The Ryuji Goda Conspiracy

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  • @chuck1162
    @chuck1162 8 місяців тому +147

    RGG have always obviously regretted killing off some characters, with Ryuji being the most obvious one. I think they also regret killing Mine given Richardson’s inexplicable survival and Mine having a major role in Ishin’s story along with him being one of the only characters in original Ishin not to be from Yakuza 5.

    • @animegamingnerd
      @animegamingnerd 8 місяців тому +32

      I find it interesting how Ishin made Mine a trio with Majima and Saejima. Which kinda gives us a glimpse that had Mine survive, he would have stand along side Majima and Saejima as the Tojo's top captains and Daigo's most loyal men.

    • @Shqlockx
      @Shqlockx 8 місяців тому +14

      I think it's also worth noting how before Mine jumps in 3, he tells Kiryu that he hopes to earn his respects in another life- which is exactly what happens between Ryoma and Hijikata in Ishin

  • @manukau5271
    @manukau5271 8 місяців тому +60

    Ryuji basically died the same way Kiryu “died” so I wouldn’t be surprised if a dragon comes back to life

    • @DarkkirbyKRPG
      @DarkkirbyKRPG 8 місяців тому +1

      The problem with Ryuji is that Kaoru is clearly bringing flowers to his grave in the game's ending (either that or her dad's, but considering the timing I assume the intend is for Ryuji). Plus I'm sure Kiryu and Kaoru didn't just leave his body there.
      It's the same reason why him being alive in Dead Souls makes no sense. Kiryu, Kaoru, Haruka, Date and the other police guy (forgot his name) were all there to witness his death and to recover the body. Even if they for some reason left it at the top of Kamurocho Hills, he would bleed out and actually die.

    • @manukau5271
      @manukau5271 8 місяців тому

      @@DarkkirbyKRPG same with Kiryu

    • @LennoxParsec
      @LennoxParsec 4 місяці тому

      @@DarkkirbyKRPG Ryuji and Kiryu are both taken to the hospital due to their wounds, them being literally the same wounds. Kiryu gets better, Ryuji stays in comatose state for the time being, Omi alliance makes up a story about him disappearing because declaring the Golden Dragon in coma would be humilliating for him.
      Hell, perhaps even he's translated to a hospital in America and that's the real reason why Kaoru leaved, to take care of his brother away from the yakuza life.

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 8 місяців тому +23

    Nobody in RGG really dies... They just end up running a karaoke bar somewhere.
    Also, as of 8, I believe that Dead Souls (as well as Ishin and Kenzan) are just weird dreams that Kiryu had.

  • @ajdean7559
    @ajdean7559 8 місяців тому +15

    The end of IW still kinda open with Kiryu probably take serious treatment, so there still some possible that IW may not be Kiryu's last game like Y6.
    Also, there was someone very close connected both Kiryu & Ryuji also come back in IW as well. I guess this shouldn't be written like some kind of puzzle if we already familiar with Y2, so yeah I want to mention Kaoru. While there still no conclude for their relationship in IW (her Lifelink end kinda abruptly) but we know she still faithful with Kiryu after more 17 years at this point, even to the point after his "death" in Y6 and after Dissolution in Y:LaD she transfer to Juvenile division because of Kiryu (it's a unfamiliar division with Kaoru's speciality from what we known in Y2, just show how much her devotion for Kiryu). So in a way, if Yokoyama-san really serious to fulfil his intent about Kiryu & Kaoru in his concept about their road trip through 3 cities for Y3 (I guess we know which original idea for Ryuji's storyline in LaD:Online came from) before got cut due to Nagoshi wanted Y3 would be about orphanage; Ryuji can be involved in some way of "the brother-in-law and his sister's lover" dynamic and maybe will have friendly "talk" with Kiryu instead "only one dragon" like before (if there was ninth main entry or spin-off like gaiden with idea plot actual serious about Kiryu & Kaoru with Ryuji's involvement as well).
    Also, there was very special information in Ryuji's memoir aside about Kiryu question he may be reappear right before his eyes. Kiryu actually confirm Ryuji was his most powerful opponent ( this was in original Japanese context as well and not mistranslation or implied before Y2 event, so Ryuji canonically stronger Mine & Shishido or even Saejima & Majima) which kinda controversial in debate about characters strength discussion. So Ryuji return will be kind of chances to show his strength (maybe even more greater now if he still actually alive after more 17 years from Y2 event in 2006) which was missed with somebody when Y2 for them didn't show Ryuji as Kiryu toughest opponent in cutscenes.

  • @CJojo_13_
    @CJojo_13_ 8 місяців тому +59

    New RGG has the opposite problem of Old RGG.
    Instead of killing off so many characters without the buildup to make it feel like it matters (Yakuza 1 in particular), they keep bringing characters back to life when it's not justified.

    • @redbaronmars4176
      @redbaronmars4176 8 місяців тому +20

      Fr fr, there was no reason to bring back Andre, Lau ou Kashiwagi. It just makes older games seem pointless and/or bad. I could maybe understand Kashiwagi but the others is insane

    • @DavidHosey1
      @DavidHosey1 8 місяців тому +8

      @@redbaronmars4176Lau is substory so doesn’t matter
      Kashiwagi makes sense since there were literally first responders running to him seconds after he passed out
      Richardson is a Daidoji link, and people have been known to easily survive 40 story drops when they had the intent of ending their own lives. I think someone who has training and a team behind his recovery makes sense too

    • @TheExFatal
      @TheExFatal 8 місяців тому +5

      @@redbaronmars4176 I disagree on Kashiwagi, he was unceremoniously killed off in 3 to raise the stakes I guess and nothing else, and the payoff in 8 was totally worth it if you ask me. I still hope Mine is dead though.
      Lau is whatever to me, it's more of a dumb in-game meme tbh

    • @LennoxParsec
      @LennoxParsec 4 місяці тому

      @@redbaronmars4176 Andre, Lau and Kashiwagi are unrelevant characters in the modern story and could never bring anything to the table. Them being alive is not big deal and changes not too much of their story, just gives them an odd, kinda happy ending, despite Andre and Lau being pretty scummy villians.

  • @ne0space
    @ne0space 8 місяців тому +34

    I think Ryuji is dead but his corpse is still being paraded around by the ghost of Koji Shindo

  • @michaeldagadagn307
    @michaeldagadagn307 8 місяців тому +15

    My best guess is RGG studios wants to bring in a character that is iconic and presumed dead, was relatively young and now in the present day more experienced, and a good enough story for how they came back into the fold.
    Ryuji fits the bill since he also has a dragon tattoo and Sega has no plans to rerelease Yakuza Dead Souls any time soon. They could easily make a game work since they were testing the waters with Ryuji and Joon Gi Han for the mobile game. The hard part will be selling it to the western audience.

  • @zeroknight1311
    @zeroknight1311 8 місяців тому +35

    RGG killed him off in Yakuza 2 and regretted it. And as such, lead to his inclusion in Yakuza Dead Souls. As that game was already non canon and making it be a timeline where Ryuji survived makes sense. Of course, this does bring in the chances of more What If Games being made.
    Such as a game that has the premise of What if Nishiki never died? Personally I see this being him having been in a coma for a few years. And when he wakes up, Kiryu is already in Okinawa. So sometime just before or during Yakuza 3.

    • @DarkkirbyKRPG
      @DarkkirbyKRPG 8 місяців тому +1

      A bomb went off right in his freaking face. There's 0% chance of him "just being in a coma" out of that and if they did do that, they'd be jumping the shark quite hard.

    • @PooBoi_YT
      @PooBoi_YT 8 місяців тому +1

      Or simply make it so Nishiki doesn’t decide to off himself by making a bomb go off, and actually do his best to move Kiryu, Yumi and Haruka to safety, so he still takes damage but actually have a chance of survival, making it so a coma is more plausible. (As you can tell I think his death was stupid and pretty avoidable)

  • @noticarus3164
    @noticarus3164 8 місяців тому +16

    With Kiryu likely not being able to fight anymore in the next mainline game, I feel like they're gonna truly revive Ryuji now so he can take on Kiryu's dragon role and be Ichiban's new party member.

  • @samuraibeatzz
    @samuraibeatzz 8 місяців тому +2

    The way Ryuji gets mentioned a lot throughout Gaiden and a bit in 8 makes me believe he’s still out there. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s under the Daidouji umbrella for whatever reason too.

  • @infernalone666
    @infernalone666 8 місяців тому +8

    If lau can survive a bullet to the head and kashiwagi can survive an attack helicopter, goda survived three non-vital bullet hits. 'nuff said.

  • @cameronj174
    @cameronj174 8 місяців тому +16

    I’ll never understand RGG they bring back people like lau ka long and Andre Richardson but not people like mine or ryuji goda? Them bringing back Richardson annoyed me because it completely invalidates Mine’s sacrifice at the end of 3. RGG are smoking something very heavy.

    • @gianncmedina7805
      @gianncmedina7805 8 місяців тому +1

      I like to believe that they are both alive running their Bars Flying Kirin and Golden Dragon. Either that or they became Agent Joshitaka Jine and Agent Jyuji Joda

    • @LennoxParsec
      @LennoxParsec 4 місяці тому

      Because Andre and Lau being alive is pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things. They just work on a little shop in the corner of the map, nothing big going on with them.
      If the Golden Dragon or the Kirin were to be alive, the yakuza main plot would need to aknolage that. How's Ichiban gonna compete against Ryuji if the two are bring on a story? Just see what happen in Infinite Wealth with a dying Kiryu stealing the show.

  • @CheLovEkoShpRoT
    @CheLovEkoShpRoT 8 місяців тому +10

    i dont think that rggs even thought about killing Ryuji in the first place
    we never see the body, no one is talking about it, Kaoru never mentions it either
    after the fact that ruff man is alive we can expect both Shimano and Kazama to come back lmao

  • @Gouda992
    @Gouda992 8 місяців тому +11

    Honestly when I first played yakuza 2 I didn’t even realize he died, I thought he past out, whats even more confusing is how Kiryu suffered the same bullet wounds in the exact same areas yet was totally fine, they even acknowledge it. For some reason rgg keeps bringing back characters that were obviously dead yet the character with the most ambiguous death remains supposedly dead

    • @JellyJman
      @JellyJman 8 місяців тому

      Me too lol at first I thought he just lived but I guess not?

  • @PokeHeadroom
    @PokeHeadroom 8 місяців тому +11

    i think he wants to be dead, dead souls is probably a very iffy thing to cite as a source but i think that protrayal of the character could hold some hints as to where he mightve gone too after surviving 2 if he really did survive i think he just wants to be somewhere left alone and outside of yakuza affairs kind of like kiryu but with the exception that hes better at hiding lole

  • @norharafie5739
    @norharafie5739 8 місяців тому +4

    Ryuji probably relocated with Kaoru to America. Evading both the Omi, Jingweon and even Tojo clan revanchism. Hes Jingweon connection makes it too difficult for him to stay in Asia.

  • @Sussylizzy92
    @Sussylizzy92 8 місяців тому +8

    I think it's quite definitely plausible Ryuji could have survived, however were that the case (with the current timeline) Ryuji likely went into hiding or left Japan, as if he stuck around, the Omi alliance likely would have wanted him dead for failing in 2, or wanted him to be their leader after his father passed. Either way Ryuji likely has good reasons for not resurfacing.

    • @muhammadaliffbinmuhammadla7846
      @muhammadaliffbinmuhammadla7846 8 місяців тому +2

      The Jingweon were also looking for him as he mentioned during the cutscene before the final fight. So he definitely need to go to hiding somewhere else, probably went together with Kaoru to America.

  • @colfdralegend
    @colfdralegend 8 місяців тому +27

    It’s funny seeing people talk about Ryuji the way characters talk about Kiryu. “A couple of bullets wouldn’t have killed him.”
    But nah, he’s dead

    • @CPhelps1247
      @CPhelps1247 8 місяців тому +5

      He literally isn’t

    • @colfdralegend
      @colfdralegend 8 місяців тому

      @@CPhelps1247 literally? Haven’t seen him yet lol

  • @TanniMachine
    @TanniMachine 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video, but you spoke on how Kiryu didn't recognize Richardson. When Kiryu introduces Richardson to Ichiban, Kiryu calls Revolve his "usual haunt," implying that Kiryu has been here multiple times before. So their reunion (and Kiryu recognizing Richardson) most likely happened off screen, and probably went similarly to how he reacted when he met Kashiwagi.

  • @uriel7395
    @uriel7395 8 місяців тому +3

    Ryuji's one of my favorite characters in the series and I really hope he doesn't get brought back to life, but I'd be down for a spin that takes place before 2 where we get to play as him. Mine sucked though so it'd be hilarious to have him as a bartender in Yakuza 9

  • @Dom50525
    @Dom50525 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm down for a Ryuji Gaiden game.

  • @kiemacncheese6855
    @kiemacncheese6855 8 місяців тому +1

    imagine ryuji takes kiryus brawler gameplay

  • @MrLorenzo808
    @MrLorenzo808 8 місяців тому +2

    I think there was a line in infinite wealth that said something about dragons never really dying

    • @winniethechelli
      @winniethechelli 8 місяців тому +5

      Kiryu said something about Ryuji in RGG IW, that "he wouldn't be surprised" if the man comes out from the dead anytime. I think he will.

  • @NullVoid-rm7jm
    @NullVoid-rm7jm 2 місяці тому

    Literally every other character that's died has come back to life so I won't be surprised when Ryuji comes back in Like a Dragon 9 or 10

  • @snxffys6436
    @snxffys6436 3 місяці тому +1

    nishiki is the only one they can’t bring back. but who knows

  • @maman7802
    @maman7802 8 місяців тому +9

    I just remember something's funny
    In after credit scene, Kaoru just bought 2 bucket flowers, and i assume that is for her father, and ryuji's father (or maybe Terada)
    Sorry if my English is bad

  • @VroonGrimblo
    @VroonGrimblo 8 місяців тому +1

    The guy running revolve bar could just be somone who looks like Richardson, or Richardson survived. Personally i think he survived. How? 2 words: rubber concrete.

  • @catbread7239
    @catbread7239 8 місяців тому +1

    Waiting for the return of Ryuji... IM SURE HE'S OUT THERE (Great video btw!!)

  • @818Kira
    @818Kira 8 місяців тому +1

    Dead Souls is kinda canon in the series, if you find the Dead Souls poster in Infinite Wealth Kiryu says it was a weird dream he had that stuck with him for the rest of his life lol

  • @nocturnepilled
    @nocturnepilled 8 місяців тому +1

    Ultimately, I am a Ryuji Goda truther because he is my absolute favorite character in the series. I think he's more complex than what most people give him credit for and is an interesting character to explore. Plus, I find the narrative of 2 does him a bit dirty... The plot of that game is insanely xenophobic towards Korean people, and I'll never forget how one of his justifications for him finding an early death is he had "too much Jingweon blood" in him. Yikes. Not to mention how Kaoru and Kiryu makeout while his supposed corpse is 2 feet away (conveniently offscreen HOWEVER). He doesn't even get a name drop from Kaoru when she Kiryu, and Haruka visit the cemetery at the end. Or in the intro to 3. Or in the Life Link in Infinite Wealth either.
    However, I have mixed feelings on him coming back because it is something that RGG studios can fumble really easily. I feel like them resurrecting Kashiwagi worked because his death in 3 was complete bull. Richardson and Lau Ka Long being resurrected... feels kinda cheeky on their part. Especially Richardson since Infinite Wealth takes place in Hawaii and he's the like only notable American character in the series lmao - kinda like they were like "ugh we need to create an American character - wait a second!" Ryuji however.... Explaining how he survived the events of 2 will be super easy (the fans have already done it lol) but, he's been gone for so long and especially with everything that has happened with the Tojo and Omi in recent games, they would need to have a VERY good explanation for why he is just now getting involved.
    I am extremely interested in what a turn-based boss battle with him would be like though...

  • @liamm1945
    @liamm1945 4 місяці тому

    As said I’m 0, there can only be one dragon, but with kiryu being out of commission it is very likely that a new one could come

  • @livenishikireaction
    @livenishikireaction 8 місяців тому +3

    *_HONMANA-KA?_*

  • @Dylanthegreat2008
    @Dylanthegreat2008 8 місяців тому

    Talking about the end of yakuza 3
    (Spoiled food)
    Rubber floor.

  • @HjorrStrong-Steel
    @HjorrStrong-Steel 5 місяців тому

    Well, Richardson musta used some CIA shit to survive.

  • @JellyJman
    @JellyJman 8 місяців тому

    If he shows up in 9 he might end up being a foil for Ichiban since he’s also a dragon

  • @BinjiBalls
    @BinjiBalls 8 місяців тому +1

    Personally, I think Ryuji is alive, kinnnddaaa.
    I think he's more likely he's alive then dead at this point with all of the different evidence, and now that Kiryu is most likely going to be a mentor figure for Ichiban now and not in the spotlight as much anymore and while Infinite Wealth would also have been an almost perfect fit for Ryuji to make his at long last reappearance, why would he want to? I mean, think about it. In Dead Souls, Ryuji barely even cares, if at all at the fact he lost to Kiryu, I almost felt like he was satisfised working a normal life rather than a massive, thought of, and most importantly feared Yakuza.
    I also think it's just possible that Yakuza 9 could somehow have a major part of the plot where Kiryu is getting multiple hits on him from former Go-ryu clan members after finding out their former patriarch is still alive, even ignoring Ryuji's own respect towards Kiryu. I think that would be a good way to not only bring Ryuji back without having to explain why he never showed up in any pervious games after Yakuza 2, but also a good way to reuse the plot of Dead Souls in a mainline entry but, you know, without the zombies, and keep Kiryu in the backseat, not putting him into the hospital but due to his age, he can't fight people with as vast of an arsenal anymore in his age, as this new and deadlier Go-ryu clan, without having the restrictions of Ryuji's code of honor behind them, they can be as brutal and cruel as they want now, like the groups in Infinite Wealth.
    Put it shortly, I think with the evidence, Ryuji's chances are about a rough 60/100.

  • @Synthpopper
    @Synthpopper 8 місяців тому +1

    I wish we could've gotten the LAD mobile game localised but on PC with PC graphics. I don't need Ryuji or Mine to be alive but I'd like more stories with these characters. I also think later Yakuza games would've extremely benefitted from having an arsenal of legacy villains to soup up the narrative because Yakuza 4-6 can get very stale and repetitive at times. I also don't see why they picked Wagi (this one is justified) and Richardson of all people to revive but not someone actually important. But honestly we're probably only a few years out from Gaiden Ryuji: Rubber Bullets

  • @anotherunreliablenarrator
    @anotherunreliablenarrator 3 місяці тому

    My hopeful theory is that the old rumors of the Ryuji game are true and could lead to a game where Shishido is forced to hunt him down by the Daidoji given the rumors of his survival throughout Kansai, only for the pair to team up and destroy them, it being the brawler counterpart to the main series release of its time since Judgement is kinda in a weird spot. A man could dream.
    EDIT; There's also the fact that his ghost never showed up in 6 like Nishiki's, Reina's, and the others. The RGG devs actually got into an argument over weather he was dead or not once. I personally think he's alive, there's been so much foreshadowing and he's a character who's arc wouldn't be ruined if he came back unlike Nishiki or Mine. That's just me though.

  • @JellyJman
    @JellyJman 8 місяців тому

    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he shows in 9

  • @Mechazoid5116
    @Mechazoid5116 8 місяців тому +1

    Its more so they are retconning 3 hard and my take away is kiwami 3 might be in the pipeline

  • @wise.m4a
    @wise.m4a 8 місяців тому

    i'm pretty sure they'll find a way to return him and even yoshitaka mine, there's no doubt in my mind.

  • @aidenj.1121
    @aidenj.1121 5 місяців тому

    I miss my babygirl (Ryuji)

  • @avito502
    @avito502 8 місяців тому

    DEAD SOULS MENTIONED 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @creaks3280
    @creaks3280 8 місяців тому +1

    Super Mario...

  • @Mike-ij4rq
    @Mike-ij4rq 8 місяців тому

    I want to believe…

  • @kyle185XD
    @kyle185XD 8 місяців тому

    Yeah gaiden and lad8 might be showing up cuz of the build up theyre making

  • @huff1271
    @huff1271 8 місяців тому +2

    Comment for engagement!

  • @fifofuko1864
    @fifofuko1864 8 місяців тому +2

    he's gonna get a gaiden and be in the next game. same shit.

  • @lasertaro
    @lasertaro 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the one with Kiryu, correct?

  • @blatant5914
    @blatant5914 8 місяців тому

    didnt the latest like a dragon game actually canonize the spinoff games like dead souls as one of kiryus weird dreams?
    like, not as a paralel timeline whatever

    • @darthsreepa2820
      @darthsreepa2820 8 місяців тому

      they in fact did canonise it. as a dream tho lmao

    • @blatant5914
      @blatant5914 8 місяців тому

      @@darthsreepa2820 yeah thats what i asked

    • @darthsreepa2820
      @darthsreepa2820 8 місяців тому

      @@blatant5914 ohh nvm ig i read the original comment wrong then sry!!

  • @MrHarperMD
    @MrHarperMD 8 місяців тому +1

    I think Ryuji is dead but its the current year ans they can't keep any one character dead, they gotta dig their grave and make their death meaningless for 'infinite wealth'

  • @GamePulseMemes
    @GamePulseMemes 4 місяці тому

    9:42 sus🤨🤨