Arken ThermNight TNC225R (affordable multi-spectral) first footage
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Woohoo at last (thank-you Arken Optics) I’m able to share some first footage, captured with the amazing ThermNight TNC225R multi-spectral scope. Here from our garden I record our puppy Lucy in bright daylight at 18m, then some sheep opposite from 113m to 350m. Then I record sheep and cows, then test the LRF out to 858m.
This is the pre-production prototype (first displayed at the British Shooting Show 2024), so be aware the retail versions (available autumn 2024, though that’s between us) will have better image quality than this prototype.
More footage coming very soon, by day and night.
UPDATE ### I've been asked two great questions by viewers of this video, so will answer these in subsequent follow-on videos as my review continues...
1) ...from @Fubar684 "Pardon the dumb question, is the magnification 2 X 25?"
Good question actually (no dumb questions with a brand-new device), but no...
With two objective lenses the optical displayed zoom "1x" (5x), 1.5x (7.5x), 2x (10x), 2.5x (12.5x), 3x (15x), 3.5x (17.5x) and 4x (20x) equates to the magnification in brackets: so like the ZHD520R's 5-20x.
The thermal displayed zoom "1x" (3x), 2x (6x), 3x (9x) and 4x (12x) makes it 3-12x magnification.
Hope this makes sense, I'll publicise this feature as my review continues.
2) ...from @MRxr400 "POI is different from thermal to IR. do you have to zero individually?"
Yep indeed, great question: Zeroing is the same as the existing day/night Zulus, so during the process you Zero one spectrum, then after adjusting X & Y values, reticle colour and design, you're asked "Switch to other channel for calibration?"
If you click yes, the spectrum swaps and you easily just adjust the 'other' X and Y values, then save.
I'll record a zeroing video shortly, as I think I can record the process within the scope.
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You've sold it to me Russ. Just placed an order for one from Optics Warehouse. Less than a grand.
@@user-je8jk1fd2q Good shout, can't wait to try the retail version -and there will be higher-res' thermal sensor versions coming sooner rather than later.
Thanks for watching, please share, cheers. Russ
Nice.
Thank-you and thanks for watching (more coming very soon), please share.
Cheers. Russ
Great video as usual, Russ. 👍
Thank-you and thanks for your support (and such great kit). Hopefully today the AirgunWorld magazine podcast will go live, where Dave and Terry chat to me about being a disabled shooter, and how using great IR / Thermal kit helps. 🤓
All the best, cheers. Russ
OMG I can't wait to get this one! Where can I order it!???
Thanks Russ, roll on September . Steve .
Absolutely! 🤓
My pleasure, thanks for watching - please share.
Happy shooting 🎯 cheers. Russ
Great video Russ 💪 the performance is imo pretty darn good for such a low res sensor, the detection and ID on them sheep at 200 odd was impressive.
That said they are sheep! but for rabbits at 100 this will be absolutely spot on and rats will amazing!
I can't wait to get my hands on one 🤞 as soon as possible, it would certainly revitalise my channel 😂
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It's a game changer for sure.
Thanks for watching - please share! Cheers. Russ
This is what I've been waiting for. Can't wait for them to go on sale.
Thanks for watching, please share to spread the word.
Happy shooting, cheers. Russ
@@The-Ratbasher I’m offering $200 off and free shipping. They are in stock.
Damn I just bought a Zulus HD LRF!!! Now I want this thermal!
You're not the only one. 😍🤓
Thanks for watching, please share.
Cheers. Russ
Been waiting for this but I just won a 3x12 from arken from the fathers day competition 😊
Congratulations! 🥳🥳🥳
Looks great. Just one thing, the cross on the thermal didn't match the day/night vision. Why is this ? Do you match them whilst zeroing?
@@georgelazarus3878 Hi George, nope this was just popped on a tripod so the two objective lens images weren't collimated and neither spectrum was zeroed either.
But footage is already online from the U.S (and the UK in small amounts) of this scope being used in pest control situations.
I'll be bringing you all (separately) day and night footage, zeroing footage and pest control footage -ASAP, once I have a retail version in my hands. 🙏🤓
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Did you get a rough Idea how much please?
Significantly less than £1.5k is my guesstimate. 🤫😇
Thanks for watching, please share to spread the word.
Happy shooting, cheers. Russ
I am hoping they make one without LRF. It is getting heavy and bulky. I love how compact my 520 Zulus without LRF.
I'm not sure they will, but can ask the question... TBH I'm not sure there will be much demand for a non-LRF/BCL version, and already having both digital and thermal lenses (plus IR) that wouldn't be much smaller.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Hi Russ, great video as always. Can you shoot in thermal mode, as well as IR mode? Cheers
Hi Alun, thank-you and thanks for watching.
Yep, I'll be using this method for any shorter-range ratting that comes up.
You 'align' the two sensors (once), then while zeroing you zero one spectrum (e.g. daylight), then are offered the choice to zero the other (i.e. thermal).
Once that's done you can shoot in either spectrum, and aim via the main window or the PIP -in both/either.
All the best, cheers. Russ
Great vid bud. If the picture quality is on par with the current Zulus models and the thermal is a bit better (to be honest if using thermal as a ‘spotter’ with PIP, the thermal image isn’t terrible) then yeah I’ll be all up for getting one of these. Do you know so what the zoom options are for it? Will there be a 3-12 and 5-20 version?
Thank-you and thanks for watching, please share!
You and me both... I'm waiting to hear for sure, but I believe it'll be optically 'similar to the 5-20', with pricing very competitive - these beauties are gonna be POPULAR!
Happy Shooting, cheers. Russ
I heard the thermal will be 3-12 and NV side stay 5-20. So kinda a combo of both rates.
@@gavincline209 That sounds right going by my testing, I added the zoom/magnification steps to the video description as well as how both are zeroed, and I'll cover both in a video I'm already working on -soon. 🤓🎯
Thanks for watching - please share, cheers. Russ
@@gavincline209 Ps. I'll use this relatively low res' thermal image for spotting, and the digital day/night image for targeting.
Even with close prey like rats I doubt I'll ever zoom the thermal image.
Cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222oh yeah. It’s definitely for up close work. Looks like 0-50……75yrds maybe on thermal side. But that’s exactly what I’m looking for. Up close then the NV to reach out if I ever need too. If they ever get a say 384 core or 480( we can hope 1 day!) it will definitely be something on the thermal side though.
I’m personally between this unit or the holosun TH red dot with magnifier for my new build. A 0-300yrd rig. But the lrf part of this with BC is really a nice feature I’d like to have also vs just a red dot style unit
Is the day time picture the same as the zulus russ the exact lens etc and do you know size of the thermal lens on the finished model cheers russ
Not quite on this one, but a little bird tells me that's one of the things they're improving before these are released (we don't know final specs yet).
Thanks for watching, please share... and happy shooting, cheers. Russ
THANKS for sharing sir I'm VERY IMPRESSED AND INTERESTED. Do you have any idea of the price RUFFLY?🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
Significantly less than £1.5k is my guesstimate. 🤫😇
Thanks for watching, please share to spread the word. 🤓
Happy shooting, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222THANKS Russ 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
poi is different from thermal to IR. do you have to zero individually? pretty nice picture
Yep indeed, great question: Zeroing is the same as the existing day/night Zulus, so during the process you Zero one spectrum, then after adjusting X & Y values, reticle colour and design, you're asked "Switch to other channel for calibration?"
If you click yes, the spectrum swaps and you easily just adjust the 'other' lens' X and Y values, then save.
I'll record a zeroing video shortly, as I think I can record the process within the scope.
Thanks for watching (please share), cheers. Russ
Thanks Russ, where do you measure the scope height when both spectrums are zeroed (calibrated) from the lower thermal sensor or the day/night lens? Thanks and keep up the fantastic work mate.
@@airriflevermincontroluk5027 Ahhh good question 🤔 (but I'm sure they've already accommodated that)... I expect I'll use the Thermal more for spotting and the day/night more for targeting, so I'll measure from the upper lens.
Thanks for watching and I'll do my best, hoped to get my next video out last weekend but I've had editing software issues 😤 so trying again today.
Happy shooting, cheers. Russ
Pardon the dumb question, is the magnification 2 X 25?
Good question actually (no dumb questions with a brand-new device), but no...
With two objective lenses the optical displayed zoom "1x" (5x), 1.5x (7.5x), 2x (10x), 2.5x (12.5x), 3x (15x), 3.5x (17.5x) and 4x (20x) equates to the magnification in brackets: so like the ZHD520R's 5-20x.
The thermal displayed zoom "1x" (3x), 2x (6x), 3x (9x) and 4x (12x) makes it 3-12x magnification.
Hope this makes sense, I'll publicise this feature as my review continues.
Thanks for watching, please share. Cheers. Russ
What is the all important GUARENTEE on the ARKEN sights ??
Let's put it this way, the few folk on the UK AirgunForum (AGF) who've had issues sing their praises, here's two recent posts...
airgunforums.co.uk/threads/arken-zulus-user-experiences.71841/page-154#post-1704442
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Ps. Sunset here in southern Scotland was half an hour ago, I'm about to head outside to record side-by-side on the ZHD312R & ZHD520R in darkness, then on the TNC225R (scopes on tripods, no shooting).
More videos coming very soon, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 So there is no Guarantee then
@@martinmackett2758 It's either a one or two year guarantee (I'll check), but the important thing is very few units appear to have errors, and anyone who's contacted Arken has been very satisfied by their response. R
@@martinmackett2758 From Arken...
"Ok, first, two year warranty from date of purchase, our dealers are obligated to test, determine and swap faulty units. And in case they are out of stock, or other reasons that cannot determine whether it is faulty, Arken will always take care of warranty swaps on our own. And bear in mind that we have UK warehouse now, there will be constantly ample stock for warranty swaps."
I trust that reassures you?
Cheers. Russ
When will they be available for purchase?
(Unofficially) start of autumn. 🤫
Thanks for watching, please share.
Cheers. Russ
Thermal not as good as I thought it would be in all honesty
These were far from ideal thermal conditions, plus the retail version will be higher quality, and the thermal's primarily for spotting, and shorter-range targeting.
For me even this prototype ticks both boxes very nicely.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
First shot of the scope and it looks like its been unceremoniously abused for about 3 years 🙄 if it marks that easily i dont want one, very disappointed to say the least!
Hahaha just because my priority was showcasing performance over giving it a wipe-down? 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for watching anyway. R
poor thermal vision for the asking price
You think? I suspect the day/night image quality of the final version will be somewhere between the ZHD312R and ZHD520R, but including a wider-angle thermal spotter -cum short range thermal scope... 😳
This is one hell of an all-in scope for the money, and (rightly) not intended to compete against high-end dedicated thermal.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Agree, thermal quality and lag seem very poor it is more of a novelty, I'd stick with a 5-20 lrf and buy a separate thermal spotter with the left over money + a bit more.... And Im sure batteries will last longer then too
@@timyd2009 Bruce ran the prototype ThermNight over his testing meter(s) as usual, and said there was very little draw from the thermal side of the scope.
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
Thats a terrible thermal image, looks like like a low-res detector with poor NETD.
Aye it's not a patch on high-end dedicated thermal, but for multi-spectral it's one helluvva affordable solution, with the ability to spot prey in the wide angle main window then target it in the HD PIP.
...or one hotkey to swap thermal to the PIP, then another hotkey to deactivate PIP: that's awesome!
Thanks for watching, cheers. Russ
It was stated to be a test unit and will be better in real production models. If they can atleast double that level it will still be a helluva package to be all 3 things in 1. Especially in that size footprint.
@@gavincline209 It depends what you're used to and what you already own. With night vision/night capabl equipment you generally pay for performance. There are no cheap solutions only compromises.