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  • @philip5798
    @philip5798 Рік тому +5

    This has become my favourite dirt bike channel on UA-cam, great work Morgan! 👏👏10/10

  • @shaneobrien6034
    @shaneobrien6034 4 місяці тому +1

    I just picked up the 2023 sx
    Can't wait to take it out this weekend

  • @shaneobrien6034
    @shaneobrien6034 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks to your channel i kinda know what to what im getting my self into😁

  • @riders.oregon4474
    @riders.oregon4474 Рік тому +4

    The thing that prevented me from getting a 250 sx back in 2021 was a lack of electric start. That’s why I got an xc.

  • @johnmarino6444
    @johnmarino6444 Рік тому +1

    Im thinking about buying the 23 250 sx i like the fastway kickstand. Im glad i watched this video.

  • @lucianoarias1268
    @lucianoarias1268 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the videos again mate ! Keep going please. I am waiting for my 300sx because the 300XC in Australia is sold out.😬

  • @SteveKiziak
    @SteveKiziak Рік тому +3

    I get so much awesome KTM info form you bro! Thanks for all the work that goes into the videos! And I'll probably trade my 21' 350SXF for the 300sx based on how it does in trails!

  • @6bt_str864
    @6bt_str864 Рік тому +1

    As always bro. Good stuff (from the sweatbox of central fl) 🤘🏽

  • @hammeredhitzracing6015
    @hammeredhitzracing6015 Рік тому +1

    Awesome, excited to hear how the first ride on SX goes..

  • @PezRacer
    @PezRacer Рік тому +4

    Please let us know if the gas tanks are interchangeable between the sx and xc.

  • @jspreparednessandself-reli4856

    Thanks, Morgan!
    I’ve been riding a YZ 250 you helped me with some questions when I rebuild it last , it’s been running great, thanks for that, this year, I think I’m going to upgrade to a 300 two-stroke , so far I’ve had my eye on the 2023 husky TX300 , i’m a woods rider ,
    Which KTM is closest to the TX ? I like the explosive power of the YZ. However, would be nice to have fuel injection in electric start 😂

  • @trevorcarr7716
    @trevorcarr7716 Рік тому +2

    Great video, appreciate all the content. I have a 23 300sx. Going to try doing a couple hare-scrambles this season. Open b, Michigan. Races are a about 2-1/2 to almost 3 hours depending how the leader finishes. My main question. Do I get an xc tank, or can I make it the hour and half before fueling ? Thanks in advance.

  • @NewBelgiumCO
    @NewBelgiumCO Рік тому +2

    These new bikes are freaking rad!!! I’m gonna have to ride my old 2012 into the ground! LOL!!

  • @wesmorey6167
    @wesmorey6167 Рік тому +2

    According to Jeff you should never touch that cold start knob-what we're you thinking?!?🤣🤣

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      Haha. Not fouling plugs and not hitting the start button twice like he did.

  • @charliekohn4271
    @charliekohn4271 Рік тому +1

    I am still currently split. I rarely use 1st on my 18 xc though it has saved me botching a hill a few times and gets used mostly sweeping peewee races.

  • @quietrhinoasmr2597
    @quietrhinoasmr2597 7 місяців тому +1

    Cant decide between an xc or sx. I ride mostly trails but like to hop on a track every now and then. Ive only ever had motocross bikes so some feedback would be great.

  • @bikevault2302
    @bikevault2302 Рік тому +1

    Hi Morgan, tell us more about the clicker settings

  • @joeb10p69
    @joeb10p69 Рік тому +3

    Holy shit I did not realize the price difference was that much that's crazy. A skid plate and kickstand don't cost $2k. The xc 4 strokes only cost $400 more.

    • @brycedavis907
      @brycedavis907 Рік тому +1

      5 speed vs 6 speed as well. Still doesn't justify $2k imo.

    • @lukesnyder9281
      @lukesnyder9281 Рік тому +1

      +18” rear wheel

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Talking to the owner of this bike, we think that it’s KTM’s way of trying to compete with the YZ market in money. The 250 and 300sx aren’t WAY more than the YZ250

  • @200xcBruce
    @200xcBruce Рік тому +2

    Oh boy cannot wait for the drama, and if you like it more than the xc, and if it is perfect.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Hahahahah. I think it’s going to very similar to the XC

  • @brianmullins739
    @brianmullins739 Рік тому +2

    Curious on what you think about the 5 speed in really tight trails, steep climbs, and high speed straights. Range with the SX tank? Stock suspension valving thoughts? Oh... and your channel is soooo freaking awesome! Thanks for doing what you do!

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +3

      5 speed will be good in tight stuff (always in right gear) but would be less than optimal in high speed stuff. SX tank is probably only good for 35-40 Miles depending on where and how you ride. Suspension is going to feel really good at speed even in the Rocky stuff as long as it’s 2/3rd gear stuff.

    • @GNR325
      @GNR325 Рік тому +1

      Me too. I really have no need to go more than 50 - 60 mph on my trails. I'm interested to hear if you think gearing down with a sprocket change would make 1st low enough for tight trails. Thanks for doing this!

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      @@GNR325 I think gearing down will make the tranny great for tight trails. I mainly like 6th for transfers down roads and the occasional desert race

    • @brianmullins739
      @brianmullins739 Рік тому

      Oh... and does the additional air filter cover with more holes actually make a difference? I agree with your comment... my default would be not to use it to help keep the air filter clean.

    • @blessingslawn
      @blessingslawn Рік тому

      So much ktm content. Puke lol

  • @natefrogskida5225
    @natefrogskida5225 Рік тому +1

    I thought the sx was air forks and xc was springs?
    Are they both pre mixed?

  • @brycedavis907
    @brycedavis907 Рік тому +2

    It would be interesting to know if the shafts are the same. Might be nice to be able to mix and match ratios.

    • @my-max-media7621
      @my-max-media7621 Рік тому +1

      Aren't the XC and XCW 6 speed, not 5 🤔.
      I highly doubt they'd work. SX wider physically I'm assuming.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +2

      I bet the shafts are the same actually. Just different drums and shift stars. And spacers to take the place of gears. I will try to remember to check the parts fiche

    • @brycedavis907
      @brycedavis907 Рік тому +1

      @@highlandcycles I tried to find out if the shafts were the same, but I couldn't find a fiche for the sx tranny with the little looking I did.

  • @braaap6292
    @braaap6292 Рік тому +1

    I've always bent up Excel wheels far easier than the D.I.Ds. Excels are a lot lighter though so that's the tradeoff.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      I did some looking and I think the stock ones are not DID. They are some off brand thing. Still pretty good as long as you keep the spokes tight.

  • @stevemarquez9628
    @stevemarquez9628 Рік тому +2

    I'll bet you could add a 6th gear for under $300. That was the case with my 2017 FC450. The Fx 6th would drop right in. 6th is blocked off with a spacer in the FC.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      For sure.

    • @brianmullins739
      @brianmullins739 Рік тому +2

      @@highlandcycles Need to convince your buddy with the SX to pay you to put in a 6th gear. Then you would have an excuse to figure out how to do it. I bet you would get a lot of views on that one. Especially since no one else is likely to do it any time soon.

  • @richardhartley1705
    @richardhartley1705 Рік тому +2

    Will still get the XC in the new year👍

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +2

      I like the XC for all around.

    • @richardhartley1705
      @richardhartley1705 Рік тому +1

      @@highlandcycles You certainly know how to spend my money Morgan lol👍

  • @haroldsmith8454
    @haroldsmith8454 Рік тому +1

    My 2014 SX has a different cylinder head than the XC/XCW, also the CDI Is different.

  • @alllen8839
    @alllen8839 Рік тому +1

    Where did you get your linkage protector on the skidplate?

  • @motoxmatt
    @motoxmatt Рік тому

    Can a headlight, brake light and turning indicators be added to the 300 XC? I'm planning on moving to AZ and that's all they require for a plate. Thanks! Matt

  • @CapesOfficial
    @CapesOfficial 5 місяців тому +1

    So you’re saying the sx gearbox and gear ratios are better?
    If so, better how? (Or if I mixed that up, same question haha)

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  5 місяців тому

      Not better. Just closer together. Some people like that.

  • @davidgrunklee8407
    @davidgrunklee8407 Рік тому +1

    Please try backing off clickers to see if you can get stock sx acceptable offroad

  • @matthewmcallister8845
    @matthewmcallister8845 Рік тому +1

    According to parts numbers the XC and SX use the same pipe. Atleast according to the parts numbers listed on the KTM site.

  • @Bcalhoun4423
    @Bcalhoun4423 Рік тому +2

    You or someone said you can’t swap tanks on the sx with the xc because the sx fuel pump won’t work in the xc tank. Not sure if that’s true or not.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      I didn’t say it. I am going to figure out if that’s true

    • @Brandon-dd8dw
      @Brandon-dd8dw Рік тому

      Anything yet?

    • @Bcalhoun4423
      @Bcalhoun4423 Рік тому

      @@Brandon-dd8dw yes it works I have an sx pump in the xc tank on my 300sx

  • @JP-kr5vu
    @JP-kr5vu Рік тому +1

    Question can the air forks work well for a 230lb rider by just increasing the pressure or do I need to do spring inserts?
    Thank you in advance

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      The air fork can work for any weight, just depends on what kind of terrain and what you’re looking for. They are the best at Moto and high speed stuff. The spring forks do better at the Rocky chunky stuff

  • @CodeMoab
    @CodeMoab Рік тому +1

    How many teeth are you using on the 300 XC rear sprocket? I was thinking about switching to 51.. would that help on trails like 5 MOH?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      50. Yeah, 51 would be good for the harder stuff

  • @mark_Hershey
    @mark_Hershey 4 місяці тому +1

    Flywheel?

  • @steelshotproductions
    @steelshotproductions Рік тому +1

    Is your skid plate factory or after-market? Additionally, are you saying that it looks like a 300XC skid plate would fit on a 300SX because the mounting holes are the same? I'm picking up my 300SX tomorrow and would like to order a skid plate.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      Mine is the enduro engineering rubber mounted plate with the link skid. And yes the XC plate will bolt right up

  • @NOTHERN_SINGLETRAK
    @NOTHERN_SINGLETRAK Рік тому +1

    Did u say wifi module? Are they planing on making it like the YZ450s

  • @my-max-media7621
    @my-max-media7621 Рік тому +1

    Love my '17 SX 150 but wish it had another gear or 3.
    ???? What is top speed on the SX ????? And 250sx
    Thanks

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Based on my XC I’m guessing top speed is maybe 60 wound out

  • @zackeryconner2594
    @zackeryconner2594 Рік тому +1

    I have the oem ktm WiFi module. It plugs in and lights up but the 300sx isn’t in their system yet. Maybe eventually

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Dang. Where did you get that.

    • @zackeryconner2594
      @zackeryconner2594 Рік тому +1

      I got it at my husqvarna/gasgas dealer. I’ve had it on my 21 ex350 and my 22 mc450. I mapped them through the husky app. Never had any issues.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +2

      @@zackeryconner2594 man, no one around here can get them. I’ll dig deeper

    • @zackeryconner2594
      @zackeryconner2594 Рік тому +1

      Yeah apparently they are super hard to get now. Just got mine at the perfect time

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      @@zackeryconner2594 nice

  • @barswapmedia
    @barswapmedia Рік тому +1

    A huge reason for owning a KTM is a 6-speed transmission. I suppose it's for weight savings but I don't know why they wouldn't just put a 6-speed transmission in the SX it's not like it would hurt anything

  • @rogercrandall2705
    @rogercrandall2705 Рік тому +2

    is the sx a 5spd?

  • @GNR325
    @GNR325 Рік тому +1

    Also curious how much you can soften up the stock suspension for the trail. I know it's a moto bike so will still be very stiff, but just wondering between the SX and XC. I'm 205lbs without apparel.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      It’s super adjustable honestly. In stock form it will never be crazy plush but it’s really not terrible

    • @GNR325
      @GNR325 Рік тому +1

      @@highlandcycles Cool. Thanks. Looking forward to your ride video.

  • @Tklatti01
    @Tklatti01 Рік тому +1

    Have any more info on the bluetooth coming?

  • @johnmarino6444
    @johnmarino6444 Рік тому +1

    I have a question i just rode my 2023 250 sx and i had a few backfire when i shut the bike off when we stopped it happen twice.
    Also on our second ride of the day after a 15 mile ride we stopped for a few minutes. Went to leave the bike would not start. I Didn't use the cold start. The motor was warm
    It took 8 times and a little gas to start . Did this happen to anyone else?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Huh. Might be trying to foul a plug. Switch to a BR7ES

  • @watts300
    @watts300 Рік тому +1

    You really make me want a fuel injected two stroke. I’ve stayed away because I don’t want anything carbureted in my life.

  • @elkwhisperer8065
    @elkwhisperer8065 Рік тому +1

    Can you put a fan kit on the sx?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Yeah, the stator is the same as the XC as far as I know. But you need to use the Tusk one that draws half of what the TrailTech does.

    • @elkwhisperer8065
      @elkwhisperer8065 Рік тому

      Awesome thank you for the reply, my local dealer has one of each the sx and xc so i was gonna get the sx to save money but i mostly ride the steep and slow stuff so I wanted to make sure the sx would work for that. What gearing would you recommend? And can I use the stock battery or do I need to change that out as well?

  • @ronhartle3268
    @ronhartle3268 Рік тому +1

    What should we expect with the upcoming WiFi module?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      I am expecting some access to mapping and code reading. Hoping for code clearing

  • @ascendotuum
    @ascendotuum Рік тому +1

    Hey Morgan, PLEASE help if you can. I picked up a 23 300sx, I always go SX and add an XC tank. KTM or anyone else cannot confirm if I can buy the XC tank only and use the SX pump. They use different fuel pumps but it may just be for the fuel indication. If the pumps are otherwise the same, and the place where the fuel is drawn is the same I should be good to go. Can you confirm? Also, thanks for all the videos, nice to ge the heads up before I start riding it.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      I will try to check. I strongly think that you’d be fine with the SX pump. Of course, having two pumps wouldn’t be terrible. One with each tank so you can swap tanks quickly. I will probably get a second pump when I get another tank.

    • @ascendotuum
      @ascendotuum Рік тому +1

      True, but the pumps aren’t cheap. I usually just leave the XC tank on for Moto, they don’t interfere too much. Thanks Morgan!

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      @@ascendotuum I hear ya. I’ll try to figure it out

  • @GNR325
    @GNR325 Рік тому +1

    Are the bearings and everything sealed the same on both bikes? Just curious as you would expect an XC bike might be built for different conditions.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Seem to be identical that way.

    • @GNR325
      @GNR325 Рік тому +1

      @@highlandcyclesCool. If the power delivery is similar to the XC I may very well go SX. I looked at the gearing and the SX has the same first gear ratio as the pre '23 XC and 2nd gear is even a little lower.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      @@GNR325 I will be riding it this weekend. I have a feeling it’s the same

  • @riders.oregon4474
    @riders.oregon4474 Рік тому +1

    My 2021 xc has a thermostat. Does the 2023 xc and sx have one ?

  • @jasonlash544
    @jasonlash544 Рік тому +1

    the new airbox cover is a dream to remove compared to my 2020

  • @Adventure_Squidz
    @Adventure_Squidz Рік тому +1

    So the xc has a shorter 1st gear and second gear then a taller 3rd gear -5th gear so.its a wide ratio and the sx has more of a race/track bike

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      It isn't a w transmission but it is closer to one than they used to be. 1st is low and then they are evenly spaced. Further apart than the sx but closer than the W

  • @Michael-tf3ix
    @Michael-tf3ix Рік тому +1

    Witch one will make a better snow bike?

  • @SeatTime
    @SeatTime Рік тому +1

    When should I fly out for testing?

  • @Brandon-dd8dw
    @Brandon-dd8dw Рік тому +1

    Will that xc tank fit the SX?

  • @chadguin
    @chadguin Рік тому

    Just grabbed the SX. What you guys running for oil in transmission? You guys motorex or die?

  • @jvincent1960
    @jvincent1960 Рік тому +1

    O-ring/X-ring chain?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      No, forgot to mention that. It is a normal moto chain.

  • @EricCogburn
    @EricCogburn Рік тому +1

    Any difference in flywheel weight?

  • @siaknijustin
    @siaknijustin Рік тому +1

    Are the cranks the same?

  • @oldheadneverlacking7010
    @oldheadneverlacking7010 Рік тому +1

    What shift lever is that and is it bigger?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      It’s longer and it’s a hammerhead

    • @oldheadneverlacking7010
      @oldheadneverlacking7010 Рік тому

      @@highlandcycles everything I look up for my 300sx says, “does not fit your bike” annoying

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      @@oldheadneverlacking7010 I didn't buy this lever. The owner of the bike did. I am sure it is one from a 22 SX.

    • @oldheadneverlacking7010
      @oldheadneverlacking7010 Рік тому +1

      @@highlandcycles good deal, that’s the answer I was looking for. Thanks sir. Merry Christmas and happy new year

  • @georgecarmel6114
    @georgecarmel6114 Рік тому +1

    With all the great changes KTM did to the 2023's, why did they decide to use such a cheesy radiator cap? Hopefully All Balls or Tusk will make a better replacement.

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому +1

      Agree. It does feel solid to be honest. Just a pain to get off

  • @Bcalhoun4423
    @Bcalhoun4423 Рік тому +2

    XC rims are made by giant

  • @Tklatti01
    @Tklatti01 Рік тому +1

    Whats up

  • @jamesoso259
    @jamesoso259 Рік тому

    Really not the same bike at all out on the trail. The money it would cost you to get the sx close to an xc would make up the price difference

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Depends on the trails you ride. Just took them both out and the SX isn't bad at all on our trails

  • @billboard1894
    @billboard1894 Рік тому +1

    Change the piston it is junk

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo9716 Рік тому +1

    If they make a 52 gear sprocket it would give a 3.71 with 14 front. Would that be a good way to bring the SX ( 3.5) gearing in line with he XC ?
    The XC gearing with the cool 6 speed is hard to beat. One other thing ... XC a trail bike but they put a front suspension so hard for the trails that " it's hard no matter what you do " ?

    • @highlandcycles
      @highlandcycles  Рік тому

      Depends on how you ride really. I don't mind mine at all in the easier rocky stuff.

  • @haroldsmith8454
    @haroldsmith8454 Рік тому +1

    My 2014 SX has a different cylinder head than the XC/EXC, also the CDI Is different.