Chauchat Automatic Rifle 1915
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2017
- The French Chauchat model 1915 automatic rifle was the most common automatic weapon used by the Allies during World War 1. Over 262,000 were made, the majority chambered for the French Lebel 8x50 cartridge. When the American Expeditionary Forces arrived in France, they were issued with the Chauchat, firing the Lebel cartridge. Later attempts to re-chamber the Chauchat for the U.S. 30-06 cartridge failed mainly due to manufacturing errors.
Although the Chauchat magazine could hold 20 rounds, it was more reliable when loaded with a maximum of 18. Animation created using Cinema 4D. Music credits are shown at the end of the movie. - Наука та технологія
love that *CHOOM-CHOOM-CHOOM* firing sound from Forgotten Weapons' video, anyway it's an excellent video as always
It’s more like a *_CHK CHK CHK_* sound
*pew pew*
yes I'm not the only one who likes it, it's something different you know?
Thank you for the video, and shedding even more light on this highly misunderstood LMG. There is quite a bit more going on than I would have thought.
I believe my mother's father was issued a Model of 1918 in 30-06 when he was deployed to France with the AEF. When it jammed he tossed it away and picked up an Enfield.
Kelly Harbeson
No wonder, it was an American one.
The Otaku Comrade not so. The model of 1918 was made in France for a cartridge the French never used, hence the almost immediate failure
Kelly Harbeson
It was a French gun, _with american modifications_
French gun using 8mm lebel, used after by the americans but modified by them for using an other ammo.
French gun, French modified for American ammo. plus trench warfare is one of there messy warfare there is and having an open mag is just asking to gumed up, if the government did not pussyfoot with the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle the rep of the Chauchat would of been gone.
I'm still amazed at your animations. Just plain excellent.
so amazing animation, could watch this all day
Precisely done!
Your skill grows with every new video, my friend)
I got to say these are fantastic video! Great job!
Wonderful work! Congratulations, your videos are excellent!
Perfect video! Merci :-)
Anyone wanting more information, or who still believes the "Chauchat is the worst gun evar" myth should head over to Forgotten Weapons. Ian has an excellent series of videos, including range time with the infamous American built model. Spoiler alert, the hundred year old gun chugs on like a champ!
amazing video , good job.
The #1 most hated machine gun of all time.
Very awesome vids! Discovered you just today; keep it up!
What about the italian breda mg ?
This is the version converted for American ammunition which was poorly made. The Chauchat was in 1915 a good weapon developed hastily, it weighs only 8.7 kilos compared to 13 for the Lewis and 17.7 for the Maxim 08/15; therefore much more usable during an assault than the heavy machine guns of the time.
Wonderful video :)
The Chauchat was an automatic rifle, not a machine gun. If it was so bad, why with the evidence of over 150,000 Chauchats used in trench warfare over 3 years did the AEF generals ASK the French to supply them with Chauchats? If it was so useless, why did they take Lewis guns off the U.S. marines and issue them with Chauchats? If it was so bad why did the AEF ask the French to make them a version for the 30-06 cartridge? See wikimedia commons - Chauchat LMG for a picture of the U.S Chauchat. The Chauchat for the U.S. 30-06 turned out to be crap due to faulty machining, but the other 240,000 Chauchats for the 8mm Lebel cartridge were the best available automatic rifles available to French and AEF until the BAR arrived in July 1918. I recommend wikipedia for a well research article on the Chauchat.
The Sten gun of it's time. Cheap , works enough of the time, and we can build lots very quickly.
vbbsmyt Well I read in wikipedia that The Marines' Lewis were taken away from them due to a rivalry between a US military general and the guy who designed the Lewis
vbbsmyt it wasn’t the French version that was shit it was the US converted ones that were considered awful. They were poorly milled out for the 30-06 cartridge. The fat that it had only 20 rounds, was bulky and difficult to clean and repair if needed due to the fact that each one was individually made. Shall I go on? About the open mag, about the lack of rof? About the guns innacruate ness
Thanks for yet another high quality and educational video. It's also nice to see another of history's 'terrible weapons' having its poor reputation debunked and restored to a more factual and considered view in terms of effectiveness.
Great work as always.
Several things were wrong with the weapon. First many issued to US troops were worn out "cast offs" according to one WW-1 American Veteran. Next the open magazine allowed for all kinds of dirt, mud, and dust etc to jam it up. The idea of the open magazine was to allow the shooter to see how much ammunition was left. While a nice "drawing room" back in the rear idea, it had no practical use up front.
Hey dude, i love these xray videos you make on weapons, could you possibly do one on the MG42 or 34?
Отличая графика, четкая прорисовка деталей, все понятно и ясно. Спасибо. Лайк и подписка.
Music is really nice.
When one thinks about machine guns of that era, Chauchat was really innovative in many respects. Design was let down by lackluster production standards and a lousy magazine.
Спасибо!
Very interesting. This gun was produced 61 years before I was born.
Long Recoil is fascinating but looks quite over complicated for a machinegun use, with that slow of a sustained fire
watched forgotten weapons video about other youtubers and that how i found this channel. great work
yep they found the Chauchat a bit rude, but pretty efficient...
Awesome work man! How long do these animations take to make?
these videos are excellently made. I would love to see one on the c93 and AA12 combat shotgun
Max Wheaton There's already a C93 Borchardt pistol video.
Oh my bad, I ment the C96 mauser
You know when you shoud reconsider your design when something as simple as a feed ramp turns into a moving part.
I get the terminology mixed up sometimes, so would this be open bolt, long-recoil operated, rotating bolt locking?
Yes your are right ;)
God that recoil impulse must've felt so weird
nice pls upload more for me to watch my suggestion any ww1 bolt gun
Would it be possible, during WWII, to create a "crude" version of this gun?
Yikes so many misunderstood things in the comments. Especially on the 1918 AEF .30-06 version.
The .30-06 was barely more powerful than 8mm Lebel.
The .30-06 guns weren't conversions, but new manufacture guns made in a French factory, Gladiator to be precise. The issues were that only 1 or 2 of the factory lines actually had properly in spec chamber reamers or even knew how to use the type of reamer they had.
The biggest issues any version of this gun had was ammo quality and magazines. The French Magazines were mainly the way they were because the gun was designed for aircraft observers and not infantry. American magazines suffered due to the thin sheet steel used in their construction.
But the gun itself had potential. The production version was an aircraft gun prototype pressed into service. The Belgians actually converted their supply into a much better version. While it was considered second standard to the Belgian/FN version of the BAR, it was still in use during WW2.
Any chance we'll see the BAR next?
Doesn't the bolt lock back on an empty magazine? All shooting footage that I have seen seems to show this.
Could you please make a simulation of the mg42?
please tell me you made this video because c&rsinal are making video on this gun
Could you maybe do a vid on the mysterious revolver cannon, like the giat 30mm or maybe show us how the boors' 40 magically ejects shells out the back? If so, that would be awesome!
Zander Lang Do you mean the bofors?
yes
can you do a video on the M60
Awesme as always! I just don't get how does the empty casing get ejected?
There is a small piston in the bolt head which pushes the spent cartridge out once the cartridge has cleared the barrel. Best seen in the frames 1:34 to 1:56. Rob
Now I see, thanks! Keep doing this awesme work Rob.
Great video. Any chance we will see an Ak-47 video in the future?
He usually does Victorian era to ww1 era guns so probably not. Besides it's been done a billion times before, just search it an you'll find it
What do you use to make these? Thanks
Does the bolt head locking pin operate under weak spring pressure, like a retaining spring in a selector switch?
I'm not sure, but I know I would like find plans for one?
PLEASE MAKE.....
Fedorov Avtomat!!!
Far the most advanced WW1 weapon , was the real first assault rifle (such weapon is officialy called "heawy assaut rifle" ): but the Fedorov Avtomat use 6.5mm Arisaka less powerfull as the standard rifle ammo (but more powerfull as the ww2 Sturmgewehr...)
@@leneanderthalien Bullshit. The first assault rifle was the first one that worked reliably, and the Federov didn't
The Mr Red Arrow de Los Autotransportes De Grupo
This honestly seems like it would be good as a light aircraft MG, with a sturdy mount the recoil wouldn’t mean anything...
Only problem is the fire rate 😕
Sorry, but no. The Chauchat is an automatic rifle, not an MG and is totally unsuited for air warfare. During WW1 aircraft would have great difficulty in getting a target in their sights for more than a second or two, so aircraft MG needed to fire as rapidly as possible to maximise a chance of a hit (Vickers/Lewis about 15 rounds a second, Villa-Perosa about 25 per second). In addition, the Chauchat, firing from an open bolt, cannot be synchronised to fire through the propeller but would have to be mounted over the wing or operated by an observer. The 18 round magazine is also a drawback. The Lewis, for example used a 97 round magazine.
Who's idea was to put holes in the magazines it probably would've worked better without the holes
This is awesome! This is exactly what I'm interested in! Check out Forgotten Weapons latest vid he mentioned you and that's how I got here. You do amazing work!! I'm a CAD-CAM guy, I know nothing about animation software. If you use Cinema 4D then what software do you use to create the models if it isn't Cinema? Thanks, - Jacob S.
please animate the ironclads from the American Civil war the Merrimac and The Moniter
in wich software did you do theis kind of animations?
Cinema 4D
Pleas
make Colt 1911, it's classic and old
Tomek Dobry There's animations for it all over the internet.
but HIS animations are really good and i think i'll see much more and better on his animations
Неудивительно, что он был плохим оружием, с такой-то сложной системой огня!
This is what happens when you provide free wine at lunch to the Engineering Department. Vive la France!
It's actually a Browning design , from reminghton model 8
If only they made the Chauchat into a carbine.
A goddamn single stack magazine? jeez i know it's an early gun but come on double stack magazines existed already.
Were there double stack mag for machine gun in 1915??
Vickte W While i'm not quite sure if there were for rifle caliber machine guns but they did exist as early as 1884 for bolt action rifles, so the technology most certainly was available at the time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee%E2%80%93Metford
Why isn't the double stack design compatable with heavily tapered rimmed cartridges?
***** Rimlock is not a problem as long as you arrange the cartridges so that the rims of the ones which are higher are in front of the rims of those that are lower.
The background music?... PLEAAAS :)
Aria Haghighi It's in the text at the bottom of the screen at the end of the video.
It'd be really helpful if the artist or the source of the music was mentioned... and there's no such website as SidSonic.com
If you still wants to know, my music recognizer addon say it's "Army Brigade" by David Leblanc.
This weapon is famous because it continually jams.
MG-42
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The open side mag was OK for seeing how many rounds left but terrible for mud & dirt gumming up the works. Terrible for trench warfare. Our Marines in WW1 hated the weapon.
Your marines were issued a different type of magazines with no cut-out and a more straight mag.
Look up 1918 us chauchat
more world war guns please :) Especially russian guns ;)
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my god... ejecting in the forward bolt movement... 😱
It doesn't eject as the bolt's moving forward, it ejects as the barrel is moving forward, by the time the bolt travels back into battery the casing is already gone.
The fuck... That's the weirdest gun design i have ever seen
m1 garand
Не верю! Почему ни разу не заел?!))
If you think about it, the G3 is the spiritual successor to the chauchat. A sheet steel gun with terrible ergonomics that punches you in the face when you fire it.
How does the american version differ? besides the different magazine
I recommend the UA-cam video by Forgotten Weapons: Chauchat: Shooting, History and Tactics. It is excellent. Apparently, when the Chauchat was being re-chambered for the U.S. 30-06 cartridge, some of the manufacturing dimensions were wrong, particularly the reaming of the chamber. As a result, the 30-06 version of the Chauchat was a disaster. The French version, firing the Lebel 8mm cartridge was adequate. The open magazine gathered dirt in the trenches, causing stoppages. It is NOT a machine gun, more an automatic rifle, and offered considerably more firepower than the standard rifle.
I'm afraid not. The .30-06 round is not too disimilar from a 8mm Lebel round. Pressure wise they are quite close. The problem with the M1918 guns is as Vbbsmyt says the chamber dimensions were off. And the magazine was radically different - a box magazine not the normal half moon shape. Here's a great comparison photo: ww3.rediscov.com/springar/full/X806-SA.1.jpg Note also the repositioning of the forward grip.
Gotta love forgotten weapons. Thanks for the video!
Right then, My information was wrong, I just burned my old post. Thanks
“You know, with all due respect to our French allies, maybe they should stick to cooking.” R. Lee Ermey, Lock N’ Load episode Machine Guns
The Chauchat have a lot of problems, the magazine gets covered with mud and dirt in the trenches and it tends to jam easily.
R. Lee was a great guy but clearly was ignorant on some field of history, he argued that the tube fed of the lebel was prone to explode due to the spitzer bullet but he seems to not understand that 8mm lebel had a circular groove around the primer where the next bullet head will rest, making it impossible to strike the primer.
That looks complicated
unrealistic, it didnt jamed once
And you were there?
No it never jamed
Fwullie if it was an American gun (those are distinguished by the enclosed box magazines) that would have been true.
EDIT: when you dump like 15 mags down range with this gun, heat expansion will get the barrel stuck (which it’s motion is critical for the long-recoil operation). However the Lewis gun also has a similar problem with that volume of fire (though that tended to be when they were trying to use it in the role of a Vickers gun).
Basically the only reason it would only jam if their was mud in the ammo magazine. That is the reason it was so bad. It was the open magazine. Not the gun itself.
This was the most sluggish and unreliable weapon. Well nice music.
Only in 30.06 caliber, not with the original variant load with 8mm Lebel
All video waited, when there will be a jamming.
This is the French Chauchat firing the Lebel 8mm cartridge. If you want to see jams, look at the version made to fire the U.S. 30-06 cartridge.
@@vbbsmyt Why are you breaking my stereotypes? I was warm and comfortable with them. They just wanted to spread out, see the world, take over new territory.
The outside world is too cruel.
@@hereticalfencing2514 Oops, sorry.
@@vbbsmyt It's all right, they had to die sooner or later. Such is the fate of stereotypes.
Tak buleh tengok utiup
I clap for the guy who created a terrible machine gun. 👏
The original chauchat in 8mm lebel was fine. It was the convertion to .30-06 for use by american soldiers that was terrible.
Somehow I was wondering why. Even with 8mm Lebel as shown in some videos the gun could jam at any time, and I mean DEAD jam - either getting it done or fixing it on the battlefield would got you killed, 100%.
Apart from the dirt that may stuck on the gun's mechanism (open mag' showing how many ammo left also got the ammo dirty, you know, trench warfare), I strongly feel that the gun extracting mechanism wasn't good. All the failure I've seen were all the spent cases getting stuck in the gun.
The american-made guns sucked ass, not the French.
TheOtakuComrade both do tbh
I re-checked it bros. It was truly the extraction problem due to the weak force and a little high extracting space. To counter this shit, the French gave a manual which stated out the best position to fire the ChauChat from. Probably American fellows at that time knew nothing about it, kept on using it the wrong way and the gun got a bad reputation. By that, I believe 30.06 version of the gun would fire perfectly if it was used correctly.
Check out the ChauChat video by *forgottenweapon*, he pointed this out and even fired the gun with NO malfunction at all.
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Primitive weapon n not realible. Now just history n collection
Дьявольски переусложнённая конструкция. Так и вижу, как её автор вместо "дай мне ложку" говорит: "прошу, передай мне предмет для сбора и транспортировки пищи из тарелки ко рту".
Самый уродливый и ненадёжный пулемёт в истории.А скорострельность-смех!Откат подвижных частей как у небольшого орудия-огромный!
Worst machinegun of WW1.
The Sten is a bad gun, it was made in a dire situation and for it's ease of manufacture, not for it's reliability. So just like Chauchat it's only good enough to work that means that indeed just like the Sten is the worst submachine gun of WWII the Chauchat is the worst machine gun of WWI.
Colonel Thyran Gurl-44 is best smg!
Its not supposed to be a machine gun or even to be used like one .
The Chauchat isn't a machine gun, but a automatic rifle: not forgott that this rifle weight only 8.7kg fully loaded... a Lewis for example weight twice...Even the BAR was heawyer!!! It was much better, but cames too late to be use in combat (delivered in small number 2 months before end of the war...)
Der Volksfreund What about the Benét Mercié?
The worst light machine gun
I disagree. Firstly, it is not a light machine gun but an automatic rifle. Secondly, during the 4 years of the first world war, nearly 250,000 of these guns were made, more than any other automatic gun on either side. Cheap and cheerful they may be, but you do not continue building a crap gun when your life depends upon it. They were, in fact, the best (and only?) automatic rifle used by the Allies for most of the war - the BAR ( a much better solution) only saw action during the last 2 months of the war. When the AEF eventually arrived in Europe, they asked for and got Chauchat automatic rifles. The problem was the AEF wanted to modify the Chauchat to fire the U.S. 30-06 cartridge rather than the French 8mm Lebel (used successfully for the past 3.5 years in trench warfare). Bad machining resulted in the U.S. version frequently jamming, which resulted in the U.S. view that the Chauchats were bad guns. Since the U.S. wrote the definitive books on machine guns, this myth has become widespread - but it should only apply to those (18,000 or there abouts) chambered for the U.S. Cartridge. The guns firing the Lebel cartridge were satisfactory.
Make it look as cool as you want, it is still one of the shiteist guns ever made
Самый уродливый и ненадежный пулемет 20-ого века!!! Французы,pardonne moi-ничего личного! Пока Chauchat сделает один выстрел,MG-42 израсходует пол ленты.У француза очень много задержек.Откат подвижных частей как у орудия)
You know when you shoud reconsider your design when something as simple as a feed ramp turns into a moving part.