Great video! I just bought this printer last week. It's my first printer and I'm learning alot but I need to learn how to make the adjustments that are needed
Early PCs had the power switch on the back - it took them a while to put it in a logical spot. It seems that 3D printer makers are repeating that history. This is one of the better videos that I've seen for the Plus 4. I'm considering buying one instead of another Bambu Lab X1. Thanks for the information.
Thanks for watching! I have an X1C and love it, it’s hard to recommend this one just quite yet as I don’t have many hours into it but it seems pretty good so far I just need to get familiar with it.
@@TwoMooseToo Since you have both machines, a comparison of print quality between the X1C and Plus 4 could be interesting, in whatever materials you use.
I am hoping after this recent round on new releases and higher quality faster machines that some of these companies start learning that time spent on fine tuning quality is important, I think Bambu is a great example with their release of the X1, it shows that attention to details matters. They had great success and jumped to top of the pack with quality and simplicity in mind. In the coming two years we will see the amount of companies shrink as those who pay attention to what consumers want begin to totally dominate or fail. I did take some time the past week and have really spent some time working on fine tuning the Plus4 and also my Q1 pro, getting very impressive results. I spent most of my energies on accel and decel settings also dialing back cornering a bit. There is a setting in there that has a default of 90% for smoothing and says it involves the straight run prior to a corner on how print head behaves going into corner how soon it begins slow down, I dialed this number down to 80 from 90 and noticed some remarkable improvements on final outer wall layers. I am finding keeping all acceleration numbers down around 3800-5500 max and slowing down z a notch with few other settings is causing print quality to really come out incredible even when pushing higher speeds. I also have been using a new favorite PLA for made by Overture, it is a multi color Rock series from Overture available through Amazon. It has a great price, but most importantly and incredible matte finish with a fantastic multicolor look that reminds me of the colors one sees out west in the Grand Canyon. This Overture Rock series PLA is amazing, they have several incredible multi color offerings all in a gorgeous velvety matte finish. I did up several statues that were the max size of the Plus4 and came out absolutely stunning. They had no layer lines, and some of these new PLA's trying out look amazing. I went through 4 kg of them in the past week, will be ordering up a few dozen rolls going forward. If anyone is having tough time getting final quality up on the Plus4 make sure you spend some time working on some of the above mentioned settings, the payback is fantastic. I have always been an ABS guy, but in the past week some of the PLA's have really grown on me, especially when using them for very large statues, I can see why PLA popularity remains so high, the surface finish is hard to beat on a high quality filament.
5:16 Printer violated. I usually don't watch unboxings, but this one was pretty entertaining. At least they sent dark colored filament instead of white which hides all flaws on camera. Orca profiles are available in version 2.2 beta 2. I've had mine since launch and I am really enjoying it. Precision and quality are very high. Really solid printer.
Got the plus4 four days after release and the update works without any problem (with USB to V.1.4.0) over wifi it will not work on the stock firmware. Prints without any problem and i have printed ~50h in total.
In instruction manual must do manual update on first one. Had some amazing prints on this machine, done tons of engineer grade filaments, love it. I found out about Qidi studio, never knew they had that out. Be sure you print the spool piece that for holder.
Thinking about getting this instead of a P1S. I've already an A1 and A1 Mini. But i need an enclosed xy next. This beats the P1s in printable volume, active heated chamber, 120°c+ bed, 350°c+ nozzle. I'd use it for Nylon CF. 👍🏻
I have the QIDI x-max 3 Printer and i like how flawless it Prints. But whenever i see the Plus 4, i Love the plus 4 more and more. They solved the Chamber heating so good and the Printer is ready for Multi Material. It is like the next Generation from x-max 3.
I am buying this printer yet giving it about 5 months for them to work out all the bugs it may have. One cool feature they already added in the firmware update 1.4 is that it now can work as a fully functional filament drying unit. Why I'm guessing we see all glass?
The Bambus have this as well. Which it works fine but your printer can’t be used so I’d recommend spending $50 on a filament dryer. That’s my personal opinion. And smart! Let other people work out the bugs first lol
@@TwoMooseToo Cool so the Bambu as well has the menu option to select the filament type you want to dry? But yes, my first printer I looked at only the 1 year views to find the best printer still standing and why I picked the X-Plus that is still working to this day (but damn I hate not having auto leveling!)
Good job, but you should check, if you have the same loose Bearing Problem as others have been having (that could be causing those Z-Artefacts). ;) But the Printer looks very interesting.
I’ll have to check that out! I try not to watch others videos until I make my review but I’ll definitely look into that! It’s definitely seems like a good printer just need to learn it’s quirks. Thanks for watching!
It's a nice looking printer at a good price point, but the P1S is at the same price point and delivers superior user experience and print quality. Shouldn't have to manually download updates to a thumb drive to get it to work. Should definitely come with a 2nd nozzle. Should just work with Orca slicer. Should just work out of the box. These companies keep trying to come out with their own skinned slicers, but they're never really good enough, and making it so the printer only wants to work with the limited/malfunctioning skinned proprietary slicer is a serious turn-off for potential buyers. If I was on the Qidi development team, I'd be telling them to ditch the skinned slicer and just make it work with Orca, and to perfect the machine to the point it just works out of the box, like Bambu. Literally, follow Bambu's business and production template. Then Qidi would really be taking sales away from Bambu, because the Qidi has a larger build plate, which is probably the biggest single complaint from Bambu users. I won't say nobody wants their 3D printing hobby to be about spending a huge amount of time messing around with the printer just to try to get it to work right. Those people are definitely out there. But I feel like they're dwindling in number compared to the people who just want to be able to print stuff reliably. That's really where Bambu succeeds compared to everyone else, that and support and depth of aftermarket supplies.
Update failed here too . Keeps halting at 33%. Didn't even want to start up at one time 😮 for now everything working super fine. My benchy is probably one of the best i have ever seen. So maybe its bad filament 🎉 (ps my filament was on a shelf for 5 months out of box and bag) honestly your benchy looks like crap...😮
Yeah mine would freeze at 33% then the manual update worked right away. Yeah the benchy was not the best. I’ll check the belts and everything make sure all that’s good. Someone else mentioned others had some bearing issues?
Auto update over the wire doesn't work properly prior to the v1.4 firmware version. Need to usual manual update instead. Once 1.4 is installed, Qidi states that future updates will work over the wire.
ua-cam.com/video/0yCxjBopkfs/v-deo.html this is the potential bearing issue, I just got mine setup a few days ago and its working awsome, i really want orca slicer working as well so I can moniter the printer, I tried to get mine working but I need to fix orca slicer throwing errors for qidi's custom gcode macros...
Someone in the comments mentioned the latest version of orca had the profile for the printer. I haven’t confirmed this yet as when I made the video I didn’t see it. Thanks for tagging the video I’ll definitely check this out
Received mine 2 days ago and it has not printed anything. I updated the firmware and heat bed will not work, it shuts the whole system down. I believe the power supply is faulty, not surprised, just buy the Bambu Labs!
Ohhhhh no good! I’d just return it and get a fresh one than trying to trouble shoot. Sounds like you got a dud. I have 3 Bambus and they have been great.
my printer arrived ...did not work....nozzle temp never stopped increasing...shut it down at 390C.....then QIDI sends me computer boards as if I freaking know how to building the print head...and then after hours of figuring it out, the damn Allen screws then installed at factory were stripped....ended up snapping off the plastic where it attached...and and cant get the dang camera to work...this printer has been a a huge disappointment
Agreed. The last printer I had was the same way. I don’t know why but after the manual update I could do them all via WiFi. I think it more so has to do with companies rushing products to market and they don’t get all the software ironed out but I have no actual idea
@@TwoMooseToo Qidi has instructions in the official store: Firmware versions prior to V1.4.0 need to be updated offline, V1.4.0 Version and later versions can be updated online.
The very first update has to be done by USB. Every update after that will be OTA. This is also only a problem for the very first batch of printers. Chill.
Bambu Labs was basically the reigning champion. After all other printer companies got knocked down in the 3rd-5th round, Bambu has been celebrating 🙌. Unbeknownst to Bambu, it’s now round 15 & Qidi just got back up while Bambu has been too distracted by the fanboy crowd. Qidi just knocked Bambu out, but it was so swift, they don’t know what hit them yet. The shockwave hasn’t been felt yet. With Bambu’s invasive network plugin, this just did them in.
Owning a P1S and having seen dozens of the reviews of this Plus4, I don't think Qidi is playing at the same level of QA. Overall it's a nice offering for the price, but the problems with the linear bearings, several people having problems with the firmware upgrade and some other issues (some indeed solved with a manual firmware upgrade), just put it at a lower quality level than Bambu. And then there is the 24v bed ... Why? Especially since they did use an AC bed before ... But more important in my eyes is that also Qidi is one of those companies rotating their printer offerings at least every year. That"s needed for them to catch up, but if they keep on doing that, it also means buyers will quickly be out in the cold as the printer they bought will barely be supported in a year from now and the community around each type will be limited because it always gets superseded by the next generation.
Everything you just said was wrong lol BL will be just fine every single electronic device on earth is more intrusive than a printer if you actually cared about your security you wouldn’t be watching this lol
nope...my Qidi has been a complete wreck.....go read my earlier post.....my Bambu has been working for over 2000 hours of printing so far....my Qidi did even work out of the box....have had to replace extruder, hot end, two computer boards and still cant get it working correctly.....
The only thing I hate about their printers is their build surfaces are completely different than every other printer so you have no other choice but to pay their prices for their build plate, lol proprietary build plate
@@TwoMooseToo it will only happen if we let it happen, but people are going to buy what they want to buy or what they think is the best for what they want, and we have no control over it unfortunately...
@@NoMercyFtw Literally any build plate that is 310X310. Examples: Energetic, BIQU, OSEQ, KDEAVI, even the K1 Max build plate would likely fit given it is 310 wide.
Printer is fantastic. Most people on the Discord, in the comments, and I are really enjoying it. Precision and quality are great. A few teething issues, but nothing huge. Extremely capable printer for the money.
I definitely wouldn’t classify it as garbage. I follow the facebook group and overall people seem to be liking them. Personally I haven’t spent much time with it but I’ve definitely had way worse printers out of the box.
If it wasn't for "Chitty", your life wouldn't be as grand as it is now. The Plus 4 isn't perfect, but for a sub $1k printer, it's great at what it does. I've been 3D printing for over 20 years and I thank Chitty on the regular for pushing things forward. After all, that's the entire theory of capitalist economics isn't it?
@@802Garagemilions of fly's eat sh$#t it doesn't mean that whole world should even taste it.. one day u wake up and whole your country will bebuyed by Chinese, worst is that you give them money on that in exchange on garbage, meanwhile people in your own country lose jobs,.. and people like you think why that corporation close job places in your country and they go to China xD...
Good review! I just ordered mine and I'm sure I'm gonna have a lot of fun with it. That's gonna be a huge upgrade from my Ender 3 V2 ^^
Mines been great!
Great video! I just bought this printer last week. It's my first printer and I'm learning alot but I need to learn how to make the adjustments that are needed
I will share tips in the update video on how I improve the prints thanks for watching!
Early PCs had the power switch on the back - it took them a while to put it in a logical spot. It seems that 3D printer makers are repeating that history.
This is one of the better videos that I've seen for the Plus 4. I'm considering buying one instead of another Bambu Lab X1. Thanks for the information.
Thanks for watching! I have an X1C and love it, it’s hard to recommend this one just quite yet as I don’t have many hours into it but it seems pretty good so far I just need to get familiar with it.
@@TwoMooseToo Since you have both machines, a comparison of print quality between the X1C and Plus 4 could be interesting, in whatever materials you use.
I am hoping after this recent round on new releases and higher quality faster machines that some of these companies start learning that time spent on fine tuning quality is important, I think Bambu is a great example with their release of the X1, it shows that attention to details matters. They had great success and jumped to top of the pack with quality and simplicity in mind. In the coming two years we will see the amount of companies shrink as those who pay attention to what consumers want begin to totally dominate or fail.
I did take some time the past week and have really spent some time working on fine tuning the Plus4 and also my Q1 pro, getting very impressive results. I spent most of my energies on accel and decel settings also dialing back cornering a bit. There is a setting in there that has a default of 90% for smoothing and says it involves the straight run prior to a corner on how print head behaves going into corner how soon it begins slow down, I dialed this number down to 80 from 90 and noticed some remarkable improvements on final outer wall layers. I am finding keeping all acceleration numbers down around 3800-5500 max and slowing down z a notch with few other settings is causing print quality to really come out incredible even when pushing higher speeds.
I also have been using a new favorite PLA for made by Overture, it is a multi color Rock series from Overture available through Amazon. It has a great price, but most importantly and incredible matte finish with a fantastic multicolor look that reminds me of the colors one sees out west in the Grand Canyon. This Overture Rock series PLA is amazing, they have several incredible multi color offerings all in a gorgeous velvety matte finish. I did up several statues that were the max size of the Plus4 and came out absolutely stunning. They had no layer lines, and some of these new PLA's trying out look amazing. I went through 4 kg of them in the past week, will be ordering up a few dozen rolls going forward.
If anyone is having tough time getting final quality up on the Plus4 make sure you spend some time working on some of the above mentioned settings, the payback is fantastic. I have always been an ABS guy, but in the past week some of the PLA's have really grown on me, especially when using them for very large statues, I can see why PLA popularity remains so high, the surface finish is hard to beat on a high quality filament.
😆as a 3D noob but plus 4 owner I'm looking forward to your followup video as well as enjoying this one. Tuanks.
Thanks I appreciate it!
Thanks for your review. I have one. Has been working great! Really love it!
Thanks for watching! ☺️
5:16 Printer violated.
I usually don't watch unboxings, but this one was pretty entertaining. At least they sent dark colored filament instead of white which hides all flaws on camera.
Orca profiles are available in version 2.2 beta 2. I've had mine since launch and I am really enjoying it. Precision and quality are very high. Really solid printer.
Ohhhh sweeet! I thought mine was up to date but must not be! I’ll check in the morning. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it
Got the plus4 four days after release and the update works without any problem (with USB to V.1.4.0) over wifi it will not work on the stock firmware. Prints without any problem and i have printed ~50h in total.
Heck yeah, glad it’s printing well
Good, mines on the way
In instruction manual must do manual update on first one. Had some amazing prints on this machine, done tons of engineer grade filaments, love it. I found out about Qidi studio, never knew they had that out. Be sure you print the spool piece that for holder.
Thanks for the tips! And I just found the Bambu slicer clone last night lol
Thinking about getting this instead of a P1S. I've already an A1 and A1 Mini. But i need an enclosed xy next. This beats the P1s in printable volume, active heated chamber, 120°c+ bed, 350°c+ nozzle. I'd use it for Nylon CF. 👍🏻
Yeah If you’re going to be printing something like nylon the heated chamber is nice
I have the QIDI x-max 3 Printer and i like how flawless it Prints.
But whenever i see the Plus 4, i Love the plus 4 more and more.
They solved the Chamber heating so good and the Printer is ready for Multi Material.
It is like the next Generation from x-max 3.
Well, it is the next generation to the X-max 3
Yeah the new chamber heater is definitely interesting. My x Max 3 prints great too
I'll be ordering one this week! Thanks for the review
I’ve been running different filaments through it and it’s been great
Other reviews and owners have noted that benchy gcode is bad that comes with the printer.
That’s what I assumed, I try not to watch other reviews until I finish making mine but yeah definitely not the best benchy lol
Tons of trouble on mine with the print head assembly.
Qidi Qidi Bang Bang.
😆😆😆 I’ll have to use that as a title for my update video haha
I am buying this printer yet giving it about 5 months for them to work out all the bugs it may have. One cool feature they already added in the firmware update 1.4 is that it now can work as a fully functional filament drying unit. Why I'm guessing we see all glass?
The Bambus have this as well. Which it works fine but your printer can’t be used so I’d recommend spending $50 on a filament dryer. That’s my personal opinion. And smart! Let other people work out the bugs first lol
@@TwoMooseToo Cool so the Bambu as well has the menu option to select the filament type you want to dry? But yes, my first printer I looked at only the 1 year views to find the best printer still standing and why I picked the X-Plus that is still working to this day (but damn I hate not having auto leveling!)
Yep you our the spool inside of the printer and it warms the bed to dry it. Auto leveling is a must at this point lol
Where is the next video?
Working on it, I’ve been busy and qidi had an issue so I was waiting to see how they would handle it.
Good job, but you should check, if you have the same loose Bearing Problem as others have been having (that could be causing those Z-Artefacts). ;) But the Printer looks very interesting.
I’ll have to check that out! I try not to watch others videos until I make my review but I’ll definitely look into that! It’s definitely seems like a good printer just need to learn it’s quirks. Thanks for watching!
That Z seam looks nasty. Please update if you solve it.
Yeah I’ll definitely have to do some tuning . I’ll make an update video in a few weeks after I get some time into it
Thanks for watching!
I really want to see a comparison of the Plus 4 vs the P1S. Can you hook a brother up? I love your "comment from the hip" honesty. Thanks!
For sure! Once I finish this 2nd review on this printer I’ll do that. I also have a K2 coming so might be a month or so
Some people say printing with this printer is like Qiding.
😆
Only thing I care about is how easy to clean the extruder gears.
Very nice printer, but Bambu's AMS and it's software ecosystem won me over.
I have 3 I love my Bambu printers as well
Who needs manuals anyway we force it till it fits 😊
😆😆 I like to live life on the edge.
after 2 hours and 3rd print from the preloaded 3d-files ... mine bricked ... wtf
Yeah I’d definitely complain and get a new one
@@TwoMooseToo ye, they better or I go on a war path ...
I've ordered one
I’m sure you’ll love it
It's a nice looking printer at a good price point, but the P1S is at the same price point and delivers superior user experience and print quality. Shouldn't have to manually download updates to a thumb drive to get it to work. Should definitely come with a 2nd nozzle. Should just work with Orca slicer. Should just work out of the box. These companies keep trying to come out with their own skinned slicers, but they're never really good enough, and making it so the printer only wants to work with the limited/malfunctioning skinned proprietary slicer is a serious turn-off for potential buyers.
If I was on the Qidi development team, I'd be telling them to ditch the skinned slicer and just make it work with Orca, and to perfect the machine to the point it just works out of the box, like Bambu. Literally, follow Bambu's business and production template. Then Qidi would really be taking sales away from Bambu, because the Qidi has a larger build plate, which is probably the biggest single complaint from Bambu users.
I won't say nobody wants their 3D printing hobby to be about spending a huge amount of time messing around with the printer just to try to get it to work right. Those people are definitely out there. But I feel like they're dwindling in number compared to the people who just want to be able to print stuff reliably. That's really where Bambu succeeds compared to everyone else, that and support and depth of aftermarket supplies.
Update failed here too . Keeps halting at 33%. Didn't even want to start up at one time 😮 for now everything working super fine.
My benchy is probably one of the best i have ever seen. So maybe its bad filament 🎉 (ps my filament was on a shelf for 5 months out of box and bag) honestly your benchy looks like crap...😮
Yeah mine would freeze at 33% then the manual update worked right away. Yeah the benchy was not the best. I’ll check the belts and everything make sure all that’s good. Someone else mentioned others had some bearing issues?
Auto update over the wire doesn't work properly prior to the v1.4 firmware version. Need to usual manual update instead. Once 1.4 is installed, Qidi states that future updates will work over the wire.
QIDI solved the problem of the printer shutting down due to overheating?
I’m not sure, mine never had that issue. I did update the printer yesterday and it said something about the heater fix.
@@TwoMooseToo So it looks like it was (but was 😉) a software problem. Thanks for the information.
Seam gap Must be set to 10% from 15%.
I’ll check that out! Thanks for the tip
I settled on 9% myself
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this is the potential bearing issue, I just got mine setup a few days ago and its working awsome, i really want orca slicer working as well so I can moniter the printer, I tried to get mine working but I need to fix orca slicer throwing errors for qidi's custom gcode macros...
Someone in the comments mentioned the latest version of orca had the profile for the printer. I haven’t confirmed this yet as when I made the video I didn’t see it. Thanks for tagging the video I’ll definitely check this out
They do not ship the orders , but only takes your money
That doesn’t sound right
The Branchy Looks not good. Its not good sliced by default
Received mine 2 days ago and it has not printed anything. I updated the firmware and heat bed will not work, it shuts the whole system down. I believe the power supply is faulty, not surprised, just buy the Bambu Labs!
Ohhhhh no good! I’d just return it and get a fresh one than trying to trouble shoot. Sounds like you got a dud. I have 3 Bambus and they have been great.
Did you check the voltage switch on the bottom? Set it to 110/120
Check the 110/220V power supply switch. It's likely that it's in the wrong position for you.
my printer arrived ...did not work....nozzle temp never stopped increasing...shut it down at 390C.....then QIDI sends me computer boards as if I freaking know how to building the print head...and then after hours of figuring it out, the damn Allen screws then installed at factory were stripped....ended up snapping off the plastic where it attached...and and cant get the dang camera to work...this printer has been a a huge disappointment
Sorry to hear that! Sounds like some bad luck, I’d try an send it back if possible
With Bambu you dont have to TUNE anything it just does it.
Yeah my Bambus work pretty dang good with pretty much everything I throw at them
Updates should just update. Shouldn't have to fail three times and do it manually. Sounds shitty to me.
Agreed. The last printer I had was the same way. I don’t know why but after the manual update I could do them all via WiFi. I think it more so has to do with companies rushing products to market and they don’t get all the software ironed out but I have no actual idea
@@TwoMooseToo Qidi has instructions in the official store: Firmware versions prior to V1.4.0 need to be updated offline, V1.4.0 Version and later versions can be updated online.
The very first update has to be done by USB. Every update after that will be OTA. This is also only a problem for the very first batch of printers. Chill.
Bambu Labs was basically the reigning champion. After all other printer companies got knocked down in the 3rd-5th round, Bambu has been celebrating 🙌. Unbeknownst to Bambu, it’s now round 15 & Qidi just got back up while Bambu has been too distracted by the fanboy crowd. Qidi just knocked Bambu out, but it was so swift, they don’t know what hit them yet. The shockwave hasn’t been felt yet. With Bambu’s invasive network plugin, this just did them in.
and we the consumer will win the fight 😂
Owning a P1S and having seen dozens of the reviews of this Plus4, I don't think Qidi is playing at the same level of QA. Overall it's a nice offering for the price, but the problems with the linear bearings, several people having problems with the firmware upgrade and some other issues (some indeed solved with a manual firmware upgrade), just put it at a lower quality level than Bambu. And then there is the 24v bed ... Why? Especially since they did use an AC bed before ... But more important in my eyes is that also Qidi is one of those companies rotating their printer offerings at least every year. That"s needed for them to catch up, but if they keep on doing that, it also means buyers will quickly be out in the cold as the printer they bought will barely be supported in a year from now and the community around each type will be limited because it always gets superseded by the next generation.
Everything you just said was wrong lol BL will be just fine every single electronic device on earth is more intrusive than a printer if you actually cared about your security you wouldn’t be watching this lol
nope...my Qidi has been a complete wreck.....go read my earlier post.....my Bambu has been working for over 2000 hours of printing so far....my Qidi did even work out of the box....have had to replace extruder, hot end, two computer boards and still cant get it working correctly.....
@@Nightmarehc130which qidi model was that? Was it the new 4plus?
Thats a grade A? wtf
Grade ehhhhhh 😆
Never got unboxing videos. who cares about the packaging. Tell me how it is after 10 real world prints.
Yep, working on it.
The only thing I hate about their printers is their build surfaces are completely different than every other printer so you have no other choice but to pay their prices for their build plate, lol proprietary build plate
Oh don’t worry they’ll all have proprietary build plates and nozzles eventually 😆 unfortunately that’s how it works
@@TwoMooseToo it will only happen if we let it happen, but people are going to buy what they want to buy or what they think is the best for what they want, and we have no control over it unfortunately...
This isn't true though. There are multiple options that fit the Plus4 bed.
@@802Garage so point them out, or better yet make a video so everybody else can know this information
@@NoMercyFtw Literally any build plate that is 310X310. Examples: Energetic, BIQU, OSEQ, KDEAVI, even the K1 Max build plate would likely fit given it is 310 wide.
More garbage from Chitty.
Printer is fantastic. Most people on the Discord, in the comments, and I are really enjoying it. Precision and quality are great. A few teething issues, but nothing huge. Extremely capable printer for the money.
Hardly..
I definitely wouldn’t classify it as garbage. I follow the facebook group and overall people seem to be liking them. Personally I haven’t spent much time with it but I’ve definitely had way worse printers out of the box.
If it wasn't for "Chitty", your life wouldn't be as grand as it is now. The Plus 4 isn't perfect, but for a sub $1k printer, it's great at what it does. I've been 3D printing for over 20 years and I thank Chitty on the regular for pushing things forward. After all, that's the entire theory of capitalist economics isn't it?
@@802Garagemilions of fly's eat sh$#t it doesn't mean that whole world should even taste it.. one day u wake up and whole your country will bebuyed by Chinese, worst is that you give them money on that in exchange on garbage, meanwhile people in your own country lose jobs,.. and people like you think why that corporation close job places in your country and they go to China xD...