I would have thought that name was taken by now. Thanks for checking in Dale. Good to hear from you.
If you have a longish flat piece that may catch the wind it will vibrate like mad. It is best to put a twist in the flat section as a wind "vortex breaker" which will stop the flapping and noise.
I had the same problem joe, thanks for sharing it with us 👍🏼
I stumbled across this gem of a life hack about a month ago and I can say for certain I will use this method for the rest of my life and pass it on to my children. Thanks Joe
For what I use it for, it works very well.
Those that are critical that your video skills are a bit under Spielberg level...just can't please them I guess. I personally appreciate the INFO and will absolutely use this knot - perfect for a situation I'm often in. You rock, Joe!!! The superficial crybabies are unbelievable - lol
The truckers hitch. A great knot 👍🏽
Very clever and simple! Thanks for sharing!
great idea , i have tied stuff down like the first 2 parts of your knot , but never thought about the last loop . thanks for sharing
I don't know if anyone already told you that this did exist, but it can be found in Ashley's book of knots from the '40s, as knot number 2159, on page 348. No name is given, but the purpose listed in the book is to "sling a plank on edge", which it says was sometimes necessary in some sailing contexts. A lot of his sailing knots date at least back to the 18th century, but the description for this one doesn't say where he got it, so I'm not sure how old it is. It obviously works very well for this use also, and you should be proud to have come up with it.
I've seen it used to build rope and plank ladders too.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for sharing!
My mum taught me to tie my shoes when I was 3y.o. Since then I've used the same knot for everything, my shoes, my pyjamas, boats, anchors, stuff on the roof of the car. Sometimes it works ,but not always as I'd like .......... my pyjamas still fall down, stuff blows off the roof of the car and the dog often escapes. I now see the virtue in using the right tool for the job at hand.
Thanks again mate!,,
Steve Callachor
My dad discovered this years ago and showed me when we were moving a mattress. It is really an excellent principle to keep in mind, especially if you use a truckers hitch for the final tie off. You have to be careful when passing the rope around. This is why I like to use a rope bag. You pass the rope bag around and under as an organized bundle while the rope pays out as you go!
Also make that final trucker's hitch an auto-locking trucker's hitch; those are amazing.
Hi (from Aus') Joe and thanks for the many and informative tips on machining you have done. Has rekindled my interest in the machining I learned 56 years ago before I took up using pencils, ink and setsquares (then CAD) to have things made by others ;-)
I saw your tie-down method when posted but have just got round to re-visiting to have an intended closer look. Am interested in many of the comments and most in naming knots are not correct when applied to that which you have done. I like what you have done and it is a great method to use when using strapping. But it also a good when used with rope. That said, this is my reply to Captain Chaos' comment your 'knot/hitch' is a clove hitch - "I believe Captain Chaos is very close to the mark. Joe's great tie-down method is a clove hitch which you might say is 'not dressed'. If you tie Joe's hitch (on a single cylindrical object for ease of proof) then bring the working and standing ends together the two bights will collapse and the resultant knot is a clove hitch - nothing like a scaffold hitch, barrel hitch etc.. Conversely, if you tie a clove hitch (loosely) then twist the diagonal cross-over, two bights can be formed and you will now have Joe's great hitch. The later trick, and Joe's method, are both worth remembering and or teaching others."
Joe you method (Zynski Hitch got a ring to it has it not?) is great for grouping/racking tubular, square/rect' shapes and is much better than any other alternative I have seen suggested in the comments. Stick with it and Thank you. PaulW
Love this hitch. I've always called it a choke. Either over choke or under choke. Never seen it as a double choke though. Fantastic! Definitely going to use this today.
Also, try using steel rings at your loops. Works a treat. Thanks for the tip.
Can it be used on a four posts bed, or do I need to modify. Asking for a friend.
I used it to secure baseboards in my truck the other day. Very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to share.
Joe - congratulations you just self discovered the scaffold hitch.
Wow you're so smart I wish I could be just like you
@@hotvodka7641 He is right. You should wish to be smart like him.
Joe, it seems you're going to have to redo this video, because the amount of idiots who can not figure out by just looking at the video that you use the loose end to ratchet it down is amazing.
Forget about the fact that it's written as well.
That's why we need nut allergen warnings on packets of peanuts.
If you don't know that the other end goes into the strap ratchet, you don't belong securing anything.....LOL!
It would be so helpful if they just read the description.
I think those are the ones whose mom DID let them play with plastic bags. :-)
Joe, I've been using the first part of that hitch for years. I always put the crossover on the top of the load, that is, go under the load, back across the top and then loop around the bight and put the tail through the ratchet. I've never seen a need for the second loop but I may start to add it, just so I can say "Joe Pi taught me!"
+1 on the RoTab vid. One can never have too many 'Go-By' videos to reference for setup and operation.
I was just playing around with this knot on my camping chair armrest when I had a discovery.
This knot is a double half hitch with the two ends pulled in their opposite directions.
It could be an easier way to remember it.
After you tie it a few times, its easy to remember.
Actually in Canada that is called a B .C. hitch. I live in eastern Canada, I used to work on a salmon farm. We used to get supplies from British Columbia, and that was the knot that they used.
Excellent, thank you. This is extremely useful.
Thanks for the info Joe. Always great ideas and videos. Will be watching for the rotary table vid. See you then brother.
One thing that has never failed me. If u can’t tie knots, tie lots
This is me especially the last part lol
Be sure that you D-rate the strap 30% any time you put a not or a hitch in it. So a 1500kg rated stap is after a hitch or knot D-rated to 1000kg.
Also same for any hard eges that also require packing ie a piece of rubber or some form of sleave over the strap. Some situations may need futher D-rating including well used straps or older straps. Throw out sun damaged staps and any that have been cut or damaged via chemicals etc.
Thank you! A guy rented my toy hauler and tied down his Can Am with some lightweight straps the dealer sold him. I told him no bueno. When he returned the machine had gotten loose and damaged his new toy and my toy-hauler. They don't think about the forces of the 1500 lb machine pulling on those straps when you hit the brakes or get in an accident. Spend the money!
just in case those cardboard tubes break loose!
I really love this. It can be adapted to create a doubled-up backhand hitch, or a doubled up munter hitch. Two thumbs up.
That's pretty slick. I'll try to remember that. Being an old boy scout, I prefer to use rope rather than straps, but I think this would work just as well with rope. TIP: Putting a twist in your straps will prevent buzzing and vibration caused by the wind as you drive down the road.
What keeps the load from sliding to the left?
I believe he was just showing how to secure them from moving apart from one another. If he was to have more line on what he was showing to pull it on further to either a hook or eye, he could have synched it down further with a truckers hitch and it would not move any direction.
Rotary table videos would be great Joe, I'm sure you have some cool tricks.
Cant wait for the setup videos with the rotary on the mill! will also be using that knot when picking up material!
Modified timber hitch... single versions worked well for attaching reefing lines to the boom on a sailboat.
Got a couple of 2x8x10 footers a while back and used this knot, the boards were locked down tighter than a snakes asshole.
Reading some of the comments saying how over complicated this is baffles me.. Hell tying your shoes takes is more of a process than this but people still bitch and moan.
This is pretty simple to replicate to be honest...
Tryed this one. like it. After an hour it occored to me that it you tie a clovehitch and reverse the direction of both pulling strands you end up with this knot.
question is : does it keep things in place better than a clove hitch in its more usual configuration ?
I always knew the clove hitch as an end of the line hitch. For tent lines and tying horses and row boats off. Not for mid use.
Just used it today. Thank you 🤙🏼
Great tip, thank you! Don't let the negative comments get to you. We all know those are the people using a single piece of twine to tie drywall down to the roof of their car......
It's a cool looking wrap and Im sure it works just fine for light duty cardboard tubes and the usual keep it under 90mph kinda stuff etc.. The weak spot(s) are in the two bends of the strap on both sides of the wraps, that's where it'll break on you. That situation I wrap with a clove, won't move left/right or fore/aft and the pressure/stress on the rope remains even.. When you wanna hoist a pipe vertically, you use a clove. Less wraps, stronger and it holds onto anything.
This hitch works like a charm on heavy steel bars regularly. Keeps everything cinched together and centered. The tubes were just for the example.
Choke knot used to do these for plastic pipes on a truck
Looks like a good knot for the application. I always use a clove hitch, which does about the same thing, but uses less rope. Ill give the scaffold hitch a try next time and see how it compares. Thanks Joe.
Nice! I’m adding this to my day to day. Thank you
For those who cannot think this through: You'll notice he's using a ratchet strap. Attaching what you see into the video to the other part of the ratchet strap is what will the load shifting to the left.
Great video and well explained. Now to read the "instant expert" opinions in the comments.
Nice knot!
As a truck driver in the oilfield in Alaska, (along with being a former boy scout and commercial fisherman, very fond of knots) we used the “gut wrap” method (always wrapping the strap over the load, and around it once, then ratcheting to the other side). This made me always think “over” was the best/only way to keep the load from rolling. In reality, at least in my experience with rope tie-downs, it doesn’t always prevent the load from moving.
I haven’t tried it yet, but I do believe your either/or method using the extra loop, will work fine...and help me overcome a mental stigma of “over” being the only way! Haha!
Thanks for teaching this old dog a new trick!
Hadnt thought of this one, cant wait to try for myself.
What knot to like?
Nice one. Take the day off. You earned it.
Opposing larks heads. Good thinking.
Dad taught me this more than 60 years ago. Great little video. Short. Too the point. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
straight to the point! thanks!
Should definitely try a clove hitch instead...bit faster but same usage
Won't it still slide back to the left?
any tie down will slide if you don't finish it.
Thank you, this is how I have done my for years. some of the ways I see people tie things(or not tie) is unbelievable.
This video is getting a lot of attention recently. Can I ask you if you saw it recommended somewhere?
Excellent! Thank you I will use this!!!
My husband said that he could secure that load with less strapping and probably stronger by trying a simple clove hitch with the legs on top. With this knot, you can secure your load off center without any movement. Try it, you’ll use less rope/strap to secure the load.
I may be wrong, but I was always under the impression a clove hitch is a termination knot. Like something you'd tie a horse to a rail with, or a rowboat to a post. I'm not sure If a clove hitch is intended to be used between 2 points.
"My husband said that he could......."
That's great, but how can you recommend something based on hearsay? Let us know when you try it yourself.
@@joepie221 You are correct. And a clove hitch would tend to want to spin your load when pulling from both ends of the line . Not a good choice.
When I said, “ My husband”, it was actually me; the husband. To secure a load as shown you would secure one end of your road/strap, tie your clove hitch around your load, then secure the other end with any number of knots. I would recommend a trucker’s knot. My wife wasn’t a boy scout.
As a sailor, eagle scout, and mountaineer, it is not often I learn a new knot. I dig this.
Great hitch. Round loads are a pain in the butt to keep solid.
Used it today to secure a couple of 60 litre fuel drums. notoriously hard to keep in 1 place on a steel deck . They never moved more than a couple of millimetres.
It provides a solid grip in both directions.
Thanks Joe, yes I'll be looking forward to some rotab action
It’s not so much a knot as it is applying a “bight” to your securing method. But your correct it’s a tight secure method. Thanks for sharing. Good job!
My knot terminology is limited, but It is intended to be used on a full secure tie down. The loop in the middle is very effective.
I have never seen that before.great idea.
Good idea, thanks for sharing.
Tried it and it works very well.
Nice lashing trick. If your using a rope for this one Finish the working end with a wagoneers or truckers hitch.
That would do it.
It's still not secure. Am I missing something here?
Yes. read the video description.
Nice. Thanks! I'll start doing it this way.
You rock totally - thx for posting .
Your hitch seems so close to an alpine butterfly loop with the posts being the loop of the knot. You would just need to turn your bight towards you and fish the tag through the eye, away from you, between the first turn around the left working end and the posts before feeding it through the bight. That probably does not make sense, but hey, no sense in changing something that is working!
Sorry lad its been around a bit im a lorry driver and we know it as a barrel hitch, but fear play for sharing as its a good tie down👍
We used to use a wider similar version to pull long thin items up on roofs. It will not let anything slip out if it is done properly.
It's new to me and I thank you for that. I actually think I can remember this one too!
I'm a frayed not.
knot
Called a choker here in nz
nice knot. I have been using the double constrictor knot to bind objects together.
Great hitch, thank you for sharing.
It a Half Marlin Spike Hitch.
You totally invented a new and very useful knot! Nevermind that others knew it - you didn't - you still invented a cool knot. Kudos! :)
Hey, I needed that. Thanks!