joycemeyer.org/grow-your-faith/articles/list-of-confessions For all those who think Joyce Meyer does not teach prosperity, you are sadly mistaken. Just read the affirmations on her website.
All scriptural ... I don't understand the problem. Is there a problem with encouraging oneself with scripture ? Are these affirmations any different than what Paul says in Galatians 2:20 ??? I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live. Yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. (Galatians 2:20) ... or in Philippians 4 ??? I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13) ... or Romans 8 ??? I am more than a conqueror through Him who loved me. (Romans 8:37) Going down the "I can command God" rabbit-hole is surely wrong, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Shall we not strive to see ourselves as God sees us (His children) ? On edit, ... It is needful for me to say that my list of affirmations would be somewhat different than Joyce's ... AND that I would use somewhat different scriptural supports.
@@jackson1915 Yes ... follow Jesus, ... AND take advantage of the teaching servants He has placed here for you ... Ephesians 4 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: So ... Billy Graham, Allen Parr, Ruslan, Joyce Meyer, Charles Stanley, etc. Use them to help you learn of and from God, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit ... 1 Thessalonians 5: Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 Reject every kind of evil.
*I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him,* $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
I’ve also heard the “deliverance” ministries are big there. Like asserting that if you have a problem, you’ve got a demon. Has that been true in your experience? I’m not saying demons don’t exist or that they don’t attack people, but I don’t believe that the majority of problems come from demons.
@Joey_Bag_O_Donuts you could also ask that same question for America with the prosperity churches. The reason why this is happening people want a quick fix plus satan is seeking whom he wants to devour.🇬🇧🙏
I needed this today. I lost my mom 3 years ago and these thoughts do come up. .." did I not believe enough, did I not trust enough, did He not answer because He didn't want to " but it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with Him. I also forwarded this over to a sister in Christ who is going through a rough illness with her husband and she has asked these very same questions. Thank you for following Holy Spirit on this topic. Blessings to you both.
I lost my parents a few years ago. I know how that feels to see others prayers be answered while feeling as though maybe my prayers weren’t heard by the Lord or that I should have had faith more pleasing to God. I had to accept that death is certain for everyone and that I don’t get to determine when others or myself dies. I just need to obey and love the Lord 💕 love to you and your family.
@@shaniecebrazwell1321 Amen! You are absolutely right. It is so easy to get caught up in the flesh, what we want, instead of what God says. I do know she is with God and celebrating, so because of that, I am happy for her. Prayers and love for you and your family.
We should never give to be blessed. With a joyful heart we give because we are blessed. Not only in a church, but wherever there is a need for us to give. As led by God's Spirit. To the glory of God. It doesn't matter how much or how little. All that matters to God is the motives in our hearts as to why we are giving. He loves a cheerful giver. Who gives not just to receive. I lost my son when he was 8 yrs old. I never blamed God. As painful as it was and 12 yrs later still is, He is all I have who helps me endure. Without Him there would be no me today. I need Him. I have peace now living in this life without my son. I know He will restore my joy beyond measure when we are together with Him in a kingdom where death has no dominion nor power. A life of eternal rest in Christ. He keeps me alive. And fills the void that death put within me on January 24, 2012. The day my whole life changed for the worse. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord 🙌
Amen!! I’m so sorry about your precious son. May God continue to give you His peace. And you are so right, we should not give expecting to receive anything. We give because we want to help others Any Way we can, Not to be blessed. God has already given us the biggest blessing of all, that’s eternal life. 🙏✝️
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I couldn't prosper nor be healed. I could never be slain in the spirit, get drunk in the spirit, etc., so I shamefully believed I was the problem. It was so hurtful, thinking God didn't love me enough.
Same here. I still struggle with this at times due to spending years in the charismatic movement. I came pretty close to leaving church for good. Instead I just left the Assemblies of God.
I'm Roman Catholic thank God. God loves you and has a loving plan for you. God does not care for money or worldly things. My chronic pain from my car accident is my cross to bear God makes it easier for me to bear it though.
It’s funny how people want to claim reaping and sowing for material blessings but don’t want to consider the law when it comes to our behavior. As Hosea 8:7 says, “For they sow to the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” You go around sowing destruction and heresy, you reap wrath and death unless you repent. I am so glad I was saved from this, and I’m praying for those still caught up in these cults.
True gospel is not easy to stomach. Contrary to what most Charismatic teaches, suffering and persecution are part and parcel of a born again Christian. In fact we learned from the Bible that we are to deny ourselves and bear the cross for God.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. It's terrifying to think how many people truly believe that they are true followers of God and when it's too late they will find out that they are not. I can think of nothing more terrifying.
Brothers and sisters, trust God when you pray it works. He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $57,000 bimonthly, and you stay and doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is in the way. Amen!!!
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Satan can give you "words of knowledge" that looks and feels like it's from God but is not. Remember, if a so call prophet is wrong only one time, they are considered a false prophet according to scripture
Both the hyper Pentecostal charismatic movement and Catholicism have a fair history of Freemasonry, satanism, Pedophilia and aligning with other religions to enforce the one world religion in the churches. Keep your children away from the pentecostal charismatic movement and the Roman Catholic Church
I visited a church where they had a "healing service" after the sermon. One of the clergy kept pushing on my chest and the other the top of my head. I found it very disturbing and high-tailed out of there when some of the people going up to the front were throwing up. When I messaged the pastor and apologized for leaving the service early and why I did he explained that was part of the service and called it supernatural healing of some sort. NEVER went back.
So good to see you together. Been following pastor Allan since COVID and DLM, Daniel for the last year....you both do great work for the kingdom 👌🏼🙏🏻🇿🇦 Praying for discernment is most important.... Thank you Jesus for showing me the way....all the Christians UA-cam people I've been following, now are on each other's channels. Ruslan, Melissa and Sunday services with pastor Greg Laurie!! ❤
As for decreeing/declaring, I believe Job 22:27-28 (KJV) has the answer to that. There is the prayer part, as well as the declaring part. Does it mean that everything we declare will come to pass? No. But that doesn't render declarations invalid either. If you declare according to the Will of God then it will surely come to pass because it is God that brings what you declare to pass, not you.
Job 22:27-28 are part of the words of Job’s “friend”, Eliphaz, as he outrageously accuses Job of abundant evil which is why Job is suffering. Forming doctrine from this is not wise exegesis.
Be careful with job, until Elihu starts talking, the friends were speaking things they didn't fully know. At the end of Job, God tells off Job and most of all, only refrains from punishing his friends by saying they should go to Job and have him pray for them. Elihu wasn't told off.
Thank you both for your work. It was your videos that helped me escape my Charismatic church and begin to question it with the Word. It was questioning my friends using the Word that I was removed from serving, which proved everything you guys are saying.
As a brand new Christian ;the church I attended said, "God wanted me to marry a friend I went to church with". Many other young people were told the same thing- it was disastrous. Thanks to Jesus, His love remains and heals.❤❤
A lot of ppl don’t realize that tithing was done through the sacrificial system of the Mosaic Covenant. They’re quick to say that we are not under the Old Covenant, but claim we are supposed to tithe. 🤔
I was in the word of faith movement for about 10 years when I first got saved. I can't believe how much the scriptures were twisted. They would often find whichever ENGLISH version most aligned with the point they wanted to make out of a verse. When you actually read an Epistle for example, as a whole, and know what the background of the letter was, it's completely different and actually makes much more sense.
Thank you for pointing this out! Looking back I am realizing that many of the pastors and teachers at my church would use different translations in the same sermon- and not just "the same verse in the Amplified says ____.". That would be fine, but I mean this verse in NKJV, this one in NIV, etc.
@@able34bravo37 Exactly! They would pick the one English translation that they thought would best support their false doctrine/interpretation. So manipulative.
My favorite two Christian UA-camrs. I love that God got you two on a platform together and through each of you to where we can learn and we can understand how God loves his children. Thanks for letting God use you two brothers in Christ Jesus. Keep on doing what you do.
This Is Movement Is What's Wrong With The Church And It's Destroyed Are Witness As Believers! We've Strayed From What We're Supposed To Share With Others! We're No Longer Preaching What Jesus Taught But Rather A Totally Different Message And It's The Complete Opposite Of What He Told Us Was Factual And Right. We Need To Get Back To The Real Gospel Plain And Simple!😊
What a great discussion! Another term I hear often is “I rebuke it” - like what? What if it’s His will? I pray for wisdom. Peace to get me through a situation. Healing. A speedy recovery if it’s His will. When praying for someone who is unwell, I pray for the Lord to ease on their suffering. There’s some truths to the gods idea, (it was used in the Garden of Eden) but it’s being interpreted incorrectly.
Yes been there done that. When I first got saved A friend brought me to their Church I didn't know the difference of charismatic or reformed. My husband and I were there for quite a few years. we saw things that were crazy and questioned ourselves if this was normal. Fast forward we've been out of that craziness for years and we consider ourselves reformed. And since that eye-opening revelation we've been studying God's word and see how crazy charismania really is.
Both of you are a perfect example of how Jesus sends out his disciples two by two to teach the kingdom of God. Blessed be his Holy name. Amen, love you all. God speed both of you brother's. Amen.
I am so ashamed today I stopped with churches because of these shameful pastors the last time I went to church my sister took me up to meet her pastor and I was pushed away from him by him because he did not allow people close to him.I was done I read my Bible almost every day I study and I talk to God constantly.I feel wonderful.
WHAT about the Scripture that says: "We should "draw together" more and more as we "see the day approaching." It doesn't say to be off somewhere all by yourself...😮❤
Anytime I've heard someone ask Kenneth Copeland about his wealth purchasing private jets, he always responds with, "that's none of your business (finger pointed in your face), but I'm going to tell you anyway. I couldn't do what I do in this ministry if I didn't have those private jets." There appears to be a fine line between using the wealth to further God's kingdom and heaping it on themselves (mansions, cars, expensive jewelry, etc.) I enjoy watching David Diga Hernandez's videos because he really does have so much word, but he says he believes in speaking in tongues as a "prayer language" and being slayed in the spirit. It's unfortunate.
I don’t believe tongues are wrong. We never get a clear answer on if spiritual gifts have ceased. However, I believe they can happen. However, you have people who will fake it to look more righteous than others and not follow how Paul said to do interpretation. The idea also is to not say tongues are required for Salvation. They are not. It’s just a gift that can come from the Holy Spirit. Do I believe a whole church needs to be screaming in tongues? Nope. But if you believe it is true, let others test it.
I see Joyce Meyers' picture in the thumbnail. Joyce is one of the teachers that has taught me so much about spiritual maturity and discipline, taught me so much about how to stop being selfish and getting over self pity.
She has also written over 140 books so that’s where she gets her income. Yes she lets us know that God wants to bless us and that includes financially but that doesn’t mean she’s a prosperity preacher. She very often talks about how she lived in poverty and prayed for towels. Or how she used coupons to get chicken. Or was going to be 40 dollars short monthly on her bills. She talks about how she was so afraid to leave her job because of that and ended up fired because God told her to focus on other things. She has is not a prosperity preach but a Bible teacher. God wants us to prosper even as our souls prospers. If you look at Joyce’s website also look at how many missions she supports and created. How much give back there is in other countries and during natural disasters and so on.
vakashibisevakashibisee I think you need to be very careful with that rat poison analogy which is not from the Bible. As a non calvinist I could apply that to say John McArthur and say that he's very dangerous but I don't think that's the case.
I am SO sorry. I'm praying for you and all of those affected by the sudden and tremendous loss. God, please give each person affected by this Your overwhelming peace, love, and, in time, understanding. Please show them how your heart breaks with them for this vile act against you. Lord, let the truth be told and set the captives free. May those who caused this unnecessary loss be humbled and changed and corrected. Shake them up and flip it down. Not in our anger, but in your justice. May they forgive themselves but never forget what lies and hautiness can do. That we never speak out of turn but lead by The Holy Spirit. Your will and not mine. In Jesus' name. AMEN.
At 42, Im ashamed to admit that I followed these folks blindly. I would never think that people would willingly play with God and his Word. I read the bible but had no wisdom and discernment. I watched Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes, Paula White, Juanita Bynum, April Osteen-Simons and lastly attended Gatway with Robert Morris. I thought because they were on TV and had a big following then they must be anointed🤦🏾♀️ Now, I don't even want to go to Church...
Don't be ashamed, they are trained deceivers and could be deceived themselves. Your eyes are open. Talk to God, read and ask God to sharpen your discernment. Your story is a testimony.
If God wants to give us health and wealth, then He will. But not because we give this or that amount. It would be because He is gracious and wants to provide enough for us and for us to bless others. These prosperity preachers got it all twisted.
Pastors will say that we can turn the heart of God....but I have found that God is God and knows what we need. I have found that God's love still cares . I was struggling with this, i felt like i was getting punked by God. These people makes people question the characters of Gos and question if God really loves .
I was in a hyper charismatic movement about 10 years ago. I was very in tune with the Holy Spirit and God used me in the prophetic gifting very strongly. I started noticing that people were seeking me out for the gift asking “does God have a word for me”. But I don’t control the gift, it’s God’s choice to give someone a specific message through me. Anyways, God revealed to me that some secret sexual sin (sleeping with multiple women in the group) was happening with the leader and told me to expose the secret sin and to stop going. I exposed the sin and stopped going.
@@Afrinaturality I still have the gift, not as consistent as it once was. Also, the Holy Spirit removed me from that church because people were putting the gift on the pedestal. However, I think it is a matter my level of intimacy with God. To be honest my level of intimacy with God was a lot more intense then. I didn’t work a 6 figure job, run my own business, I didn’t have a wife and children, no college degrees, etc. Now I have a lot of things competing for my time and attention that I have to balance out and cut out some things. However, the gift still comes when it comes.
Many, may years ago my husband and I were into the hyper-Charismatic movement and adored Kenneth Copeland and all. That is until we went to one of those meetings and he was declared healed of his diabetes and told to throw away his medications. He obeyed and several days later his blood sugar spiked and he nearly collapsed into our glass coffee table. We both realized we'd been listening to lies and we left the Charismatic movement not long afterwards. And, this "healing" caused him to have to go from oral medications to insulin.
i disagree that some of these preachers is ONLY preaching prosperity. Sure come against what is against God's word but we must be careful when we count ALL that someone is doing or teaching wrong
Paul wrote in the New Testament that there is no wealth in teaching and preaching the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Does a minister have a career outside of preaching is one thing. Places of worship are or should be run by elders with the assistance of deacons. The elders pay ministers if they so agree. Ministers or Bishops don't manage the affairs of the congregation.
I'm gonna just say it. A shoe is something you have on your feet to walk on. A hand bag is just a thing you carry belongings in. A watch is just something that tell you what time it is (well not smart watches but u know what I mean). A car is just something you need to get from A to B safely. A good everyday shoe cost $100-200. If you're spending $1000 on a pair of shoes, if you want to spend $1000-5000 or more on a handbag, YOU ARE NOT handling your money right. I understand it feels good to have nice things. And there's nothing wrong with having nice things. But there's a line that should not be crossed. What does that spendy handbag give you that you didn't have before? At the end of the day - only a slimmer bank account. The same goes for the shoes. And everything else. This sounds a bit jugdemental. I don't mean to be. I'm just saying if you think you need 1000 bucks shoes and hand bag to feel alright, you're searching in the wrong place! I myself would enjoy a corvette c5. I have wanted one since the first time I saw it. Things are beautiful to look at. Doesn't mean it needs to be in my garage for me to feel good about myself. Nah. That money is needed elsewhere. We must not becomes so individualistic that we don't help others with their needs. If you find yourself tending mostly to your own cravings and needs and instead could've used your riches or talents to bless others - that's a sign you need to maybe examine what's happening.
When I was in high school, 50 years ago, my friends and I got caught up in the teachings of Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. I met my husband in a Pentecostal church. I’ve found that with Pentecostals, it’s not a good service unless everybody is speaking in tongues, dancing in the Spirit, that kind of thing. He is still part of Pentecost, his sister’s church now, but I’ve been part of a nondenominational church for 10 years. I’ll currently losing a 40 year battle with glaucoma and I think his family gets frustrated with me because I don’t say that I believe God will heal me. I say that God has us walk paths that we’d rather not walk. And I believe that with my glaucoma, God is using me to witness to my opathamologist.
God said blessing and cursing are before us choose life. Dear 30:19 in your post you just said your glaucoma you are literally saying it's yours. If you are claiming something is yours it's yours. You are not making the right choice of words. That disease is not from God. Disease is from Satan.
When the Roman soldiers came for Jesus and He asked them whom they were seeking, they all fell back. That's the closest thing in the Bible to being slain in the Spirit that l know of.
Probably 20 years in the hyper charismatic, prosperity, and new age Christian movement. I did not even know there was a difference. I started seeing some of it when I took my kids to a bigger church that had a good kids program. But rejected the teachings that went against what I already believed. Fast forward. My kids are mostly grown and I start looking for a new church. I am trying lots over the years but never fitting in. Then bam! Covid hit. So I am forced to watch church on UA-cam. We'll I never cared for UA-cam before. Well while I was exploring churches on there I ran into Alan Parr then Mike Winger and heard some of there teaching and would get so angry at them because they were so wrong. But I loved the other things I was learning. But little by little I realized I knew nothing and had almost no truth in me. So I had to start over from scratch and relearn. Yo might wonder why I didn't see it in the Bible....well they are very good at pulling verses out of context and teaching in ways that sound Biblical. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STUDY THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN. It is important to have many teachers as well. But if you do not truly know your Bible, you can be decieved. Now I am learning about all the different Christian beliefs. There is so much out there. But I can say with a high level of confidence, that if you are at a church with lots of prophesy, tongues, healing, drunk or stoned in the Holy Spirit, ro self proclaimed apostles. You are in a false church.
Wow that's crazy I never knew about the movement. I used to watch and was so focused on health and wealth it a lot of work it gets very very very exhausting. I always felt that if I didn't get what I prayed, it was my fault cuz I didn't believe enough Faith I used to get soul discouraged cuz I felt everybody else was getting theirs and I wasn't and it was always my fault
The Word Faith movement, along with the Hyper-charismatic movement is dangerous enough as it is. But it seems like when you start down this road it's hard not to move on to deeper falsehoods like Dominionism and the New Apostolic Reformation. The problem is in the roots of the movement and the fruits. When I got involved in this, I started researching it (I shlould've done this first!) and it needs to be said, there is no bottom, it just gets worse. And where it's leading is no better. Honestly, with all the emotional and psychological manipulation that went on, it was like being in a cult. I got out and I warned all my friends. 20 yrs later it still hurts, and it made me wary of every church I've joined since. God help me.
1 Timothy 4:1 “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”
Healing was not guaranteed by the death of Jesus? Can we all think of one instance in the Bible where a person met Jesus for healing and was denied? Even the Syrophoenician woman got what she wanted in the end. Heb. 11:6 says we must believe that God rewards those who diligently seek Him. That is faith. Almost everyone in the world faces problems but as Christians our solutions are in God. God wants us to depend on Him that's why "give us this day our daily bread" is in the Lord's prayer.
Can you think of one instance in the New Testament when Jesus healed a person that was after his death? So he was healing before he died. Ergo his death didn't pay for healing. He died for our sins so we could have eternal life. And when he did his healing ministry he quoted the verse in Isaiah 53 before the one that says by his stripes we are healed. It's probably worded slightly differently when you read the Old Testament because he is quoting from the septuagent version
@michaelnewzealand1888 So in Whose Name was the crippled at the beautiful gate of the temple healed? And what will you say about "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover" Mark 16:18.
You’re right brother! Cause at the end of the day can we at least believe the word of God ???!!! Yes men are deceiving but what does the word of God say ? “Let every man be a liar and let God be true”
@@blesseddivaangel 1. Yes true. Not every Christian gets healed. But if you want to ask for healing then you should believe that you will get healed. That is faith. 2. To get healed of major diseases, answers are more guaranteed at certain places/Churches where miracles occur.
I have a dear friend in Christ who is caught up in Kenneth Copeland's teaching.. I'm praying I can gently restore him but I don't even know where to begin. Maybe I can send him this video. Praying for wisdom if he will even listen 🙏🏼
Be very careful, openly criticizing the demonstrations of the Holy Spirit. While some expressions in the church can be learned behavior, others can be a response to their personal encounters. There's one thing to warn the church of false prophets with edification, and it's another to discourage others' faith in the supernatural and promote division and discourse amongst the body of Christ
I agree and that's why discernment is so important. I left the church for years. I recently returned to the faith. I would like to find a physical church but I'll definitely use my discernment. Born in the Church of Christ, I visited a Charismatic church once and baptized as a Seventh day Adventist. I have had both positive and negative experiences as a Christian.
I have been in the same predicament re the prosterity gospel, AND tithing. But as i grew in the knowledge of God, I began to question things I had been hearing after a while became none of it basically came to pass, or was prevalent in the church OR my life as it was supposedly preached.
To my brothers in Christ sure enjoyed this podcast what a wake up call for me. This might be a bit off topic but I think you will understand. If you google the name Jadianna Larsen you will read a story of a 6 year girl who lost her life to domestic violence the details are horrific. That little girl is my niece. My struggle at times is the question, why? why? . My wife and I always pray for our family protection but when we got the early morning call we were in disbelief. Fast forward to today and we are doing better. I still have the why in my heart but the Lord is still gracious and kind to us all. Please excuse this comment for being off the subject, but this made realize how many things that were taught to us were wrong. Appreciate the discussion and dialogue. Blessings to the subscribers
Allen, Daniel I apppreciate the warnings but want to ask you both one honest question: have you personally heard preachers teach about us being little gods? I believe that Kenneth Copeland may have once taught that ( and possibly Benny Hinn( maybe only in the past) , but I have listened to many other people you mention such as Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Hagin and Bill Johnson and have many times heard them say ‘READ MY LIPS, I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE LITTLE GOGDS’ And I have listened to many ‘warnings’ like yours which end up being dishonest about these teachers, twisting THEIR words whilst accusing them of that exact wrong. Many of your points I agree with but we should at least commend those ones who themselves are repulsed by the little gods idea.
Hey Mr. Allen, grace and peace to you. Wonderful vidéo as always. I have a question that's been bothering me. I was hoping you could address it in a video. I would like to know more about holy communion, who can take it, and also in what context it can be taken? Like, can you take it at home, or must it be only within the church. Thank you in advance if you fall on this comment.
Hi, I saw your question and I just wanted to let you know what I do, not that I am an expert. God loves us so very much and as we know He knows our hearts and our thoughts. If we purely wanting to express that love of what Christ did for us there's nothing wrong with that or the actual sacraments you would use. Consideration for what is available at your home. Example if you only have a potato chip and Kool aid it's acceptable even if you wouldn't have a mind to do so. But if the urge is that great and that's all you have.. When I started doing it I went through Matthew, Mark and Luke to get the best verbage to use or you may use your own. My church uses the little juice and crackers that are packaged together so they let me have some for personal use. My pastor thought it was a great idea. I pray that you talk it over with God and that would be my only suggestion for you..pray about it. Know also it is not offensive to God. And I am quite sure you will feel and be blessed by this amazing and beautiful decision that you have made. And I will go one step further and say that I truly believe God already laid that on your heart, soul and mind. May the God of all Glory overrun you with His blessings of love, joy, abundance, patience and peace. May He chase you down with goodness and kindness. In the Mighty the Powerful and the Holy name of Jesus, Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Mike Winger has a video on it, but I haven't watched it, he answers in detailed ways so it will help you. The communion is simply to join with other believers continually remember Jesus and what he did for our salvation on the cross and look forward to his coming. The unworthy way was people turning up to church and using it like some kind of party in the Bible. A pastor I saw online, tells people to drink the holy communion of financial breakthrough and health... Drinking it for any other reason then remembrance of what Jesus did for our salvation, that's the unworthy part. Non Christians can't take it either, they don't believe in Jesus, they don't believe in salvation. Actually rather than they can't take it, it's not like what are they remembering and who are they waiting for? It's taken regularly, because humans can forget God as we get busy in life, (that's why things like pray without ceasing is adviced) most churches do it once a month, you could do it with your family or by yourself.
Wow this was great! Thank you so much. Despite the fact that this was more of a warning video, I found myself worshiping. Great information. Allen I love your show. God bless you both.
I was interested to hear this topic but I don't think Joyce Meyer should be in the thumbnail, as she is mildly in this camp in my opinion. Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, or someone like that would better represent the extreme hyper charismatic I would have thought.
The best advice you will get on any subject is in the "Red" ..read your Bible, truth never changes and is never contrary in doctrine and principles, the author and developer of our faith does not speak without hearing from the Father of all creation. The Spirit and the word always agree. Just check for agreement with truth. John 1:29-34...John 1:1-14..study in the name, note verse 31...amen!
Thank you for clarifying by his stripes we are healed. It is misused a lot thinking that a physical healing is guaranteed. My pastor knew that his father was healed when he died plus accepted Christ shortly before.
Few years back I was sick (and it was a chronic disease) until I put my faith in that scripture- Isaiah 53:5- and spoke to the sickness (uprooting it) , after a week I was completely healed. And that without having any medication... and my faith grew in The Father who is able to heal and want the wellbeing of our spirit,soul and body
Brother Allen Parr, I say this with love and respect for you. I feel your bread and butter is taking current events, click bait kind of things, and applying the bible to non-Christians on the fence, and newer Christians. You have a way of being both entertaining and biblical, which is exactly what those demographic needs. Love your channel, God Bless.
Good day,thank you for your giving to help understand through scripture of Gospel,Our LORD JEHOVÁH Keep you and Protect you both and your fam in JESUSCHRIST name.Amén 🙌🙏
Prosperity gospel exposes what people really want. They dont want God they want the gifts seperate from him. They want money and power. You cant be decieved by what you dont want.
I think that beyond the word of god.. a healthy dose of critical thinking would help most Christians. In the absence of someone who can clearly break the tie on a lot of these issues you need to be able to base your beliefs on what is objectively real. Despite this being a well made video there will be someone in the comments and someone who makes a video about how these two fine individuals got this wrong
*The wisest thing that should be on everyone's mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that don't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver, and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...)*
I believe that your experience in the Charismatic movement ... is quite similar to that of Joyce Meyer, who you feature in your thumbnail. She has a past affiliation ... but has come out of it. I'd counsel updating your knowledge of Joyce Meyer's current positions.
I agree. She has even repented of how she used to preach and believe. She talks about how she names her books certain ways so people will think it's about how they can be better or whatever, but once you start reading it she clearly says we can do nothing without Christ. She doesn't preach prosperity as far as I have heard in the past couple decades at least. People always bring up past things she has taught that she has repented and corrected herself on.
This is why it's important for believers and followers of Christ Jesus to study (2 Tim. 2:15)God's Word and not just be locked into whoever you follow for a Sunday sermon. And above all, be filled with The Holy Spirit because He will guide you into all truth (John 16:13) Thanks for this teaching of clarity! Way To Go Allen! Let's Equip!
@@PatriciaNewhart that we know... we do possess his likeness which doesn't necessarily mean to look like, but to function as such. That goes for his human creation.
joycemeyer.org/grow-your-faith/articles/list-of-confessions
For all those who think Joyce Meyer does not teach prosperity, you are sadly mistaken. Just read the affirmations on her website.
All scriptural ... I don't understand the problem. Is there a problem with encouraging oneself with scripture ?
Are these affirmations any different than what Paul says in Galatians 2:20 ???
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live. Yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. (Galatians 2:20)
... or in Philippians 4 ???
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13)
... or Romans 8 ???
I am more than a conqueror through Him who loved me. (Romans 8:37)
Going down the "I can command God" rabbit-hole is surely wrong, but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Shall we not strive to see ourselves as God sees us (His children) ?
On edit, ... It is needful for me to say that my list of affirmations would be somewhat different than Joyce's ... AND that I would use somewhat different scriptural supports.
She is such a woman of God with a life based on scriptures. I'm so encouraged !!
I’m shocked and saddened that so many are taken in by Joyce Meyer. Follow Jesus - not a person.
@@jackson1915 Yes ... follow Jesus, ... AND take advantage of the teaching servants He has placed here for you ...
Ephesians 4
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
So ... Billy Graham, Allen Parr, Ruslan, Joyce Meyer, Charles Stanley, etc.
Use them to help you learn of and from God, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit ...
1 Thessalonians 5: Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 Reject every kind of evil.
ME Too @@jackson1915
*I'm favoured only God knows how much I praise Him,* $230k every 4weeks! I now have a big mansion and can now afford anything and also support God’s work and the church.
wow this is awesome👏🏼 I’m 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how?
It's Ms. Susan Jane Christy doing, she's changed my life.
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!
I do know Ms. Susan Jane Christy, I also have even become successful…..
As a person from Africa i tell you the prosperity Gospel got us on a chokehold
I’ve also heard the “deliverance” ministries are big there. Like asserting that if you have a problem, you’ve got a demon. Has that been true in your experience? I’m not saying demons don’t exist or that they don’t attack people, but I don’t believe that the majority of problems come from demons.
Why does Africa have so much of this hyper charismatic stuff?
@SaintDrews why is there so many hyper charismatic churches in Africa?
Because in Africa, alot of people are in poverty. So many easily fall prey to it@@Joey_Bag_O_Donuts
@Joey_Bag_O_Donuts you could also ask that same question for America with the prosperity churches. The reason why this is happening people want a quick fix plus satan is seeking whom he wants to devour.🇬🇧🙏
Wie toll euch zusammen zu sehen.
Grüße aus Deutschland😊
Hallo Christa!
Grüße aus Frankreich!
I needed this today. I lost my mom 3 years ago and these thoughts do come up. .." did I not believe enough, did I not trust enough, did He not answer because He didn't want to " but it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with Him. I also forwarded this over to a sister in Christ who is going through a rough illness with her husband and she has asked these very same questions. Thank you for following Holy Spirit on this topic. Blessings to you both.
I lost my parents a few years ago. I know how that feels to see others prayers be answered while feeling as though maybe my prayers weren’t heard by the Lord or that I should have had faith more pleasing to God. I had to accept that death is certain for everyone and that I don’t get to determine when others or myself dies. I just need to obey and love the Lord 💕 love to you and your family.
@@shaniecebrazwell1321 Amen! You are absolutely right. It is so easy to get caught up in the flesh, what we want, instead of what God says. I do know she is with God and celebrating, so because of that, I am happy for her. Prayers and love for you and your family.
We should never give to be blessed. With a joyful heart we give because we are blessed. Not only in a church, but wherever there is a need for us to give. As led by God's Spirit. To the glory of God. It doesn't matter how much or how little. All that matters to God is the motives in our hearts as to why we are giving. He loves a cheerful giver. Who gives not just to receive.
I lost my son when he was 8 yrs old. I never blamed God. As painful as it was and 12 yrs later still is, He is all I have who helps me endure. Without Him there would be no me today. I need Him. I have peace now living in this life without my son. I know He will restore my joy beyond measure when we are together with Him in a kingdom where death has no dominion nor power. A life of eternal rest in Christ. He keeps me alive. And fills the void that death put within me on January 24, 2012. The day my whole life changed for the worse. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord 🙌
Amen!! I’m so sorry about your precious son. May God continue to give you His peace. And you are so right, we should not give expecting to receive anything. We give because we want to help others Any Way we can, Not to be blessed. God has already given us the biggest blessing of all, that’s eternal life. 🙏✝️
That’s peace that comes from the LORD. Peace the world doesn’t have. Praise Jesus
I'm so very sorry for the loss of your son. I'm praying that God will continually draw you closer to Him each day ❤
I am so sorry for the loss of your son. May God continue to give you peace in his hard time. I will pray for you!
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I couldn't prosper nor be healed. I could never be slain in the spirit, get drunk in the spirit, etc., so I shamefully believed I was the problem. It was so hurtful, thinking God didn't love me enough.
Right. They teach that if you're sick or poor that you don't "have enough faith" or that you didn't give enough money
Same here. I still struggle with this at times due to spending years in the charismatic movement. I came pretty close to leaving church for good. Instead I just left the Assemblies of God.
I left the Pentecostal church for a similar reason!
@@UnaGorrionathats what i was thinking i use to be Oneness Pentecostal and this sounds exactly like it
I'm Roman Catholic thank God. God loves you and has a loving plan for you. God does not care for money or worldly things. My chronic pain from my car accident is my cross to bear God makes it easier for me to bear it though.
It’s funny how people want to claim reaping and sowing for material blessings but don’t want to consider the law when it comes to our behavior. As Hosea 8:7 says, “For they sow to the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.” You go around sowing destruction and heresy, you reap wrath and death unless you repent. I am so glad I was saved from this, and I’m praying for those still caught up in these cults.
True gospel is not easy to stomach. Contrary to what most Charismatic teaches, suffering and persecution are part and parcel of a born again Christian. In fact we learned from the Bible that we are to deny ourselves and bear the cross for God.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. It's terrifying to think how many people truly believe that they are true followers of God and when it's too late they will find out that they are not. I can think of nothing more terrifying.
Brothers and sisters, trust God when you pray it works.
He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $57,000 bimonthly, and you stay and doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is in the way.
Amen!!!
That's a major win for you. Congratulations on this feat
How do you get so much in that period of time???
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Thanks to God, my daughter who introduced me into the digital market. Mores, thanks to Ms Deborah Lee Clark.
Big thanks to Mrs Deborah Lee Clark ❤️❤️
I Absolutely get a Divine Word From God Everyday and I do mean Everyday. I READ MY BIBLE!
Divine Word.
@CaroleImani Thanks for correcting me on my spelling.
Satan can give you "words of knowledge" that looks and feels like it's from God but is not. Remember, if a so call prophet is wrong only one time, they are considered a false prophet according to scripture
@@jenniferhall4880hello, she’s referring to reading the Bible everyday.
Both the hyper Pentecostal charismatic movement and Catholicism have a fair history of Freemasonry, satanism, Pedophilia and aligning with other religions to enforce the one world religion in the churches.
Keep your children away from the pentecostal charismatic movement and the Roman Catholic Church
I visited a church where they had a "healing service" after the sermon. One of the clergy kept pushing on my chest and the other the top of my head. I found it very disturbing and high-tailed out of there when some of the people going up to the front were throwing up. When I messaged the pastor and apologized for leaving the service early and why I did he explained that was part of the service and called it supernatural healing of some sort. NEVER went back.
So good to see you together. Been following pastor Allan since COVID and DLM, Daniel for the last year....you both do great work for the kingdom 👌🏼🙏🏻🇿🇦
Praying for discernment is most important.... Thank you Jesus for showing me the way....all the Christians UA-cam people I've been following, now are on each other's channels.
Ruslan, Melissa and Sunday services with pastor Greg Laurie!! ❤
As for decreeing/declaring, I believe Job 22:27-28 (KJV) has the answer to that. There is the prayer part, as well as the declaring part. Does it mean that everything we declare will come to pass? No. But that doesn't render declarations invalid either. If you declare according to the Will of God then it will surely come to pass because it is God that brings what you declare to pass, not you.
Amen! Thank you for sharing!
Job 22:27-28 are part of the words of Job’s “friend”, Eliphaz, as he outrageously accuses Job of abundant evil which is why Job is suffering. Forming doctrine from this is not wise exegesis.
Be careful with job, until Elihu starts talking, the friends were speaking things they didn't fully know. At the end of Job, God tells off Job and most of all, only refrains from punishing his friends by saying they should go to Job and have him pray for them. Elihu wasn't told off.
Thank you both for your work. It was your videos that helped me escape my Charismatic church and begin to question it with the Word. It was questioning my friends using the Word that I was removed from serving, which proved everything you guys are saying.
As a brand new Christian ;the church I attended said, "God wanted me to marry a friend I went to church with". Many other young people were told the same thing- it was disastrous. Thanks to Jesus, His love remains and heals.❤❤
Wow...I hope you ran from that. That sounds very cultish.
Tithing is under the Law. Grace is where we are today. Paul said to give with a grateful heart expecting nothing in return. 2 Cor. 9:6,7
A lot of ppl don’t realize that tithing was done through the sacrificial system of the Mosaic Covenant.
They’re quick to say that we are not under the Old Covenant, but claim we are supposed to tithe. 🤔
Tithing predates the law. Jesus actually affirmed tithing. Jesus also said that when you give you will receive, pressed down and shaken together..
I was in the word of faith movement for about 10 years when I first got saved. I can't believe how much the scriptures were twisted. They would often find whichever ENGLISH version most aligned with the point they wanted to make out of a verse. When you actually read an Epistle for example, as a whole, and know what the background of the letter was, it's completely different and actually makes much more sense.
Thank you for pointing this out! Looking back I am realizing that many of the pastors and teachers at my church would use different translations in the same sermon- and not just "the same verse in the Amplified says ____.". That would be fine, but I mean this verse in NKJV, this one in NIV, etc.
@@able34bravo37 Exactly! They would pick the one English translation that they thought would best support their false doctrine/interpretation. So manipulative.
Awesome bible study brothers!Thanks for enlightening me & coming together in this video.
My favorite two Christian UA-camrs.
I love that God got you two on a platform together and through each of you to where we can learn and we can understand how God loves his children. Thanks for letting God use you two brothers in Christ Jesus. Keep on doing what you do.
This Is Movement Is What's Wrong With The Church And It's Destroyed Are Witness As Believers! We've Strayed From What We're Supposed To Share With Others! We're No Longer Preaching What Jesus Taught But Rather A Totally Different Message And It's The Complete Opposite Of What He Told Us Was Factual And Right. We Need To Get Back To The Real Gospel Plain And Simple!😊
What a great discussion! Another term I hear often is “I rebuke it” - like what? What if it’s His will? I pray for wisdom. Peace to get me through a situation. Healing. A speedy recovery if it’s His will. When praying for someone who is unwell, I pray for the Lord to ease on their suffering.
There’s some truths to the gods idea, (it was used in the Garden of Eden) but it’s being interpreted incorrectly.
Awe, two of my favorite people together! This is awesome!
Welcome to the USA, Daniel!
Hello. What is Daniel’s UA-cam Channel?
@@blondellepatriciaDLM Christian lifestyle
Yes been there done that. When I first got saved A friend brought me to their Church I didn't know the difference of charismatic or reformed. My husband and I were there for quite a few years. we saw things that were crazy and questioned ourselves if this was normal. Fast forward we've been out of that craziness for years and we consider ourselves reformed. And since that eye-opening revelation we've been studying God's word and see how crazy charismania really is.
Both of you are a perfect example of how Jesus sends out his disciples two by two to teach the kingdom of God. Blessed be his Holy name. Amen, love you all. God speed both of you brother's. Amen.
I am so ashamed today I stopped with churches because of these shameful pastors the last time I went to church my sister took me up to meet her pastor and I was pushed away from him by him because he did not allow people close to him.I was done I read my Bible almost every day I study and I talk to God constantly.I feel wonderful.
WHAT about the Scripture that says: "We should "draw together" more and more as we "see the day approaching." It doesn't say to be off somewhere all by yourself...😮❤
Maybe your sister's Pastor was married and he didn't want a lot of women around him...That sounds logical...!!❤
Maybe your sister's Pastor was married and he didn't want a lot of women around...That sounds logical.😅
The church is the body of believers not a building
Some pastors like to go off and cool off or calm down after service. Dont take personal.
This is so needed and helpful!
Anytime I've heard someone ask Kenneth Copeland about his wealth purchasing private jets, he always responds with, "that's none of your business (finger pointed in your face), but I'm going to tell you anyway. I couldn't do what I do in this ministry if I didn't have those private jets." There appears to be a fine line between using the wealth to further God's kingdom and heaping it on themselves (mansions, cars, expensive jewelry, etc.) I enjoy watching David Diga Hernandez's videos because he really does have so much word, but he says he believes in speaking in tongues as a "prayer language" and being slayed in the spirit. It's unfortunate.
I don’t believe tongues are wrong. We never get a clear answer on if spiritual gifts have ceased. However, I believe they can happen.
However, you have people who will fake it to look more righteous than others and not follow how Paul said to do interpretation. The idea also is to not say tongues are required for Salvation. They are not. It’s just a gift that can come from the Holy Spirit.
Do I believe a whole church needs to be screaming in tongues? Nope. But if you believe it is true, let others test it.
Allen, you left out Steven Furtick. T.D. Jake's is teaching him.
T.D. Jake's and possibly Joyce Myers.
I see Joyce Meyers' picture in the thumbnail. Joyce is one of the teachers that has taught me so much about spiritual maturity and discipline, taught me so much about how to stop being selfish and getting over self pity.
She has taught some good stuff but also taught error. I'm glad her ministry blessed you.
She has also written over 140 books so that’s where she gets her income. Yes she lets us know that God wants to bless us and that includes financially but that doesn’t mean she’s a prosperity preacher. She very often talks about how she lived in poverty and prayed for towels. Or how she used coupons to get chicken. Or was going to be 40 dollars short monthly on her bills. She talks about how she was so afraid to leave her job because of that and ended up fired because God told her to focus on other things. She has is not a prosperity preach but a Bible teacher. God wants us to prosper even as our souls prospers. If you look at Joyce’s website also look at how many missions she supports and created. How much give back there is in other countries and during natural disasters and so on.
@syrettaajoku2495 That doesn't change how unbalanced her teaching has been. We're all growing but that doesn't justify our failures.
Hence why they made the analogy of rat poison 🤷🏾♀️
95% truth, 5% lies. A little yeast right??
vakashibisevakashibisee I think you need to be very careful with that rat poison analogy which is not from the Bible. As a non calvinist I could apply that to say John McArthur and say that he's very dangerous but I don't think that's the case.
I have a friend who was born with diabetes, and he was told that he was free from it so he stopped taking his medication. He died three days later.
I am SO sorry. I'm praying for you and all of those affected by the sudden and tremendous loss.
God, please give each person affected by this Your overwhelming peace, love, and, in time, understanding. Please show them how your heart breaks with them for this vile act against you. Lord, let the truth be told and set the captives free. May those who caused this unnecessary loss be humbled and changed and corrected. Shake them up and flip it down. Not in our anger, but in your justice. May they forgive themselves but never forget what lies and hautiness can do. That we never speak out of turn but lead by The Holy Spirit. Your will and not mine. In Jesus' name. AMEN.
What??? Oh my word..
thank you bothers for this timely message
At 42, Im ashamed to admit that I followed these folks blindly. I would never think that people would willingly play with God and his Word. I read the bible but had no wisdom and discernment. I watched Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes, Paula White, Juanita Bynum, April Osteen-Simons and lastly attended Gatway with Robert Morris. I thought because they were on TV and had a big following then they must be anointed🤦🏾♀️ Now, I don't even want to go to Church...
I understand but don't go from bad teacher to no church. Find a good one. Praying for you to do that.
Pray and ask God to lead you to a biblically sound church.
Don't be ashamed, they are trained deceivers and could be deceived themselves. Your eyes are open. Talk to God, read and ask God to sharpen your discernment. Your story is a testimony.
You're not alone😢
Really what problem did you have with Joyce Meyer, specifically
If God wants to give us health and wealth, then He will. But not because we give this or that amount. It would be because He is gracious and wants to provide enough for us and for us to bless others. These prosperity preachers got it all twisted.
Pastors will say that we can turn the heart of God....but I have found that God is God and knows what we need. I have found that God's love still cares . I was struggling with this, i felt like i was getting punked by God. These people makes people question the characters of Gos and question if God really loves .
I would rather starved to death than deceiving people for the money
I was in a hyper charismatic movement about 10 years ago. I was very in tune with the Holy Spirit and God used me in the prophetic gifting very strongly. I started noticing that people were seeking me out for the gift asking “does God have a word for me”. But I don’t control the gift, it’s God’s choice to give someone a specific message through me. Anyways, God revealed to me that some secret sexual sin (sleeping with multiple women in the group) was happening with the leader and told me to expose the secret sin and to stop going. I exposed the sin and stopped going.
Wow, that's very interesting. Do you still have the gift? How do you use it these days?
Yes it’s a gift however some people abuse these gifts for their own profit 😢
@@Afrinaturality I still have the gift, not as consistent as it once was. Also, the Holy Spirit removed me from that church because people were putting the gift on the pedestal. However, I think it is a matter my level of intimacy with God. To be honest my level of intimacy with God was a lot more intense then. I didn’t work a 6 figure job, run my own business, I didn’t have a wife and children, no college degrees, etc. Now I have a lot of things competing for my time and attention that I have to balance out and cut out some things. However, the gift still comes when it comes.
@@WeAreRoyalty7 agreed. I saw people seeking me out for the gift rather than God. Which is why I was directed to leave.
Are you an Apostle? Are you over 2000 years of age? The bible is God's divine word for all of us today. Jesus doesn't speak to anyone.
Many, may years ago my husband and I were into the hyper-Charismatic movement and adored Kenneth Copeland and all. That is until we went to one of those meetings and he was declared healed of his diabetes and told to throw away his medications. He obeyed and several days later his blood sugar spiked and he nearly collapsed into our glass coffee table. We both realized we'd been listening to lies and we left the Charismatic movement not long afterwards. And, this "healing" caused him to have to go from oral medications to insulin.
So sorry to hear that
Oh wow, someone in the comments above has a similar thing, but the person that believed it died.
So dangerous!
i disagree that some of these preachers is ONLY preaching prosperity. Sure come against what is against God's word but we must be careful when we count ALL that someone is doing or teaching wrong
Well put gentlemen. Keep up the good work. God bless you.
Paul wrote in the New Testament that there is no wealth in teaching and preaching the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Does a minister have a career outside of preaching is one thing. Places of worship are or should be run by elders with the assistance of deacons. The elders pay ministers if they so agree. Ministers or Bishops don't manage the affairs of the congregation.
I'm gonna just say it. A shoe is something you have on your feet to walk on. A hand bag is just a thing you carry belongings in. A watch is just something that tell you what time it is (well not smart watches but u know what I mean). A car is just something you need to get from A to B safely.
A good everyday shoe cost $100-200. If you're spending $1000 on a pair of shoes, if you want to spend $1000-5000 or more on a handbag, YOU ARE NOT handling your money right. I understand it feels good to have nice things. And there's nothing wrong with having nice things. But there's a line that should not be crossed. What does that spendy handbag give you that you didn't have before? At the end of the day - only a slimmer bank account. The same goes for the shoes. And everything else.
This sounds a bit jugdemental. I don't mean to be. I'm just saying if you think you need 1000 bucks shoes and hand bag to feel alright, you're searching in the wrong place! I myself would enjoy a corvette c5. I have wanted one since the first time I saw it. Things are beautiful to look at. Doesn't mean it needs to be in my garage for me to feel good about myself. Nah. That money is needed elsewhere.
We must not becomes so individualistic that we don't help others with their needs. If you find yourself tending mostly to your own cravings and needs and instead could've used your riches or talents to bless others - that's a sign you need to maybe examine what's happening.
Great video guys.
When I was in high school, 50 years ago, my friends and I got caught up in the teachings of Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. I met my husband in a Pentecostal church. I’ve found that with Pentecostals, it’s not a good service unless everybody is speaking in tongues, dancing in the Spirit, that kind of thing. He is still part of Pentecost, his sister’s church now, but I’ve been part of a nondenominational church for 10 years. I’ll currently losing a 40 year battle with glaucoma and I think his family gets frustrated with me because I don’t say that I believe God will heal me. I say that God has us walk paths that we’d rather not walk. And I believe that with my glaucoma, God is using me to witness to my opathamologist.
God said blessing and cursing are before us choose life. Dear 30:19 in your post you just said your glaucoma you are literally saying it's yours. If you are claiming something is yours it's yours. You are not making the right choice of words. That disease is not from God. Disease is from Satan.
Check out the old Ray Stevens song, "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex?"
I'm in Columbus ga thus has blessed me so thank you for helping me understand the scripture you went over truly a blessing!
Elevation and Michael Todd’s church. They preach about prosperity and are progressive.
Steven Furtick is very bad news. He is Elevation, Charlotte, NC
Rebellion
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
His grace and mercy be upon you and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
When the Roman soldiers came for Jesus and He asked them whom they were seeking, they all fell back. That's the closest thing in the Bible to being slain in the Spirit that l know of.
Probably 20 years in the hyper charismatic, prosperity, and new age Christian movement. I did not even know there was a difference. I started seeing some of it when I took my kids to a bigger church that had a good kids program. But rejected the teachings that went against what I already believed. Fast forward. My kids are mostly grown and I start looking for a new church. I am trying lots over the years but never fitting in. Then bam! Covid hit. So I am forced to watch church on UA-cam. We'll I never cared for UA-cam before. Well while I was exploring churches on there I ran into Alan Parr then Mike Winger and heard some of there teaching and would get so angry at them because they were so wrong. But I loved the other things I was learning. But little by little I realized I knew nothing and had almost no truth in me. So I had to start over from scratch and relearn. Yo might wonder why I didn't see it in the Bible....well they are very good at pulling verses out of context and teaching in ways that sound Biblical. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STUDY THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN. It is important to have many teachers as well. But if you do not truly know your Bible, you can be decieved. Now I am learning about all the different Christian beliefs. There is so much out there. But I can say with a high level of confidence, that if you are at a church with lots of prophesy, tongues, healing, drunk or stoned in the Holy Spirit, ro self proclaimed apostles. You are in a false church.
Wow that's crazy I never knew about the movement. I used to watch and was so focused on health and wealth it a lot of work it gets very very very exhausting. I always felt that if I didn't get what I prayed, it was my fault cuz I didn't believe enough Faith I used to get soul discouraged cuz I felt everybody else was getting theirs and I wasn't and it was always my fault
We've all been deceived.😢
The Word Faith movement, along with the Hyper-charismatic movement is dangerous enough as it is. But it seems like when you start down this road it's hard not to move on to deeper falsehoods like Dominionism and the New Apostolic Reformation. The problem is in the roots of the movement and the fruits.
When I got involved in this, I started researching it (I shlould've done this first!) and it needs to be said, there is no bottom, it just gets worse. And where it's leading is no better. Honestly, with all the emotional and psychological manipulation that went on, it was like being in a cult.
I got out and I warned all my friends. 20 yrs later it still hurts, and it made me wary of every church I've joined since. God help me.
Glad you got out of the movement and may the Lord help you recover and find a nice place to fellowship with some good believers
1 Timothy 4:1
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”
I heard one of these say that if you' don't have a jet you're not saved.
Healing was not guaranteed by the death of Jesus? Can we all think of one instance in the Bible where a person met Jesus for healing and was denied? Even the Syrophoenician woman got what she wanted in the end. Heb. 11:6 says we must believe that God rewards those who diligently seek Him. That is faith.
Almost everyone in the world faces problems but as Christians our solutions are in God. God wants us to depend on Him that's why "give us this day our daily bread" is in the Lord's prayer.
Can you think of one instance in the New Testament when Jesus healed a person that was after his death? So he was healing before he died. Ergo his death didn't pay for healing. He died for our sins so we could have eternal life. And when he did his healing ministry he quoted the verse in Isaiah 53 before the one that says by his stripes we are healed. It's probably worded slightly differently when you read the Old Testament because he is quoting from the septuagent version
@michaelnewzealand1888 So in Whose Name was the crippled at the beautiful gate of the temple healed?
And what will you say about "they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover" Mark 16:18.
You’re right brother! Cause at the end of the day can we at least believe the word of God ???!!! Yes men are deceiving but what does the word of God say ?
“Let every man be a liar and let God be true”
Not everyone will get healed on earth...if not how do you explain all the Christians who don't get healed?
@@blesseddivaangel 1. Yes true. Not every Christian gets healed. But if you want to ask for healing then you should believe that you will get healed. That is faith.
2. To get healed of major diseases, answers are more guaranteed at certain places/Churches where miracles occur.
I have a dear friend in Christ who is caught up in Kenneth Copeland's teaching.. I'm praying I can gently restore him but I don't even know where to begin. Maybe I can send him this video. Praying for wisdom if he will even listen 🙏🏼
It's so awesome that you both are together teaching the truth I listen to each of you
Be very careful, openly criticizing the demonstrations of the Holy Spirit. While some expressions in the church can be learned behavior, others can be a response to their personal encounters. There's one thing to warn the church of false prophets with edification, and it's another to discourage others' faith in the supernatural and promote division and discourse amongst the body of Christ
I agree and that's why discernment is so important. I left the church for years. I recently returned to the faith. I would like to find a physical church but I'll definitely use my discernment. Born in the Church of Christ, I visited a Charismatic church once and baptized as a Seventh day Adventist. I have had both positive and negative experiences as a Christian.
Oh so,….don’t attack the anointed doctrine so they have power over you. Don’t fall for that doctrine of demons.
Even today Satan whispers in the ears of the foolish “you shall be like God”(Genesis 3:5). God asked Adam to do one thing but man have many thoughts.
GOd bless and protect you both ❤
I have been in the same predicament re the prosterity gospel, AND tithing. But as i grew in the knowledge of God, I began to question things I had been hearing after a while became none of it basically came to pass, or was prevalent in the church OR my life as it was supposedly preached.
You have been made clean by the words I have spoken to you, now remain in the vine and Jesus will remain in you.
To my brothers in Christ sure enjoyed this podcast what a wake up call for me. This might be a bit off topic but I think you will understand. If you google the name Jadianna Larsen you will read a story of a 6 year girl who lost her life to domestic violence the details are horrific. That little girl is my niece. My struggle at times is the question, why? why? . My wife and I always pray for our family protection but when we got the early morning call we were in disbelief. Fast forward to today and we are doing better. I still have the why in my heart but the Lord is still gracious and kind to us all. Please excuse this comment for being off the subject, but this made realize how many things that were taught to us were wrong. Appreciate the discussion and dialogue. Blessings to the subscribers
Very sad. So sorry. May the Lord comfort you.
Allen, Daniel I apppreciate the warnings but want to ask you both one honest question: have you personally heard preachers teach about us being little gods?
I believe that Kenneth Copeland may have once taught that ( and possibly Benny Hinn( maybe only in the past) , but I have listened to many other people you mention such as Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Hagin and Bill Johnson and have many times heard them say
‘READ MY LIPS, I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE LITTLE GOGDS’
And I have listened to many ‘warnings’ like yours which end up being dishonest about these teachers, twisting THEIR words whilst accusing them of that exact wrong.
Many of your points I agree with but we should at least commend those ones who themselves are repulsed by the little gods idea.
Awesome video!!! Welcome to the 🇺🇸 Daniel and family. 🎉
Hey Mr. Allen, grace and peace to you. Wonderful vidéo as always. I have a question that's been bothering me. I was hoping you could address it in a video. I would like to know more about holy communion, who can take it, and also in what context it can be taken? Like, can you take it at home, or must it be only within the church. Thank you in advance if you fall on this comment.
Hi, I saw your question and I just wanted to let you know what I do, not that I am an expert. God loves us so very much and as we know He knows our hearts and our thoughts. If we purely wanting to express that love of what Christ did for us there's nothing wrong with that or the actual sacraments you would use. Consideration for what is available at your home. Example if you only have a potato chip and Kool aid it's acceptable even if you wouldn't have a mind to do so. But if the urge is that great and that's all you have.. When I started doing it I went through Matthew, Mark and Luke to get the best verbage to use or you may use your own. My church uses the little juice and crackers that are packaged together so they let me have some for personal use. My pastor thought it was a great idea. I pray that you talk it over with God and that would be my only suggestion for you..pray about it. Know also it is not offensive to God. And I am quite sure you will feel and be blessed by this amazing and beautiful decision that you have made. And I will go one step further and say that I truly believe God already laid that on your heart, soul and mind. May the God of all Glory overrun you with His blessings of love, joy, abundance, patience and peace. May He chase you down with goodness and kindness. In the Mighty the Powerful and the Holy name of Jesus, Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Mike Winger has a video on it, but I haven't watched it, he answers in detailed ways so it will help you.
The communion is simply to join with other believers continually remember Jesus and what he did for our salvation on the cross and look forward to his coming.
The unworthy way was people turning up to church and using it like some kind of party in the Bible. A pastor I saw online, tells people to drink the holy communion of financial breakthrough and health... Drinking it for any other reason then remembrance of what Jesus did for our salvation, that's the unworthy part.
Non Christians can't take it either, they don't believe in Jesus, they don't believe in salvation. Actually rather than they can't take it, it's not like what are they remembering and who are they waiting for?
It's taken regularly, because humans can forget God as we get busy in life, (that's why things like pray without ceasing is adviced) most churches do it once a month, you could do it with your family or by yourself.
Praise GOD.❤
Wow this was great! Thank you so much. Despite the fact that this was more of a warning video, I found myself worshiping. Great information. Allen I love your show. God bless you both.
I was interested to hear this topic but I don't think Joyce Meyer should be in the thumbnail, as she is mildly in this camp in my opinion. Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, or someone like that would better represent the extreme hyper charismatic I would have thought.
Agree. Does he even listen to her recent teachings? No prosperity charismatic stuff in it unless she is talking about how it's not biblical.
hey big shout out from South Africa.
The best advice you will get on any subject is in the "Red" ..read your Bible, truth never changes and is never contrary in doctrine and principles, the author and developer of our faith does not speak without hearing from the Father of all creation. The Spirit and the word always agree. Just check for agreement with truth. John 1:29-34...John 1:1-14..study in the name, note verse 31...amen!
Thank you for clarifying by his stripes we are healed. It is misused a lot thinking that a physical healing is guaranteed. My pastor knew that his father was healed when he died plus accepted Christ shortly before.
I'm blessed being part of the church that is hesitant and checks with the Lord before preaching a sermon about giving
Few years back I was sick (and it was a chronic disease) until I put my faith in that scripture- Isaiah 53:5- and spoke to the sickness (uprooting it) , after a week I was completely healed. And that without having any medication... and my faith grew in The Father who is able to heal and want the wellbeing of our spirit,soul and body
@@jeanphilippeilunga660thank you ! God’s word is the truth !
Brother Allen Parr, I say this with love and respect for you. I feel your bread and butter is taking current events, click bait kind of things, and applying the bible to non-Christians on the fence, and newer Christians. You have a way of being both entertaining and biblical, which is exactly what those demographic needs. Love your channel, God Bless.
John MacArthur called out this same group out and was hated for it. Be ready for the same hate🙏
Fantastic video. Very blessed to have seen it.
Thank you GOD for opening my eyes
Good day,thank you for your giving to help understand through scripture of Gospel,Our LORD JEHOVÁH Keep you and Protect you both and your fam in JESUSCHRIST name.Amén 🙌🙏
Purpose gospel is the new Prosperity gospel
Thank you, things I always had in my heart, great teachings. GOD Bless!🙏🏽
Prosperity gospel exposes what people really want. They dont want God they want the gifts seperate from him. They want money and power.
You cant be decieved by what you dont want.
Wow two of you together 🎉🎉
mannn i used to listen to Joyce Meyers a lot at the beginning of my faith! Great video!!!
As a listener to Joyce Meyer for several years, I can testify that her teaching is currently sound and God honoring.
Whoa. When did you get so many followers? Good to see so many are being exposed to proper teachings even if I don’t agree 100%.
These people don't need condemnation, they need MERCY!
Amen my brothers! Thank you so much for sharing the truth with us. God bless you both.
Awesome teaching ❤
Great video! Keep the long form coming. Seeing you both was unexpected by the way.
I think that beyond the word of god.. a healthy dose of critical thinking would help most Christians. In the absence of someone who can clearly break the tie on a lot of these issues you need to be able to base your beliefs on what is objectively real. Despite this being a well made video there will be someone in the comments and someone who makes a video about how these two fine individuals got this wrong
I hope those who have left these unscriptural movements are warning their friends and family
*The wisest thing that should be on everyone's mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that don't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver, and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...)*
What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?
I would really like to know how this actually works.
Do you have an idea of any good broker I can start with?
Michael Wayne is considered a key crypto Strategists with one of the best copy Trading Portfolios and also very active in the cryptocurrency space
he's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name
All of what was said, but so many of them look so scary
Hey, at least Creflo Dollar has an honest last name...
Creflo Dollar repented years ago for teaching “prosperity gospel”. He seems to be on track now.
@@shampreewilliams8149 Didn't know that. Thanks.
@@shampreewilliams8149 yes and also the tithing aspect
I believe that your experience in the Charismatic movement ... is quite similar to that of Joyce Meyer, who you feature in your thumbnail. She has a past affiliation ... but has come out of it. I'd counsel updating your knowledge of Joyce Meyer's current positions.
I agree. She has even repented of how she used to preach and believe. She talks about how she names her books certain ways so people will think it's about how they can be better or whatever, but once you start reading it she clearly says we can do nothing without Christ. She doesn't preach prosperity as far as I have heard in the past couple decades at least. People always bring up past things she has taught that she has repented and corrected herself on.
Good job brothers,thank you God bless love you.
False tongues is in every church. I don't know anyone whos seen tongues done in correct order
I have. Nice to meet you.
This is why it's important for believers and followers of Christ Jesus to study (2 Tim. 2:15)God's Word and not just be locked into whoever you follow for a Sunday sermon.
And above all, be filled with The Holy Spirit because He will guide you into all truth (John 16:13)
Thanks for this teaching of clarity!
Way To Go Allen! Let's Equip!
That's what they call new thought 😅
Psalms 82:6 and John 10:34 " you are little gods"
Refers to princes & judges God placed to rule over others..not divine in nature.
@@PatriciaNewhart that we know... we do possess his likeness which doesn't necessarily mean to look like, but to function as such. That goes for his human creation.
Thank you for talking about this❤
Love all of this! Hope to meet you one day!
Amen brothers thank you for what you do you are both a blessing to!