Output's A.I. Sampler "Co-Producer" is FREE: Is it Any Good?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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I've been finding the simpler you keep your prompts the better the results.
I tried it out, I think it's best for single instrument loops. It spit out some pretty dope Neo-soul piano loops for me. The last beat I uploaded to my shorts was made using it.
Word! I’m about to check it out. Maybe it’ll change my mind.
Its dope, but you have to be creative. Its def not gonna give you stuff thats already a completed work, which is good IMO. You have to "flip" them just like you would a traditional sample. Some of the demos arent great but the sounds in the packs once you download it can be flipped if you are creative. But for just raw material to help make beats with, some ideas, and some textures, its definitely a nice lil tool.
True!
It seems the trick is to download the packs. Even if the whole track sounds like ship, one of the stems might be useful.
AI out here struggling 😂 you da man BOLO! 💪🙏
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Until i watched this video of yours i didnt realize how old school you are lol all the joints you generated were not bad. Plus you know theres a difference between trap and hip hop trap
LMAO, that was hilarious! "Nope!" ... "Naaaahhhh......"
I just went to try this out and I will say this 1. I put in “70s soul sample, no drums, Somber” and put in what key I wanted it in..it gave some good results 2. I believe musicians prerecorded stuff and tagged it so we find what we find 3. The cool thing is when you download the “pack” it gives you a stemmed out version…a mix version, and also gives you a “sample pack” of a bunch of instrument loops/one shots .. which is cool… so you can isolate instruments or use the whole thing as it is…
Long story short.. would i use this? I will probably make a few beats with this today… then after that, once in a while I may pop in and see what it generates, if I get in beat block.. which I don’t get that much.. but I think to breed inspiration, it’s a good tool
I used it a bit, its good for producer block or finding a counter melody IMO.
Although it sounds like trash in the beginning, when you download it, it breaks the stems down so you can chop the samples up
I used the piano loop from the 2nd pack couple years ago on a beat I made!! 😅 lol
It’s pretty dope I’ve been using it for the past 3 months before they ever announced it, got some nice packs already but this beta version is better than the first beta one. You have to be really descriptive but simple if that make any sense when giving it prompts.
I would use it for chords and top line
bom when maybe it's expecting bpm, might be the issue.
Loop at 9:45 is Aboogie Ft Kodak black drowning song melody 🤔🤔🤔 how did that get in there 😅😅
My prompts have created some crazy dope stuff that can be used for some different type of beats.
Prompting is where it’s at with a 1000 character limit.
I just wonder what the price will eventually be
That 4th pack you clicked on was kind of nice. All of those afrobeat packs sound more like the authentic kind that they listen to mostly in Africa instead of the mainstream kind that's so popular worldwide.
on your first try I wouldve flipped the 2cd and/or 3rd as samples with some alteration and possibly effects
Your prompt skills must be on point, that's the major key to using AI generators.
Bolo here changing the game, bom (beats on a minute) will be a thing soon, replacing the antique bpm.
Maybe the issue is you type in bom instead of bpm???
I had the same results as you, I was trying to get some slow blues jazz with drums and got some 1980's easy listening elevator music. I think you're right about having a pool of pre-set samples they pick from. When you download the pack, there's a folder of samples and another of stems. The samples are much longer versions of each instrument that's used to play the demo. I was able to get a few decent results with it, but a lot of the results sounded very similar. It's a really neat idea though. I would be really curious to hear the results if you could use that algorithm on your own custom sample library.
I was able to get some good jazz by listing a tempo and similar artists like Mac Miller.
I got some bits and pieces, with sound design focused prompts rather than song type descriptions
Guitars in Afro Beats 🤔🤔😜😜
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I find the best has been typing in different Chinese and Japanese Instruments, got some pretty cool stuff
Man alot of them drums sound fire tho
12:07 Me and BOLO looked at each other at the same time like bruhhhh IKYFL
I had to keep it very simple like "funky fretless bass" or otherwise the results were just horrible. Atm it's not capable of producing interesting full samples IMO. But you might get lucky if you keep it to stems or specific instrument parts.
Ok cool I’ll try that
B-O-L-O, What's GOOD.....I curious about the STEMS in action I STILL use My MPC 2500 but I'm Looking to Grab a MPC ONE or LIVE......😎😎😎.....GREAT VID, SUBBED !!!!!!
We live in a crazy world of AI driving the scean for so many... it really is a case of, if I can do myself or with somebody else i will.. What file types does it spit out?
If a creator is using this to make samples to flip or chop then it makes sense to me. When the human brain has to figure out and learn we
naturally, evolve, and become better at what it is we're trying to achieve. personally, I have
no desire to want to use this. There's joy and motivation when you naturally become better due to
adversity. Just my opinion, make your own packs from the soul, there's nothing better. But if you must use this
be creative, don't just enter a prompt, get the results, and package it. That is so lazy.
It’s probably all similar because this is trained on a relatively small set of (probably commercial?) soundpacks. It might even be an open set of sounds.
Generative AI quality is all about how much data and how good the data they are trained on. Which is how OpenAI took over (among other things)
Was referring to the piano btw
I’m over here lmao 🤣 sounds like the Game Of Thrones band venturing out 😂 A.I. can have a seat.
50 Cent just shared your short on IG today 😂🔥🔥
I personally liked a lot of those grooves
Those first Afro ones were a bit trippy🤣🤣. Ngl.
You had a typo in your 1st prompt. You tend to get not-so good results with typos.
True but even without typos it was not that good
This type of system needs a Spotify type of training algorithm that learns YOUR sound. That would revolution music production. The good thing about that is it would be so expensive that it won’t be locked away for only a few big producers or labels it’d have to be a major corporation with big funding with a wide set of customers so we’ll hear about it unlike say Autotune which they tried to hide for a couple yrs
Would specifying bars make a difference. Sound like it's cramming 130 bpm into 4 bars.
I actually tried that and I used Chat GPT for prompts so I copied and pasted my prompts but the Ai wouldn’t give me the sound I was looking for 🤦♂️ I even tried getting similar 50 Cent sounds came out with nothing sounded pretty messed up 😂
It probably just good for creating instruments melodies
I Tried as well with spednijng 2 hours for fun, it is pretty wack where it is at right now lol
Keep the prompts simple. This works best for single instruments and not full tracks. I’ve used many times and that’s the best use IMO.
I made my last beat using co producer, then chopped the melody a lil bit and rearranged it. Then put in a counter melody. I think it's dope but i gotta make my own melodys too or it feels wrong lol
1 and 3 of the first one had real potential
My lady jive on me bout chrimas and friderator...aka Christmas and refrigerator I'm from Augusta we definitely talk like that Bolo..😂😂😂
😂 s/o to Augusta!!!
😅😂 had me laughing so much!! Some of those beats....someone looking for a new co-producer now..
I like it. The Afro Beats weren't that bad, they were more in the direction of World Beat.
The only thing that I heard that was half way decent was the piano parts. I use a lot of orchestration in my tracks so with a deep baseline and stings the piano parts might sound good
Not gonna lie, all these sound like remakes of Apple Loops you can find in Logic/Garageband
Bro i was crying over here at the results 😂😂😂
I queried the input to generate packs with beats that sounded like Kraftwerk's "Numbers". It sounded worse than "cheap" 80s hiphop. So it confirmed to me for sure my suspicions I had already about AI: that it is NOT going to replace humans any time soon. So much skepticism by the user is always in order. Therefore, I'm going to continue to perfect my craft as a composer. Thanks so much for rendering this highly relevant content!
12:05 😂😂
No no no 😂 man it’s messing with work flow as creative we already have to search in out library the piano was dope
christmaous... that how we say it in Macon Ga.. lol Great review 👍. Yea I am going to pass on this for now sound more techno and futuristic styled.
You had a typo in you prompt =; bom instead of bpm.
Yo bolo,maybe they should call it a melody generator,because it dose not know what afro beat sounds like 😂im gonna use as a melody generator by sound of this video😂im going to just type in some random shit and what it comes up with😂peace bro
I tried it not there yet👊🏾👊🏾
Generation Alpha, will be the generation that does away with traditional production as we know it. Prompt Production and AI chord/drum generators will be the new way beats will be made.
I think all this does is randomize the kits that are already in Arcade. Plus you have to input the BPM and key in your prompts to get the best results or you’ll just get loops thrown together that don’t have the same BPM and key. The prompts work just like the search filters in Arcade.
Seems to me that Output is attempting to assist producers who struggle with Arcade as from what I see, most don’t use the filters when they’re cooking. That takes more time to find sample loops that could fit your project. And definitely nobody I see on UA-cam ever attempts to edit the loops in Arcade either. People just want to throw together loops real quick and easy and when that’s not working, they abandon Arcade pretty quick. So, I think this is Output’s attempt to recoup some of those that abandoned Arcade previously. I could be wrong about all of this though, but one thing I do know is I still think using the search filters on Arcade is better than using Co-Producer.
i just bought 2 bolo drum kits for mpc how do I install these?
Some pre-produced break beats are usable, but no complex AI beats are created. The quality of the other sounds is pretty low. ATM it's not for me.
They need to fix the algorithm because when I say trap, they give me EDM
I am not going to sit in here doing this all day. hahahahah
Hi
I was laughing so hard the whole time. It was hilarious
Anyone else watching screaming bPm?
😂😂😂yes
😂😂😂😂😂yup
Yes sir! How he don't see it when he change the bPm! Like fuuuuck!😂
Oh he just got it now!😄
@@LungzB Yeah he got it, we've all had those moments.
non of my prompts gave me good results to be honest. it's still much better to use splice, all it does is improve search engine and combine different samples, but it's nowhere near real AI making shit up on the go like the one google is testing now. I think stem separation is still by far the best AI tool for music that you can use for real
Let's talk
Merrry Crimmuh
Whoa.....TRAP Needs a NAP......NOPE.....🤣🤣🤣🤣 Crazy !!!
can someone post some good prompts please👍
Yes!!!
@@BoloDaProducer i actually got some of the same pack sounds as @bolodaproducer and @busyworkbeats using different prompts. I tried the prompts on the Output YT video and did not get anything clear sounding like their examples. Its a hit or miss based on keywords you trying to guess at. The piano loops are cool, but its giving us all the same loops right now in beta.
Chrimuh!!😂
I used it and it most definitely did NOT provide what I was asking for at all. It did however give me some stuff that I can work with that inspired me to produce. Not drums though. It's horrible at that lol!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
Haha! How did it not get trap drums properly :)
My (completely uneducated) guess is that without the words "hip hop" in the prompt, the AI took "trap drums" to mean a trap drum KIT... in the rock/acoustic sense.
Thanks! But I must be missing something. What is a trap drum kit in A rock/acoustic sense
@@el-bov8034 The (acoustic) drum kit that you're probably familiar with (with a kick drum and a hi-hat connected to foot pedals) is technically (and originally) called a Trap Drum Kit or Trap Drums.
(Where 'trap' is short for "conTRAPtion".)
Previous to trap drums, a 'kick drum' was played by LITERALLY +kicking+ the drum with your foot.
@@nilespeshay1734 What a fantastic and unexpected answer :) Really appreciate it.
Type in drake type beat, see what comes out lol
afro beats at 70 bpm, i would be confused too 🤣
It needs quite a bit of tweaking, right now, its garbage. Its basically spitting out the loops that are in Arcade.
AI is slowly gonna mess up everything is it cool to have all this stuff in a click I guess …but idk we are legit heading towards a bad path.
The idea is great but I got unusable results about 95% of the time. I tried 90s R&B and it spit out a country sounding beat. I tried other genres too and not one thing was useable in my opinion. I appreciate your review being honest and not just hyping up the new thing for likes or views.
Sounds like the same sounds in splice🤷🏽♂️
In case no one can tell, this is NOT A.I. at all. Thus is nothing more than a bloated search engine that takes you to a catalog of pre-made AudioJungle type tracks. That's it. You may download the stems and convert them to midi for your own instruments and stuff buy definitely NOT an AI under the hood thinking and choosing anything.
When it gave me the same sample from different prompts, I knew then it was just a bunch of preloaded samples
Yooooo I thought the same thing, I just didn't know for sure lol I also couldn't find anything explaining the engine or type of AI model and what it was trained on lol
not good tool at all... Maybe for beginners ?
:)
First
Nope, more like second
@@AdrianBond I stand corrected
lmao
He typed in bom instead of bpm lmao
Sounds like it's just pulling from a library.
70 BOM please 😂😂😂😂😂
Its so bad it hurts lol
It’s not you
hahahaha
This ain't for us haha
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Wouldn't use this ever... prompts and all... you guys are all going to be using the same shyte everyone else is going to get result wise. Just terrible... this program should be call brain drain or creativity killer. Creates complete garbage packs in seconds
That was terrible 😂. You’ll spend more time tryna prompt than you would making your own composition.
2 days befo cre-muh
AI music got a long way to go 😂
Definitely does
@@BoloDaProducerfor a beginner, would you recommend the minilab3 or the mini plus akai
no
It's crap and it has a long way to go before it's any usable. If it was any good Output would be charging the shit out of it. It's got that same metallic-sounding quality of Riffusion which is still in development. Splice's new AI feature does a way better job than this.
NO bueno 👎🏽 I need human music.. i’ve had some terrifying experiences, trying to dabble with AI. I’m gonna take that as a ‘stay away from it ~type thing. stay in my lane… All that jazz
Still got you on the thumbs up though, bro
This AI plug in really sucks.....