My wife after my xy arrived (from B&H) 3 days ago: “What did you order? Is that more gear?…” Me: “Well, you know how I just bought that little op-1? That was the latest release at the time. But now, that just released this other new synth, and I really need to test drive it to decide which one I like best… And I can then return the other one.” Wife: eye rolls. Me: Sweating, scared to open the box. It all feels like a test, lol. First hour with op-xy was pretty inspiring and felt more intuitive and constructive that the 1f. Currently they are both set up all connected to a keystep pro (which is pretty awesome so far). And now I’m trying to rationalize keeping both, while also realizing “xy” sounds too much like “ex-wife.” Lol.
At the time I decrypted that OP-Z was OP-2 after OP-1. Next was easy to guess they added f-word to OP-1f by an obvious reason. OP-ExYife is the best of them all! 😂
@@phurniture Indeed, the life of a synth addict is on a fine line between honey control and divorce 😂 MLS channel is the only place we can trust to talk about this openly!
I had been waiting for a TE device that would fill the gaps left by the OP-1 (even the Field), and as soon as I saw the videos about the OP-XY, I thought, "OK, thank you, TE-you did it! I want it." Since I’m not a fan of having too many devices-it distracts me-I decided to sell some gear to fund this purchase. I sold the Syntakt (which I think is a fantastic machine), the Deluge (another exceptional groovebox), two Strymons, and a Zildjian Ride cymbal that I didn’t use often. In short, I cleared out some stuff to focus on one device, and I can’t wait to try it out and enjoy it. I loved the OP-1, but its flaws drove me mad. Now, this new device seems like the perfection I’ve been waiting for. I’m grateful to these manufacturers for creating these incredible tools that bring us so much joy.
I have used the OP1 and then the OP1 Field a lot. I have come to the conclusion that I am not made for the tape workflow, because I want to have control on the notes I record, and to be able to edit them afterwards. I am composing my first song on the XY and I am quite happy for the quality of the sounds too. Today I sequenced four bars with drums on track 1, bass on track 2 and a choir doing a D minor chord on track 3. Then I put the SAMPLE engine on track 4 and sampled a chord progression using the auto-transpose. A little editing and I had my drums+bass+choir sequence ready, so I could delete tracks 1, 2 and 3... this is fantastic! XY is absolutely great FOR ME.. (personal opinion of course)
I might be missing some nuance here but the SQ-64 has sequence transposition locked to a selected scale and root. Pretty good for a device that’s in the $100-200 range nowadays
Hahaha you couldn’t resist! I know the feeling well. Enjoy, my friend! At the end of the day, you can’t take it with you. Still saving for my Syntakt-one day…
Apples and oranges. You could compare it to a Kurzweil PC4 if we’re going to do that nonsense and the XY looks like a terrible spend. Same goes with comparing it to an iPad and software synths. More for less.
@@MidlifeSynthesist Ha-ha! We can explore more on generative qualities than. But yes, you better start with "Look Honey No Hands" and it still can play LOL
this is such a played out trope and is really a terrible joke at this point. HAHA The ol' Ball and Chain am I right!?! I have a such terrible relationship with my spouse that my purchasing habits cause consternation in my relationship! isnt that soooo funny!
@@robokid13 I wish it were a joke. It’s pretty real in my world. I think you could have a great relationship with your partner, and gear that’s $1k+ will put a strain on the best of relationships, imho.
❤ Having to save for something you want, regardless of how long it takes is something that I (maybe incorrectly) feel doesn't happen enough in these modern uberfast times.
Very excited for your video on it! Plan to pick one up myself as it looks way more suited to my workflow and has all the features I felt the OP-1 was missing. Really miss that UI design and the fun that TE offers with their products. Would love to see content on FX and midi sends through pedals as I’ve not seen that yet. Also in depth content on the sampler modules!
@@lebronsinclair8012 But font is smaller LOL I'm "lucky" did not want hassle with preorder on M8, but I was at the order page for a week. That would really put me into even more financial crisis planning on XY ...... with new big a$$ Muse sitting here at the table 🤣 But will be on V3! One feature in particular attracted me to chain numbered patterns (or scenes or phrases, how they called it there). I like to make full structure for a song right there in mobile device. Spoiled by decade of playing Korg Gadget. XY has song buildup feature too. I did not like that on Polyend Play+ (or Circuits, or VerseLab), too many things to copy/paste (the flip side if preset per patten flexibility).
I was undecided or even against it for a day or two, but after watching a couple of raw videos when someone created music on them, I bought one instantly. It's not that expensive for me, and it will be fun to carry around and play from time to time. I always appreciate well-designed things. I bought mine from a local shop, so I'll have to wait a few weeks.
I can't wait for your review to come out!!! The moment they are available in the shop here in Belgium i am going to get me one for sure,Always wanted an op-1 but never bought it because of the workflow,Now with this sequencing style i can't resist anymore😅my Digitakt mk1 has to go now!
I said "I'm fckn getting it" day one because I know well its value for my music making, because OP-Z is in my bag for past 6 years. What I learned in past two weeks (incl. few days it pre-leaked), I don't have to apologize for getting it 😂 What I see/know/hear is an amazing forward looking device for music making. We still talk about love to music, right? I'd love to hear more from you on full song making process (vs 4 bar beat). And regarding synth/DAW/fx connectivity + transferring project, so about continuity of music making flow (vs never letting your ideas see a light of day). What I do not want to see though is comparison to any MPCs, Electrons, SP-404 (huge), MC-707, or Deluge (no matter how you love it ;). While I have nothing against those, OP-XY is in totally different league and should not be aligned to any larger, no battery groovebox, even if you can buy 2 or 3 of those. Because if you compare anything to OP-XY it can be M8, MC-101, OP-1f/Z, EP-133/1320, or Polyend Tracker/Play, or Move, right? You would not compare OP-XY to Push3, and if you do, you can take Push to couch/backyard, but you will not drop it into your backpack. Fair comparison would be something as capable as Oxi + Vector synth for example. Though OP-XY is in one small package and with battery. It's also easy do the money math this way: capable sequencer + very portable synth == you arrive to a a same price very fast (if you even want to spend any more seconds on this nonsense) 😎 Looking forward for your impression on OP-XY, because I know you will be talking about MUSIC and GAS and Life of gear addict. Hopefully you can un-divide the nation with well informed and hand-on experience (no pressure). Maybe leaving some folks a leeway/helping hand who fell into trap of-overpriced-hipster-whining to finally look at the instrument and what it can do for them. Make friends friends again ..... but yeah .... OP-XY release is a serious test of tolerance and social skills, beside being GAS bomb explosion 🤣I'm still in shock. Because its a must for me and I keep thinking what else I'm selling to fund it .... just right after getting Muse that I'm not returning LOL
He man, nice video. I won't get one, but I want one ;P PS, your voice sounds like it is clipping often (in all your recent videos). Not sure what you're doing, but I'm assuming it's not the gear 🤣
@@tricks-and-tips thanks my friend! And thanks for the heads up regarding the clipping. I think it might be time to replace my current microphone with something else like a lav mic. Lots of love!!
@@MidlifeSynthesist It sounds a bit like my Nikon D750 onboard mic does which seems to have horrible pre amps that are overdriven way too quickly. Which mic + pre are you using?
No need to justify it, it was inevitable. And I’m sure you’ll love it and hope you do. Looking forward to the reviews. Like you I’ve been watching all the reviews. I’d love to know about exporting into a DAW (and logic specifically ) and how deep that is, ie can you export by track for processing post, and how easy it is. Second point I’d love you to explore for me, as a guitarist, drummer, producer etc, I like the op-1f. It’s a quirky workflow, but I like it, and it’s more similar to traditional song writing. For that reason I think I’ve never truly clicked with any sequencer, and I’ve tried a few (not the oxy, but the hapix squarp, Elektron and a few others). So my question is, for people like me can you give some insights into op-1f vs XY. Not as a “one is better” thing, more of a; if you like this probably this one for you, if you like that, maybe the other one. Whilst I recognise the TE stuff is a lot of money, I don’t think it’s ridiculous for what it is, the work that goes in and the total package. And also the resale values hold pretty good. So I wish people would focus on the positives or invest their energy elsewhere. I think it’s inevitable the gas will get me and I’ll eventually get an XY, but I’m not sure if it will be as enjoyable for me personally as the OP-1f journey has been. Everyone is different and is inspired by different things. Hoping our views help me one way or the other!
I sincerely love that this video is literally just about why you bought the XY, when you haven't even gotten it yet. Now the question is what happens at the end of the return period! :D
I hope you’ll enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. Though I have to admit, I had to send mine back because the power switch was defective. Unfortunately, it will take some time before the device is back in stock at the retailer. A typical TE story...
I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU AND THIS CHANNEL! I actually admire when you admit the MPC rip off story way back. But, you are the real deal. Only person in the game being real.
I managed to snatch a used OP-Z for less than a tenth of the cost of the OP-XY. Yes it was bend but a quick bake at 100C of the casing sorted that out. The OP-Z effects quality for example is not that great and it often sounds congested. I suppose that's where work in DAW comes in ideally with individual tracks being exported but I doubt it works ? I hope you will compare OPZ and OP XY from an audio quality stand point.
@1dkappe " bake" was a slightly exaggerated use of language. You basically warm up the plastic and then use some calipers to fix it on a flat surface while cooling. I never had any of the mentioned button issues so far.
I'm curious as to what your thoughts will wind up being on such, but HOLY HELL HE ISN'T WEARING THE SLING! That's kind of a huge point in my mind, even if you're probably at the "able to take it off every now and then for short periods" stage. Either way, so glad to see such as it's a nice step to see. If you have any Elektron gear, I'd love to hear comparisons against such tools as well, since the OP-XY is more expensive than a RYTM mk II, or even a Push 3 Standalone...
A life lived with few choices would be lackluster and boring. When seeking new gear I Iam happy that there is a huge range of equipment to research. Price is but another factor. I certainly do not get angry about the cost of top-tier equipment nor feel disdain for those low priced products that are copies made in far away places. Another unaffordable synthesizer is fun to check out yet I already know my DeepMind12 will have to do. It is what it is. Thanks for the video.
I have and OP-1 and OP-Z but never bought a OP-1 Field as I considered it too expensive. Like you, I think the OP-XY has more to offer than the OP-1 Field especially as it's £1899 in the UK (only £100 more expensive than the OP-1 Field) but I still feel for that amount of money I would rather buy a Push 3 Standalone which fully integrates with a DAW and costs less. Interestingly, the Polyend Synth which costs 499 euros and looks like an Ableton Move, but with more encoders, pads and has a larger colour display, offers a similar capability where sequences are automatically transposed to a chosen scale, plus the note mode pad scale layout automatically changes to reflect that chosen scale. I am looking forward to your OP-XY review.
😅Yes, we need more details about the XY. So far I understand that it is based on the OP-Z which I absolutley love. That being said, the OP-Z already has an "intelligent" transpose feature that can be sequenced. Didn't have a fancy name though. I use it all the time. I am really interested in polyphony limits, note stealing in the context of all 8 machine tracks, recording off-grid and if its true that the resolution is 1920 ppqn. Which seems outrages. And the quality of the master compressor. Can it mix and produce tracks to be ready for mastering and publishing? That would be deciding factors for me. Thanks!!!
What’s funny is I have no intention of buying this but I am also intrigued about why it is worth that much to someone. I don’t understand what the big deal is and I wonder if I’m missing something.
Bro i mean... if it sounds like a million bucks to your year... why not? To me it's a thing i wouldn't buy for 200 bucks let alone two grands, but if people love it so let them buy it... Right? It's Christmas time around the corner. Make yourself feel good
I don’t begrudge anyone. I don’t see the value to me doesn’t mean I hate the thing or people who do. More power to anyone who can get that device for free cuz that’s all it’s worth to me. I’d rather have the synth over your broken shoulder :)
Quick question about the "brain" function : Doesn't the Polyend Synth just have that ? Some kind of tracking/transposing melody ? Maybe I am mistaken...
@@MidlifeSynthesist Yes you are right, no sequence it ! Damned. They missed that spot. Anyway your videos are always super cool to watch and informative. Thank you !
All their devices look like a toy you would find an a toy chest. But with serious power. It's something you can truly play with and have fun with. I think that's why people love their stuff.
I love the OP-1 but so quirky workflow that cannot use more than to scratch out ideas. I am more productive with my Virus, Elektron and modulars. Hopefully the quirks for sequencing and use are better on the OP XY.
I've been waiting for an OP-Z Field for years, and the wait is finally over. The XY has been in development for a long time, and it shows. I think they've done a great job. The whole debate about the price tag is a waste of time and energy. If you want one, buy it. If you think it's not worth it, skip it. That simple.
Anyone buying TE stuff abroad contributes to Sweden's current account positively. So, a huge thank you from Sweden! And with the cost of their gear and the weak Swedish krona it's currently contributing quite a lot 😂
😂 It was hilarious to watch your two videos back to back where you first say that you can't afford it and then you buy it anyway 👌I really can't justify it at the moment, but I totally get it! Looks like they fixed all the problems I always had with the OP-1 workflow and why I never got one. And honestly it's a bit funny for me that people complain about a 2K price tag. A pro double bass or a clarinette will set you back a lot more than an OP-XY. Behringer and Korg spoiled us with all their cheap entry level synths. The OP-XY isn't for people who buy Behringer synths, i.e. me. I take months if not years to justify a 140€ Behringer synth, so the OP-XY isn't a device that I will buy anytime soon. Maybe in a few years when I've thought about it for a long time and it's been in my shopping basket 20 times. Still unlikely though. I don't think I ever would have built my modular if I had to spend that much money in one go.
There is one thing with teenage engineering which has nothing to do with price. Their support is $hit! I have an original op-1, some keys are malfunctioning and I am unable to get a replacement keyboard for it. I have an OP-Z with double trigger issues. No rectification is possible. Great devices, but no responsibility. When you sell something expensive you must also provide value. The OP-xy has the same computer laptop keys, they will malfunction! I baby these devices. Both have original decksavers.
I don't think anyone begrudges people who happen to buy it. I have enough money to buy it, but i'd never sink that much money on something that could get stepped on and destroyed instantly. I don't own a thousand dollar phone for the same reason - despite it being within my budget. The hate shouldn't transfer to the purchasers, but I'm sure a few salty people do that. It's fine to hate the price vs feature comparison, and the company that's more of a luxury brand than a music company. The problem is that this should absolutely be half the cost or less. I just don't see anything justifying the cost as far as internals and processors and such go. The R&D cost is also negligible considering this is more of a tweak on an existing concept and a lot of the groundwork for them was already laid out in previous products. I'd love to own this, but I just can't justify it.
I work on software analyzing chips power, mechanical, heat, etc. Turning new processor every year for mass produced phones, pretty much the same phone, is one thing. What TE is doing investing so much work, delivering such solid hard/software for a niche product is truly brave and incredible. As RD I’d say they are heroes 🎉 And yes, I would nor recommend stepping on it, at least barefoot 😂 there is plenty of raspberry pi plastic boxes for that
I have just alerted you that the brain is neither more nor less than what Roland's jd-xi offers; however, the punch in FX of the OP-XY, it is specific to the teenage brand and it is fun for the live!!!!
Another reason to distrust gear UA-cam reviews is that the algorithm is driven by GAS. If you want a trustworthy review, wait a few months on the new shiny gadget to see if anyone is still talking about it - or, better yet, actually making music 😊
@The Midlife Synthesist, What I would like to know is if it can play audio files that are longer than the 20 second sampling time limit, if you load them on the OP-XY via USB.
Idk about that. Did the cybertruck innovate the functionality of trucks? You can “use the trunk” on the xy. From a design standpoint, I can’t imagine a cybertruck in MOMA. But, cybertrucks make me 🤮, xy makes me 😊.
My ex wife told me it was over because she said I loved my gear more than her. My reply was “The audacity of you thinking such a thing, I would never pick you over gear!”. 😈
@@MidlifeSynthesist You really don't owe anyone any explanation for buying what you want. But just for the sake of argument. If 1 of the 2 videos is "wrong" I would say it's the first one. No need to really say "I'm not doing something". I do appretiate your honesty and all the info, even if its "GAS got to me..... Tell my wife I love.... hee.rr.... ugh..." But as we say en mis tierras. No aclares que oscureces
Haaaa, this is brilliant... did you do this stunt just to justify it to your better half? :) This is genius! Seriously though, hope you are getting better, you sure do look better. Keep on!
Can’t wait to see what potential makes this worth the price tag or not. I’m also gassed with the brain transposition thing. But I just can’t afford it. Someday maybe. For now I’m just gonna save for live suite. Max for live devices are calling my name.
I would like to know what is special about it in terms of workflow. Special in the beneficial way. What are the unique functions? I mean try unique. What are the features that are not unique but highly sought after-- and already exist in other- like sample chop. And how are they better in those device? Faster? Less editing to get to something you like? Etc…
You owe nobody an explanation. Looking forward to you stuff! To those considering the OP-XY, Detroit Modular is always running 10% off deals on their gear. No shipping or tax in most states. And they are nice guys (I'm not affiliated with them - other that being a customer. Just trying to help out the peeps who want an OP.) I'm curious about the file system compared to the FIELD. I haven' gotten my head around it based on XY reviews - looks like you can create folder hierarchy? That's handy.
I for once believe there is way more value in this device compared to the OP-1 Field. But other than that, the OP-XY seems more like a happy accidents device to me, full of random generative tricks. Not so much a device you would use for focused track design. I think that's more the realm of deicated workstations like the MPC.
I am confident someone will still complain, thus proving it's not about shilling. It's straight up hate with a side of jealousy. If these devices were $200, cats would be all over this. Do you. They can kiss the baby.
UA-camrs should be paid or receive free gear to promote a company's product. I find it super weird that so many are willing to review and hype a piece of hardware just to create UA-cam content. You're essentially working for free. It's one thing if you bought a synth and are showcasing your gear, but it's another thing to do an entire review promoting a product for free and then send it back. I love your videos. Sorry for the rant.
@@biggrime hey there my friend! No worries, I’m buying it because I’m interested, and making content is something I love so it’s a win win👍🏼 plus, I’ll only be “promoting” it if I like it😜 might be I rip it a new one😂 Lots of love!
Good approach! While I certainly will watch your review, I will most likely not buy the OP-XY, for the very simple fact that I cannot justify spending that much money for a tiny piece of gear. I know size doesn't matter, but I just don't see myself spending that much time with the OP-XY to even justify $500. I just have too much great hardware in the house that fascinates me and that I haven't yet fully squeezed out. And, if I start thinking about what I could buy with $2300 from my want-to-have list, I start drooling immediately...
For people complaining about the price (yes - it's more than I can afford for a hardware synth) they should be glad they don't play timpani in an orchestra. You could buy 10 OP-XY's for a professional set of four timpani drums. It's the same with other professional orchestral instruments, although not quite as extreme. Two OP-XY's will get you a bass trombone, for instance. Good luck with your follow-ups on the OP-XY! I'll likely follow along because, even though I won't ever be able to afford one, I enjoy watching what people can do with these devices.
The comments on all these TE videos are a toxic cesspool. All the anger is based in something deep down that these people have. It can’t possibly be that these people aren’t just now finding out that there’s a whole world of stuff out there that they can’t afford or that doesn’t line up with their value proposition. $2,000 for a purse!?!? $20,000 for a purse!?!? Why would I buy that when I can buy X? Because the product isn’t for you… plain and simple. Let’s look at watches… you can start with a nice JDM Seiko at $1200 (why would I buy the Tudor) then you make a bit more money and you save for the Tudor (why would I buy the Rolex), then you become more successful and realize Rolex makes great watches… you buy the Rolex (why would I buy the JLC)… then you become a bit more successful and you buy the JLC (why would I buy the Vacheron)… see where I’m going? None of these watches have more features than the previous or are any better at keeping time. At every level of income, there’s a whole world of stuff you can’t afford and when you make it to the next level, then there’s a whole new world of stuff you can’t afford.
Of course you have a point but I think the reactions are not purely about the price or what we can afford. People also are riled up about the Ableton Move or the Yamaha Seqtrak which are cheap. It has just gotten so difficult to determine what will actually inspire you to be more creative and get some results and what is just a another box with buttons. all the videos of all the geartubers end with 'but if it is for you no one can tell you'. that is mostly because each new thing is reviewed as if it existed alone in the universe. i would love to see comparisons between all these groveboxes and their workflows between the different manufacturers and see some actual opinions about what people still use after a year. what is actually working as an idea starter and can properly translate to a daw and what is just a jamming toy which never will be used outside that box etc. for that it would be nessescary for a geartuber to actually be transparent about his worflow as a musician or at least do a jam with the device in question like Bad Gear so we can actually see it in use beyond the 5 features marketing wants to push upon us.
There's also a lot of positive toxicity when it comes to TE stuff. With a watch, you know the limited functionality of it. You're not buying it for its functionality. A synth, however, you are buying it for the functionality and features. It's not solely a price thing or some type of psychological envy that's at play. For the price you have to look at its features, build quality, functionality, etc and compare it to the market. Why should I spend my money on something that is severely limited in features, not so great build quality, and have to fight it to get basic controls and features (like undo control, more tracks, assigning effects to different tracks instead of just the master) that an old $200 macbook air with some cheap or free software can handily do without a sweat and all without having to learn a new piece of gear? One could argue that those who spend $2300 on this are coping with an overpriced and limited piece of gear that has no excuses to not include basic functions and features. It's all subjective though. People are allowed to criticize things. You're still allowed to like it and do what you want with your money. You can still make amazing stuff with it. Just remember to not attach your identity to the gear and to not take any criticisms towards it as an attack on you.
@@joergbrathauer2302good points, but the people buying OP-XY aren’t cross shopping the seq track. I think that, even with the build issues, the OP-Z is better than the seq track. The XY also has features that my DTII doesn’t have. As for the build quality…. I’ve only had it for a few days, but I did own an OG OP-1 and I can tell you that the build quality is pretty great. Better than any other handheld. I’ve also owned the M8. In addition… I think that if people genuinely didn’t care or just didn’t see the value, there wouldn’t be nearly as many negative comments. I just want to read through to see interesting insights and 90% of what I see is people’s useless opinions about the price of a device they’ll never own or even try.
@@OroborosEternalLifeit does 95% of what the Digitakt II does and does some things it doesn’t do. Sound locks on the DT are pretty great, the DT has more send effects per track, and it has more tracks (non polyphonic). XY has half the tracks but they’re polyphonic, 2 send effects (instead of 4), less modulation, external send effects (not on the DT), a better song mode (IMO - maybe a bit less powerful but more usable), and a workflow thats also a bit quicker, and velocity sensitive keys. I’ve also been an Elektron user for a long time. Not a hater (I own many), just sharing some differences. Is it super expensive? Absolutely… but people calling UA-camrs out for not talking about the price being a major downside is dumb. Their job is to tell you what the thing does. You decide if the value for you is there. Just like any other product. For me… I have a little baby and I can’t make it down to my desk much anymore. I value being able to do most of what my existing setup can do from bed or from the couch. The lack of a screen on the OP-Z made that not really an option for me and I like the workflow of the XY so that’s why I bought it.
Enjoy your gear MLSynth :-) What can I say...there's more expensive gear than this, and that's being bought too. I like the quirkiness and design/UI of TE's gear, but I think my limit for their gear is the PO-133, might get one in the future. For now, I recently cleared my GAS savings account to obtain two Elektron devices, so I'm GAS-shielded and honeymooning the cr*p out of it.
Ok. You got you Gucci‘s 😂. Next week - why you don‘t like them anymore. 🎉. Sorry for teasing you. All good - hope to see your shoulder/arm is getting better.
@@MidlifeSynthesist You wish! LOL I never saw Subsequent 37 disappeared from your background any video. It's that sort of love. You stack with it mate! 🤣
My wife after my xy arrived (from B&H) 3 days ago: “What did you order? Is that more gear?…” Me: “Well, you know how I just bought that little op-1? That was the latest release at the time. But now, that just released this other new synth, and I really need to test drive it to decide which one I like best… And I can then return the other one.”
Wife: eye rolls.
Me: Sweating, scared to open the box. It all feels like a test, lol. First hour with op-xy was pretty inspiring and felt more intuitive and constructive that the 1f. Currently they are both set up all connected to a keystep pro (which is pretty awesome so far). And now I’m trying to rationalize keeping both, while also realizing “xy” sounds too much like “ex-wife.” Lol.
At the time I decrypted that OP-Z was OP-2 after OP-1. Next was easy to guess they added f-word to OP-1f by an obvious reason. OP-ExYife is the best of them all! 😂
The beauty of these small pieces of gear is that they're easy to hide from your spouse!
@@phurniture Indeed, the life of a synth addict is on a fine line between honey control and divorce 😂 MLS channel is the only place we can trust to talk about this openly!
lol you gotta get your deliveries on days she's not home.
i hope yall are joking 😂
Better you than me! I'm afflicted with SAGS: selling all gear syndrome.
That’s late stage GAS for sure! Heard it can be quite profitable😜
I went through SAGS and never back into GAS.
When I feel the thrust to buy, I just wait a few days and then it's gone
That's where I'm at, too. If I'm not using a piece of gear on a regular basis to write music, it's going.
Is that why prices are falling on reverb like a brick, haha!
Wow so cool
The build up to a buy button dopamine hit is really something else 😵💫
You said it!!🤯🤯
This.
I had been waiting for a TE device that would fill the gaps left by the OP-1 (even the Field), and as soon as I saw the videos about the OP-XY, I thought, "OK, thank you, TE-you did it! I want it."
Since I’m not a fan of having too many devices-it distracts me-I decided to sell some gear to fund this purchase. I sold the Syntakt (which I think is a fantastic machine), the Deluge (another exceptional groovebox), two Strymons, and a Zildjian Ride cymbal that I didn’t use often.
In short, I cleared out some stuff to focus on one device, and I can’t wait to try it out and enjoy it. I loved the OP-1, but its flaws drove me mad. Now, this new device seems like the perfection I’ve been waiting for.
I’m grateful to these manufacturers for creating these incredible tools that bring us so much joy.
I sincerely hope you have a great time with it :)
@@ChemistryLemur 🧡
Hope it’s “the one”!❤️❤️
@@MidlifeSynthesist I hope so too! And I hope you have fun with this brilliant new instrument too! 😄
@@allegro_manontroppo Do you (or did you) also own the op-1F?
I have used the OP1 and then the OP1 Field a lot. I have come to the conclusion that I am not made for the tape workflow, because I want to have control on the notes I record, and to be able to edit them afterwards. I am composing my first song on the XY and I am quite happy for the quality of the sounds too.
Today I sequenced four bars with drums on track 1, bass on track 2 and a choir doing a D minor chord on track 3. Then I put the SAMPLE engine on track 4 and sampled a chord progression using the auto-transpose. A little editing and I had my drums+bass+choir sequence ready, so I could delete tracks 1, 2 and 3... this is fantastic! XY is absolutely great FOR ME.. (personal opinion of course)
Placed an order for one too. Gotta wait till January for it!
🤘🏻🤘🏻
I might be missing some nuance here but the SQ-64 has sequence transposition locked to a selected scale and root. Pretty good for a device that’s in the $100-200 range nowadays
Hahaha you couldn’t resist! I know the feeling well. Enjoy, my friend! At the end of the day, you can’t take it with you. Still saving for my Syntakt-one day…
People should review a few studio compressors and preamps. Then the XY seems reasonably priced.
😂 There’s a Fender P Bass that costs almost as much as this and I’ve been tempted multiple times (just 4 voices and no MIDI or LFO😜)
Apples and oranges. You could compare it to a Kurzweil PC4 if we’re going to do that nonsense and the XY looks like a terrible spend. Same goes with comparing it to an iPad and software synths. More for less.
A high end PC and $500 of plugins would work as a serviceable replacement
@@MidlifeSynthesist or an ESP Japan custom guitar for 6-8k and 4k custom guitar amps.
@@finctank yup unless one is playing live performances for a living or wealthy. I rarely play out now so no need.
You better hope your wife doesn’t break your other arm!
That’s the real risk right there😂
@@MidlifeSynthesist Ha-ha! We can explore more on generative qualities than. But yes, you better start with "Look Honey No Hands" and it still can play LOL
🤣😆🤣
this is such a played out trope and is really a terrible joke at this point. HAHA The ol' Ball and Chain am I right!?! I have a such terrible relationship with my spouse that my purchasing habits cause consternation in my relationship! isnt that soooo funny!
@@robokid13 I wish it were a joke. It’s pretty real in my world. I think you could have a great relationship with your partner, and gear that’s $1k+ will put a strain on the best of relationships, imho.
It will be interesting to hear your take. I hope you have fun exploring the XY.
Thanks so much my friend! I’m hoping it’s a fun ride as well!
Well, I certainly can’t afford it, but getting to watch you get one is a decent consolation prize. Looking forward to your future videos on it!
I am saving up for one as well. 😅
❤ Having to save for something you want, regardless of how long it takes is something that I (maybe incorrectly) feel doesn't happen enough in these modern uberfast times.
Awesome💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Cool ! I look forward to the comparison with Deluge
Bring it on! And I hope you continue to recover well!
Very excited for your video on it!
Plan to pick one up myself as it looks way more suited to my workflow and has all the features I felt the OP-1 was missing. Really miss that UI design and the fun that TE offers with their products.
Would love to see content on FX and midi sends through pedals as I’ve not seen that yet. Also in depth content on the sampler modules!
Congrats on the XY, looks so dope!
Functionality vs M8 tracker is the comparison I want.
That is first on my list!🔥🔥
Totally! That's the one I would compare. Though we also need to take into account that some people do not have 100% vision 🤣
@@samprock lol. I have V2 coming Tuesday. That screen is definitely bigger than XY
@@lebronsinclair8012 But font is smaller LOL I'm "lucky" did not want hassle with preorder on M8, but I was at the order page for a week. That would really put me into even more financial crisis planning on XY ...... with new big a$$ Muse sitting here at the table 🤣 But will be on V3! One feature in particular attracted me to chain numbered patterns (or scenes or phrases, how they called it there). I like to make full structure for a song right there in mobile device. Spoiled by decade of playing Korg Gadget. XY has song buildup feature too. I did not like that on Polyend Play+ (or Circuits, or VerseLab), too many things to copy/paste (the flip side if preset per patten flexibility).
I thinking of dropping my m8 for this as it appears to solve a lot of my frustrations with that device (hate hexidecimal for example)
Sounds great, thanks!
Thank you! See you soon!!
I’m excited about a comparison video as someone who is selling stuff and saving for the XY.
Awesome!! I hope to provide some good info for you soon my friend!
I have the OP-1F, M8 and Deluge and am really looking forward to seeing how the XY compares. Do I need to give into my GAS, hoping you can help me...
😅You finally did it!
Enjoy it! Love your channel, really looking forward to seeing your review
Thanks so much for the encouragement!! I’m still wondering if I made a huge mistake😅 see you soon my friend!
Good vibes :) Really looking forward to your comparison to some other groovebox devices!
Thanks so much my friend!!
My last comment on this channel's previous OP-XY video led me to buy a 1010 Blackbox based on another viewer's comment so I have that going for me.
Lol! So cool❤️
I was undecided or even against it for a day or two, but after watching a couple of raw videos when someone created music on them, I bought one instantly. It's not that expensive for me, and it will be fun to carry around and play from time to time. I always appreciate well-designed things.
I bought mine from a local shop, so I'll have to wait a few weeks.
I can't wait for your review to come out!!! The moment they are available in the shop here in Belgium i am going to get me one for sure,Always wanted an op-1 but never bought it because of the workflow,Now with this sequencing style i can't resist anymore😅my Digitakt mk1 has to go now!
Thanks so much for the good vibes my friend! See you soon❤️
Look forward to the videos!
I said "I'm fckn getting it" day one because I know well its value for my music making, because OP-Z is in my bag for past 6 years. What I learned in past two weeks (incl. few days it pre-leaked), I don't have to apologize for getting it 😂 What I see/know/hear is an amazing forward looking device for music making. We still talk about love to music, right?
I'd love to hear more from you on full song making process (vs 4 bar beat). And regarding synth/DAW/fx connectivity + transferring project, so about continuity of music making flow (vs never letting your ideas see a light of day). What I do not want to see though is comparison to any MPCs, Electrons, SP-404 (huge), MC-707, or Deluge (no matter how you love it ;). While I have nothing against those, OP-XY is in totally different league and should not be aligned to any larger, no battery groovebox, even if you can buy 2 or 3 of those. Because if you compare anything to OP-XY it can be M8, MC-101, OP-1f/Z, EP-133/1320, or Polyend Tracker/Play, or Move, right? You would not compare OP-XY to Push3, and if you do, you can take Push to couch/backyard, but you will not drop it into your backpack. Fair comparison would be something as capable as Oxi + Vector synth for example. Though OP-XY is in one small package and with battery. It's also easy do the money math this way: capable sequencer + very portable synth == you arrive to a a same price very fast (if you even want to spend any more seconds on this nonsense) 😎
Looking forward for your impression on OP-XY, because I know you will be talking about MUSIC and GAS and Life of gear addict. Hopefully you can un-divide the nation with well informed and hand-on experience (no pressure). Maybe leaving some folks a leeway/helping hand who fell into trap of-overpriced-hipster-whining to finally look at the instrument and what it can do for them. Make friends friends again
..... but yeah .... OP-XY release is a serious test of tolerance and social skills, beside being GAS bomb explosion 🤣I'm still in shock. Because its a must for me and I keep thinking what else I'm selling to fund it .... just right after getting Muse that I'm not returning LOL
👏🏻 Sweet. Thank you.
He man, nice video.
I won't get one, but I want one ;P
PS, your voice sounds like it is clipping often (in all your recent videos).
Not sure what you're doing, but I'm assuming it's not the gear 🤣
@@tricks-and-tips thanks my friend! And thanks for the heads up regarding the clipping. I think it might be time to replace my current microphone with something else like a lav mic. Lots of love!!
@@MidlifeSynthesist
It sounds a bit like my Nikon D750 onboard mic does which seems to have horrible pre amps that are overdriven way too quickly.
Which mic + pre are you using?
lol that escalated quickly 😂
looking forward to review 👍
Where is it? We are waiting ❤
@@navedrops gonna drop the first impressions video today!!
No need to justify it, it was inevitable.
And I’m sure you’ll love it and hope you do.
Looking forward to the reviews. Like you I’ve been watching all the reviews. I’d love to know about exporting into a DAW (and logic specifically ) and how deep that is, ie can you export by track for processing post, and how easy it is.
Second point I’d love you to explore for me, as a guitarist, drummer, producer etc, I like the op-1f. It’s a quirky workflow, but I like it, and it’s more similar to traditional song writing. For that reason I think I’ve never truly clicked with any sequencer, and I’ve tried a few (not the oxy, but the hapix squarp, Elektron and a few others). So my question is, for people like me can you give some insights into op-1f vs XY. Not as a “one is better” thing, more of a; if you like this probably this one for you, if you like that, maybe the other one.
Whilst I recognise the TE stuff is a lot of money, I don’t think it’s ridiculous for what it is, the work that goes in and the total package. And also the resale values hold pretty good. So I wish people would focus on the positives or invest their energy elsewhere.
I think it’s inevitable the gas will get me and I’ll eventually get an XY, but I’m not sure if it will be as enjoyable for me personally as the OP-1f journey has been. Everyone is different and is inspired by different things.
Hoping our views help me one way or the other!
I sincerely love that this video is literally just about why you bought the XY, when you haven't even gotten it yet. Now the question is what happens at the end of the return period! :D
Now it’s time to make the ultimate comparison between two portable beasts: M8 vs XY!💥
YES!! That’ll be my first one for sure!
I hope you’ll enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. Though I have to admit, I had to send mine back because the power switch was defective. Unfortunately, it will take some time before the device is back in stock at the retailer. A typical TE story...
I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU AND THIS CHANNEL! I actually admire when you admit the MPC rip off story way back. But, you are the real deal. Only person in the game being real.
It's funny you'll have the unbiased review and i'll have the "i'm just borrowing it" one ... eventually - lol.
Need all pieces to have the full picture! Looking forward to your videos bro!
I'm not buying one, but I'm excited for you and hope you really have fun with it.
I managed to snatch a used OP-Z for less than a tenth of the cost of the OP-XY. Yes it was bend but a quick bake at 100C of the casing sorted that out. The OP-Z effects quality for example is not that great and it often sounds congested. I suppose that's where work in DAW comes in ideally with individual tracks being exported but I doubt it works ?
I hope you will compare OPZ and OP XY from an audio quality stand point.
You have to bake the op-z to unbend? Holy shit!! Is there a fix for the various button and knob issues?
@1dkappe " bake" was a slightly exaggerated use of language. You basically warm up the plastic and then use some calipers to fix it on a flat surface while cooling. I never had any of the mentioned button issues so far.
You would not be able to take it from me. Even I'm struggling to fund OP-XY, the OP-Z stays! 🤣
I'm calling it.
I'm curious as to what your thoughts will wind up being on such, but HOLY HELL HE ISN'T WEARING THE SLING! That's kind of a huge point in my mind, even if you're probably at the "able to take it off every now and then for short periods" stage. Either way, so glad to see such as it's a nice step to see.
If you have any Elektron gear, I'd love to hear comparisons against such tools as well, since the OP-XY is more expensive than a RYTM mk II, or even a Push 3 Standalone...
Yea man, you rule!
A life lived with few choices would be lackluster and boring. When seeking new gear I Iam happy that there is a huge range of equipment to research. Price is but another factor. I certainly do not get angry about the cost of top-tier equipment nor feel disdain for those low priced products that are copies made in far away places. Another unaffordable synthesizer is fun to check out yet I already know my DeepMind12 will have to do. It is what it is. Thanks for the video.
Good video. Are you not using the pro 3 anymore?
I WANT MY REVIEW NOW!
SO DO I!😂
I have and OP-1 and OP-Z but never bought a OP-1 Field as I considered it too expensive. Like you, I think the OP-XY has more to offer than the OP-1 Field especially as it's £1899 in the UK (only £100 more expensive than the OP-1 Field) but I still feel for that amount of money I would rather buy a Push 3 Standalone which fully integrates with a DAW and costs less. Interestingly, the Polyend Synth which costs 499 euros and looks like an Ableton Move, but with more encoders, pads and has a larger colour display, offers a similar capability where sequences are automatically transposed to a chosen scale, plus the note mode pad scale layout automatically changes to reflect that chosen scale. I am looking forward to your OP-XY review.
😅Yes, we need more details about the XY. So far I understand that it is based on the OP-Z which I absolutley love.
That being said, the OP-Z already has an "intelligent" transpose feature that can be sequenced. Didn't have a fancy name though. I use it all the time.
I am really interested in polyphony limits, note stealing in the context of all 8 machine tracks, recording off-grid and if its true that the resolution is 1920 ppqn. Which seems outrages.
And the quality of the master compressor.
Can it mix and produce tracks to be ready for mastering and publishing?
That would be deciding factors for me.
Thanks!!!
What’s funny is I have no intention of buying this but I am also intrigued about why it is worth that much to someone. I don’t understand what the big deal is and I wonder if I’m missing something.
Bro i mean... if it sounds like a million bucks to your year... why not? To me it's a thing i wouldn't buy for 200 bucks let alone two grands, but if people love it so let them buy it... Right? It's Christmas time around the corner. Make yourself feel good
Lol! You said it!😜 lots of love!
Finally someone who doesn’t want one with a measured response. 👏
I don’t begrudge anyone. I don’t see the value to me doesn’t mean I hate the thing or people who do. More power to anyone who can get that device for free cuz that’s all it’s worth to me.
I’d rather have the synth over your broken shoulder :)
If it makes sense a comparison between XY, Deluge and Seqtrak would be helpful. Thanks!
I’m here for it Brother!
Let’s Dance!😎
Quick question about the "brain" function :
Doesn't the Polyend Synth just have that ? Some kind of tracking/transposing melody ? Maybe I am mistaken...
I think it does have it! Apparently you can’t sequence it though. Gonna have to check it out! Thanks for watching!
OP-Z has it, as so many MIDI controllers or synths. Hopefully this time OP-XY turn it into reality by making it useable.
@@MidlifeSynthesist Yes you are right, no sequence it ! Damned. They missed that spot.
Anyway your videos are always super cool to watch and informative. Thank you !
Man, looking forward to that video pitting the XY against the Deluge.
Me too!🤘🏻
I’d like to see sequencer compared to oxi
All their devices look like a toy you would find an a toy chest. But with serious power. It's something you can truly play with and have fun with. I think that's why people love their stuff.
I love the OP-1 but so quirky workflow that cannot use more than to scratch out ideas. I am more productive with my Virus, Elektron and modulars. Hopefully the quirks for sequencing and use are better on the OP XY.
Nice video dude.
If anybody is looking at creating arps between different keys/scales, try out the polymath sequencer by novel music.
I've been waiting for an OP-Z Field for years, and the wait is finally over. The XY has been in development for a long time, and it shows. I think they've done a great job.
The whole debate about the price tag is a waste of time and energy. If you want one, buy it. If you think it's not worth it, skip it. That simple.
Anyone buying TE stuff abroad contributes to Sweden's current account positively. So, a huge thank you from Sweden!
And with the cost of their gear and the weak Swedish krona it's currently contributing quite a lot 😂
I’m glad I helped?😅
So you did it!! Yeah, it is just an amazing and modern piece of gear! Enjoy!
Indeed!!!
Thanks so much my friend!! Hope to share the good times soon!
@@MidlifeSynthesist Things come out of this thing real quick! You will love it!!!
😂 It was hilarious to watch your two videos back to back where you first say that you can't afford it and then you buy it anyway 👌I really can't justify it at the moment, but I totally get it! Looks like they fixed all the problems I always had with the OP-1 workflow and why I never got one. And honestly it's a bit funny for me that people complain about a 2K price tag. A pro double bass or a clarinette will set you back a lot more than an OP-XY. Behringer and Korg spoiled us with all their cheap entry level synths. The OP-XY isn't for people who buy Behringer synths, i.e. me. I take months if not years to justify a 140€ Behringer synth, so the OP-XY isn't a device that I will buy anytime soon. Maybe in a few years when I've thought about it for a long time and it's been in my shopping basket 20 times. Still unlikely though. I don't think I ever would have built my modular if I had to spend that much money in one go.
But does it have the cow?
It has slinky.
There is one thing with teenage engineering which has nothing to do with price. Their support is $hit! I have an original op-1, some keys are malfunctioning and I am unable to get a replacement keyboard for it. I have an OP-Z with double trigger issues. No rectification is possible. Great devices, but no responsibility. When you sell something expensive you must also provide value.
The OP-xy has the same computer laptop keys, they will malfunction!
I baby these devices. Both have original decksavers.
THIS 100%
I don't think anyone begrudges people who happen to buy it. I have enough money to buy it, but i'd never sink that much money on something that could get stepped on and destroyed instantly. I don't own a thousand dollar phone for the same reason - despite it being within my budget.
The hate shouldn't transfer to the purchasers, but I'm sure a few salty people do that. It's fine to hate the price vs feature comparison, and the company that's more of a luxury brand than a music company.
The problem is that this should absolutely be half the cost or less. I just don't see anything justifying the cost as far as internals and processors and such go. The R&D cost is also negligible considering this is more of a tweak on an existing concept and a lot of the groundwork for them was already laid out in previous products.
I'd love to own this, but I just can't justify it.
I work on software analyzing chips power, mechanical, heat, etc. Turning new processor every year for mass produced phones, pretty much the same phone, is one thing. What TE is doing investing so much work, delivering such solid hard/software for a niche product is truly brave and incredible. As RD I’d say they are heroes 🎉
And yes, I would nor recommend stepping on it, at least barefoot 😂 there is plenty of raspberry pi plastic boxes for that
I'm fairly neutral re: TE, but I do enjoy cattiness. Looking forward to it!
🐈 LOL!
That makes sense.
I just bought an MS-20 mini today I didn’t need so I can’t judge.
I have just alerted you that the brain is neither more nor less than what Roland's jd-xi offers; however, the punch in FX of the OP-XY, it is specific to the teenage brand and it is fun for the live!!!!
Another reason to distrust gear UA-cam reviews is that the algorithm is driven by GAS. If you want a trustworthy review, wait a few months on the new shiny gadget to see if anyone is still talking about it - or, better yet, actually making music 😊
This is actually a very fair point! That’s why this channel was built on long term reviews mostly🤘🏻 cheers!
@ I very much appreciate that focus (and that you are a great musician too!) 🙏
Once more unto the breech my friends...!
@The Midlife Synthesist, What I would like to know is if it can play audio files that are longer than the 20 second sampling time limit, if you load them on the OP-XY via USB.
You can’t. I’ve tried. Unfortunately… they copy fine, but when you try to use them, they just don’t load.
I’m writing all of these down!❤️❤️
that(yours) is the review to see!
Thanks so much!❤️🙌🏻
Op xy is the cybertruck of synthdom
@@SIAKPHDLIVE 😂😂 yeah I kinda get what you mean👍🏼
Idk about that. Did the cybertruck innovate the functionality of trucks? You can “use the trunk” on the xy. From a design standpoint, I can’t imagine a cybertruck in MOMA. But, cybertrucks make me 🤮, xy makes me 😊.
Given the dearth of content, I can't imagine they're selling that well.
This is the hardest I've ever seen someone rationalize a purchase :D
A purchase of a product he proclaimed not to be purchasing a week ago.
You sound like my wife😂😜
My ex wife told me it was over because she said I loved my gear more than her. My reply was “The audacity of you thinking such a thing, I would never pick you over gear!”.
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@ 😂🤦🏻♂️😂
@@MidlifeSynthesist You really don't owe anyone any explanation for buying what you want. But just for the sake of argument. If 1 of the 2 videos is "wrong" I would say it's the first one. No need to really say "I'm not doing something". I do appretiate your honesty and all the info, even if its "GAS got to me..... Tell my wife I love.... hee.rr.... ugh..." But as we say en mis tierras. No aclares que oscureces
@@daguito81 jajaja! Verdad! “El que explica se complica”😅
Haaaa, this is brilliant... did you do this stunt just to justify it to your better half? :) This is genius!
Seriously though, hope you are getting better, you sure do look better. Keep on!
love to see comparison with M8! did u check M8 model 02?
I did! Made a video on it if you want to check it out👍🏼 I ADORE the M8 mk2🔥🔥
Yes he's got a video of it, apparently it's a substantial upgrade over og version.
I like mine
Awesome!
did you make the music in the background?
Can’t wait to see what potential makes this worth the price tag or not. I’m also gassed with the brain transposition thing. But I just can’t afford it. Someday maybe. For now I’m just gonna save for live suite. Max for live devices are calling my name.
I’m curious to see just how “life changing” this thing is as well! Hope I’m not disappointed!🫢
I would like to know what is special about it in terms of workflow. Special in the beneficial way. What are the unique functions? I mean try unique. What are the features that are not unique but highly sought after-- and already exist in other- like sample chop. And how are they better in those device? Faster? Less editing to get to something you like? Etc…
You owe nobody an explanation. Looking forward to you stuff! To those considering the OP-XY, Detroit Modular is always running 10% off deals on their gear. No shipping or tax in most states. And they are nice guys (I'm not affiliated with them - other that being a customer. Just trying to help out the peeps who want an OP.) I'm curious about the file system compared to the FIELD. I haven' gotten my head around it based on XY reviews - looks like you can create folder hierarchy? That's handy.
I'm not mad at you. I'm interested to hear how you like it
I love it, but I found a bug. If you record to a file, and let it max out at 20 sec. time, the file exists but has no sound. Have you seen this?
You are right - Shimmery talks about it in his sampling video
I for once believe there is way more value in this device compared to the OP-1 Field. But other than that, the OP-XY seems more like a happy accidents device to me, full of random generative tricks. Not so much a device you would use for focused track design. I think that's more the realm of deicated workstations like the MPC.
I am confident someone will still complain, thus proving it's not about shilling. It's straight up hate with a side of jealousy. If these devices were $200, cats would be all over this.
Do you. They can kiss the baby.
UA-camrs should be paid or receive free gear to promote a company's product. I find it super weird that so many are willing to review and hype a piece of hardware just to create UA-cam content. You're essentially working for free. It's one thing if you bought a synth and are showcasing your gear, but it's another thing to do an entire review promoting a product for free and then send it back. I love your videos. Sorry for the rant.
@@biggrime hey there my friend! No worries, I’m buying it because I’m interested, and making content is something I love so it’s a win win👍🏼 plus, I’ll only be “promoting” it if I like it😜 might be I rip it a new one😂
Lots of love!
Good approach! While I certainly will watch your review, I will most likely not buy the OP-XY, for the very simple fact that I cannot justify spending that much money for a tiny piece of gear. I know size doesn't matter, but I just don't see myself spending that much time with the OP-XY to even justify $500. I just have too much great hardware in the house that fascinates me and that I haven't yet fully squeezed out. And, if I start thinking about what I could buy with $2300 from my want-to-have list, I start drooling immediately...
For people complaining about the price (yes - it's more than I can afford for a hardware synth) they should be glad they don't play timpani in an orchestra. You could buy 10 OP-XY's for a professional set of four timpani drums.
It's the same with other professional orchestral instruments, although not quite as extreme. Two OP-XY's will get you a bass trombone, for instance.
Good luck with your follow-ups on the OP-XY! I'll likely follow along because, even though I won't ever be able to afford one, I enjoy watching what people can do with these devices.
Not sure if you have any eurorack but I would love to see how the CV output can be used
XY features vs other similar gear, head to head :)
If I could afford one, I'd buy it.
Why not save up for one?
I’m in!
The comments on all these TE videos are a toxic cesspool. All the anger is based in something deep down that these people have. It can’t possibly be that these people aren’t just now finding out that there’s a whole world of stuff out there that they can’t afford or that doesn’t line up with their value proposition. $2,000 for a purse!?!? $20,000 for a purse!?!? Why would I buy that when I can buy X? Because the product isn’t for you… plain and simple.
Let’s look at watches… you can start with a nice JDM Seiko at $1200 (why would I buy the Tudor) then you make a bit more money and you save for the Tudor (why would I buy the Rolex), then you become more successful and realize Rolex makes great watches… you buy the Rolex (why would I buy the JLC)… then you become a bit more successful and you buy the JLC (why would I buy the Vacheron)… see where I’m going? None of these watches have more features than the previous or are any better at keeping time.
At every level of income, there’s a whole world of stuff you can’t afford and when you make it to the next level, then there’s a whole new world of stuff you can’t afford.
Well said👍🏼👍🏼
Of course you have a point but I think the reactions are not purely about the price or what we can afford. People also are riled up about the Ableton Move or the Yamaha Seqtrak which are cheap. It has just gotten so difficult to determine what will actually inspire you to be more creative and get some results and what is just a another box with buttons. all the videos of all the geartubers end with 'but if it is for you no one can tell you'. that is mostly because each new thing is reviewed as if it existed alone in the universe. i would love to see comparisons between all these groveboxes and their workflows between the different manufacturers and see some actual opinions about what people still use after a year. what is actually working as an idea starter and can properly translate to a daw and what is just a jamming toy which never will be used outside that box etc. for that it would be nessescary for a geartuber to actually be transparent about his worflow as a musician or at least do a jam with the device in question like Bad Gear so we can actually see it in use beyond the 5 features marketing wants to push upon us.
There's also a lot of positive toxicity when it comes to TE stuff. With a watch, you know the limited functionality of it. You're not buying it for its functionality. A synth, however, you are buying it for the functionality and features. It's not solely a price thing or some type of psychological envy that's at play. For the price you have to look at its features, build quality, functionality, etc and compare it to the market. Why should I spend my money on something that is severely limited in features, not so great build quality, and have to fight it to get basic controls and features (like undo control, more tracks, assigning effects to different tracks instead of just the master) that an old $200 macbook air with some cheap or free software can handily do without a sweat and all without having to learn a new piece of gear? One could argue that those who spend $2300 on this are coping with an overpriced and limited piece of gear that has no excuses to not include basic functions and features.
It's all subjective though. People are allowed to criticize things. You're still allowed to like it and do what you want with your money. You can still make amazing stuff with it. Just remember to not attach your identity to the gear and to not take any criticisms towards it as an attack on you.
@@joergbrathauer2302good points, but the people buying OP-XY aren’t cross shopping the seq track. I think that, even with the build issues, the OP-Z is better than the seq track.
The XY also has features that my DTII doesn’t have.
As for the build quality…. I’ve only had it for a few days, but I did own an OG OP-1 and I can tell you that the build quality is pretty great. Better than any other handheld. I’ve also owned the M8.
In addition… I think that if people genuinely didn’t care or just didn’t see the value, there wouldn’t be nearly as many negative comments.
I just want to read through to see interesting insights and 90% of what I see is people’s useless opinions about the price of a device they’ll never own or even try.
@@OroborosEternalLifeit does 95% of what the Digitakt II does and does some things it doesn’t do. Sound locks on the DT are pretty great, the DT has more send effects per track, and it has more tracks (non polyphonic).
XY has half the tracks but they’re polyphonic, 2 send effects (instead of 4), less modulation, external send effects (not on the DT), a better song mode (IMO - maybe a bit less powerful but more usable), and a workflow thats also a bit quicker, and velocity sensitive keys. I’ve also been an Elektron user for a long time. Not a hater (I own many), just sharing some differences.
Is it super expensive? Absolutely… but people calling UA-camrs out for not talking about the price being a major downside is dumb. Their job is to tell you what the thing does. You decide if the value for you is there. Just like any other product.
For me… I have a little baby and I can’t make it down to my desk much anymore. I value being able to do most of what my existing setup can do from bed or from the couch. The lack of a screen on the OP-Z made that not really an option for me and I like the workflow of the XY so that’s why I bought it.
you find the way to buy it and don´t feel bad for the expense
Enjoy your gear MLSynth :-) What can I say...there's more expensive gear than this, and that's being bought too. I like the quirkiness and design/UI of TE's gear, but I think my limit for their gear is the PO-133, might get one in the future. For now, I recently cleared my GAS savings account to obtain two Elektron devices, so I'm GAS-shielded and honeymooning the cr*p out of it.
Ok. You got you Gucci‘s 😂.
Next week - why you don‘t like them anymore. 🎉. Sorry for teasing you.
All good - hope to see your shoulder/arm is getting better.
Lol! Thanks for the good wishes my friend!! Look forward to the “I made a huge mistake” video😂
@@MidlifeSynthesist You wish! LOL I never saw Subsequent 37 disappeared from your background any video. It's that sort of love. You stack with it mate! 🤣
Lmao i love that you dedicated an entire video to explaining why you bought something from Teenage Engineering
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