Reactions to Walter's speech: * Skyler - seriously broken that her husband decided to give up the fight; * Marie - seriously proud she was listened to and Walter decided to do as she suggested; * Hank - seriously wondering what they are talking about and if his baseball analogy was off the mark; * Walter Jr. - seriously wondering when it is time for breakfast.
He is like kaido, kuzan and crocodile from one piece, madara from naruto. Initially idealistic about life but later lost hope due to setbacks. They have too much pride.
Ironic of how his fear of becoming an "artificially alive dead-man" came true when he chose to become Heisenberg. Living in that cabin in the mountains away from his own bed, not being able to enjoy a meal, all his friends and family having a negative view of him, Skyler cleaning up after his crimes got exposed, just marking time. His last few months became what he feared the most
i really starting to hate you clowns trying to make any phrase deep when its not and the association is offcourse We all know what he ment, and NO its not the same as "be friendless" as he was planning revenge, does a artifical alive human too sick to move plan revenge? stfu
@@Luke_SkywaIker he more salvaged what was left than got what he wanted I dont think he wanted to be reviled by his family and the world and to die alone and unloved
Walters speech is very important with the context of what we know of his father. His father died a shriveled up man who was considered a burden upon his family. Unable to talk, eat, use the restroom without help. Walter had to live with that in mind for his entire life, and was afraid that he’ll sooner or later become that. This is the main reason why he chose to be Heisenberg. Yes he did it for himself and he liked it, but deep down he was afraid of becoming that and sadly he became worse than his father. He became Heisenberg.
In a way, the entire show is a twisted Monkey's Paw tale. Walt gripped the Monkey's Paw and asked 'Please, don't let me family remember me as a sick, barely alive dying man - like I remember my father being.' And the Monkey's Paw twitches, granting him his wish. 'They're going to remember him as a dangerous, murderous drug lord that ruined their family and the entire southwest.'
Fun fact: They actually brought a pillow on set for this scene! The dedication of the actors is to actually hold the pillow is simply insane. Bravo, Vince!
@@StereoCoda I believe that the head of effects was in an interview and said the pillow was edited post filming to make it seem more pillow-like. I think considering this is season 1 (2008) the effects make the pillow look like it clipped. This is just another form of dedication from the team of this show. Bravo, talking pillow!
He's describing almost exactly what my mom went through. She had been successfully fighting it for 7 years, though, until she did a chemo trial this March and passed away July 9th. The chemo did work until it didn't. And those last 4 months were devastating for her. She couldn't talk, eat, walk, or give anyone a hug right up to the bitter end. R.i.p mama.
Rewatching this has helped me process losing mum. We watched BB together but I don’t remember a whole lot. Last year she developed late stage COPD and I cared for her at home. She was reluctant to take the steroids and antibiotics and it was a difficult thing for me to negotiate. But just a couple of days before she passed, she was dancing in her seat to Oasis. And I was by her side until the moment she passed, but that moment feels like my true last memory of her.
I know everyone throws hate to Skyler in this scene. But this is such a natural reaction... She is screaming for help because she doesnt want Walt to die. She was desperate
Yeah people are too harsh on her character. I get why some people were put off by her the beginning but even here I completely understand where she’s coming from. She just doesn’t want to lose her husband. She’s also thinking about her kids having to grow up without their father.
Skyler makes it a point to set up these rules about the talking pillow and enforces them, then immediately breaks them once the conversation grows outside her control.
I don’t agree with her methods here and I get why people were put off by her in this scene but her heart is in the right place. She doesn’t want her husband to die and she’s desperately trying to convince him to fight even if it was a losing battle.
1:27 that’s because Walt sucks at making decisions and he knew it deep down. He wanted die, but he wouldn’t kill himself. He would go out providing for his family like a real man. This is the story of a tragic waste of a genius
I had an older relative who got cancer, and he was undergoing the very deterioration to which Walt is referring. And I believe he felt the same way. He and his wife lived on the third or fourth floor of an apartment building, and as they were leaving one day, he sent her on ahead as he had 'forgotten' something. The next time she saw him, he was laying outside on the grounds of the building. I don't know his reasons, and nobody ever will. But I suspect he wanted to spare his long-time wife from the burden of caring for an increasingly helpless invalid husband. And, knowing him, I'd wager it also had something to do with self-respect. I've always admired him for ending things on HIS terms -- or, at least, the best option he had, given his circumstances.
Bryan’s acting is so good in this scene. You can tell that Walt is conflicted and upset about how his family feels. Also everything would have been avoided if Skylar listened to Walt
And that's why he becomes Heisenberg. He put his foot down about his last choice he had to make and still conceded to someone else's wishes instead of his own just a few hours after declaring this was the one choice he was making for himself. In his mind he basically said "Fine, I'll do the Chemo, and that's the last thing I'll ever do because someone else wants me to." And Heisenberg is born the very next episode. The writing in this show is truly unbeatable
I will say. The BB fanbase often makes such a mockery of Skyler, when most of the time her own feelings are justified and believable. But this is one case for sure where Skyler is a total bitch, forcing Marie and Hank to take her side and offering Walt 0 free will in the situation.
Ah yes, what a total bitch not wanting her husband to die when FREE cancer treatment arrived on their doorstep yet he mysteriously refuses to take it. If you had the _slightest_ chance to save your loved one's life from a terminal diagnosis, would you not be desperate to take it? It's a morally complex situation, far more nuanced than you're giving it credit. Yes, it is "selfish" of Skyler to be dismissive of Walt's feelings, but this isn't a discussion anyone would wish for...is it wrong to be selfish of your partner's life? To want your children to grow up with a father? Skyler's perspective is equally as justified as Walt's in this situation.
@@Luke_SkywaIker You are missing the point. Walt knows that no procedure will cure his cancer. Also understand that if he choose to do it, he could live longer but at a cost of being artificially pushed to be alive which will be pure pain and suffering while his familly watches him decaying. He doesn't want that and expresses it to his familly that it his choice. However, Skyler does not listen to walts dying wish as it goes againts her desire. So she emotionally manipulates him into doing it which works because walt is sympathetic towards skyler. And that's a recurring problem about skyler. She emotionally manipulates people into being sympathetic towards her so that they can do her bidding. This was a character arc left unfinished because the writers at season 5 wanted the viewers to be sympathetic towards her while also makes us forget all the bad to horrible things she has done. This why people do not like her.
The thing is, I kind of liked that they made her flaw very apparent here but with that there's also her attachment to Walt. As she ends up revealing herself, she never wanted a discussion but it also shows that she still can't accept even the possibility of losing her husband.
callig her a bitch is too far imo, she is for sure in the wrong to disregard walt's choice, but u can't really blame her for wanting to force him to try to stay alive. they are family, and she is pregnant and thinking about the baby as well.
I'm curious if the writers interviewed real cancer patients when crafting Walt's speech because everything he said I could believe someone in his situation would say. Heck it gave me a moment of pause to ask myself if god forbid I was ever diagnosed, what would I choose to do? Live a shorter time but still be able bodied through most of it, or live a little longer only constantly sick and weak with a small chance of maybe recovering.
This episode was actually set up to launch a spin-off series called "The Talking Pillow." The idea was the audience would follow the pillow week-to-week as it traveled from intervention to intervention. An anthology series. Gilligan was exec producing it, but it was going to be a Peter Gould project moving forward. They had several episodes scripted and cast before AMC pulled the plug on the show. I think it could have been interesting. Reportedly, they had Meryl Streep, Cate Blanchett, Brian Cox, Ian McKelland, and a slew of other top-notch actors lined up for the show. I really would have liked to have seen it.
When is the next wave of breaking bad youtooz figures? We need a Salamanca wave with the cousins as a 2 pack, tuco with bloody face holding his rifle up in the air with his right arm and of course lalo… So Lionel, Marco, Tuco and Lalo Also maybe a wave after that with Walter white in underwear and green shirt with gun like in the season 1 poster, Jesse wearing s1 beanie hat and clothes, gus fring with yellow shirt holding pollos hermanos chicken bucket and finally either kuby or badger (possibly with his advertisement costume) or Jack. Choice is up to youtooz I’d pick Jack considering his importance near the end of the show but then again badger in that costume would look sick! So pilot Walter, pilot Jesse, pollos gus and one of the options If anyone sees this lmk ur guys opinions on these ideas
This is probably one of THE most hated skyler moments of her being the worst character cause I hate this scene of skyler as she has everyone say an honest opinion but when she hears an answer she doesn't like she flips out on what Marie said one of the most hated moments for me on skyler
I really appreciate Skyler for standing up to for her husband, like that, I wish I had a woman like that, that DID NOT want me to die… Skyler is a very beautiful woman, I don’t care what y’all say.
Reactions to Walter's speech:
* Skyler - seriously broken that her husband decided to give up the fight;
* Marie - seriously proud she was listened to and Walter decided to do as she suggested;
* Hank - seriously wondering what they are talking about and if his baseball analogy was off the mark;
* Walter Jr. - seriously wondering when it is time for breakfast.
This is why Walter became a drug lord. He wanted to choose to do what he wanted, be free of he's supposed to do instead of what he wished
He is like kaido, kuzan and crocodile from one piece, madara from naruto. Initially idealistic about life but later lost hope due to setbacks. They have too much pride.
He did it for him
@@pierren___ He liked it
He was good at it
Ironic of how his fear of becoming an "artificially alive dead-man" came true when he chose to become Heisenberg. Living in that cabin in the mountains away from his own bed, not being able to enjoy a meal, all his friends and family having a negative view of him, Skyler cleaning up after his crimes got exposed, just marking time. His last few months became what he feared the most
And yet, he still got what he wanted. He died on his on terms surrounded by the "family" he loved the most.
@@Luke_SkywaIker
Who? The dead nazis?
i really starting to hate you clowns trying to make any phrase deep when its not and the association is offcourse
We all know what he ment, and NO its not the same as "be friendless" as he was planning revenge, does a artifical alive human too sick to move plan revenge?
stfu
@@Luke_SkywaIker he more salvaged what was left than got what he wanted I dont think he wanted to be reviled by his family and the world and to die alone and unloved
I choose to believe he was lying here. He just wanted to break bad, make money, and check out
I am not the talking pillow Skyler,i am the one who talks with the pillow
That pillow needs its own spin off
Someone takes the pillow and gets to talk and you think that of me?? No.
@@jeepercreep12Better Talk Pillow
@@jeepercreep12Don't talk without me
@@Mrevans124 shush! It's not your turn to talk
Walters speech is very important with the context of what we know of his father.
His father died a shriveled up man who was considered a burden upon his family. Unable to talk, eat, use the restroom without help.
Walter had to live with that in mind for his entire life, and was afraid that he’ll sooner or later become that. This is the main reason why he chose to be Heisenberg. Yes he did it for himself and he liked it, but deep down he was afraid of becoming that and sadly he became worse than his father.
He became Heisenberg.
In a way, the entire show is a twisted Monkey's Paw tale. Walt gripped the Monkey's Paw and asked 'Please, don't let me family remember me as a sick, barely alive dying man - like I remember my father being.' And the Monkey's Paw twitches, granting him his wish.
'They're going to remember him as a dangerous, murderous drug lord that ruined their family and the entire southwest.'
Bravo Vince
Didn't Walt's father leave?
Yeah but how much of his motivation was due to his not wanting to accept help from his ex- Grey matter partner--e.g. pride?
@@alonnie1919 No, he died of Huntington's Disease when Walt was 6, as described in 4x10: "Salud"
If I had a nickel for every time marie told walt to die, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
lol
The funny thing is that the second time she was actually right. Once Walt was dead, a lot of problems suddenly solved themselves.
Skylar told him like 4 times
You stole that line from another UA-cam channel
Isn't that a Simpsons reference?
I just have to say, Anna Gunn is a fantastic actress. She perfectly captured the frustration, anger and sadness.
Fun fact: They actually brought a pillow on set for this scene! The dedication of the actors is to actually hold the pillow is simply insane. Bravo, Vince!
No way, I thought the pillow was teleported or was CG, Thanks for the facts, I had no idea.
@@nexushexus4365 yeah cgi these days is so advanced it’s very hard to tell!
@@SlurpfishplugNot really sure about that one, you can kind of see the pillow clip through Marie’s arm at one point. Very likely CGI
@@StereoCoda I believe that the head of effects was in an interview and said the pillow was edited post filming to make it seem more pillow-like. I think considering this is season 1 (2008) the effects make the pillow look like it clipped. This is just another form of dedication from the team of this show. Bravo, talking pillow!
Bravo talking pillow? You mean bravo Vince. It was his idea. Give him some credit ffs@@Slurpfishplug
He's describing almost exactly what my mom went through. She had been successfully fighting it for 7 years, though, until she did a chemo trial this March and passed away July 9th. The chemo did work until it didn't. And those last 4 months were devastating for her. She couldn't talk, eat, walk, or give anyone a hug right up to the bitter end. R.i.p mama.
Sorry for your loss. Sounds terrible.
Sorry man
My condolences 💐
Don't forget that Walt has already strangled a man in as basement by this scene
He wanted to set that man free, but that man would have killed him.
Walter seems like a good loving man and father: I am sure he will never do his family or anyone harm.
what a standup guy
As someone who watched his father die of lung cancer, he has a point
I’m sorry to hear about your father. Please take care of yourself, and have a good life.
I suppose your father did not break bad...
Ik im prob in no position to ask, but did he choose to not go thru chemo?
@@aljek My father? Yes
@@AmTrFilms oh wow ok. My condolences. whether if he would’ve chose to go thru it or not, he went out like a man. Take care
That whistle was epic
the whistle, talking pillow, Walter Jr.. bRiLliaNt writing
this is so stupid
The Iconic Dad Whistle
Rewatching this has helped me process losing mum. We watched BB together but I don’t remember a whole lot. Last year she developed late stage COPD and I cared for her at home. She was reluctant to take the steroids and antibiotics and it was a difficult thing for me to negotiate. But just a couple of days before she passed, she was dancing in her seat to Oasis. And I was by her side until the moment she passed, but that moment feels like my true last memory of her.
❤
Ummmm…..I have a question, Does the talking pillow ever uhhhhh…..you know, ummmmm…..talk?
Bro 😭🙏
watched the whole show just to be disappointed...
It used to
Why does it sound like an actual question that Jesse would ask 😭😭
Walt : I am the one who talks
Best show of all time
0:31 - Me during my parents divorce.
Someone holds the pillow and gets to talk and you think of me?
No. I am the ONE WHO TALKS.
I know everyone throws hate to Skyler in this scene.
But this is such a natural reaction...
She is screaming for help because she doesnt want Walt to die. She was desperate
No. That's not how all wives ask for help.
Some women do indeed respect their husband
@@srivastavashivam949 I am speaking about this scene.
Not cheating with Ted. We are far away from that in the BB timeline
Yeah people are too harsh on her character. I get why some people were put off by her the beginning but even here I completely understand where she’s coming from.
She just doesn’t want to lose her husband. She’s also thinking about her kids having to grow up without their father.
@@ilikecats9886yeah, because women can’t do anything by themselves.
@@dantalv6973 0/10 ragebait.
Skyler makes it a point to set up these rules about the talking pillow and enforces them, then immediately breaks them once the conversation grows outside her control.
Thats like all women
She was so annoying season 1
@@moviesynopsis001 You're quick to generalise women as if statistics don't say that most (like, *most* most) school shooters are men.
@@moviesynopsis001yup
I don’t agree with her methods here and I get why people were put off by her in this scene but her heart is in the right place.
She doesn’t want her husband to die and she’s desperately trying to convince him to fight even if it was a losing battle.
Walter: "I don't want to lose my hair"
Vince: "Yeah, about that..."
He went from not wanting to lose his hair, to having no hair until the last couple of episodes lol
I love this scene. Every single character has a solid argument
Walt only wanted to cook.
Best Show in TV history 📺
why does part 1 and 2 have a 2 minute gap between them?
we need part 1.5
they cut out best part, Marie en Skylar discussing
Skylar edited it out so people wouldn’t agree with Marie’s point
1:27 that’s because Walt sucks at making decisions and he knew it deep down. He wanted die, but he wouldn’t kill himself. He would go out providing for his family like a real man. This is the story of a tragic waste of a genius
Just like Hal
He became the drug kingpin because it made him feel alive. What an incredible character arc.
this is the exact moment the pillow became el pollo 🐥
Such an authentic scene. A family dialogue, full of emotions. And a monologue of Walter that reflects what is like living with a dis-ease.
So good the acting. 2:27
I had an older relative who got cancer, and he was undergoing the very deterioration to which Walt is referring. And I believe he felt the same way.
He and his wife lived on the third or fourth floor of an apartment building, and as they were leaving one day, he sent her on ahead as he had 'forgotten' something. The next time she saw him, he was laying outside on the grounds of the building.
I don't know his reasons, and nobody ever will. But I suspect he wanted to spare his long-time wife from the burden of caring for an increasingly helpless invalid husband. And, knowing him, I'd wager it also had something to do with self-respect. I've always admired him for ending things on HIS terms -- or, at least, the best option he had, given his circumstances.
This scene was the exact moment i fell in love with the show. What'd i would give to watch it all over again for the first time
"this is so stupid" delivered so good lol
There was nothing we could do, the Talking Pillow was made man and Walter wasn't
This is the moment where Walt has the talking pillow now.
Hank and Marie look like they're about to burst into tears
Bryan’s acting is so good in this scene. You can tell that Walt is conflicted and upset about how his family feels. Also everything would have been avoided if Skylar listened to Walt
For a man with a 4th stage lung cancer, that's pretty powerful whistle !
Marie makes the scene with her reactions to Walt's speech
0:38 this small fraction of time is the time when Heisenberg was born.
This is the first of three moments that Walt was honest with his family.
the scene right after this one: _”nvm Skyler, I’ll do it”_
And that's why he becomes Heisenberg. He put his foot down about his last choice he had to make and still conceded to someone else's wishes instead of his own just a few hours after declaring this was the one choice he was making for himself. In his mind he basically said "Fine, I'll do the Chemo, and that's the last thing I'll ever do because someone else wants me to." And Heisenberg is born the very next episode. The writing in this show is truly unbeatable
Hearing him say ive got the talking pillow so seriously made me laugh
0:38 - You can actually pinpoint the moment Walt became Pillowberg
What Walt said here is
I am the one who talks…
This is the moment Walt became the talking pillow.
😖
pride, one of the seven sins, and walt took it with its full capacity
S1 had such a different vibe, it is so sad to see how the familial relations degraded so much
I will say. The BB fanbase often makes such a mockery of Skyler, when most of the time her own feelings are justified and believable. But this is one case for sure where Skyler is a total bitch, forcing Marie and Hank to take her side and offering Walt 0 free will in the situation.
Ah yes, what a total bitch not wanting her husband to die when FREE cancer treatment arrived on their doorstep yet he mysteriously refuses to take it. If you had the _slightest_ chance to save your loved one's life from a terminal diagnosis, would you not be desperate to take it?
It's a morally complex situation, far more nuanced than you're giving it credit. Yes, it is "selfish" of Skyler to be dismissive of Walt's feelings, but this isn't a discussion anyone would wish for...is it wrong to be selfish of your partner's life? To want your children to grow up with a father?
Skyler's perspective is equally as justified as Walt's in this situation.
@@Luke_SkywaIker You are missing the point. Walt knows that no procedure will cure his cancer. Also understand that if he choose to do it, he could live longer but at a cost of being artificially pushed to be alive which will be pure pain and suffering while his familly watches him decaying. He doesn't want that and expresses it to his familly that it his choice. However, Skyler does not listen to walts dying wish as it goes againts her desire. So she emotionally manipulates him into doing it which works because walt is sympathetic towards skyler. And that's a recurring problem about skyler. She emotionally manipulates people into being sympathetic towards her so that they can do her bidding. This was a character arc left unfinished because the writers at season 5 wanted the viewers to be sympathetic towards her while also makes us forget all the bad to horrible things she has done. This why people do not like her.
The thing is, I kind of liked that they made her flaw very apparent here but with that there's also her attachment to Walt. As she ends up revealing herself, she never wanted a discussion but it also shows that she still can't accept even the possibility of losing her husband.
@@LordFindogask734 Thank God someone possesses media literacy here! Finally someone who understands the complexity of the scene 😂
callig her a bitch is too far imo, she is for sure in the wrong to disregard walt's choice, but u can't really blame her for wanting to force him to try to stay alive. they are family, and she is pregnant and thinking about the baby as well.
Never noticed the clock tick in the background, awesome touch
Me neither. Nice find
This is the moment Walter is cancer
I’m the pillow that talks
This is the moment Heisenberg took the talking pillow.
Love that Marie is the only one who gets what Walt is saying
Pretty ironic if you think about it lol
That is not how they remembered him.
This is the moment Walt becomes the one with the talking pillow
One of the only times where Marie was the voice of reason.
and this is the exact moment when Walter White did in fact have the talking pillow
this really is the culimination of breaking bad really
Am I the only one who finds Junior's comment right before his speech hilarious? "This is so stupid..." 🤣
There should be a video where the pillow talks in this scene
so crazy that at the end of all of this hes dead in a methlab with police around him
Still went better than the Sopranos' intervention.
Marie and Walt Jr clearly have a lot in common
I'm curious if the writers interviewed real cancer patients when crafting Walt's speech because everything he said I could believe someone in his situation would say. Heck it gave me a moment of pause to ask myself if god forbid I was ever diagnosed, what would I choose to do? Live a shorter time but still be able bodied through most of it, or live a little longer only constantly sick and weak with a small chance of maybe recovering.
Look at me. I have the talking pillow now.
Mineral hollyberg bravo vince pillow knocking was the real danger give me likes
Be remembered as a zombie ❌
Be remembered as a criminal ✅
Marie and Skyler are insufferable
Oh Walt, please live.. don't die we love you. A few years later, why don't you die already!!!
This time Hank become so silent and serious 😅
This is not a talking pillow. This is a plushie. Throws it to the ground*
0:01 damn, Hank is so coldhearted… I would never say that to my brother-in-law… what a POS..
That's the exact moment that pillow became Walter's talking pillow!
This episode was actually set up to launch a spin-off series called "The Talking Pillow." The idea was the audience would follow the pillow week-to-week as it traveled from intervention to intervention. An anthology series. Gilligan was exec producing it, but it was going to be a Peter Gould project moving forward. They had several episodes scripted and cast before AMC pulled the plug on the show. I think it could have been interesting. Reportedly, they had Meryl Streep, Cate Blanchett, Brian Cox, Ian McKelland, and a slew of other top-notch actors lined up for the show. I really would have liked to have seen it.
I choose not to live, but for a barrel of Methlyaine, I am willing to live longer. 😂
This is the exact moment Walt became White
If it was me it would be very embarrassing (I don't know how to whistle)
I am the one who has the talking pillow
Skyler was so insufferable in this scene. Marie was the only other one who was right besides Walt.
When is the next wave of breaking bad youtooz figures? We need a Salamanca wave with the cousins as a 2 pack, tuco with bloody face holding his rifle up in the air with his right arm and of course lalo…
So Lionel, Marco, Tuco and Lalo
Also maybe a wave after that with Walter white in underwear and green shirt with gun like in the season 1 poster, Jesse wearing s1 beanie hat and clothes, gus fring with yellow shirt holding pollos hermanos chicken bucket and finally either kuby or badger (possibly with his advertisement costume) or Jack. Choice is up to youtooz I’d pick Jack considering his importance near the end of the show but then again badger in that costume would look sick!
So pilot Walter, pilot Jesse, pollos gus and one of the options
If anyone sees this lmk ur guys opinions on these ideas
How could you not want a Hector one?
@@rafetaylor6948 i actually own it. It was 2nd figure I ever got
Why does Walter look like a cosplay of Ned Flanders in this scene? lol
This is probably one of THE most hated skyler moments of her being the worst character cause I hate this scene of skyler as she has everyone say an honest opinion but when she hears an answer she doesn't like she flips out on what Marie said one of the most hated moments for me on skyler
Are u guys sure marie wasnt walter jrs mom
Walter White?
Ha ha you got me
the what i want line was straight copied from the godfather. shame
I am the one who talks
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I hate these two women so much in this show. I guess that's effective acting.
"what does that even mean": asked the controlling women calmly.
The talking pillow is dumb
susie wussy sinse 10 years
I really appreciate Skyler for standing up to for her husband, like that, I wish I had a woman like that, that DID NOT want me to die… Skyler is a very beautiful woman, I don’t care what y’all say.
this was the moment walter had the talking pillow