How wide is your bench press grip? Did you know moving it to 2x clavicle length may provide MORE STRENGTH! . Shout out @muscleandmotion for the amazing anatomy graphics, @liztess for her bench press vid & @jenthompson132 for the education/collab!
The study you actually linked only showed 2x clavicle, super narrow, or collar to collar, which is not enough information whatsoever, please use better evidence in the future
This is a nice hack but if u want to know why this is actually the case its because the optimal grip width is when ur forearms are perpendicular to the ground at the point when your numerous is parallel to the ground. If your forearms are cambered slightly out at this point then ur grip is too wide lengthening the lever arm more than you need to for the movement. If your forearms camber in then ur putting more of a stretch on the triceps than you need too. The reason this clavicle trick works for some people is because on average the numerous bone is about the length of the clavicle, and on average most people will have a 45 degree tuck of the elbow meaning the distance your elbow is from your shoulder when viewed from the frontal plane when the humerous bone is at about parallel is roughly half the length of your humerous bone or half the length of our clavicle. The problem with this is that everyone has different proportions and a different degree of tuck so for someone with narrow shoulders and a long humerous bone this formula would not work.
@@GwynLionhart And with all the strange terminology, and completely misspelling structures. Sounded almost like an architect was trying to describe the movement.
@TeemoForLife They must be weak af bro, doesnt even have the intention to commit nnn. I mean, sometimes we just wondering how good god creation can be. No need to j*rk😅
@@ishady27The small black box on the front of her waist is a T slim insulin pump. Some type 1 diabetics use an insulin pump. Modern ones connect to your/our live blood glucose being tracked by a small monitor attached to the arm etc that then tells the pump how much insulin is required. You can also see her dexcom can on the back of her left arm. It's more complicated than that but you get the idea.
I can appreciate the notion of “if It works for you” because words have meaning. And the way you say things are the way people are going to take them. There are too many influencers today who present tips as fact and present that they’ll work for everyone. There is a difference between what works and what’s best, and I just wanted to point out that I appreciate some good perspective like this
Not kidding when I tell you this. When you bench, say you bench on Monday. Don’t bench until 5 days after, that would be Saturday. I use to bench Monday and Thursday. Now I take 5 days off. You will see a huge improvement. You’re 70 years young.
I always thought a wide grip was cheating, so I didn’t do that ! Eventually, I got a minor injury of my arm bone at my shoulder dropping slightly into a slight pit created by the arm bone cutting into the muscle at the shoulder 😢! DON’T DO THAT, a wide grip pushes the shoulders together which is what you want, MUCH SAFER !
Just use a machine sitting up or flys. You don't get enough benefits from benching real weight for the risk it's just a bad exercise you'll definitely end up with severe injuries if you do it regularly Shoulders wrists or elbows guaranteed and it doesn't work any better than safer exercises like machines
@@HamhocksUnlimited machines increase probability of injury when an untrained individual uses them to learn movements. machines do not make things magically safe, they help people who know what they're doing be MORE safe.
Wide grip is cheating as far as saying what u can bench… do what your comfortable with though but, if u can bench x amount wide grip and someone else can bench that same amount with the closer grip, he can out bench u if he used wide grip
Lol this is pretty spot on, ive been benching for about 7yrs now and ive tried many different grip lengths and my most comfortable is super close to this. Maybe just half inch in difference or less. This is great advice forsure to people that want the best grip. Its not too wide nor too close. Perfect length to push heavy
Old guy here. I used to LOVE the bench press. Very few ppl in the gyms I attended could ever out-bench me. Now, 50 years later, I’ve had to replace both shoulders and am weak as hell. If I could go back in time I would never bench press again. It’s NOT a great pec builder and there are many other chest exercises that are better. Leave the ego at the door and think about exercises that are safe for a lifetime 😮
It suggests but is it law? No. Theres things that study does not look at and that is the position you put your back on the bench, how low you bring the barbell down, elbow position, feet position, what other muscles are engaged in the lift (pecs, legs, back, etc.) and the barbell path on the rep. Another aspect of bench pressing as much as you can is how you grip the barbell. JM Bakley has the best explaination of that. I recommend anyone reading this to search him up on youtube because that guy is the goat of bench press technique.
That’s not really what’s he’s saying… by that rhetoric then the wider you go the easier it is no? Why doesn’t everyone just go as wide as possible if that’s the case? It has to do with the stacking of the forearms, not necessarily the width of the grip
This is something strength training has known for decades. Grip width that results in forearms being vertical at the bottom is the spot that recruits the most muscle mass for the movement. Grip width that results in the forearms being angled in or out at the bottom will result in less strength applied to the bar.
What you point out makes sense. But consider the fact that if you train in your weakest form then you will boost your strength in a wider range of hand placements. I suggest to always do the most difficult form to maximize your gains
I’ve seen videos highlighting power lifters and a good portion of the top bench pressers use a narrow grip. I think it’s more up to the individual’s body mechanics.
Plus if your goal is to be functionally strong rather than just brag about your bench, a greater range of motion is what you want. It’s like how plenty of guys load up the bar for squats… and then go down like 10 inches.
@@StillNightingale Thansk! It makes me think of how an easy way to increase your benchpress would be to gain 200 lbs of body fat. Range of motion gets cut in half, bench goes up! It’s not about how much you lift, it’s about finding the right weight for you to lift correctly so you can keep getting stronger. Who cares if somebody else is stronger? The only person you should be competing with is yourself.
@@mattlawson714 That went through my head. I could care less about the weight on the bar....I want the position that most activates the muscles trained AND lowers the risk of injury. The study noted didn't look at outcomes, just weight pushed.
The wider your grip the smaller the range of motion but if you go too wide it becomes unfavorable for your muscles to push. This is like a best of both worlds kinda thing going on.
This works until you start having shoulder problems from it. You will flare your elbows and put all the stress on your shoulder joint. Better to have a narrow grip supported by the lats with lower elbows towards the sides. You will bench much more safer but only after you developed the form.
I agree. I’m a close grip bencher and if you see my UA-cam short videos I’m near a 500 lb bench press by doing close grip. I was terrified of blowing out my shoulder or a pec and I NEVER get shoulder pain by doing close grip. Plus close grip outs your elbows in the strongest position being tucked more and have more power off the chest. It’s a win-win situation but most people are stuck in there own ways to have the open mindset of converting to close grip because most are gonna be slighter weaker in the beginning.
@ it’s biomechanically harder to tuck the wider the grip. This isn’t disputable. You may think you’re protecting your shoulders, but not as much as if you went narrower. And if you’re young, just wait, it’ll catch up to you.
@@absolutelysobeastnp. Anytime you want to try and find someone, just screen shot a frame of them and then go to google and use the google lens feature
I tried this a few years ago and immediately started developing shoulder issues.If you start to get shoulder issues from this change, lower the weight more or just stop. Please don't injure your shoulders because some research article says something.
It doesn't take scientific study. Anyone that has gotten on a bench press a couple times will know a wide grip and a arched back makes it easier. Does that build strength or muscle? Maybe to an extent. How about pushing yourself to stay on the bench and not shorten the stroke with a very wide grip? That is probably going to yield more for the effort.
One person that I could recommend for the low bar squat technique: Brendan Tietz. He has a 3 part series for the low bar squat alone. I’ve yet to implement it but the info he provided was SOUND. Especially the video for setting up for it, how you gotta find your grip width and actively cue external rotation. Good stuff, check it out boss.
Mid grip is the best. You can get more out of your triceps and chest over all. Was 25 years old 180 pounds pressing 350. The reason this is the easiest for a beginner is you don't have to go down ass far with a wide grip. I pressed 205 with one arm. I believe I know.
I'll never forget that I was sabotaged by my gym teacher. He told me to bring my hands in more when pressing vs what I was doing and felt more natural to me with a more wider grip.
This technique completely disregards other aspects of upper arm/lower arm, triceps, and chest muscle length, which means it cannot be concluded that the width of the grip brings any benefit.
I switched to a wide grip at 18 years old, I was stuck at 225 for a year. It used a lot more of my back along with my chest, problem was my back was weak so my bench went down to 205. After 3 months of the wider grip my bench was at 270, it works.
It’s a nice heuristic to find the grip where your forearm is perpendicular and your upper arm is parallel to the ground at the bottom. This will create maximum force in the transverse plane.
It depends on what muscles you're better with. Narrow grip is more chest, wide grip is more shoulders which i wouldn't recommend heavy weight on shoulders never ends well
I found out that this method isn't making you the "strongest," the reps are just easier to do. Actually if you can do it the hard (or more difficult) way without injury, you're actually going to be stronger. I found that out from my high school football coach (over 30 years ago). He told me that my grip width was more narrow than everyone else. Which I had a further distance to complete my reps. At first I was benching what everyone else was benching. When I widened my grip it turned out I could bench MORE than everyone else on my level while using the same grip THEY were using. Which means I was getting stronger by doing it the difficult way (the hard way). That's why I'm not surprised that guys like Anatoli are smaller yet stronger than muscle bound meatheads. Bodybuilding is different than STRENGTH training.
Years ago we did it instinctively, just by placing our hands so that when the bar touches the chest the forearms are perpendicular to the bar... Simple!
My shoulder are 18.5 inches.. If I double the size it will be 37 inches distance between my both grips of rode... Does it mean it will work for pushups and pullups if I keep that distance ?? 😮😮😮 Or i should consider elbow to elbow distance instead of shoulder??
Isn’t it pretty well known that the narrower your hands, the more stress and your arms, and the wider your hands, the more stress in your chest? Your chest is much stronger than your arms (usually) so naturally you can push more weight that way.
To simply put it. Keep your elbows at 90 degrees, while lowering the weight and this works equally well for shoulder press, lat pull down, pull ups, push ups
Nice. I noticed that it’s similar to having a 90 degree angel once the barbell hits the chest. It could a coincidence. It can show how emphasize on the 90 degree is important or power output and not just the stretch or the mind to muscle connection.
Matt Wenning, and Julius Maddox would both disagree with you, and they are two of the goats. As usual this is just more clickable than helpful. The reason there are elite benchers that bench more narrow right beside elite benchers that bench wider is because they found out that a closer grip spared their shoulders. The closer grip bencher that can train harder for longer than the wide grip bencher that chews up his shoulders will pass the wide grip bencher because he can make more progress more. That and shorter armed benchers can chew up their wrists trying to go too wide. Why don't you keep it real, and tell them, the biggest predictor of bench press strength is muscle in the prime movers. Trying to progress through technical adjustments is very limited. The return on technical optimization for pressing movements is smaller than for squats, and deadlifts. The wider grip might get you the next 5 pounds, or a few more reps, but you can only hit that button one time. After you switched whatever you got, is the maximum return, and it isn't much. They want instant gratification, but they need more muscle, and a fuckton of reps.
How wide is your bench press grip? Did you know moving it to 2x clavicle length may provide MORE STRENGTH!
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Shout out @muscleandmotion for the amazing anatomy graphics, @liztess for her bench press vid & @jenthompson132 for the education/collab!
Would you do one for pull up grip ?
Wouldn’t some of that be from less range of motion?
The study you actually linked only showed 2x clavicle, super narrow, or collar to collar, which is not enough information whatsoever, please use better evidence in the future
Thank you for always posting socials and credit for the athletes in vids!
You mean " first fingers over the tape" about little fingers? Or index fingers?
Came for the muscle mommy left because of the bench press advice
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good to know im not alone
Legit
I’m trying kiss up on her chest
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Clicked for two reasons
Disgusting 🐷🐽
Pretty women and the power of knowledge
The very perfect Liza Tessler First Phorm
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@@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 he was talking about 2 BIGG reasons😅
There are 2 big reasons to watch this short on repeat.
If he keeps making shorts with these thumbnails...I'm going to be jackkkked
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1st you think its interesting and wanna learen
2nd its the last short you watch on the toilet
@@Vico-Harry Lmao I'm literally in the toilet rn
@@yessinedellai4819Me too lol
These videos always give me two of my favorite things: a deeper knowledge of physiology and exercise and a semi
How are you managing to get a truck from this?
@@dthomas7931 He wasn't talking about a truck.
@@adventuretime3211 I know lol
That's three 😊
@@ishady27the knowledge is one thing, the penile turgidity is the second
This is a nice hack but if u want to know why this is actually the case its because the optimal grip width is when ur forearms are perpendicular to the ground at the point when your numerous is parallel to the ground. If your forearms are cambered slightly out at this point then ur grip is too wide lengthening the lever arm more than you need to for the movement. If your forearms camber in then ur putting more of a stretch on the triceps than you need too.
The reason this clavicle trick works for some people is because on average the numerous bone is about the length of the clavicle, and on average most people will have a 45 degree tuck of the elbow meaning the distance your elbow is from your shoulder when viewed from the frontal plane when the humerous bone is at about parallel is roughly half the length of your humerous bone or half the length of our clavicle.
The problem with this is that everyone has different proportions and a different degree of tuck so for someone with narrow shoulders and a long humerous bone this formula would not work.
There's something funny about seeing all these technical terms coupled with "ur" instead of you're. Good info tho
Good to know!
@@GwynLionhart I thought the funny part was the typo of humerus as numerous
What you said was one of the first hacks I figured out on my own (with the help of studying anatomy and levers anyway).
@@GwynLionhart And with all the strange terminology, and completely misspelling structures. Sounded almost like an architect was trying to describe the movement.
He can't keep getting away with this!
Pig 🐷🐽
He can, he will, he does.
Long may it continue
@@HeartlessKnave HE MUST
Jokes on you man 😂 he always does !!
Got me again! You coax me in with clickbait and then gave me useful information.
It works really well. Check your frames.🎉
The content for these videos is always so good that we let the baiting thumbnail’s slide haha. I see you Doc 👀
Content is bad. Everything he says is wrong.
Everything? On what basis are you saying that?
@@srsly4789 He doesn't know anything about training, just look at him.
Thank you for featuring me in this short! Very informative 🙏🙏
Wait wait wait are you the mega hottie at the beginning of the video?!?!?
@@sweetbobbyblissthat’s me! Thank you haha
made 50 guys fail nnn from this feature for sure
@TeemoForLife They must be weak af bro, doesnt even have the intention to commit nnn. I mean, sometimes we just wondering how good god creation can be. No need to j*rk😅
@@WordsOfWisdom77777no she’s not desperate
Key: Keep your forearms perpendicular to ground
Seriously, WHO WAS THE FIRST BABE ON YO SET!?? I think the arc on her back speaks volumes!!!
Right? I don't simp often but when I do HNNNNGGGGG UNGA BUNGA MOMMY
Liz Tess
@momurda14 Is that her name..? 😃
I have the same insulin pump! Love seeing diabetics in the gym, makes me feel like I can do it too, no matter the issues with blood sugars
What insulin pump
@@ishady27The small black box on the front of her waist is a T slim insulin pump. Some type 1 diabetics use an insulin pump. Modern ones connect to your/our live blood glucose being tracked by a small monitor attached to the arm etc that then tells the pump how much insulin is required. You can also see her dexcom can on the back of her left arm. It's more complicated than that but you get the idea.
@@ishady27the insulin pump is the little black electronic device on the first lady's waist band, which she moves when she completes the lift 👍
I envy your positivity. My T1 diabetes is impossible to control, and we're in full nose-dive over here. Good luck on the path, homie 🫡
@henrikhendrickson2375 are you on a pump/sensor? real time glucose visibility (IE sensors) is key 👍
I can appreciate the notion of “if It works for you” because words have meaning. And the way you say things are the way people are going to take them. There are too many influencers today who present tips as fact and present that they’ll work for everyone. There is a difference between what works and what’s best, and I just wanted to point out that I appreciate some good perspective like this
I'm 70 now but when I was 28 & 170 lbs I always used a closer grip .max 325 lbs.
Not kidding when I tell you this. When you bench, say you bench on Monday. Don’t bench until 5 days after, that would be Saturday.
I use to bench Monday and Thursday.
Now I take 5 days off. You will see a huge improvement. You’re 70 years young.
That's insane. I haven't even hit 2 plates yet and I'm 24. I gotta step my game up
I always thought a wide grip was cheating, so I didn’t do that ! Eventually, I got a minor injury of my arm bone at my shoulder dropping slightly into a slight pit created by the arm bone cutting into the muscle at the shoulder 😢! DON’T DO THAT, a wide grip pushes the shoulders together which is what you want, MUCH SAFER !
Get well soon brother!
Just use a machine sitting up or flys. You don't get enough benefits from benching real weight for the risk it's just a bad exercise you'll definitely end up with severe injuries if you do it regularly Shoulders wrists or elbows guaranteed and it doesn't work any better than safer exercises like machines
@@HamhocksUnlimited machines increase probability of injury when an untrained individual uses them to learn movements. machines do not make things magically safe, they help people who know what they're doing be MORE safe.
Wide grip is cheating as far as saying what u can bench… do what your comfortable with though but, if u can bench x amount wide grip and someone else can bench that same amount with the closer grip, he can out bench u if he used wide grip
Lizz Tess for those who are wondering
Bless you.
Man definitely knows what he’s doing 💀
My shoulders are BROAD! My hands are going to be touching the dang plates 😂
Bro will be racking and unracking weights while lying on the bench.
Clavicular measuring. Not shoulders. Your collarbone doesn't extend to the end of your shoulders.
That's a really good point!@@igwtaowm
Lol this is pretty spot on, ive been benching for about 7yrs now and ive tried many different grip lengths and my most comfortable is super close to this. Maybe just half inch in difference or less. This is great advice forsure to people that want the best grip. Its not too wide nor too close. Perfect length to push heavy
A wider grip also shortens the distance of travel. You've reduced the ROM
He didn't say widen your grip, just make it the right width for you as explained.
Old guy here. I used to LOVE the bench press. Very few ppl in the gyms I attended could ever out-bench me. Now, 50 years later, I’ve had to replace both shoulders and am weak as hell. If I could go back in time I would never bench press again. It’s NOT a great pec builder and there are many other chest exercises that are better. Leave the ego at the door and think about exercises that are safe for a lifetime 😮
Which exercises should I use?
Love this kind of research backed advice!! MORE PLZ
When he pulled out that measuring tape, I was like "Whoa" 😮👏
Wait till you look into the flawed research…it’ll set you back. Maybe one day
It suggests but is it law? No. Theres things that study does not look at and that is the position you put your back on the bench, how low you bring the barbell down, elbow position, feet position, what other muscles are engaged in the lift (pecs, legs, back, etc.) and the barbell path on the rep.
Another aspect of bench pressing as much as you can is how you grip the barbell. JM Bakley has the best explaination of that. I recommend anyone reading this to search him up on youtube because that guy is the goat of bench press technique.
Now please share this type of shorts for squats and deadlift.
Close grip is harder than wide grip. Thank you genius
Yeah, who knew
You had to go well out of your way to make this that simplistic.
It’s the poor bastards in your circle I pity.
@@westmcgee9320 not at all. you look at the movement it is obvious. you done a press before, it is obvious.
That’s not really what’s he’s saying… by that rhetoric then the wider you go the easier it is no? Why doesn’t everyone just go as wide as possible if that’s the case? It has to do with the stacking of the forearms, not necessarily the width of the grip
@ no. You’re missing something.
But clearly, we can both live with that.
The Doc is deff man of culture himself
I entered here for the muscular girl but this info is something I will try next session. Thanks.
This is something strength training has known for decades. Grip width that results in forearms being vertical at the bottom is the spot that recruits the most muscle mass for the movement.
Grip width that results in the forearms being angled in or out at the bottom will result in less strength applied to the bar.
What you point out makes sense. But consider the fact that if you train in your weakest form then you will boost your strength in a wider range of hand placements.
I suggest to always do the most difficult form to maximize your gains
I’ve seen videos highlighting power lifters and a good portion of the top bench pressers use a narrow grip. I think it’s more up to the individual’s body mechanics.
Plus if your goal is to be functionally strong rather than just brag about your bench, a greater range of motion is what you want. It’s like how plenty of guys load up the bar for squats… and then go down like 10 inches.
@@mattlawson714 SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT, AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT
@@StillNightingale Thansk! It makes me think of how an easy way to increase your benchpress would be to gain 200 lbs of body fat. Range of motion gets cut in half, bench goes up! It’s not about how much you lift, it’s about finding the right weight for you to lift correctly so you can keep getting stronger. Who cares if somebody else is stronger? The only person you should be competing with is yourself.
@@mattlawson714 That went through my head. I could care less about the weight on the bar....I want the position that most activates the muscles trained AND lowers the risk of injury. The study noted didn't look at outcomes, just weight pushed.
Wider the hand position, the lower weight pushed. Simple physics.
I don't think physics work like this
Clone that woman….2 billion times
Medium is best because it reduces injury, helps with lockout strength & builds massive triceps.
Or the forearm has to be perpendicular when the barbell hits the chest.
The wider your grip the smaller the range of motion but if you go too wide it becomes unfavorable for your muscles to push. This is like a best of both worlds kinda thing going on.
This works until you start having shoulder problems from it. You will flare your elbows and put all the stress on your shoulder joint. Better to have a narrow grip supported by the lats with lower elbows towards the sides. You will bench much more safer but only after you developed the form.
This. Stupid advice. Unless you’re a power lifter and want shoulder issues, stay narrower, tuck the elbows.
@dapper892 a powerlifter would tuck their elbows anyway!
I agree. I’m a close grip bencher and if you see my UA-cam short videos I’m near a 500 lb bench press by doing close grip. I was terrified of blowing out my shoulder or a pec and I NEVER get shoulder pain by doing close grip. Plus close grip outs your elbows in the strongest position being tucked more and have more power off the chest. It’s a win-win situation but most people are stuck in there own ways to have the open mindset of converting to close grip because most are gonna be slighter weaker in the beginning.
For me it’s the complete opposite. Hurt my shoulders going close and elbows tucked in. Wide grip and no problem, comfortable and safe
@ it’s biomechanically harder to tuck the wider the grip. This isn’t disputable. You may think you’re protecting your shoulders, but not as much as if you went narrower. And if you’re young, just wait, it’ll catch up to you.
I use 3 placements and this makes so much sense, thanks!
Bet you could skip some RoM with those
Pinkys on the stripes of a standard olympic bar is a great reference point.
Came for the bait - ended up measuring my collar bone.
“Dude what are you doing - why did you bring measuring tape…?”
“I’m measuring my collar bones”
And increase risk of injury as well. Wide grip fucks your shoulders if you arent careful
But who is she?
Liz tess
@@Achlys384thanks bro
Doing the work!
@@absolutelysobeastnp. Anytime you want to try and find someone, just screen shot a frame of them and then go to google and use the google lens feature
This really only works for small people. In powerlifting the legal width will easily be exceeded
I tried this a few years ago and immediately started developing shoulder issues.If you start to get shoulder issues from this change, lower the weight more or just stop. Please don't injure your shoulders because some research article says something.
She sure doesn’t skip chest day
ayy I recognize that powerlifter at the start - it's liztess/Aliza and she's pretty cool
Thank you!!
Always cracks me up when people contort their back like something out of a horror movie and then pretend they have good form and are strong.
Definitely works, but always be mindful of your shoulders.
Notice how his back isn't ridiculously arched and he had a full range of motion unlike the first person
That arch she had didn’t even let her get a full range of motion
Well the power lifters are all about that cheat
It doesn't take scientific study. Anyone that has gotten on a bench press a couple times will know a wide grip and a arched back makes it easier. Does that build strength or muscle? Maybe to an extent. How about pushing yourself to stay on the bench and not shorten the stroke with a very wide grip? That is probably going to yield more for the effort.
His forearms were perfectly straight on that first lift, seems like theres something there
He knows what hes doing with those thumbnail 👀
liztess
is what you are looking for
Great tip. 2 times the collar bone width is shoulder width at a 90 degree angle
One person that I could recommend for the low bar squat technique: Brendan Tietz. He has a 3 part series for the low bar squat alone. I’ve yet to implement it but the info he provided was SOUND. Especially the video for setting up for it, how you gotta find your grip width and actively cue external rotation. Good stuff, check it out boss.
Mid grip is the best. You can get more out of your triceps and chest over all. Was 25 years old 180 pounds pressing 350. The reason this is the easiest for a beginner is you don't have to go down ass far with a wide grip. I pressed 205 with one arm. I believe I know.
If you notice, that's why on the bar there are smooth shiny sections about a 1/4 inch wide.
Spaced on each side of bar to help in this concept.
There are many top competitive benchers who use a relatively narrow grip. Going wider can actually hurt your shoulders
That’s because a more narrow grip put a lot more focus on the triceps
No, it's because of the smaller rom, even when you grip 1,5x you still won't be limited by your triceps but 1rm will be smaller, but that's my opinion
I'll never forget that I was sabotaged by my gym teacher. He told me to bring my hands in more when pressing vs what I was doing and felt more natural to me with a more wider grip.
This technique completely disregards other aspects of upper arm/lower arm, triceps, and chest muscle length, which means it cannot be concluded that the width of the grip brings any benefit.
I switched to a wide grip at 18 years old, I was stuck at 225 for a year. It used a lot more of my back along with my chest, problem was my back was weak so my bench went down to 205. After 3 months of the wider grip my bench was at 270, it works.
Wow thanks again homie 👏💪🙏💯
Came for the muscle mommy, stayed for the bench press advice
It’s a nice heuristic to find the grip where your forearm is perpendicular and your upper arm is parallel to the ground at the bottom. This will create maximum force in the transverse plane.
It depends on what muscles you're better with. Narrow grip is more chest, wide grip is more shoulders which i wouldn't recommend heavy weight on shoulders never ends well
It seems obvious that the chest can output the most force whenever the forearms are at 90° at the beginning of the press.
I can’t handle all of that but by god I will try!
Which one
Great tip! Thank you.
Dude took away the muscle mommy in the first sec but you got me with the click
That thin smooth section on Olympic barbells is there for a reason.
I found out that this method isn't making you the "strongest," the reps are just easier to do. Actually if you can do it the hard (or more difficult) way without injury, you're actually going to be stronger. I found that out from my high school football coach (over 30 years ago). He told me that my grip width was more narrow than everyone else. Which I had a further distance to complete my reps. At first I was benching what everyone else was benching. When I widened my grip it turned out I could bench MORE than everyone else on my level while using the same grip THEY were using. Which means I was getting stronger by doing it the difficult way (the hard way).
That's why I'm not surprised that guys like Anatoli are smaller yet stronger than muscle bound meatheads.
Bodybuilding is different than STRENGTH training.
Years ago we did it instinctively, just by placing our hands so that when the bar touches the chest the forearms are perpendicular to the bar... Simple!
The first 5 seconds of this clip I can't seem to stop watching for 2 reasons.
Like he said, the wider grip is for benhcing as much weight as possible. Does not mean this is the optimal set up for hypertrophy
this guy is really teaching me against my will.
and I'm learning
Didn’t know I’d be treated to the delightful Helga Von Destroyer today but I’m here for it!
Opposite for me the wider my grip is the weaker I am but the closer my grip is the stronger I am
Absolute unit of a woman 😂
Thank you!
I'll try this!
I'm trying to press as heavy as I can, for strength. 😇
My shoulder are 18.5 inches..
If I double the size it will be 37 inches distance between my both grips of rode...
Does it mean it will work for pushups and pullups if I keep that distance ?? 😮😮😮
Or i should consider elbow to elbow distance instead of shoulder??
Arm length is a lot more correlated to the grip width than collar bone length.
A wider bench grip also makes it more risky of getting a pec tear
Bottom line, it’s where the forearms are perpendicular to the bar when the bar is depressed to your chest.
You are here because of that woman, aren't you?
Isn’t it pretty well known that the narrower your hands, the more stress and your arms, and the wider your hands, the more stress in your chest? Your chest is much stronger than your arms (usually) so naturally you can push more weight that way.
As a civil engineer I would think it‘s the distance between the elbows which matters.
Guys, we all know why we’re here
To simply put it. Keep your elbows at 90 degrees, while lowering the weight and this works equally well for shoulder press, lat pull down, pull ups, push ups
I figured that out in high school. Pound for pound, I was the strongest athlete in the school.
Thank you. I have often wondered if my inconsistent grip width is causing fluctuations in my bench press. I will definitely try this
Nice. I noticed that it’s similar to having a 90 degree angel once the barbell hits the chest. It could a coincidence. It can show how emphasize on the 90 degree is important or power output and not just the stretch or the mind to muscle connection.
WOW!!!🤯🤯🤯 Definitely Trying That Next Time
Bench twice body weight with this trick . Thanks
Thank you Sir!!! Tomorrow is chest day for me. I will be trying this!
Matt Wenning, and Julius Maddox would both disagree with you, and they are two of the goats.
As usual this is just more clickable than helpful.
The reason there are elite benchers that bench more narrow right beside elite benchers that bench wider is because they found out that a closer grip spared their shoulders.
The closer grip bencher that can train harder for longer than the wide grip bencher that chews up his shoulders will pass the wide grip bencher because he can make more progress more.
That and shorter armed benchers can chew up their wrists trying to go too wide.
Why don't you keep it real, and tell them, the biggest predictor of bench press strength is muscle in the prime movers. Trying to progress through technical adjustments is very limited. The return on technical optimization for pressing movements is smaller than for squats, and deadlifts. The wider grip might get you the next 5 pounds, or a few more reps, but you can only hit that button one time. After you switched whatever you got, is the maximum return, and it isn't much.
They want instant gratification, but they need more muscle, and a fuckton of reps.
Depends on your shoulder and tricep strength. Closer grip = more tricep wide = more shoulder.