Schwarzlose machine gun 1912
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2017
- The Schwarzlose machine gun was used by the Austro-Hungarian armies during WWI. To avoid Hiram Maxim’s multiple patents on machine gun mechanisms, the Schwarzlose uses a delayed-blowback mechanism. The breech is not locked to the barrel when the cartridge is fired, and so the breech and cartridge are blown to the rear as the bullet accelerates out of the barrel. To restrict the rearward movement of the breech until the bullet has exited to barrel, the Schwarzlose uses a series of levers arranged so that a small movement of the breech causes a much larger movement compressing the mainspring. The breech and levers are relatively heavy, so increasing the inertia to initial movement. However, as the cartridge has to start moving while there is still pressure in the barrel, a small amount of oil is squirted on each cartridge during loading.
The version shown in the animation uses the 8x50mm Mannlicher cartridge, and reaches a maximum of 480 rounds per minute. - Наука та технологія
To everyone who asks me to do an animation of their favourite gun. Four points:
(1). I need a good set of drawings - engineering drawings showing the mechanism and
internals, both plan and elevation. User manuals (any language) are also needed.
If you want an animation, send me the drawings or a link. Then perhaps...
(2) I need to be able to examine, and preferably dismantle, an example gun since
drawings do not show everything. There are few places in the UK where this is
possible (but I have my contacts).
(3) I am really only interested in mechanisms up to the end of WW1 (say up to 1919).
After that they often become too complicated.
(4) I have a long list of guns I would like to model, and am only one person.
If someone is prepared to offer money, then that request could go to the top of the
priority list.
Thank you for watching. Rob
Mg42
@Chris_Wooden_Eye he can look it up on a website okay how about he goes to do something easy like a matchlock musket and yes the components are actually quite easy he can look it up on Google images are the components and if I have to put it on Instagram or something I'm going to skip that part because I don't do social media
@@lindajohnston3225 and yeah fuck you
@@lindajohnston3225 ?? Yeah that one, think it requires to change barrels, I'd to like to see it
Sorry I didn't read it before
I've never thought there was an automatic "greaser" inside a gun. awesome job!!
Giulius' Mind Quite a few machineguns that did not have a fully locking mechanism or had violent extractions have had oilers.
Some don't work right otherwhise, others even rip cases apart.
The CETME/G3 had a similar problem that was solved with gas blowby instead.
This problem has since been mostly been designed away.
@@Durnstaros Later models of the Schwarsloze also designed the greaser out of the weapon.
@@epikmanthe3rd Which ones? Czech ones from 1924 still had them...
Some prototype rifles had lubricators in the magazines themselves, a bit of wool or something on either side, when the cartridges move up they touch the material.
I just realized that even a machine gun needs a cup of tea. How sweet...
Love how this one starts with oil being dumped in.
Thank you for the excellent animation of the functioning of this machine gun! Undecidedly forgotten weapons played a huge role in world wars 1 and 2.
And a very interesting system of automation functions.
Austro Hungarian guns never fail to be interesting
It is actually german
@@dialga477 Nope, this was the main MG of the Austro Hungarian empire.
@@atfyoutubedivision955 It was designed by a german
@@user-sf8op3nd7q ok so for you the hotchkiss is an austrian machinegun
@@blecao After some research (as I have forgotten that I wrote this comment), no. The reasoning is that the original Austrian design had been altered to a quite extent by the Hotchkiss company's engineers by the time it got produced as the Hotchkiss series of machine guns (if I have read it correctly, and not the older "American" guns), leaving the gas piston the only part of the gun still Austrian. That is different from this gun which has some slight improvements from the original m/1907 machine gun bought by the Austro-Hungarian army from Mr Schwarzlose.
At the same time, I do believe that I was naïve with the comment I left as with the same logic, all maxim pattern guns would be American/British, and Ksp 58 machine gun would be Belgian.
Good to see another video/animation from you! You are the best! - keep 'em coming.
YOUR STUFF IS BRILLIANT, 10 OUT OF 10. THANK YOU.
Amazing to see all the details.
Great work!
I vaguely recall asking for this somewhere in the comments in a prior video. Thank you for delivering.
Glad to oblige. You also asked about the Marsden. I would need a good set of drawings before I could even attempt this one. Rob
vbbsmyt For the moment are you keeping all projects ww1 related? Not sure but I think you are working with C&Rsenal correct? If there is one gun that has also caught my interest it is the Breda M37 but that is ww2.
Great animation, as always
1912M.s were used during WW2 too. It was a very reliable weapon and it could provide loooooooong continuous support fore for the infantry. Germans used every single one they could gather from Czech and Austrian stores. They were operated in "regiments with Czech weapons" (Infanterieregiments mit tschechischem Gerät). Most of them were lost during 1941-42, but the remaining units served as late as D-Day (schwarzloses of Atlantik Wall) in the western front and until the end of the war on eastern front and in the balkans.
During ww2 Hungarian army every inf. battalion had one HMG company with 12 Schwarzlose (in addition, there were a couple of AT weapons and mortars). Each gun were carried by 3 horse/mule (1st: gun and tripod; 2nd & 3rd: ammo). It was operated by a whole squad: commander, 6 gunner-ammo handlers, 3 horseleaders. This quite big crew make 1912Ms quite mobile, and they could carry lots of ammo. Schwarzloses were also used as light AA MG in transport battalions of corps and in Divisional Supply and Support Service regiments. Each of them had 1 AAMG company with 12 Schwarclose on AA mount (there were dual and quad mounts, but most of Sch. were used on single mount on a truck or horse-drawn cart). Moreover the were used on armoured trains and armoured river patrol boats ("Őrnaszád") as DP guns (AA and anti-personel).
It was a proven and durable weapon, but the water cooling had some issues, like the Russian winter (-30°C) in eastern front.
your animations brings a tear to my eye
That main spring is thicc
Must be becouse its delayed blowback, bolt is not locked to chamber so it needs that strong spring...
@@RS-pe5hp What, you saying a strong, independent spring can't be THICC?
@@korbetthein3072 Dont pick up words from my sentence against me, I did not say its not possible...
@@RS-pe5hp I'm sorry, it's a joke.
@@korbetthein3072 I am sorry, its partly my mistake too becouse I did not get it :D
VERY well done! I really enjoyed it. You can really appreciate why this was such an excellent system.
I liked the oil spray!
Woah this is far more simple then the maxim and Vickers gun
Very ingenious design, I could watch this video endlessly!
Nice that you are back
Maybe you could do something with tanks or artillery...
richtig cool das du wieder da bist
Your'e back!
Wow this game has a powerful soundtrack
Damn schwarzlose not only did he invented the "safe action" trigger concept, but he also implemented rollers as a means to delay the action!? This man is a genius and doesn't get the credit he deserves
And also a bit of the disassembly procedure being like AKs!
That, ladies and gentlemen, is why people had guns for hundreds of years and for all that time just manually filled the barrel with bullet/primer/charge. That is a beast of a gun and a marvel of engineering
They did love their toggle locks.
It's interesting to see that this gun got a separate De-linker to separate the cartridge from the link. Kinda reminds me of modern day M-134.
Its wery reliable solution :)
Absolutely fantastic !
yea, you're alive
:)
Really interesting! I did not know that machine guns were filled with chocolate milk and anti freeze!
Beautifully done
Yay! A new 3D model video!
So this is the MG my forefathers used against Little Entente troops and Russians in WW1. Was very interesting. They used even it in WW2 in Eastern Front.
Slick and accurate, as always.
Welcome back to the land of the living)
Amazing work
Fantastic. I can now fully understand the action. Never knew there was a float valve in the barrel jacket.
I would call it a shuttle valve. The steam can enter the valve chamber either from the front or the rear of the barrel jacket. The tube in the upper part of the jacket carries steam from the rear When the gun is elevated, the valve slides to the rear blocking the inlet from the rear to prevent carry-over of water. If the gun is depressed, then the valve slides forwards. This feature is seen in all jacketed Maxim and Vickers MGs - but I never bothered to animate them before. Rob
@@vbbsmyt is there a gpmg version of this like the mg08/15?
Love the way you drive the gun just like a scooter 😜
Woooo hooooo you're back!
this thing shatters eardrums
Hey dude, I love your videos, it's pretty cool, could you upload another one about Panzers or SdKfz?
Cleaning this gun might have been really annoying.
Music is totally synchronized with shot sounds on purpose!
Machine gun with self lubrication.Nice!!!
Great video,thanks.
Looks so simple, but still so hard. Kinda wanna try machine the mecanism
A replica of this thing was used in the Young Indiana Jones television series episode "Oganga". I recognize it simply because of the breech lever action; watch the first twenty minutes of the episode and you'll see what I mean.
nice gun pick
Very cool!
Awesome youre back !!!. Really cool that you show the schwarslose. Please do a video one the salvatore dormus 1893 machinegun tath sould be realy cool. I quess i see this one c/rsenal to. Can't wait for tath video either. Thanks for your work !!!!!!
This is Probebly the best weapon animation one youtube ever created.
Calle B how would c&rsenal get their hands on one of those?
Daniel Butka they have atlets 4 machineguns already and one reason why vbbsmyt are doing We 1 machineguns are so c/rsenal Can use the animations. For an exempel the lewisgun. They have already Said that they Will realease 3 machinegun videos this year. And the schwarlose aint so rare it was used bye 20 countries including my country sweden. In good conditon they sell for 15-20 tusand dollars.
Calle B I meant the 1893 salvator dormus. Its truly a bizarre thing, and I doubt it exists outside of museums (Vienna military museum, to be precise). I'm also not sure that it was used in WWI.
Daniel Butka ahhh yea i dont think soo eihter. They are really rare but they were used in both boxer rebelion and Ww 1. But i hope vbbsmyt can do a video one it. They are really cool, and Its no video one it only some text and pictures one forrgotten weapons.com.
Wonderful
Make a video about the RSC 1917's mechanism.
Yay your alive!
Музыка как из цивилизации 😀
Great Vid, would love to see a st etienne 1907.
So would I, but I would need a good set of drawings before attempting an animation. R
Schwarzlose is my last name, idk if there is any similarities. But it is a uncommon name.
Wow, this is a truely unique design. I guess it could count as a delayed blowback design but I would argue that it looks like a direct blowback design, since the levers and the spring is just one buffer system unlike roller delayed or lever delayed where there are two stages of action. I never thought it was possible to implement such a design in a full-power rifle cartridge, I wonder why it is not done more considering this is much simpler than the Maxim or Hotchkiss design.
You can go bigger still. The 20mm Orliken AA gun was also delayed blowback. It's even pretty obvious as the spring is massive and external.
One of the biggest advantages though is that delayed blowback made water cooling much easier. One of the fiddly things of a Maxim gun was that the barrel cycles back and forth through the water jacket which you somehow have to allow for while still creating a water tight seal.
Can you make a Bofors cannon animation?
man! i love it!! 😍
very good video for gun entusiasts like me very nice :D
HBD Andreas Wilhelm Schwarzlose! :-D
So cool
It would be awesome to have a 3D model of a FIAT-Revelli M1914 since there's nothing about it at all on the internet unless you speak Italian
TheOtakuComrade I agree, it pairs well with this Austro-Hungarian machine gun. I am interested in seeing the revelli's delayed blowback and strange feed mechanisms.
I am an engineer not an artist. I need a good set of drawings before I can even attempt an animation. If you know where I can get drawings (in any language) I might have a go. Rob
M11rtin, Many thanks for the link. The feed mechanisms alone make it a very interesting gun, and the drawings look good enough to investigate further. Now I need to see if I can get my hands on one in the UK. I'll put it on my 'to-do' list, but it may be months before I get round to it. Thanks again. Rob
vbbsmyt It looks like it operates on the same locking principle as the Glisenti 1910 pistol.
Daniel Butka
It's just a simple short recoil locked breech system, like a C96
I literally didn’t know this gun existed
Very good
Very interesting
Are there even any other toggle delayed firearms but this and the Pedersen rifle?
Whoever designed it....he's not human..
Is there any occurrence where a spark was created inside the chamber probably caused by friction... And ended up combusting the oil reservoir?
Great video, any chance you could do the 1897 75mm French field gun or some other artillery piece?
that background music makes me want to game end
😂😂
Needs more moving parts.
I don't really understand how you get the belt in and the door closed at the same time. Seems like they'd block one and other
I wonder how long it takes to make this animations?
Bad news was just 2 years before ww1 this gun came into action.
Просто класс! Понятно и доступно
How did they even design this mechanism without 3d programs? That has always baffled me..
Must have carved with wood
This looks slightly cheaper to manufacture than a short recoil Maxim
Its probably about the same.
The carter and the radiator are full!
Can you make a video of the mg0815 now and like the schwarzlose it’s better than the maxim mg08
Достаточно сложное производство. Очень много фрезеровки и очень большой вес. Но судя по конструкции пулемет достаточно надежный.
Excellent, as ever. One little question, how was the oiling mechanism of the cartridges? Thanks and cheers.
Aldo del Aguila Well, if it were like other guns with oiling mechanisms, then the oil would absorb debris and jam the gun.
Hu Daniel Butka. Thanks. I only know the oiling in japanese machineguns, which in some conditions (dust in Manchuria) traped the particles and caused some misfires. Is the oiling system in the austro-hungarian MG quite different?
Aldo del Aguila I think the Japanese mgs used a soaked brush to oil cartridges, while the schwarzlose uses a pump.
Thanks! Did the pump sprayed the cartridge?
Aldo del Aguila Yes, in the animation, you can see the orange oil spray onto the cartridge as it enters the chamber.
nice! ww2 british 17pdr?
Let me ask, what software do you use to simulate the operation of this gun?
Cinema 4D with x-particles
*Why orange liquid?* Cooling? Sealant? Lubrication? All of them?
(Seams like hell of a mess to clean up after using)
As stated in the notes "as the cartridge has to start moving while there is still pressure in the barrel, a small amount of oil is squirted on each cartridge during loading". Hope this helps.
is the Liquid water, or some kind of solution to keep it cool ?
Water
Why would it need oiled cartridges? Did it extract under high pressure? The amount of time the bolt was forward after the firing pin dropped seemed sufficient for the pressure to drop to a safe level before extraction
Becuase it is a delayed blowback the breechblock starts moving the second that the powder is ignited, this is under high pressure.
animations on guns are hard to do, although vbbsmyt's animations are very good you can't replicate the high speed of an actual weapon. So is it with every animation about guns and games about dismanteling guns.
MultiMedia XL Ok
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Sistema de rodillo, igual q la. Luguer. Que complicado y arcaico, y refrigerado por agua!
A Machine gun, that's What it Is !
Великолепно!
Большое спасибо) Великолепная работа))
Where on earth do you find the blueprints for these?
непонятно какая энергия откидывает назад
Am looking for the intermediate maxim that you had on your playlist
Interim Maxim should now be visible.
@@vbbsmyt thanks a lot I really appreciate it
@@vbbsmyt maxim transitional machine gun still not visible....
Hello cany you send me an 3D data we want to build an replica but the czechoslovak version many many thx :)
Is the machine gun used for the Austro-Húngary empire in the World War I (1914-1918) and never fail.
我中文描述一遍它的原理
施瓦茨罗斯M1912重机枪，外表上看起来有点马克沁机枪的影子，但实际上它开锁原理和马克沁机枪完全不同，内部机构与马克沁没有丝毫关系。
虽说施瓦茨罗斯M1912重机枪也有一点肘节枪机的样子，枪机也连在一个肘节上，但施瓦茨罗斯重机枪的肘节并不像传统的马克沁机枪那样通过枪管短促后坐开锁，而是直接由膛内压力推着枪机强行后退，把肘节强行扭转拉直暴力开锁，在这个过程中肘节只是为枪机后坐增加一些阻力。
因此施瓦茨罗斯重机枪的原理和马克沁机枪是完全不同的，该肘节不能刚性闭锁，只是提供一些阻力延迟后坐。
这种延迟开锁的半自由枪机原理优点是简单，比管退式、导气式等需要刚性闭锁机构的自动武器都简单，但缺点也很明显，虽然肘节能延迟开锁时机，但效果有限，枪机后退速度快，动作猛烈，抽壳时因为膛压还很高，弹壳膨胀紧贴枪管，造成抽壳阻力大，故障率高。对此施瓦茨罗斯使用了两个方法来解决这个问题，一个是在枪身内装一个油壶，每一发子弹进膛时油壶自动往枪膛内注入一点润滑油，减小抽壳时的阻力（视频里从00：10到00：25就演示了向油壶内注油，这就是注油的作用）；另一个是缩短枪管长度，让弹头尽快飞离枪口，使枪管泄压。但是后者的代价是降低了子弹初速，增大了枪口冲击波，枪口噪声和枪口焰都大，所以施瓦茨罗斯重机枪使用了一个外形大得夸张的喇叭形消焰器。
Absolutely correct.
O:17 the gun combustile funcsion ...wat???
Lubricant
I need 9000000000 of those to buy ok
What specifically locks the gun? The toggle?
There is no lock. The mechanism is a delayed blowback, and since the breech starts to open while there is pressure in the barrel, cartridge cases need to be lubricated to allow them to be extracted. The toggle provides a mechanical dis-advantage, so a lot of energy is absorbed as the breech block starts to move, slowly at first then accelerates to eject the cartridge and feed the next round. Hope this helps. Rob
BF 1?
Yus