The Trials And Tribulations Of A Full Time Driver From Cleveland
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- Sergio interviews David, a Cleveland driver who has a few crazy stories from the road as a rideshare driver and how the drivers are the face of Uber.
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There is a reason on why Taxis and black car service need to charge what they charge. Your car has a finite life and eventually it needs to be replaced. Depreciation is the larget expense that is overlooked by drivers.
All cars depreciate.
Report them with the Labor Department and National Labor association Board there not supposed to be falsely deactivating drivers specially if thosr drivers have more then 90 days working full time for them and also report them for stealing wages, tips, tolls and adding extra taxes to 1099s.
Congrats on your success. Shirt looks good. My friend Neal made shirts for him and bought me too. I think it's a good thing, but I don't wear them everyday I drive.
I live outside of Cleveland, have to be brave to work in CLE, but I know the money is better if you want to work in the hood or risk your life on a daily basis. I don't do that because I can make money getting people where no one else wants to go outside of CLE. I give this guy points for being in CLE.
I started in 2019 and the pay rate sucked then. The only thing that made it worth while was the surge and the post pandemic Quests.
Great story from David
Let's get together collect money get our app
I have been driving for 6 years, and the pay always sucked. You always hear how much better it was when a driver first started. It dont matter how long it has been 1 year or 10 years.
Almost all these companies pay the newbies better.. Instacart, Spark etc.
They offer 'incentives or promotions' to the newbies that the regulars dont see.. For ex with instacart, some people will see an order as 10$ while others will see it as 15$.. (should be illegal in my opinion, paying someone else more or less for the same job for ANY reason is discrimination and a violation of the 1963 EPA, Equal Pay Act, in my eyes) but i guess we're contractors, and laws dont matter to us, so bend over right?
..Instacart also got busted showing the lower ranked drivers orders 10-15 seconds before the perfect 5.0 drivers would see them.. I noticed it too.. Standing in the middle of the most popular store with a blank screen for hours while I see a bunch of new smiling faces pushing carts full of orders..
We, 'perfect shoppers', had to beg customers at one point to give us bad ratings so we could see more orders..
..Its purposely designed to force out the older drivers who know what they're doing. They want the never ending revolving door of newer drivers who have no clue..
They get you hooked like a drug dealer to keep you coming back, but then they start slowly taking it away cause they know you got no where else to go.. you keep hoping it will 'turn around' but it never does.. you give it another year or whatever out of desperation until you need a new set of tires, or your transmission falls out and next thing you know you're living in your car with just barely enough to survive.. (i've actually considered living in my car just so i can have a chance to save 'something').. while the CEO's of these companies are oddly the fastest growing Billionaires on the Planet somehow..??
Its Wash and repeat, with humans.
I just want a full transparency law. Show every customer exactly what they're paying vs what the contractor receives.. so they can either tip accordingly or at-least feel bad about it.. or better yet take the companies to task about paying a fair wage..? (but of course that wont happen cause it'll expose the scam).
You must be a masochistic
Are these people calculating the hourly before or after the Uber fees
This allowed me to write & publish my first Novel 6 more structured and in the works. 8 outlined 14 total for the series
That's awesome and congrats! How'd you get published and who did you go through?! I've been looking for a reliable self publishing company that isn't a scam that will help me become three paid author I desire to be!
Congrats on being a published writer. I wrote my book, "Driving On The Sunny Side With 10,000 Strangers," dedicated to my riders. I sell the book in my car and it's on Amazon. It's a record of my incredible journey driving during the day. Keep writing!
It’s a plan C or D.
A temporary floating situation get on to better something in which experience matters and skills are rewarded. Only the platform and shareholder benefit now.
As for a car I’d avoid sacrificing a decent machine. Its bare bones a to b transit only no one cares make it thrifty clean already depreciated in other words a $3-6000 machine. Perform most of your own maintenance and repairs. Dont know much about cars be prepared to either pay mechanics or eat major depreciation.
Yeah I basically spent $30k on a new corolla. I only made 36k last year on 25k miles, still owed the IRS $1,300.. The car is now worth around $20k, so 10k in depreciation.. and avg rent is $1,900 where I live too (i dont pay that, i couldnt, id be living in my car or forced to move at that point).. so yea do the math.. most of us are working for our cars if you drive anything worth over $10k.. I cant imagine the poor suckers that got tricked into buying teslas
@@rogerwilco1777 I believe it is mainly renters dealing with far higher rent prices that is forcing far more people to drive. Furthermore, it's a doom loop. The rent is high so it is forcing drivers on the road, which causes driver rates to decrease, which leads to drivers driving more, which forces rates down even further. Furthermore, there is no freedom and flexibility since you can now only really make money during times of bonuses/surges, which are few and far between.
I love solo app! I’m refusing trash Uber eats. I can’t do rideshare with my car down for repairs but been doing instacart and Uber eats instead. I had one going to Fulton mo I refused bc no guarantees to get another delivery on way back plus less$1 a mile and too time consuming. I’m missing out on crap Lyft bonus bc I can’t drive my car and won’t be renting a car so food delivery it is very part time.
Heads up on the drug/alcohol lab testing on weekends. The labs are only open during business days. The only alternative is a hair follicle test that track chemicals back several months but it costs several hundred dollars and I doubt that Uber would pay for that.
I wish I could attach the screenshot of their message to me about the testing... it doesn't apply to all cases, it only applies to some that are reported in a "timely" matter and if the account is in risk of deactivation (I was already deactivated, though temporarily, at this point).
Ver batim (copied/pasted via email), per Uber's customer service rep, it states:
A message from Uber
Hi David,
We understand you’d like to know more about this report. However, we are unable to share further details about the investigation.
Controlled substance tests are not offered in response to all allegations of impairment. At this time, these tests are only offered if you are at risk of deactivation for a drug-related complaint and the complaint was received in a reasonable amount of time after the related trip was completed. If those conditions are not met then you will not be eligible for a controlled substances test.
Putting a hold on your account doesn't mean that we have already sided with whoever wrote the claim so we conduct our investigation thoroughly. We will be completing a full review in evaluatating the report.
We will notify you as soon as the hold on your account has been lifted. In the meantime, your account will be on hold for a minimum of 24 hours.
Thanks for your patience during this matter.
So... there you have it. THEY pick and choose what suspensions are chemically tested and we drivers DON'T have a right, apparently, to be tested for proof. It DOES NOT apply to alcohol related claims... just drugs as stated from their message. It all comes back to your service and the word of the passenger. A passenger claims, at any time, you were driving impaired... BOOM, instant deactivation and you have to wait for the almighty Uber to make a decision on your financial future. No proof... just whatever they choose to use as "evidence" to the fact or the contrary.
Your logo shirt does provide credibility. It brings to mind many pickups at military bases where I drive. If navigation is off by 50 feet, I'm at a security gate. Uniformed men with big guns hold my licence while they stop traffic and get me turned around. It's not an unusual experience here.
The thing is that uber and lyft haven't consider this full time drivers who build thier company full time drivers shouldnt be quieting their Job at all what drivers should be doing reporting this companies for breaking all.labor laws if can't pay their full time drivers why do ykeep hiring more drivers
Wasn’t this guy on Caleb Hammers UA-cam I remember a guy like him that was talking about a weird codependent relationship with a roommate that’s diabetic
I have never been on Caleb Hammer's UA-cam. I have been told I have many doppelgangers though...
This guy is stuck. I’m just glad I am retired military and on Social Security. Uber money is play money.
Me too, retired military and on SS now. But you can make pretty good money with Uber if you know how. I’ve made $4-5k/month when driving about 40 hours a week. And that’s daytime only not even doing the rush hour surges or the higher bonus pay areas. But that’s a lot of time sitting in you car and driving. However I found it kinda fun and have never had any problem riders. Just stay in a nicer upscale area and usually there’s no problems.
Being of off for 36 hrs is a blessing.
The 36hrs of being forced not to drive can be nice, but not when there's big expenses pending, IRS penalties and a damn camera ticket for someone else borrowing my car and speeding. They claim they will give me the money for it, but they are in hard times financially... so that's doubtful. So I'm stuck with the 180 bill and that person lost the ability to use my car.
I very been driving uber for 8.5 yrs done 30k trips n no reward or bonus in Australia canberra
If pay sucks don't do it
11:04 I drive off you Gentille that’s a puttied environment to even linger at
Those days or long gone 😅 they cut all surges n quest and flood the market with drivers so now everyone work for less cause theres no shortage of driver ,They laying way less
Seems like a nice enough guy. He's grossing $34 and hour according to him. Doing better than 99% of drivers out there. I cant feel too bad for him that he only made $1000 one weekend instead of $1400 :)
So... I'm the driver in this interview and yeah... I do make 34/hr on average, but there are a number of days in the week where I'm between 30-25/hr. When you take the total amount of money made for the week and then divide that by the hours... it's an average of. However... when doing the math and the calculations AFTER my expenses... it comes to anywhere between 12/hr and maybe 16 IF I am lucky. So... while I might be doing better than most, that's because of my market, when I drive and the time spent driving. I put in 6 days and I tend to do around 40-67 hours in a week (at most), putting thousands of miles on the odometer and spending hundreds of dollars in oil changes, tires, brakes, rotors, and tens of thousands in gas. 26k in 2022 and about 21k in 2023 bc of how expensive gas was in '22. So sure... that number sounds great, but I assure you... doing what needs to be done to get that isn't! In order to keep that kind of income coming in for everything I have to pay for... I have to have high earnings to keep my life going. When you think of gas, let's say 475 or 500 for easy math... that thousand bucks is cut to 500 left over and then I still have bills and food and oh... gas for next week... then where does that money for gas come from? Credit cards, pulling from savings and so on... which only leads to further problems.
@@EndingBigotry You make better than most, but that just goes to show how bad it really is out there since you're making peanuts too, especially after factoring in the stress and danger. Studies show drivers net less than $6 per hour, which is a travesty. In my market, it would be impossible to net even close to $10 per hour if you were full-time, and rent is over $1,500 per month here for a one-bedroom apartment. Anyway, stay safe out there :).
Sue Uber 5 million dolars😊
Drivers not making squat, forget what this guy says, no driver making 30 anything an hour
Doing Uber destroyed your hip
My body destroyed my hip. I had to have it repaired once already and face a replacement I can't afford because I've doesn't pay enough to have insurance and so on. So I'm stuck in an endless cycle until I can become a trucker and an employee to have insurance again
@@EndingBigotry ok sorry to hear that
Innocent until proven guilty is in court of law. Not on a job.
Remember, this is not a job. We are 1099ers, self employed "business owners". Nothing is given to us to be able to perform the task of driving people around... we provide every bit of it and every cost associated.
@EndingBigotry except for the development team, the insurance for all the wrongful deaths, the app development team, then there's all the dealings with states and other nations, and the handling of the money and that system with those partners, and the advertisements to name a few. You're right we do it all.
@@JADED1620 Since moving to Cleveland, I have seen my risk go up exponentially. Where I came from... it was more awkward rides when people were intoxicated and frisky. Here in Cleveland... it has been more unwanted touching by passengers; grasping onto my arm while driving in a terrible snow storm and yanking on it while trying to drive; people threatening to kick my ass as they (a minor) didn't like I refused to give them a ride; a dude doing cocaine off the backseat of my vehicle; and an active fight from a bar that continued into my car as the passenger who was incredibly intoxicated was hitting his friend and opened the door to get out of the car while driving at high speeds twice on the freeway after pushing against the back of my seat jostling me a bit and could have caused me to get into an accident. Now this incident where my life was actually in jeopardy because of the potential of pepperspray being used inside my vehicle. Not to mention the two T-Bonings I have been hit in, the last one was at the beginning of the year, she hit and ran, no license plate so police couldn't do anything, leaving me with the repair bill and a massive concussion that took 2 weeks to get rid of and Uber only covered me for 5k in medical expenses... but even if I had a passenger in the car, 5k is what we get, while they get 1 million.
@@EndingBigotry Rideshare is a job, it's just not a W2 job is all. Sure, we are business owners (using that term real loosely here), but our job is still rideshare.