Which Speakers Should You Power With an External Amplifier?
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I power left center and right front speakers with the emotiva 3 channel epa external amplifier and the surround sound speakers plugged into the av receiver
Right
I am using two separate amps in my system. I have the Emotiva Basx 3 this amp is driving my front left, right, and center speakers. I also have a Emotiva Basex 4 and this amp is driving the remaking speakers in my system. I have a Pioneer Elite AVR that is the brains of the organization. It is not being used to amplify speakers.
For many years I powered all of my speakers with nothing but an AVR and this worked well or at least I thought so. after moving to the Emotiva amps it is no comparison and I will never go back to just an avr. The amount of power those amps provide and the amount of overhead they have allows them to control those speakers so much better at high volume and the speakers can go from 0 to 100 in just the blink of an eye. Vast difference and vast improvement.
It’s like comparing a four-cylinder to a big V8.
Excellent video! Thank you for all the information.. 👍 I'm thinking of adding a 7 channel OSD Nero HTA7200
Buckeye definitely makes a 3-channel amplifier. I'm using it for my LCR. It is very quiet, stays cool, and provides 700w per channel.
How does it sound? Notice a difference
Yep don't like it just saying that's just my opinion..❤ class A/B.
@joekool5676 It sounds great on my speakers. My measurements are really good in my room.
Three channel Purifi buckeye is way to go for you LCR!!! you dont need to worry about it after that! The Nx500 Hypex will do as well , no personal exprience though ..
@@TheLkdude I have the Hypex NCx500 3-Channel 700W as well as the Hypex NC252MP 8-Channel 250W. So far, I'm liking both a lot.
I purchased an Emotiva 3 channel amplifier to power my front stage. I love the increased sound quality and punch the external amp provides over the AVR.
Michael I apologize if I missed it but it's important to note that when bridging the OSD only use this mode with 8ohm speakers as is the case with most amplifiers. The amp will see an 8ohm load as 4ohm when bridged.
Every time you open that screen!!! Such greatness with that JTR front stage!!!
😊😊😊😊 man it’s awesome!
Thank you for the kind words. It has been 18 years in the making but I absolutely love my setup where it’s at.
I totally hear you and agree. Just imagine opening that in your own room and just sit all day and look at it. There is just something magical about a beautiful front stage such as Youthmans. And the lights make it even better. Huge thumps up.
I have the Onkyo rz-50 7.1.4 system. With a Tonewinner 7 channel amp. I run the back height, fronts and center off the amp and the rest off the receiver.
All these years watching you starting off with $150 LG soundbar and sub thinking it was the best sound to pioneer lx 103 and with klipsch 5.”2” set up to Lx 505 with added front up firing and SVS Pb 16’s. Saw ur vid on Emotiva BasX so I get amp for LCR to now Anthem AVM 70 with 4 height added to ceiling, OSD HTA 7200 and 5200 for a 5.2.4. lol now I’m looking to adding 2 more surrounds and JTR subs. It never stops but I love it. Gaming and movies just sound so good. Such a different experience with more power and separates.
Thank you for taking the time to go over why you would want to add amplification and on which speakers. I have two questions.
The first comes from your description of how much the center channel is tasked with. Can a single speaker (even a high quality center) really do the job it's asked to and perform as well as the two fronts would if a center was not used? Doing a "Phantom center" setup.
The second question comes from the sensitivity rating of a speaker and figuring out how many watts it is really using to hit reference levels. If my speaker's anechoic/room is 89/92db and my mlp is approx 12' from the front stage, is it just as simple as multiplying by 4 and the speaker is using 4watts to hit 89/92db at 12'? It must be a lot more complicated than that, because then wouldn't most avr would seem to have plenty of power? Thank you in advance!
I have a legacy Sony TA-N9000ES Amp that I recently bought to pair with my Sony 7000ES AVR.Im running 7.2.4, & I put the LCR & Surrounds (5 channels) on the Amp, while the rear surrounds & 4 heights are run thru the AVR. While the sound didnt improve (I dont buy into the notion that amps improve the sound), it definitely made my AVR alot of cooler, which is of much greater importance for me.
I used a Tonewinner AD7300 7 channel amp for the 7 main speakers and left the 4 Atmos speakers to the receiver in my 7.2.4 setup.
anthem avm90 + 2x Arcam PA720
Power all your speakers... Obviously, the LCRs depending on the speakers will take more power, However applying power to surrounds, rear and ATMOS speakers will complete the experience...
I have been tempted to add an external for the lcr for some time now. Currently running x4800 avr for a 5.3.4 psa system. I've also been staying away from forums (and videos like this) because it usually just leads to a purchase...if i could afford/fit jtrs I would've had them a decade ago.
Great video and info mate well done thanks for sharing 👍🔈🔉
here's a question you didn't you didn't mention. does it make it sound better when you use an amplifier?
I’ve never experienced a night and day difference when adding an amplifier. But there are absolutely improvements to the sound.
Speaking of subwoofers, I'm just curious...It seems my subwoofers only activate if the volume is set to "x" or higher and if listening to is louder and I turn it down after a while they just turn off (like if I'm listening to music really low while trying to go to sleep - it helps make the ringing in my ears less noticeable). Is this normal?
What's a more cost effective Amp?
Power 3 front speakers leave surround and Atmos speakers to the receiver
I'm with you. You put that simply and more elegantly than I could have.
When leaving future comments of my wisdom for others to consider, mind if I steal that? 👍😎
I do the same I explain to people head room is needed so more draw less headroom
Just use powered active studio monitors with balanced outputs. Plain & simple!
I'm going with an emotiva basx3 with Onkyo rz-50 with Polk r-700,200, 400 Svs subs. 11.2.4
The RZ50 have 11 channels processing how did you get the extra 4 channels
Are any of these amps made in the USA?
Love your videos. Quick question: I've got a Marantz SR7500 avr and my front stage (LRC) are Linns (AV 5140's and a Trikan) which are all 4 ohm speakers. I believe the SR7500 is 8 ohm (nothing in the documentation). I'd like to add an external amp like you suggest and wonder if getting a 4 ohm amp would improve the performance of the Linns. Happy new year!
I am going to throw in a tangent here..For music lovers as well.
How about connecting a integrated Amp, using HT bypass.
That way you get your amp for you Main right and lefts, say full range towers. You get to use that as part of your home theatre.
Also you are getting an opportunity to run a stereo pathway with a different dac + streamer, which are normally higher quality in stereo. I.e marantz model 30.
This would allow you to reuse the same amp with the same set of front for two different pathways.
Of course the center would not be upgraded.
Thinking of going this direction.
I have heard of guys doing that as well.
That is currently what I am doing, I run my right and left Focal Sopra 2's using my Hegel H390 using HT Bypass...works flawlessly
How do you bridge the speaker on the amplifier along with the precut. Do you plug LF pre out to channel 1 and then bridge speaker wire to channel 1 positive and channel 2 negative? I need your help
Typically amplifiers that have bridgeable channels want you to connect the positive speaker wire of one speaker to one of the terminals of channel 1 and the negative speaker wire to one of the terminals on channel 2. Sometimes there is a switch to let the amp know you are bridging two channels. Here is an example - ua-cam.com/video/D2hJYTnYUKw/v-deo.html
@Youthman thank you!
Even though I have a flagship Marantz SR-8012 (Eleven channel internal amplifiers) I also have a Emotiva 3 channel amplifier powering my LCR.
That works.
What if you want to BI AMP FL and FR, then add CENTRAL speaker to an external Amplifier (5 Channel)?
Thanks for the video Michael, I have already made the the journey from pure avr, avr plus external amp and now to prepro. I found there was a reduction in noise floor and increase sound quality from avr to prepro. Is this attributed to change to xlr or overall better electronics in prepro?
I have bowers and wilkins speakers, a center two towers woth a subwoofer. My problem is when i play music loud it gets distorted. So to my understanding of your video, an external amp will solve thst problem? Oh yea and i got a demon av
My Denon 6015 only gives me an option for all channels to preamp out on the amp assign in Audyssey. Can you just power the left center right speakers on a 9.1 setting?
I understand that the Monoprice Monolith provides enough power to drive your JTR speakers. However, do you think using higher-end audiophile amps from brands like McIntosh, Hegel, Trinnov, or Parasound, and using them for your main speakers while keeping the Monoprice for your surrounds and Atmos channels, would offer noticeable sonic improvements? Like such as a wider soundstage, greater detail retrieval, or a more "musical" presentation-especially for music?
Or do you feel that the Monoprice Monolith is sufficient for your setup, eliminating the need for separate high-end amps, since JTR speakers are sensitive enough to perform well with simpler amplification, allowing a single 11-channel Monolith to achieve optimal sound.
if you could please let me know. thank you. the reason why I'm asking is cuz you mentioned that you're playing around with a Denon 9.
for my incoming Cinema 40 ( the 30 i not available in Canada yet ) - I think I will be powering my front 2 stereo ..and use the AVR for my height.
I wish the amps were as versatile for set up as the Anthem Matrix system. .. selecting which I want to be Pre and not .. instead of all pre on or off. ( I mean turned off )
Congrats on the upgrade!
I've a onkyo channel 5-1 AV for bedroom what should I upgrade to if I were to please?
I’m a fan of Denon, Marantz and Anthem.
So informative…keep’m coming, these are great.
1 question…if your avr put out 100w/channel…are you wasting your time with any amp that is only 100W/channel? Should you run an external amp that’s twice the power of the avr?
I’m only talking about front, right, center , sub….nothing else.
100 watts pr channel in 2 channel is ok but when adding more speakers. The power will go down alot. Remember they always measure 2 channels. So example. My marantz is 9 channel 125watts but when i play movies the power will be around maybe 75watss pr channel. So an amp for your front stage will do wonders. Thats why i got Crown 2502 for all my bedlayer speakers. Again my speakers are 4ohm and very power hungry and as Youthman said. When the sensetivity is below 90. It would be wise to add some more power. Hopefully my comment came out right.
I got a 7.1 onkyo but I want a couple more channels. what can I do to offset that get an amplifier? emotiva
If your Onkyo is only capable of processing 7.1 channels, you would need to upgrade your AVR to a 9.1, 11.1 or 13.1 if you want additional channels. An amp will not fix that.
Treated myself to a basx a3 & a4 for Christmas 😉 letting the Aventage power the bed layer surround’s.
Massive difference to headroom & clarity, harshness is gone 👍🏼
Hi bro my name is Taz. I am your good friend. I want to know one thing .My system is 7 .2.6 my receiver anthem mrx 1140. My three channels LCR run anthem mca325. Now I want rest of 8 speakers amplify. My question i will by osd Nero 7200 or emotiva xpa 7 which is good? My speakers all Martin Logan.
If I have a spare channel unused, would it improve my center to bi amp it and leave the Left and Right as single amped? Example LCR wattage would
Be L150 C300 R150…
I have no clue if this makes sense or not. Just speculation and unsure how to research it
I’ve personally never heard a difference when bi-amping speakers.
What if your amp is only 90 (Monoprice 90x 5)watts a channel and the Marantz 7015 is 125 wats a channel? Would i still use my amp on the front sound stage?
Both of my systems i run external amps. In my living room i hav Two 3 channel and One 2 channel amps all Evotima!! In my basement i hav Five 2 channel and One 2 channel amp. Evotima, Crown & Mackie.. All speakers are connected to amps..
Great upload , in the process of sorting out new gear for my Dedicated Home Theatre Room I’m building in my new home .
Let's say I have the Denon AVR 6700H, which is an 11.2 AVR, and in addition I have the Emotiva XPA 6 Gen 3 amp, and my current setup is 9.2.4 = 13.2. Can I add an amp for two more ceiling speakers, or do I need to upgrade the receiver to a 13.2 one?
The 6700H can power 11 channels, but can process 13 channels. But your current 9.2.4 is already a 13ch system (9 bed layer plus 4 height). So you are already maxed out with it's processing capability. If you want a 9.2.6, you would need a 16ch processor.
"The two ADI Griffin Lite DSPs support the most advanced 3D audio suite with up to 13.2ch processing of Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, DTS:X Pro, IMAX Enhanced and Auro-3D."
@@Youthman That's what I thought, so Denon AVR-A10H, here we go...
So it doesn't matter if i use 4 ohm and 8 ohm speakers on the same amplifier?? It is better to separate them right ??
I have a denon x6700h and i want to offload the mains
But i want to change the klipsch in the near future for 4 ohm speakers (kef meta) so kef is 4 ohms and others are 8
Absolutely not. You’ll notice your speakers are typically rated as 8 ohm nominal or 4 ohm nominal. When playing music or watching a movie, you’re a speakers do not remain at eight ohms the entire time but fluctuate with varied frequencies.
AVR’s and external amps are capable of handling 8 and 4 ohm loads.
Just keep in mind 4 ohm speakers are more difficult to drive so it will be more taxing on your AVR if you go from efficient 8ohm speakers to less efficient 4 ohm speakers.
If all I have is 3 channels (LCR), and I decide to add an external amp, would I then be able to get a less expensive/robust AVR (assuming it has pre outs)? Or, since I’m only using a 3 channel system, would a good AVR be good enough? Like a Onkyo RZ30 or Anthem MRX540 for example? Also assuming my LCR speakers are less than 6 grand in total. Thanks!
Most AVR’s will have no problem powering an LCR
Hello.
Well, i started with Harman Kardon avr 635, with cheap audiovectors, that sounded very good at the time. About 3 years ago, i decided i wanted RF83's. That didnt work well at all. Found a Emotiva xpa2 gen2, after looking at your channel, Youthman. That worked well at RF83's. Then i got a deal on RC64 center, and rf82 for my rears. That didnt work well, on my avr. So last year, i got a package deal on xpa3, with Umc-200, that im using now. But center came alive with that xpa 3, and same as rears on my harman kardon avr 635. Last winter (still 2024), i got my second xp2 gen 2. Now i use on for each RF83 speaker, as mono blocks. I also got 4 subwoofers. 2x r115sw, and 2x sw115. Feel that sw115 makes me feel more of thw rumbling sound.
For me, external amplifiers is a must.
All of them.
Loving this series! I had been planning an amp for the bed layer and another for heights, but now I’m thinking maybe one for LCR and another for everything else. 🤔
Wondering about over-powering speakers. My surrounds and heights are Chane 740s - 92dB, 4 ohm, “suggested amp” 20-80W. The smallest Buckeye amp provides 250W into 4 ohms, and most other amps are easily 100+ W into 4 ohms. I usually watch movies at -10dB…what’s the risk of damaging the speakers? I feel like I’ve read that too much is rarely bad, just gives you the power when needed?
Short answer, technically yes. Long answer, it’s fine if you’re not listening at reference levels because it causes the preamp to clip way before it normally would and this is true even on the most current/best receivers. Which begs the question why would you externally amp if you didn’t want more volume? So my best suggestion would be to externally amp all channels and turn your receiver into your preamp only mode.
Don't buy a receiver if you're not going to use the internal amps. Just pay the extra money and get an AV processor.
@@fishis14 this is true, however, if you're building your system in stages a receiver isn't a bad option. Second, a quality, bug-free processor is considerably more than a Denon 4800 or Marantz Cinema 50. Which get you 95% of the way with internal amps to start. However, if you've experience a few setups and plan for separates in the future. You have the right answer my friend.
@@djparra41 I'm using an old Yamaha stereo receiver. It has 100w per channel and a subwoofer out. Unfortunately it sounds better than any affordable 4k surround sound receiver. I'd rather buy a used Anthem AVM60 than spend the money on a receiver with pre outs as only the premium models have it.
@@fishis14 agreed, I did that exact same thing for years before buying separates. I'm cheap so I have to be patience for deals to pop up in the secondhand market 😂
Nothing wrong with your “live long and prosper” hand explaining your bridging 😂
🤣🤣🤣 I had to get creative.
I wonder why Denon describse the AVR-4800H as a 9 channel AVR when it has 11 channels (plus sub) speaker and pre-outs? Is it internal amp limited?
If you look at the owners manual, you’ll see you would need a separate amplifier for your front left and right channels if you want to run 11 speakers.
Hah I clicked in just for the gee-whiz knowledge. Come to find out that’s basically my AVR! I have the 3800
Call me crazy, I'm good with that! I am blessed with 2 separate amps in my 7.2.4 system in my 14'x14'x8' living room. The L&R are powered with a 470wpc @ 4ohm NAD 218. It weighs 50 pounds. My 2nd amp powers all other speakers. It is an ELAN D12 amp with 12 channels, 100wpc all channels driven into 4 ohms. It weighs about 45 pounds. Yeah, I gave up on wattage and moved into tonnage. Hahaha! My friends and family think I've gone overboard with 11 speakers and 2 subs. I'm thinking NO WAY! The clarity and immersion is the best I've ever had and beats every commercial theater I've been in. And, I only play movies around 75 SPL average.
Buckeye makes 3 channels. Both Hypex and Purify.
Looking forward to hearing what you think 🤔 about OSD. How you compare it to your Monolith❓
If money were no object, what are the best components you would choose for a new home theater i will be building in a new house that I will be building The space is 18 ft wide by 28 ft long.
Hey Robert, that is a much deeper conversation than a simple reply on UA-cam. Feel free to send me an email at youthman@obsessedhometheater.com.
I’d be happy to hop on a call with you
Michael, thank you so much I have learned so much since I subscribed to your channel, I'm trying to build my home theater, I would like to know what your recommendations between an av receiver or an AV processor I have read a lot good stuff about the anthem AVM 90 and thank you for all the great video happy new year for you and your family
So, I ordered Emotiva mono blocks for my R-7000 Polk speakers, RZ-50, and I am looking forward to finding out the difference between the two amps, vr's, the RZ50 What do you think?
"Which speakers should I amplifier first?" 🔊...Almost all AVRs have Flatline amplifiers inside them, which will handicap any 4 ohm speaker by 3db in sensitivity and cause power starvation and heat within the AVR, so in theory, if you have a 88db sensitivity speaker with a 4 ohm resistance coupled to an AVR, then you will have 85db sensitivity, not 88db...On the other hand If you have an 88db speaker at 8 ohms, then you will still have an 88db sensitive speaker, hence amplifier the 4 ohm speaker ( if any ) First...
I LOVE this series on amplifiers! Looking at the Buckeye 3 channel Hypex NCx500 3-Channel. It has some serious wattage. If I used that to power my LCRs could I: Potentially damage my LCRs? Also would my LCRs be powered to the point where they would drown out the other 8 speakers in my theater?
Although that combination of providing really strong amplification to power hungry L/C/R could overpower the other speakers, if they are calibrated using the AVR's room correction algorithm such as Audyssey it will make them all play nicely together.
I know Michael is a fan of manually calibrating each speaker to 75 db using a high quality microphone. I haven't used the manual method because I'm lazy but this seems like a really good idea.
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Ah! That makes sense. Thanks
@@kennethhartshorn2689 I have this 3 channel amp. It all depends on what speakers you have(or want to upgrade to) and size of your room. You don't have to overkill the amp, rather put more money in the speakers or room treatment. Note these class d Amps do sound different from class AB if that what you used to. They very neutral.
Recently added a Basx 3 to power the front stage, leaving the rest to the X4700H
Kilpsch rf7 your thoughts?
Fantastic speaker, Ive had lots of Klipsch. I've never owned the RF-7 but I've listened to them.
I own the Klipsch RC-64 III, the matching center to the RF-7. It's great as well.
I wonder if Michael has anything from Obsessed Audio that competes in that price range?
How do u power with two channels.?? Like bi amping?? For centre then with one set of ports??
@@gowthamk5392 you can biwire at the speaker end
The amp is bridgeable. Which is different than bi amping. Bridging an amp combines 2 channels into one and doubles the power for that one channel. Bi amping is using two channels to power one speaker cabinet that separates the woofer from the tweeter.
Is tat bridging done with the small copper piece metal connector or setting done insde the amp !??
No, you just connect them to different speaker terminals to bridge channels. ua-cam.com/video/D2hJYTnYUKw/v-deo.htmlsi=lKunjOBo29D1jK0U
Perfect syncing of audio and visual is most important with LCR speakers. The more the sound is ambient/secondary the synchronization is less critical.
Height speakers are not a part of every movie sound track and require a less synced responce.
I have a nine amp Marantz so to complete the Dolby I added a stereo (2 channel amp, of equal specs) to power the rear height speakers.
Muchas gracias por enseñarme lo que estoy buscando. Un amplificador que alimente los parlantes frontales y el central. Saludos desde Argentina!!!! Thank you very much for showing me what I'm looking for. An amplifier that powers the front and center speakers. Greetings from Argentina!!!!
I have a 5.1 setup in the living room with my Marantz Cinema 70s AV Receiver connected to a Emotiva Basx A3 power amp driving front LCR speakers and then the Marantz Cinema 70s just powers two surround Left & Right Speakers, sounding Great to my ears, through Monitor Audio Silver Speakers and a SVS Subwoofer
I would like to ask a question about subwoofers. Since they have their own amplifier, does it mean they can be used with any receiver? i have an Onkyo TX NR6100 and I would like to add a Klipsch RP1200 but I don't know if it would be a good match...
Great videos as always.
Neo from Klerksoord in Pretoria, South Africa
Yes. To answer your question about mixing and matching, yes you can definitely do that. You will be the one to decide if they work well together.
Please look anywhere else for a subwoofer. Klipsch is not known for good subwoofers.
In my experience with high end power amplifiers (Meridian, Krell etc.) bridging is usually only recommended while doing so with 8ohm speakers. Can you confirm this OSD 6 channel amp is stable in bridge mode with 4ohm speakers?
The onkyo RZ 70 got at lot of nice pwr tbh. 170w 2ch stereo is ok for alot of speakers
Will you please give your opinion on Emotiva amplifiers I heard the older model were a beast but not so much with the New xpa gen 3. Thanks in advance..
What if the AVR has better power ratings than your amps? I'm using a Sony 7000es receiver for my LCR and 2x Emotiva BasX A5 for my surround/Atmos. Plan on getting the XPA3 at some point but doing this saved me money on the front end as the BasX line was cheaper
There's nothing wrong with that. Should have experimented, though
(just like me, a lazy bastard)
Now you've got the xpa3 coming, it'll fit into place perfectly.
Some things are worth waiting for.
Personally, I think out of all the Japanese AVR"s (the four I've lived with anyway), Sonys 2 channel stereo sounded the best. In fact, for an improved 2 channel stereo sound upgrade, I had to leave the Japanese brands by the wayside.
The sound of Sony will always have a place in my heart ❤
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I have a Pioneer Elite SC-LX701 receiver with a pair of Martin Logan ESL-X up front with Martin Logan Motion 8i as the center and a pair of Martin Logan Motion SLM as my rear surround hooked up wirelessly with a RocketFish which is only 5 watts. What amplifier do you recommend to push the Motion SLM’s and any other suggestions?
If wondering what sub it’s a Martin Logan Dynamo 700
I’m thinking of replacing the rocketfish with a ProAudio WSA-5RP-PLUS which will feed each speaker w 100w. Speakers are rated to 140w
I have 7.2.4 setup. I power front stage Focal 301 and 302 c with Emototia Basx 3 amp and focalm301 with Emotiva Basx 4 amp. Power 4 KEF atmos speakers with Marantz CINEMA 50. 2 SVS pb 2000 pro subs.
Michael, your setup uses three hundred watts per channel available to the front three, then let the AVR with 100 wpc power everything else? That should satisfy all but the most power hungry amongst us.
Even if a person doesn't have that much power available, I really like that idea of a 3-1 ratio when figuring out how to distribute the power. 👍
He doesn't use an AVR. He has a processor feeding an 11 channel amp. He uses separates. Your power numbers are correct though.
@@thefather414 "He who corrects my error giveth me a gold coin." Thanks T Father.
@@thefather414 I went back and watched the video again to see where I went wrong, You are absolutely right, of course. 👍
Looking to add an anthem 325 to my rf7iii/rc64iii front stage. My question is, being as I sit 12 feet away would I be able to tell a difference? My current avr is a yamaha a4a rated @ 110watts x 2 channel. My listening ranges from -20dbs through -12dbs off the front of the avr. The speakers sound fantastic all ready, I’m just scared I’m underpowering them and breaking something. My speakers are crossed over at 60, and currently only doing 5.1 total. Anyone have experience with the rf7’s that could give me recommendations? Thanks
I was hoping some of you home theater guys could give me advice.I'm a newbe. I understand that this hobby can get expensive. I have klipsch 8000f ii as my towers. klipsch rp center channel klipsch rp bookshelf. Monoprice monolith m12 v2 subwoofer. And sonance atmos ceiling speakers. I asked google ai about could I benefit from and amp and it said yes. I'm looking at the osd nero hta 5200 new or a used parasound 2205a that's older but in good condition. My avr is a pioneer elite 505. Trying to decide between the two. Thank you for taking the time to read this i know it was long. My budget is around 800.00
They say if you can't explain it as if you were explaining it to a 10-year-old, it's probably because you can't explain it.
I would just like to say you've passed with flying colours!
When adding a poweramp to an AVR, the idea is to try to keep things evenly balanced. For example, if one was to add a $10,000 power amp to a $2,000 AVR, one would still be hearing the $2,000 AVR.
A poweramps only job is to boost an output signal! Whereas with an AVR, is responsible for receiving & processing the signal. Even if an AVR is using external amplification, it's still the components within the AVR that will be responsible for quality the signal.
Boosting an already established signal is basically giving one more of what ones already got. Hence, try to keep the set-up evenly balance
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😅😅 Don't use different power to lcr. You end up with level match negative and others extreme positive in tuning. 😂😂 just amplify with similar power or amplify all with same power. End up with a nice even level matching in tuning! Fyi i power 100 watts to large LCR and all other smaller speakers and no issues with too much power for the smaller speakers. 🎉
Had my entry level system, and entering the realm of Complete upgrade....LCR, I'm going to look up the definition now. As well, I'm going to look up the power rating of each, 6 & 8ch amplifier...yet you're saying don't mimic him because Why? For beginners please...
Finished video Monolyth spelling my be wrong...don't add 4ohm & 8ohm loads from one Amplifier?
This is absolutely inaccurate. You can add an amp for your LCR with a different max power rating than all of your other speakers with zero negative effects. Your AVR or processor tuning with adjust the levels appropriately. Speakers have different sensitivities and need to be level matched according to that and distance from the listening position. LCR are usually larger speakers than surrounds and can take more power. Sensitivity may be lower as well, requiring more power to get the same volume as other speakers. Using a higher power amp will have no negative effects, just tune your speakers correctly.
@@LifeofBliss hahaah LCR left center right...hey noobs...okay, now I'll read your reply. Hope I comprehend!
***update don't use the Monoltlyth but one LCR amp then use the AVR for surrounds/rears/atoms, or another amp? If I asked the right question...follow?? Sorry
@@LifeofBlissYes , that absolutely right
My 7.3.4 sound system consists of 6 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains, 2 for the side channels, and 2 for the rears), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 4 SVS Prime Elevation speakers ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos, an SVS SB16-Ultra subwoofer in the rear and 2 SVS SB-3000 subwoofers up front. The system is powered by a Parasound Halo A52+ 5 channel amplifier powering the 5 bedlayer speakers and a Yamaha Aventage RX-A8A AVR powering the rear speakers and the 4 Prime Elevation speakers for Dolby Atmos.
Yeah.. Michael Lol, Which Speakers Please!!! ( Perlisten Or JTR Speakers???) OR THE NEW ARENDAL SPEAKERS???
Lol! I know, right!!!
If you going with aesthetic and looks I say either Perlisten or the Arendal. Perlisten are beautiful though
Perlisten is 10 fold better than JTRs. It s a bit better than new Arendals also 😊
@@filmses I am a huge fan of Perlisten. But you are WAY off in your assessment. Where in the world did you pull that 10X from? Apart from aesthetics, a JTR system performs as well, if not better in some areas than Perlisten. Both JTR and Perlisten measure extremely well. JTR subs will definitely dig much deeper than Perlisten.
@@Youthmanok I accept that 10x is exaggerated. But you should have been understood that it’s an exaggeration. 😊
But I am not agreeing in any way. Tell me just one model of JTR which has better FR or DI?
JTR is all about SPL. And they are extremely ugly.
Perlistens are much better almost in all aspects. Absolutely there is no perfect speaker, it’s all about choices. You know better than me. But overall Perlistens are MUCH better, until you prove me wrong with objective data not subjective opinions.
Btw, I love your videos, don’t get offended, it’s about speakers, not about your channel. Wish you best 🤗
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