Analog Mixdown to Cassette vs Digital
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this video, I mix the song Burn It Down from the 13 Channels album on the Soundcraft Sapphyre recording console to analog cassette tape(and digital for comparison). I used my trusty Teac V707RX cassette deck and a rather generic looking Audio Pro chrome cassette.
00:00 Start
00:08 Inro
02:05 Teac V707RX cassette deck
02:31 "Audio Pro" chrome cassette
03:30 tape repack
04:06 Head cleaning
04:39 Mix explain
05:34 Mixing down to cassette vs digital
09:11 Summary and thank you!
Original Mix on UA-cam:
• Burn It Down
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Wow the cassette-master sounds awesome. I love tapedecks and I still use an old Yamaha tapedeck with my Stereo in the living room. Reminds me of the good old days...
The only problem ist the extremely high price of cassettes nowadays.
Yes, I love cassettes but they are expensive now and I gave away my collection years ago except for personal music. But I have a cassette machine that works and some blank cassettes so thought I'd try it!
Great song and a great idea for the video. Cassette is definitely making a comeback, I definitely noticed that the cassettes seem to have a little bit more depth to it to my ears. A cool channel to check out is this relatively new channel called Made on tape. Check him out you might like it.
That's sounds really cool! I'll definitely check that out. Thank you!
Hi Grady (right?), i was enjoying your comparison and noticed similar outcome to my continuous use of cassettes for recording sessions. Unfortunately the cassette playback was slightly louder than the other sources, causing the "louder is better"-effect. But it was still obvious, that the tape imanent artefacts opened up the sound. I was also impressed by the high reproduction quality of the recorder. A proper reel-to-reel-machine wouldn't so much better than this. Keep on your thing! :)
Yes, I'm Grady. Thank you! I did my best to match the levels and cut the different mixes together. It's a lot more difficult than I thought to get them to fit together seamlessly. The cassette doesn't keep perfect speed like digital so each clip was synced to the video and then edited together by hand one section at a time. I like the sound of the cassette but either the blank cassette I used or the machine had some small issues. It still makes for a decent demo I hope.
man super i do the same it sounds great hi from argentina
Thank you! Hello from Texas! I like cassettes a lot. They can sound very good depending on the tape and the deck used.
wow .. awesome ..its hard to find cassette these days
They are making a comeback but I've always had a lot of old cassette masters from my 4 track days. I used this deck to transfer some of those last year for the Mayhaw Prophets and Gravity Raincoat videos. I'm glad I held on to one working machine over the years.
Loved the video, just a quick question: i heard a big difference in the cymbals between tape&digital and noticed the digital mix was recorded in 16bit (bottom right corner). Was the digital recording of the tape recording also in 16bit? It sounds like 24bit to me but I could be wrong. I'm just amazed by the difference (and how much better to my ears the cassette sounds). Sorry if you mentioned this somewhere in the video, thanks!
Thank you! The digital recordings were captured at 24 bit and the tape recording was made straight from the analog console to tape and then recorded back in at 24 bit. The digital mix was recorded from the console out at 24 bit and then exported at 16 bit which was kind of an accident. I think it all ends up being 16 bit in the video editing software though.
@@TwinCreekAudio Ah that makes sense, thanks!
Offer all formats to the world
I love vinyl and cassettes. I am all for vinyl and tape.
Those Teac's are 3 head decks, no? I'd love to see one step further and you mixing some tunes from 4 track cassette- maybe even to cassette. Bedroom late 80's studio style.
The V707RX is just a 2 head deck. I would love to have a 4 track to mix from but I haven't been able to find one in decent shape for a decent price.
cassette never sounded so good! wow I dont remember it sounding that good... digital is just no body and sterile. the cassette really makes it come alive
Cassettes really do sound good. Definitely gives things a different flavor and seems to round odd and fatten the low end some. It was fun to do!
@@TwinCreekAudio I'd say so!
so we dont need expensive reel to reel tapedecks if cassette sounds this good?
Cassettes really sound pretty good but they are not a professional format. The sound quality is good but cassettes have more speed issues. You'll notice that in the video. It was hard to edit together correctly due to speed variations. For an actual analog mastering machine, I'd suggest a minimum of a 1/4" 2 track. Otari or Tascam are probably the most reliable but vintage machines like MCI or Ampex have more analog vibe. Truthfully I think digital is more useful and cost effective but it sounds better with a good analog front end or mixing the digital tracks through an analog mixing console.
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"professional format" is subjected. If you were to load your cassette mix up to Spotify, the average streamer would not even know that it came from a cassette deck, only an old engineer from the 70's would even remotely know that the mix came from a cassette
Cassettes aren't musically rich as old tapes I guess... Anyway I realkly loved this video...❤❤
Thank you! Cassettes have a certain character that many people like but 1" 8 track or 2" 16 track sounds better but are much more expensive.
@@TwinCreekAudio Yeah dear... I also love cassette mastering and I use that in some tracks...
That's a great idea! I like 4 track cassette recorders that run at high speed too.
@@TwinCreekAudio I found one recently... I really loved it but I couldn't buy it. Sad to say
@@YomalSenanayakeMusic I sold the Fostex 260 I had to my Dad so I don't have a 4:track anymore. I'm hoping to find an X-30 or X-28 to play my old recordings. I need one that runs at standard cassette speed instead of high speed to play them.
Dolby B is not a professional NR if you boost the input you have the pumping effect, maybe th HighCom is better than Dokby B. Nakamish adopted this telefunken technique. I have one telefunken Cn750,and i' m prepared to recap a
I didn't use the Dolby for this video mix. I used the Chrome settings and pushed the levels as much as I thought I could. I used to have a Denon deck that was much better but that was years and now this Teac is my only working cassette machine. It still works though so I'm happy with it.
so cool! Those grungy guitars sound great, especially on the hook! So correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's like, the cassette master is thicker, less dynamic range, more lows, and the digital master is the opposite... thinner, more dynamic range, more highs! Console Master is by far the best!!! Beautiful lows and you still get the highs, and it's thick!
Thank you! Yes, the cassette has a lower dynamic range than digital. The low speed of the cassette round of the highs as well. Cassettes do sound good but digital can sound good too when you have a nice analog front end or mix everything back through a console. I don't do much real work with cassettes anymore but when I started, I used them all the time to take home mixes for reference.
Got it!! Thank you!@@TwinCreekAudio