SHORT: a Working Soda Syphon!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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Well, it happened again! No sooner did I publish my video on soda syphons, than did I come across a fully functional syphon complete with full CO2 cartridge! Time for a follow-up video.
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To everyone asking: no, 12g Crosman Powerlet cartridges won't fit in the syphon; they are a full 2 centimetres longer than the 8g syphon cartridges.
Just fyi, nitrous oxide (whipped cream) cartridges are 8g, and at slightly lower pressure, so they should be usable in the soda siphon. The resultant bubbles are much finer than carbonation, and have a slightly sweet flavor.
nothing a 3d printer couldn't fix
8g food grade CO2 cylinders are still available. Growlerwerks makes a modern version that uses them for dispensing beer and soda.
The *old style* Crosman powerlets were 7g (I have a 1950s vintage Model 170 that uses two of those) and should work in this syphon, possibly with a spacer behind the cartridge to be sure the needle can pierce the seal. Technically not food grade, but potentially toxic impurities should be negligible in 800 psi liquid carbon dioxide as packaged in those cartridges.
I also used to have a similar device to this, but intended to use nitrous oxide to make whipped cream. Starbucks still uses similar devices to put whip on their beverages, and I shudder to think how many nitrous bulbs they go through, worldwide, in a day...
My family used to run a pretty large construction materials company in the 2000's, but since it had to be downsized. I vividly remember plastic soda syphons being used by the workers, as intended, to get carbonated water. They were delivered in racks of 9 or 12, can't recall exactly, and once empty, they would be returned to the provider to be refilled.
Keep in mind, this was in central europe. Pretty interesting that these things spread so far and were used so long
I remember my childhood in Poland, after 1989, taking glass syphons to a basement somewhere to refill them from an old shop compressor being run by some dude. Much later I've saw the plastic counterparts from time to time.
You make the most intelligent videos, thank you. One small thing, once you release the CO2 into the bottle it is necessary to vigorously shake the syphon to mix the gas and water. The result will be much more sparkle in the seltzer.
You don't NEED to but shaking the container does speed up the process. The water will also absorb more CO2 when it's cold.
I love the sailboat-themed glass at the beginning of the clip. My family had those glasses in the 80s and 90s.
1960, over the previous 60 years. Way to make me feel old...
We are old.
I always enjoy your videos. The soda siphon reminds me of the whipped cream canister that we used for decorating ice cream sundaes at a drive-in in the late 1960s. Stainless steel container with a threaded top. One poured cream into the canister, screwed down the top, and added a CO2 cartridge (that looked a lot like that shown). The unit was inverted, the spout was touched to the side and whipped cream came out.
If you can get some new cartridges, I'd love to see you actually make a drink with it and compare it to store bought seltzer. The Tom Collins is one of my favorite cocktails
Standard cartridge, sold mostly to people who use airsoft guns and such, and also for a lot of models of paintball guns at the cheaper end. Just have to make sure he gets those with CO2 in them, not those withnitrous oxide in them, used with a very similar unit to make whipped cream, as the nitrous oxide does not turn the cream into butter.
Both syphons and cartridges are available from Amazon.
To have a genuine, fully operational seltzer bottle and not make an egg cream would be a sinful waste.
@@SeanBZA tbh the whipped cream cartridge, while it won't produce carbonated drinks, is a lot more fun in other regards :D
@@SeanBZAAlso, N2O dosen't have the carbonic acid taste, our you get a funny fizzy cream with a tingle. Pus N2O is fat soluble, so dissolves better in the cream.
(The CO2 ones are often used for portable beer dispensing systems. Though the screw in bicycle tyre refill type ones are used more for those now.)
"221 Baker Street?" "221????" Sir! "221B" Good grief.
I think it was 221B Aker Street. Yeah, pretty sure I'm right about that. 😋
Knowing Gilles, he will redo the video and reupload a replacement video because of this mistake 😁
We had one like this. It helps to shake it.
Seems a bit odd not to mention that a mixture of tartaric acid and baking soda is also pretty much (and sometimes exactly) what baking powder is, with cream of tartar just being tartaric acid;'s potassium salt
@FartGas-xe4yk which is the same way baking powder leavens bread. I'm not saying it's a critical omission or anything like that
>Not to be confused with the wood gas generators used to run vehicles during the world wars
the what? Sounds interesting
A couple of things, you need to fill the bottle with water, (probably a fill line). If you leave too much air in the bottle by only filling say half with water, you will not get carbonated water because the air simply compresses more and it doesn't settle into the water. Another thing is the colder the water the more co2 will be absorbed. And lastly, surface area and time both aid the carbonization process. So, if you fill it with enough cold water, then insert the co2, and then lay the bottle in the fridge on its side overnight you will find that you get much better results. Just an FYI as to why your water probably didn't seem like seltzer water. I doubt the cartridge lost co2 even if it was many years old.
Three stooges comes to mind.l.lol
Thank you.
Another great video, I absolutely love your work.
When we lived in Buenos Aires around 1990 we had a service that delivered bottles of carbonated water on a regular basis rather than a cartridge.
No milk deliveries, though I was confused at the milk sold in plastic bags (we would put the bag in a pitcher and cut off the corner of the bag).
Guessing here, but perhaps the one-way valve also prevents the cartridge from being forcefully ejected if you unscrew it.
Rechargeable soda syphons, without detachable cartridges, are still very popular in Hungary. A truck performs house-to-house rounds to replace empties. Flea markets sell all manner of prettier cartridge syphons.
I enjoy drinking seltzer water, but I can never see a seltzer siphon without thinking of Clarabelle the clown from Howdy Dowdy who would often squirt people with his seltzer bottle for laughs
Thank you for the video. I have one very similar but the rubber seal perished. Now it sits idle in the kitchen .
Is there a lever to allow the seltzer to shoot out or does it just pour out when you tilt it? It would be nice to see how it is supposed to work with a fully charged canister.
That is exactly the model we had.
Awesome!
We had somthing like this for whip cream.
That's my mum's siphon!
Ah, zee comedy wshter!
Thank you very much.
3:33 what is this and when your going to make an video about it?
you should be able to get new cartridges from a paint ball store should you not? My brother does paintball and his paintball handgun uses them. I know pellet gun handguns use them but I don't know if those are legal in Canada anymore.
I install industrial co2 bottles under my house for soda water. Change them every 3 years
So was this suitable for chemical fires, or just wood and fabric type of "classical" fires?
Just kidding, thanks for the follow-up, Gilles.
Excellent - Thanks!
☝︎ *yawns in European* - Smaller devices with the same cartridges are quite common here in Europe for making whipped cream. And for carbonated water, literally millions of German households have a "Soda Stream" device (or a similar device from another brand) with a large cartridge and a plastic bottle in daily use. The cartridge holds CO2 for ≈60 liters of carbonated water and can be exchanged for a full cartridge at almost any supermarket for about €5. Syrups for making all kinds of sodas (like Cola or Sprite) are sold as well. So no more lugging heavy beverages when you go grocery shopping.
yeah, but is not the same as actually having and using a siphon to mix your drink. In argentina bars and restaurants have them and leave them at the table.
@@PatricioGarcia1973 Yes, of course, a siphon is for alcoholic drinks and more stylish. I wanted to say that making carbonated water or non-alcoholic sodas at home with cartridges is normal here.
does that mean a modern food rated cartridge could be put on that and it would be fine?
yes
Is it possible to use modern CO2 cartridges in this or do they not fit?
Other posters say they fit just fine.
Do the modern 8g Ukeg growler cartridges fit?
All food gas cartridges are the same set sizes. the only time you have a fit issue is with threaded equipment needing threaded cartridges an some one brought a box of normal ones...
If you want to post the thread pattern and such ill take a crack at a 12gram compatible holder
Please try it with a new cartridge. Safely, of course.
FYI Do not heat those CO2 cartridges. Tossing one into a camp fire is a very bad idea. The resultant explosion can fire the cartridge many feet, and smash it through a window. Don't ask my younger self how he knows this.
made of glass, these must have exploded with shocking regularity, back when.
There's a reason for the woven wire mesh around the bottle. Containment.
@@smashoklw I'm aware, but there still had to be injuries.
Yum, vintage CO2
Arnt those cartridges the same as for air soft guns if so they are cheap and plentiful. Come on gilles we want to see a good cocktail made with a high(ish) pressure syphon
No: 12g air gun cartridges are a full 2cm longer than 8g syphon cartridges and won’t fit in the holder.
😅😅😂😅😅 :18
I picture your house looking either like the warehouse scene at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark or the library from the TV show "The Librarians". (fixed because I was dumbing)
Raiders of the lost ark. Temple of doom had no warehouse ;)
@@clifftonadams9923Thanks :) Fixed.
Don't know if it would still work, but used to be the CO2 cartridges for soda siphons and CO2-powered airguns were interchangeable. I don't know if they were supposed to be and if there were any safety hazards, but as a kid I would cheerfully steal some siphon cartridges from my parents to use in the airgun, and my dad would as cheerfully steal some of my airgun cartridges back when I'd bought some.
I think your Dad had the short deal as his CO2 cartridges probably contained pure CO2 where as yours for the air gun may not have been so......... I would have done the same given the opportunity.
@@Woffy. Could be, though we never noticed much difference in taste or length of use.
He went over this in the last video, but they're usually incompatible with soda siphons
You can also just buy the 8 gram soda cartridges. They are still made and readily available online.
@@Adamaspotestas In many air guns the 8 gram an 12 ones swap over fine, you just have to screw them in longer.
Cmon man i have work in the morning. You cant keep doing this to me
You're hooked, kid. Ain't no way out.
In the UK, we had a Soda Stream that used its own bottles with screw on lids. It used the same CO2 cartridge, and they did quite a few various concentrated flavourings. I have no idea if it's still available.
Maybe you should just publish videos on things you wish to find?
Can you fizz the soda with nitros oxide?
That green cartridge brought back so many memories!! There was one similar syphon at my parents house whem I was a kid
My parents had a Sparklets syphon when I was a kid, this would have been around 1970 I guess. I remember (or possibly misremember) that you were supposed to add a couple of tablets of "stuff" to the water before carbonating it. Assuming it's not just senility getting to me, what was that about ?
Probably to balance the pH of the water? When CO-2 is applied to water it becomes carbonic acid. Could be that your parents opted to add something akin to a Rolaid or Tums to balance the acidity of the water after charging the CO-2
I would of thought it would come out with more pressure
No soda syphons left behind!
I have no use for one of these but feel a strong desire to own one 😂
I find that with most of the things he presents!
I knew this would happen! And just as I made dinner, amazing timing.