Indiana Jones Is Summer's Latest Flop - Charts with Dan!
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Indy's last crusade wasn't enough to ignite the box office. I break down the disappointing debut of the final Indiana Jones adventure and how big budgets are making bad situations even worse.
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0:00 - Box Office Top 10
6:38 - Summer Box Office
9:17 - Worldwide Top 5
10:22 - Indiana Jones Opening
16:42 - Indiana Jones Budget
23:27 - Movie Updates
27:44 - July 4th Weekend
30:53 - Ad break: Mint Mobile
32:04 - Ad break: AG1
33:16 - Weekend Charts
36:03 - Indie Theater Spotlight: Neon Theater
37:39 - 2023 Charts
41:39 - Box Office Flashback
43:46 - Opening This Week & Reviews Decoded - Розваги
Blockbusters being flops because of how outrageous the budgets for them are seems to be this year's running theme
Also movies that when they were announced people said "But why?" "We are making a new Transformers movie!" But why? "We are still going to make The Flash even though it's been 10 years and the star is a mentally ill abuser!" But why? "We are going to make another Indiana Jones movie even though no one cares about that franchise anymore and the star is 80!" But why? The Little Mermaid was the only one that kind of gave a why, but then didn't really do anything with it and still just shat out a mostly shot for shot remake. Maybe the lesson to learn here is when you announce your $200+ million dollar movie and the reaction is a confused shrug, maybe don't make that.
Yeppers.
@toddhollen true but Transformers was actually a fun watch (easily the better than however many there are, excluding bumblebee)
Definitely agree budget's to blame but I think the mediocrity of the movies in question is a contributing factor. I'll be very surprised if the new Mission Impossible movie with a similarly outrageous budget flops. People trust those movies and Tom Cruise's commitment to providing a properly entertaining cinematic experience. People will turn up, I think. Hopefully the studios will learn brand recognition just isn't enough anymore and that they need to commit to an actual vision for each movie they make.
@@ekkys04I really enjoyed Transformers. It kept it simple and that worked
Avatar and Avengers are the only movies that I can understand why they cost over $300 million.
facts idk where that money went for these 300M+ movies this year
Covid costs have really hit hard
Does Avengers look that good? Looks like trash to me. The fact they CGI suits is just embarrassing.
@@miz4535I think one of the large reasons why the last Avengers had such huge budget is because of the massive payroll for the actors.
Didn't Pirates 4 also cost 300+
And that was 12 years ago
Following Dan's box office reports this summer is like watching a car crash in slow motion. Brutal flops left and right. Yikes.
Sure, but watching big corporate studios' hubris get the better of them is kind of cathartic in a way. Watching rich people lose money is fun.
The only one I really feel bad about is dungeons and dragons honor among thieves.
That being said I'm happy to see spiderverse get rewarded with success because that movie is awesome
Who'd have thought that dragging an 80-year old Harrison Ford out for a fifth Indiana Jones film would not get people queuing up. It's only been 35 years since the last good one
@@seanfox4121Been saying that cheering on the failures of giant, out of step corporate productions is the new entertainment.
@@seanfox4121Hollywood blockbusters we’re always corporate like films. Why are people getting angry now?
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Great to hear! Best of luck and keep doing what you do - it’s important!
Might just be me, but hearing Dan say "There is no such film as _Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark,_ there is *only* _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ " was extremely satisfying.
If you can, could you do a breakdown of the budget? What’s making these movies so expensive.
That’s a good question. I know for Indy 5, it’s reported that Harrison Ford got $20 million dollars. James Mangold and Steven Spielberg also got paid a lot. So thats potentially $30-40 million dollars on three people alone. When you factor in the cost of visual effects, reshoots, you can start to get a sense of why these movies are costing so much.
I agree
Honestly at this point Dan should go in depth into what he can find in terms of budget breakdown.
Cause I can't tell why Movie X costs 250m+ and movie Z costs sub 200m
This is an excellent suggestion. When I hear a budget of $200M+ BEFORE advertising, I just kind of can't make sense of it.
It would be really interesting to do a deep dive on the budgets of a bunch of these $250+ million movies, to see the similarities and differences in terms of proportions of the budgets spent on different things.
I know that a lot of the time, when a movie has a budget which seems overly high or downright ridiculous for its genre at the time and doesn't have any obvious huge innovations or crazy-expensive elements to justify the excess cost (like old-school epics where they would build entire town-sized sets, or Marvel films where they had to pay Robert Downey Jr. $50 million just to show up), it's because of reshoots and overruns. My favourite example is the romantic comedy Town & Country, which cost $90 million *in 2001 money* despite just being about people in the contemporary world falling in and out of love/lust. According to some stuff I read about it based on research, this was due to overruns/general timewasting because they were rewriting the script during production, extras and crew were standing around with nothing to do, expensive locations were being retained for longer than needed, etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_%26_Country_(film)
Impossible to tell. Once a movie is tagged as a flop, all types of productions dump expensive on the box office bomb.
It's insane for Sony to expect a Spider-verse movie in a year. They know very well how long those films take. Combine greed with the public's demand for instant content, and you end up with the ridiculous, crushing deadlines creators see from this industry.
If anything these flops have shown the public is perfectly happy to wait for good things.
I think this is just Sony. I dare say most of the audiences for this movie are willing to wait for a proper sequel, knowing how much work must go into it.
If you are talking about an animated spiderverse film? Not really. They probably have already finished a lot on the next part. The film was split into two during its production. So that next installment coming next year isn't that much of a stretch. They didnt just stop working on that 2nd part...of across the spiderverse or rather 3rd part of the trilogy in beyond the spiderverse.
If we are talking live action then i would agree with you. No way in hell.
@@Linkman247 That's what I thought, but I've heard they haven't even recorded dialog for the next film...
@@Linkman247 the animators that spoke out about the working conditions said BTSV isnt even close to done, and hailee steinfeld said she hasn't recorded a single line of dialogue
Gosh, it's like pouring 300-400 million dollars into a hole named 'Famous Thing: More Shit' isn't an infinitely viable financial proposition. Especially when we've spent years in a deluge of every damn studio doing precisely that. To paraphrase Syndrome's axiom; "When everything's based on beloved IP from your childhood, nothing is."
I think this is why a24 has been so successful. Their films tend to have more controlled budget.
Most people are struggling to pay their bills at the moment we don't have the money to pay $20 per person to watch a film once
Exactly. Most families aren’t going to spend $100+ each time a movie releases in theaters. Especially when they know it will be on home video and/or streaming in a few months. Theaters are pricing themselves out of business.
@@DDavEE Especially given the experience is less than ideal. You need to travel there and back, so that's more time. You have to sit through a bunch of trailers after the movie's "start" time, so more wasted time. Then you probably get a video or two about how the theater experience is so sweet and/or you are a hero for going to a theater... so still more wasting of your precious time. And, if you're the type that wants snacks with your movie, well, that'll cost you an arm and a leg as well.
So unless the movie really is a spectacle, why go through that? And with big screen HD TVs at home, well, the movie needs to be really special to warrant it. Movie theaters need to improve the quality of the experience they offer.
Just curious: is this a matinee ticket price, or night time?
A matinee ticket where I live costs $8.25 or $8.50.
@@SteelerFan716 in my local cinema (odeon) it cost between £12-21
@@Axterix13 I didn't even consider parking or travel cost! Good shout
The Barbie / Oppenheimer same date release has strangely, I think, worked to actually help boost box office prospects for both movies. The amount of free press both movies are getting with the social media memes and jokes about seeing both movies back to back, and now with celebrities like Tom Cruise, Margot Robbie, and Greta Gerwig, all posting about when they plan to see both movies, it’s crazy to think that originally we all seemed to think having both movies release on the same date would hurt one of the movies over the other.
Kinda reminds me when Animal Crossing and Doom Eternal came out on the same day. It caused a lots of memes.
Plus it's not like the movies would traditionally be competing for the same demographics. They work as pretty good counterprograming to each other.
I expect both to do really well, there seems to be genuine excitement for both, and it feels less like a nostalgia bait thing than Indiana Jones or The Flash
If both films do well there will be movie history/marketing classes taught about how they surprisingly helped each other out. The returns for Oppenheimer will be interesting to track because a lot of the buzz is mainly surrounding Barbie. The watching tactic from what I've heard from online seems to be to see Oppenheimer first in the morning then Barbie in the evening. Again, this whole situation will be interesting to track and analyze.
I don't know... Tom Cruise said Flash was great, but the audience did not follow him to the box office. I do fear Oppenheimer and Barbie reality might be lower than expectations regardless of hype.
I think it's worth mentioning that people who look at reviews/RT before heading to a $20/person film don't wanna waste time NOT ONLY for themselves but for their friends or family they bring along. It's awkward to bring along someone to spend 2+ hours silent... and come out being like "ehhh not sure I liked that".
With so many other entertainment options now, I want a near-guarantee that we can come out of the theater having had a good time and discuss positively about the moments during dessert or on the drive home.
Yeah, it a responsibility to be the movie person in the bunch!
a lot of the disney and big budget blockbusters this year just leaves you feeling empty, which is definitely not a good look for dates or friend gatherings.
if I'm unsure whether or not to watch a movie I rely on Dan and Jeremy Jahn's reviews. RT has been supremely unusable for years.
I remember when I saw Thor: Love and Thunder, there was a group of teenagers behind me, and one definitely didn't seem to want to be there. (Maybe outvoted on movie choice by the rest?) He talked and groused all the way through and then shouted "Fucking shit movie!" when the end credits started.
@@marcochen9117I loved Indy 5. Definitely felt the opposite of “empty”
A budget that large requires getting 850 million gross at least to be profitable. Which really means that the boxoffice expectation was about a billion from Disney.
Just Disney being typically high on their own supply again. Thinking they are once again too big and too ubiquitous to fail so they throw all this money and marketing on something that is tested and familiar, then become surprised when they are missing that something or misreading their audience when it doesn't meet expectations.
I wanted to go see this film. But the audience reaction has been horrendous, and now I don't want to go anymore. I want KK to leave.
Summer movie season and Charts with Dan is like a perfect wine and steak pairing
Thank you, Dan for letting the world know the first movie is called "Raiders of the Lost Ark"! Accept no substitutes!
Also? Han Shot First!
And your "Independence Day" monologue had me in stitches!
Do a cumulative loss for this summer chart! Or a top 10 losses for this summer
Honestly if I’ve learned anything from this show it’s the #1 way to get your movie to flop is an overblown budget! And I think that’s what we’re seeing with many of these blockbusters this summer
(Also love the opening Independence Day quote!;)
Well..spider-man & guardians had a high budget..the best way to avoid a flop is to be a good movie lol
@@mopnem 💯 that too!
(Though both of those movies did not have as high of a budget though)
Sounds like “budgets too big” is the new cope for mediocre to bad movies that audiences don’t want.
@@lunarvisionmore an additional feature and as the video say is not like no one gone to watch these movies, just no enough to make a profit(another video pointed out how these average/mediocre movie woild have been ok in other time when movie ticket was not that expensive or long and you could just go watch casually just to pass time nowis not like that...skmething other than cgi must justify wasting so much time and resources)
@@mopnem Across The Spider-Verse only had a budget of $100 million, though, that's only *half* what Elemental cost.
It would be great if you could make a video where you could count the cumulative total amount that Hollywood has lost so far this half of the year, not just the summer, with all these flops. It would be nice to see how much would be an approximate of the red numbers per company and the total of everything lost. Because I don't know if there was a year with more losses than this one.... I know it might be a hard statistic to get, but if anyone can do it I know it's you Dan.
I am the manager of a small town twin screen theater, and I was amazed to see Indy considered such a flop! It was the best opening week for us at least since Top Gun 2 if this hasn’t topped that already!
Speaking of the theater. Is there a way to nominate for the Indie Theater Spotlight?
Adding a comment to help bump this up. Love indie theaters.
What was the makeup of the audiences for Dial of Destiny? Was it mostly older people who would have grown up with the original trilogy or were there a lot of kids/teenagers?
@@KeithFraser82 it was all over the place in the grand scheme, but I think it tended to range older for the most part. Though, that’s not too surprising considering my location. I think all the tourism for the 4th factored in heavily!
Tentpole of Doom!!! I can only aspire to some day reach Dan’s punning capabilities
Really upsets me that Indiana Jones is flopping. I just watched the film last night in a packed IMAX theatre with my brother and my Dad. I had a great time and really liked the movie.
Dan, your rants are the best. Please feel free to do so again! 😄
You won't see the budget reductions for releases until at least 2025. Next years won't have had these numbers to consider when planning pre, during and post-production costs.
I love it when Dan makes a deliberate pun and then goes on to say 'no pun intended'.
Dan, your data-driven charts and graphs are a great companion to your talking points. They do an excellent job at visualizing and emphasizing your takes.
Dan, you are great! I probably still watch your videos just for the deep dive on the economics of the industry I like so much, but the heart humor and compassion that you bring to every video is above and beyond! Keep up the great work :-)
I think Disney just thought "Who wouldn't wanna see an Indiana Jones movie?!!" and didn't take into account that audiences might associate Indiana Jones and Star Wars much more closely with each other than they think because they both fall under the LucasFilm umbrella. It might be the 5th Indy film, but probably the 20th LucasFilm branded nostalgia product since Disney bought them. The fatigue from an oversaturation of SW products affects this one too.
There must have been some kind of money laundering that happened with Flash. There was no way they put that much money into the movies
a lot of reshoots and CGI might have driven up the budget. but it's still very expensive.
Maybe they folded the budget for the cancelled Batgirl into it? (I hear "Hollywood accounting" sometimes involves this sort of thing.)
Man, had Everything Everywhere All at Once been released a year earlier and Ke Huy Quan won the Oscar, you could have had a story in which Indy and a mature Short Round reunite and go on one last adventure together. I bet it would have exploded in the box office.
As long as the story was fundamentally re-written: has to be more optimistic, less Waller-Bridge.
Love the new graphs Dan! People are so tired of rehashed ips, but Hollywood is so scared of putting out new stories.
I mean looking at how Elemental is just very slowly embraced by audiences (with great word of mouth really pushing that movie higher and higher), compared to how Super Mario did earlier this year, I don't think "People" is general are tired of IPs.
Or they’re just tired of average movies. Either way, many movies are too expensive to make and to and see to be profitable.
Because people aren't going to new stories. Studios are cowards but so are audiences. Almost no one wants to try anything new unless it's raved about.
@@Yachirobi studios just make what makes them money
@@kropianimation1774 great word of mouth for elemental is stretching it, sure its got a bit of legs but isn't any where close to profitting
Studios need to get a handle on those insane budgets for tentpoles.
2023 will be remembered as the year that started the trend wherein 90% of movies shall be small budget art films.
That mini-rant about the proper title of Raiders is proof that Dan Murrell is my spirit animal!
I just saw the movie tonight and I loved it. I thought the script (the story) was amazing. I was engaged the entire film (even being 254 minutes long), and never guessed what was coming. The characters were fully fleshed out, really good, and never deviated from their characters’ potential story arcs. I don’t really understand why someone would not like a really like a good Indy adventure with Nazis, history, paranormal experiences, and Indiana Jones humor and action. Yeah, he’s old, and that was dealt with in the humor, action sequences, and the story of the film. I would definitely rank it just below Raider’s and The Last Crusade. I think it was a very good, heartwarming ending for the character and his universe:)
I thought it was great as well.
Always love a good Dan Rant! Makes me wanna give you a Soapbox and a megaphone then stand back and yell "PREACH!" from the crowd.
I appreciate all the work you put in on these videos Dan.
Would love to see you rank all of Harrison Ford's movies! One that doesn't get enough love is Witness. He is so perfect in it.
Witness is a great film!
I do think the bloated budgets are becoming a core issue for these films. Look at movies like Spider-Verse or Super Mario: each had a budget of $100 million + advertising, and they’re absolute successes, mostly due to being liked by audiences and coming out at the right time. Super Marios had all of April to make money and Spider-Verse came early in June and has had staying power due to being well reviewed and a favorite amongst audiences compared Tik every other major release.
Looking at both Barbie and Oppenheimer, both films have the $100 million budgets and I do believe they will be able to outperform their budgets because they are budgeted appropriately and appeal to a specific demographic of people that will come out for them.
Barbie especially is going to make BANK. It’s aimed right at women, at a time where there isn’t much for them to get excited about at the box office. It’s going to be massive.
@@hothotheat3000I’m going to see Barbie because it looks super weird and I have no idea what the point is.
My money would be on Oppenheimer. Apart from Indy 5 and MI 7, there's not much else I'd want to watch.
@@evertonporter7887 I expect Oppenheimer to make some serious bank overseas and Barbie to win the domestic battle. Both will be winners because budgets are in control for both.
Let’s rethink the 2:30:00 runtime on all of these “tentpole” movies too. Endgame can fill it. Everything else struggles.
Preach it Dan! Been saying this for a while. These budgets are nuts for no real reason. How is it that films like Oppenheimer and Dune Part 2 can have budgets under $150 million and Indiana Jones is over $300 million??? Studios keep thinking they can just throw money at a movie and it’ll make the movie better. It doesn’t work that way. Some of the greatest films in history had to be smart with how they spent their money including Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars. More recently Deadpool was able to be a great movie success with a budget of just $58 million back in 2016 and went on to make over $780 million. Heck the original Jaws had a budget of around $60 million adjusted for inflation. They had issues with the shark and the budget so they had to get creative about how and when they showed it and it’s considered to be one of the greatest film successes of all time. We need real filmmakers who want to tell great stories again and to do it with a well managed production budget and crew. Don’t blame the over-inflated budgets on the VFX either. Dune is a visually stunning movie and it’s budget was $165 million and Part 2 looks just as incredible and it’s budget is being reported right now at $122 million.
As someone who loved dial of destiny it's undeniable that it was very expensive movie to make in current environment.
Definitely think the new chart is an improvement for the Rotten tomatoes segment. I would recommend a double bar set up, where the freshness score and average score are next to each other for a movie, then a gap, then the next movie. Not sure if that would end up too crowded, but it would be easier to digest the differences at once.
The Contempt joke took me by surprise I actually LOL’d! Keep it up Dan.
Just want to take a sec and say big THANK YOU to Dan because there's clearly shit loads of work in his FREE content. Crazy.
Always happy to see a Dan Rant. Totally agree on the budget thing, been ridiculous this year.
Honestly, part of the reason these movies are doing so bad is that they were released so close together. I only have so much money to spend! And I decided months ago that my money was going to Barbie, The Little Mermaid, and Across the Spiderverse
Dan doin the most with these ads. Always love his personal stories with them.
Going to the Neon today to see Past Lives! Thanks for highlighting Dayton, OH - the Gem of Ohio!
The budgets are pretty out of control. Audiences are there, just a bit less so due to some factors. It's just funny how they seemingly randomly dropped so quickly but those budgets being lower would help. In the case of animation, DreamWorks learned this less when they had a bunch of flops due to high budgets and now they're more reasonable so Ruby Gillman won't be a huge flop compared to others.
I feel that, as well as how expensive tickets are, plays the biggest role here and it is interesting/sad to see.
Decent CGI is still extremely expensive. Raiders, Temple, and Crusade had practically none, hence why they had such relatively lower budgets compared to CGI heavy Kingdom and Destiny. And as we know now, expensive CGI is definitely not guaranteed to make a movie a hit.
as I know nothing about this topic; what makes it so expensive? the sheer amount of payable hours by the artists involved?
All the practical effects were what made the first three movies so good, I don't know why they thought it would be a good idea to introduce a bunch of CGI to a franchise that was made great with practical effects.
@@bjfowler9946 Because a lot of the effects work is done in post. CGI reliance means shorter pre-production time, allows shooting to start sooner.
Maybe an attributing factor is the „we‘ll fix it in post mentality“. I recently saw a couple of videos which were taking of the fact that especially Marvel films and their directors do not have clear vision of what they want and they change their mind last minute which causes extreme stress for the vfx artists and might also lead to costly re-shoots.
As for Indiana Jones: Like a lot of movies, they should have gone the Mad Max Fury Road route (no pun intended) and rely on practical effects which are enhanced by cgi.
If you go fully cgi make sure it looks as good as Avatar.
@@lennynero635 But Fury Road spent over two years in pre-production doing location scouting building sets, the cars and everything else. Totally worth it, but that kind of pre-production is a hard sell these days.
Dan, I am living for your commentary this week. I was laughing alone in my living room at midnight about the Pixar comment and many others. 😂
Omg! And you shouted out The Neon! Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for the charts Dan! I’m originally from Dayton. Thank you for spotlighting The Neon. Have a great 4th!
"Good gracious The Flash" not gonna lie I giggled at that part😂
Two suggestions for your Summer BO tracking section:
- On the "Race for #1", put a colored horizontal line for each film's latest data point. It would be interesting to see where AtSV's current gross matches up to the daily tracking of GotG3
- On the "Dan's Predictions / Actual" lists, color "Actual" entries red if they are not on your prediction list
49:21 this visual interpretation was definitely clearer for me!! Love this segment
It's so weird for Dan to mention the BBQ off the bat because thats exactly what I was doing. Lol
I plan on going to see Indiana Jones Dial of Destiny in theaters this week or next. I'd go opening weekend, but with the times were in and etiquette being in the basement these days in a particular divided country, better to just see it later when the theater auditorium is not so crowded.
One of the best years for video games, but one of the most disappointing years for movies
So good for video games that even one of the biggest movies of the year so far is based on a video game-actually THE video game, Mario
Is it?
This year for games is insane, the number of games I want to play far exceeds my time, and it's only going to get more crowded in the fall.
@@evanroznoy940No shit. Between Xeno 3 and Tears of the Kingdom, I am a busy guy.
What are the video games that I should be looking out for? I haven't really seen anything noteworthy besides Diablo and Zelda (neither of which really interests me).
Of course, there's always a large amount of interesting indie titles, but it's pretty similar for movies.
Thank you for the shoutout to The Neon!!!! My favorite theater!
The next Indiana Jones film should have Indy go on a quest to 'locate and dig up' Walt Disney's grave so that we all can see him spinning in it for what they've done to his company.
I am truly baffled by the box office! I really thought this summer was going to be THE summer for movies & theatres. There’s something for everyone so I find it so fascinating that some of these movies are doing so bad. Dan, thank you for doing the lord’s work 😭
I wonder if there's so many flops now because there's lots of former avid movie goers like me who just can't anymore because they got older. Myself and my friends used to not every midnight showing of summer movies 15 years ago. Everything from Hulk to Jarhead. But now there's life, kids and full time jobs and all that stuff makes it so I just don't have the energy to go to the movies every weekend anymore. Yes I have the kinda-time and definitely the money but I just don't have the want for 99% of movies anymore.
Great episode yet again & love the Reviews Decoded section!
Thank you Dan for the shout out to Neon, We love our Neon , Dayton is lucky to have this
I remember when Apollo 13 came out. That movie blew me away. The rocket looked so real. The sound was intense. The score was inspiring. The acting was stellar. Such a great movie. We own it, I watch it at least once a year, and everything about that movie still holds up. Definitely an all-time classic 🍿🍿👍🏻👍🏻
Such a re-watchable movie. Absolute space classic.
Love the line “More money doesn’t mean a better movie.” Pretty much sums up the year we’ve had so far.
The international posters are always a fun feature. The epic painting for Spider-Verse is amazing, and the Transformers poster is pretty cool too.
I LOVE the Rotten Tomatoes Decoded segment and the new graph is much, MUCH better! Thanks for all you do!🙂👍🏾
Calling it right now, Blue Beetle is going to tank. The oppositional dynamic that made the book good between the scarab and Jaime looks to be completely absent from the trailers and without that I can't imagine anything other than a generic superhero movie.
Predict this as well. Sooooo many factors going against Blue Beetle…
1) Unfamiliar character. 2) Too similar to other heroes for normies. 3) DC’s awful track record. 4) Divisive comments made by director. 5) Superhero fatigue is real amongst the mainstream audience.
After seeing the indy movie I really dont even know how they managed to spend that much amount of money
This boggles my mind too. What are these budgets going towards?? When the end result so often looks like shit.
@heatheraggus7501 absolutely my god atleast for like transformers or the little mermaid i can see 200 - 250 it's cgi heavy, but lol fast x and Indy costing more than 300 mil I can only think they were doing a prank when those got revealed lol
Thank you Dan for using the two independent cinemas I suggested! (The Drexel and The Neon).
“Tentpole of Doom” is a 10/10 pun. Bravo! 👏👏👏
While I’m definitely gonna see Indiana Jones with my dad, absolutely none of my friends have reported interest in seeing it or most movies this summer. A few saw Spiderverse and many are interested in Oppenheimer and Barbie this month
my only 'must watch' movies so fare are the new Mission Impossible and, strangely, Barbie. the rest I might, or might not, catch on streaming a bit later on.
I think that the shortened window between theater and streaming is a huge issue that isn’t talked about enough. If you only have to wait about 6 weeks to see a movie at home you will probably wait. If you had to wait 4-6 months these movies would have more legs.
Thank goodness for Past Lives, Joy Ride, and Sound of Freedom. Wonderful alternatives. So looking forward to next week’s Mission Impossible.
Just an hour south of Dayton, hadn't heard of the Neon though. Glad you mentioned it Dan
Big s/o to Across the Spider-Verse which will end up outgrossing GoTG 3's domestic box office by the end of their runs which is impressive given how well the latter has performed; will also end up outgrossing Into the Spider-Verse by over $250m worldwide!
Not to mention outgrossing both Andrew Garfield Spider-mans, Spider-man 3, Homecoming, overtaking Spider-Man 2, and even having a reasonable chance to catch Far From Home. It's likely to end up just behind original flavor Spider-Man, and absolutely nowhere near the juggernaut that was No Way Home 😄
Most impressively, all on a budget less than half most of those.
@@SimonBuchanNz Will be very close as to whether it can catch FFH's $390.5m domestic finish! Its reasonable $100m budget means it'll end up more profitable than most of the other Spidey movies!
Would it be possible to find out what were the most and least profitable summers of all time ? I think it would make for a nice segment on an episode.
The most profitable in terms of net money unadjusted for inflation will almost certainly be somewhere in the late 2010s, I imagine. In terms of profit to budget ratio or adjusted net profit...that would be very interesting to see. The results might be unexpected.
I remember a UK TV special once which counted down the most successful movies of all time in the UK (IIRC) based on "butts in seats", and a lot of the top ones were from the 1940s (including Gone With The Wind, Snow White, and some things I'd never heard of and don't think I've ever heard of since), presumably because it was before most people had TV.
The RT bar graph looks good! It's clear & easy to follow (to these eyes, at least).
This is the most objective analysis of this summer's box office I've seen since Grace's stuff. No rhetoric, politics or ranting, just the numbers. Cheers!
I wish the studios (particularly Disney) could learn something from these flops, but they just double down on failure. They're planning a new Rey Star Wars movie. Clearly they don't want to make money.
Actually, the Rey-lead Star Wars movies all were extremly succesful at the box office. So they're clearly not doubling down on failure, but some of the biggest franchise success at the BO in recent years.
@@kropianimation1774Ha ha, that’s because all three of the main movies featured Rey. 🤦♂️ You can’t assume audiences went for her character - each with significantly dwindling returns. I would love them to spit out a big, bloated new Rey movie just to see how it does. But that will not happen.
@@lunarvision You can't assume audiences didn't go for her character. The audience, that you don't find in comment sections actually really likes Rey as a character.
@@kropianimation1774 Audiences like Star Wars, but do they like Rey? Guess we’ll see when/if that Rey movie comes out.
I really enjoyed The Flash. I wish more people had seen it. It's certainly my favourite DC movie of the past several years. The tone, for me, was just right, which is something with which I think DC movies often struggle.
I didn't love act 1 but dug the rest.
Another wonderful thing about the Neon theatre in Dayton (this week's featured independent movie house) is that back in the 90's, they showed Cinerama movies in the full 3 projector process with the proper curved screen. This was back when the theatre was just a single screen. Amazing to see How the West Was Won, This Is Cinerama and others in a theatre. At the time I believe it was the only theatre in the country that had the 3 projector set-up. Its a fascinating story in how Dayton became the place for a revival of Cinerama. People came from all over the country.
That sounds awesome.
What was Hollywood expecting??? That people were going to flock running to the theater??? Hahaha 🤣😂
Avatar 2 was just as schlocky and mediocre as these summer busts but that movie made ridiculous amount of money. It had no competition for nearly 2 months and Cameron’s name still has a lot of cache and good will with audiences. And it wasn’t a Live action Sfx movie which seem to be getting hit the hardest.
Yep. 1) Avatar is a unique property w/ a built in expectation to best experience it in theaters. 2) James Cameron has a solid track record. He’s generally favorable among audiences; unlike growing reservations w/ Disney/Lucasfilm/etc. 3) Wisely re-released the original in theaters months before to build hype. 4) Not another superhero movie.
I want to know why the budget for Top Gun: Maverick (using real planes, real carriers, real fuel, minimal CGI) was only $170 million dollars, while The Little Mermaid had a budget of $250 million dollars. 🙄
A big part of that will be the longstanding arrangement between Hollywood and the US military: Where if a movie portrays the US military in a positive light that films production can lease equipment from the military very cheaply.
Top Gun Maverick started filming in 2018 and the official trailer came out in the Summer of 2019, however, the film was delayed due to the pandemic..
So, the budget was far lower than if the film had been shot in 2021 and released a year later in 2022.
they got the propaganda discount
Paying actors would have been much more expensive for TG: M too, which makes your question an even better one.
Short answer: because modern Disney. Mismanaged and bloated, they’ll flush as much money to make sure their “vision” is consumed.
My kid told me about Ruby Gillman, and when I saw it with her Sunday I was surprised at how much I liked it and enjoyed it. Solid film, fun time.
Best box office report of them all, amazing work!
Hi Dan, would love to see a mid-year chart from you comparing every studio's major release this year and how much they are in red/green based on budget and profit. I think it would be nice to see cumulatively for a studio. ex paramount didn't have major success this year with transformers or dungens and dragons but they did ok with Scream 6. They have MI7 later this month from which they would hope to earn profit considering the budget but how much would that profit help them overcome their losses from theatrical releases of D&D and transformers. Similar for WB, Disney and Universal. How much they would be hoping for rest of the years releases to do?
It would be wild for a Greta Gerwig/ Noah Baumbach movie to be the number one movie of the summer. I just really hope that it really is a Gerwig/ Baumbach movie and wasn't gutted by Matel. It sounds very promising though.
We need an End Of Summer rundown of net profit in the theatrical window for all the big films this summer, plus the overall profit for studios. And lots of other juicy stats
Studios thought the Nostalgia train would keep rolling.
When I left the theater after seeing No Hard Feelings (Which was a near full capacity), I did overhear some audiences getting fatigued with the constant action tentpole releases.
This Summer, there are far too many action movies by studios, which is single-handedly cancelling each other out with Box Office disappointments and worst case, Box Office bombs!
I'm really sad about Ruby Gillman bc I really enjoyed that movie. I watched it at Regal for the Mystery Movie Monday showing thinking it was going to be Nimona. But I ended up loving it and watching it again this past weekend when it opened at AMC. Another example of a studio making bad decisions. A consistent theme of this yr it seems.
I heard Ruby is actually good.
@@lunarvision Never had any doubts it would be decent. Wife and I didn't really vibe with the trailer as a must see, but it looked fun enough. Actually we disliked the trailer for Elemental even more and ended up loving the movie.
@@joeldipops I’ve heard some say that Ruby is a subversive swipe at Little Mermaid. Probably just coincidence, but funny.
You win the internet with the best Indy title pun. Well played, mate. 🤙❤️
There is only Raiders of the Lost Ark. DAMN STRAIGHT! Thank you for clarifying that! They only added the "Indiana Jones" to it in '99 so that the movies could all sit together on video store shelves in alphabetical order.
I'm looking forward to MI 7. All the other flops seemed like they were cashgrabs to me so i passed on them in the movies
Once Oppenheimer drops, that’s pretty much it for me for summer movies. The box office is going through it.
ETA: Mission Impossible also. But fr fr that’s it.
U sure?
@@gantz0949what else is coming out? I’m genuinely asking. I’ve heard nothing about any movies past mid July.
Happy 4th of July Dan from your Texan friend Aman across the sea in Cambridge uK .
I like the local market pie chart. It's like a "boots on the ground" look at the overall market. Glad it's back 👍🏻👍🏻