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C3/C4 Corvette Showdown at the CAR WIZARD'S Shop
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- The 🧙♂️ CAR WIZARD reveals his new '84 C4 Corvette and compares it to the '82 C3 Corvette.
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The C3 will always be my favorite body style. Absolutely gorgeous.
Mine also.
I put run all kinds of shit out there on the highway. Teal expensive Lexus beamers and shit. Mustangs other vettes. They act surprised? They shouldn't be.. the 74 is a great corvette
Richard C3 lifetime
I have a c4 but I agree the body looks way better on the c3
I own a 1973. Love the "transition year". Looks stock, but too many upgrades to list here.
The C4 gets little love these days, but I find it to be a classic. I happily drove my 1990 ZR-1 in to work today.
GTOger Fellow C4 owner and huge fan of your channel from Denton, TX ! Keep those drums beating GTOger
C4 brotherhood!!! Beautiful cars!!!
My favorite ZR1 is the 90. What color do you drive?
@@mmmmcheese4850 Red. As God intended good Corvettes to be.
GTOger interesting I own a 90 coupe in...red of course. Your’s was a game changer though. My uncle had a 64 GTO; silver, black vinyl top, black gut, 4spd Saginaw.
My 1st boss used to get a new car every year. I still remember when he got the 84 c4..... because he let me drive it.... Yup. He let an 18 year old college freshman drive his less than 200 mile C4 to lunch with him, and he said, "go ahead, give it some beans."
That is so fucking awesome
Except it didn't have very many beans. LOL Great memory.
I've always loved the '84. Probably because Face in the A-Team drove one.
Don Pablo I suspected they jacked it up to a 45° angle to let him jump in it like he did.
Don Pablo true 😂😂
Sam Kinison died in his.
That shoe got me into Vetted. I thought I might be the only one.
@Kristoff Gerhardt Crap. I stand corrected. But he also drove a black C4 with personalized tag "EX REV."
I doubt that there will ever be a car as beautiful, and as difficult to live with, as the C3 Corvette.
C2
The c-2 was better locking than the c-3 and the c-4 blows the 3 away in performance.
@@dukeman7595 I disagree on the C2 being sexier than the C3. Aesthetics are purely subjective, after all.
As far as the C3 being a dog, well... yeah. That's part of what made them difficult to live with.
CHEERS! 🇱🇷
@@armedinbama We all have are favorites of course, however, I was fortunate to own a 1963 c-2 (first year of the c-2) 327 c.i. approx. 350 h.p. 4-speed, it was beautiful and quick. I also owned 2 1975 c-3s, one was a 4 speed the other an automatic. The 4 speed was worked, engine was putting out approx. 300 horse, the auto was stock and a big pig. In my opinion the c-2 was much more sexy and fast. However, I respect your opinion as well we all have different tastes, cheers..
@@dukeman7595 nope c3 for me.
From a styling standpoint, you simply cannot beat the C3!!
C2
The C3 is interesting because it always seemed like more of a design exercise than a performance focused machine. The C2 was perhaps a better balance between form and function. But the C4 was the beginning of the civilized Corvette that anyone could drive comfortably. And not only did the performance improve vastly over the years, I think the design aged beautifully.
C4's are very underrated. I had a later 89 TPI C4 here in the U.K. with the 6 speed ZF manual. A great car.
Steve Pickup if you enjoy hitting your head and feeling like you are 90 years old getting out of it. C4 is great!
Top Shelf Innovations I am 6ft 7, never banged my head on the C4?
I had one too, the one in my profile pic.
@@caseytbss You can say the same thing for most of the sports cars/super cars of that era.
@@caseytbss stop hating
enjoy your corvette no matter the year there a joy to drive
Wizard, you should do a video showing how that overdrive transmission works on the road
Yes and the all the relays and much more i have an 85 please show more about the corvette
I love how the tach shows your powerband
I am so happy that C-4s are finally getting recognized again as the ground breaking moment in automotive history that they were. I have owned 8 Corvettes in my lifetime. I currently have a 2000 6spd Arctic White Coupe, and an '87 auto Speedway White Convertible. My first, at age 15, was a '58 4spd, then a '64 auto, then a '76 L-48 auto, then an '81 Artic White Coupe, an '87 Red Coupe auto, a ' 93 Yellow auto Coupe, and to my current ones. Corvettes have marked my life at every point. While cutting my teeth on C-1s,2s,and3s, so to speak, it was the huge technological jump of the C-4s, that grabbed me for good. Most don't remember, but this was the first production car on the planet to pull a full G at over 70mph on a lateral skid pad without losing traction. It also marked a change in automotive manufacturing design to a modular assembly of parts. While the early ones are a bit harsher, my 93 was a great car, aside from that optispark bull.... and as much as I love my C-5, the engineers made many mistakes with it, instead of building on the principles learned from the C-4, they concentrated on the negatives of the C-4 and tryed to eliminate them. Still to this day, hands down. The C-4s clamshell is the best thing that ever happened to a car for serviceability. Once opened, you have complete access to everything and you can do most of the work while sitting on the tire, without bending way over. If you want bang for the buck. Nothing beats a C-4 Corvette. Even thrashed 1500.00 ones will give you a thrill before failure, while still outperforming 80% of the cars on the road. Oh and BTW. The ABS braking systems,we all are so used to now, from all manufacturers, were developed in the C-4 platform.
C4 is my personal favorite. I know the newer the better, but I prefer the old style dash from the earlier C4's.
It was very cool looking, sadly it was virtually unreadable if you took the targa top off
Scott Ireland I agree with you. I get tired of hearing people’s comments about how much better or faster the newer ones are. I love the c4, it’s the style I think of when I hear corvette. Such a sleek design with that digital dash. I couldn’t care less that it won’t run a 10 second quarter mile; not the reason I love em.
@@98triffid not really i have a 89 convertible and you can easily see in on a bright summer day, even with sunglasses on.
@@98triffid the polarizing film went out on mine so you cannot see it whatsoever unless the light hits it just right. I started shopping for a new cluster and they’re around 400 bucks:( I do agreed they’re cool but they’re just gimmicky to me. I’d much rather have an analog cluster that you can read easier.
Grew up with an 84 and a 89 corvette great cars and always have a place in my heart for them.
Mom had an 84 and 89 too.
Dad had 80, 97, and 07.
My brother has the 80 and 07 today.
Congratulations on your beautiful C4 purchase! Glad to see the '84 getting love! C4 Vettes are pretty sweet cars!
I love the c4, I own a 85 myself. I’m. It a big fan of the crossfire injection so I bought the year right after
I drive a 1993 Corvette daily, but I have a red c3 as well. I love both but I prefer the c3 body style.
Must be nice!
Nice!
Thanks guys! Also have a 71 boss mustang. The c4 is such a great bang for your buck car tho!!
A beautiful woman with a beautiful 'stang! 🥰 Please marry me..
I have a c5 it’s a great value but it’s a great summer ride
What was I doing in 1984? I was a young -4 years old yet. But I also used to have a model of an early C4 that I treasured, up there with my F40 model. Now, I've got my own '84 that I'm slowly getting back to fighting condition for autocross, track, and day trip duty. Thanks, Car Wizard, for taking us on a tour of yours!
Gotta love those C4 Vettes! I cant wait to see what you do to this one Wizard. Keep the videos coming on this sleek sportscar!
Hey man..from one Corvette owner to another I bought a c4 LT1 and drove several Crossfire engines. LT1 is much stronger but Crossfr still a blast to drive. Upgrades or not if its what you wanted fk the haters giving thumbs down. I love the channel and plz do more on the C4 in the future. Super cool guy w a very informative channel. Beautiful car man for an 84. ✌
I was a fan but now even more. I have that same shirt and am I’m on my 5th Corvette. I fell in love with the Corvette when I was four years old and a friend of the family had a 1978 black Stingray. I loved riding in it. I also remember seeing commercials for the 1984 Corvette back in 1983. It was a white one and I was so amazed at the technology. Glad you got an unmolested one and I’m looking forward to seeing the repairs to make it as good as it can be.
Mr. Wizard I envy your knowledge
I like them both, but seriously, the 80-82 just look wicked.
Driving them sucks tho...Hood too long. .. Interior too small
@@bilbobaggins4710 u crazy, that is what makes them so great!
I am very pleased that the unrecognized Chevrolet Corvette C4 is becoming a classic, and is gaining popularity.
I was hoping to see more of a comparison of the undercarriage between C3 and C4.
I've been fortunate to have had 3 corvettes in my lifetime. A 1970, a 1979, and a 1996. I think you're going to have a good time with it. Congratulations.
Awesome Corvette! It looks to be in fantastic condition! Well done!
Wizard, I say this is all due respect, but you and your wife have such mom and dad voices.
Hey man.....it's a soothing voice ok
Of all the car reviewers I’ve watched on UA-cam since 07’ I like yours the best. You give the back story of the vehicle, the context of the time when the vehicle came out, and your mechanical knowledge makes it all the better. Keep it up!
The most funny is this guy: Curious Cars
ua-cam.com/video/L3q9aquW0qg/v-deo.html
The C3 Corvette Saw the Peak of the Muscle Car Era, and The Height of the Malaise Era
In 1984 I was going with my dad to pick up his '85 Corvette.. I still have it! Glad to see you picked up one of these. Valve cover leaks come standard from the factory, Fel-Pro makes a silicone gasket that works a lot better than the old cork gaskets. The old Doug Nash 4+3 gets a bad wrap but it is more weird than unreliable.
I can’t help but feel happy for him. He seems to be a very nice person.
That blue 928 in the background is saying "David, I don't know what you are doing...."
Cocaine
My "new" 1996 C4 lives in love now....great show.
A 70s/80s kid myself, I always loved 'Vettes. Looking forward to more on the C3 & C4, thanks for the awesome content. Rock on, Wizard!🤘🎸
Wizard, nice ride. One of my favorite Corvette body styles. Good luck with it.
I have 1995 C4 Black Convertible, I love it!
SUCH A GORGEOUS CAR!!!
Congrats!
My 1st car was an 87 corvette, it was a fun car, it got me hooked on cars. You have a nice set of vettes there.
Very nice indeed!! I am with you on the radio. It's amazing the butchery that is done to cars by putting aftermarket radios in them.
Sold my C4 got C3 feels very light and comfortable.
Congrats. 84 was my first Vette. I remember the Super Bowl commercial that was part of the C4 rollout.
An impressive find indeed! Congratulations on your latest acquisition. Thanks for the video.
love you wizard, these videos are really helpful when doing research on cars I don't know anything about
Beautyful streamline brick. I always liked c4 and iroc-Z.
Ahhhh the 1984 Corvette....
The first time I saw the '84 Vette i was in the 7th grade and a saw an old lady driving a white on red. I thought these were the most gorgeous cars of its day (and even now). I actually test drove an '84 Vette back in '96. Couldn't afford to buy it then...lol
It had the Z51 suspension but I didnt find it to be bad at all. Maybe because I was just happy I was driving it at all. I owned an '85 Vette back in 2000 but had to sell it because I was getting married in '03. In a year and a half ill be turning 50 and I actually may buy a low mileage '84 Vette (same color combo). But definitely a C4...!!!
DID YOU KNOW THAT THE 1984 CHEVROLET CORVETTE WAS THE MOTOR TREND CAR OF THE YEAR IN 1984?
Congrats man! Can’t wait to see the build on this. Refreshing to watch a professional.
This video gave me a ton of things to look at when buying my ‘84 Z51 C4 yesterday! Loved every minute of the 4.5 hour drive home with it. Already has had a Richmond 6spd put in to replace the original 4+3. Thanks for all the info, and great video!
Absolutely spot on video Wizard. Great insight on the C4 (1984-1996) Corvette. Still drive the last model in this generation, a '96 Corvette convertible (seven fourth gens later). *Subscribed.*
Im loving my C4. Needs Flowmaster Super 10's!!!!
I own an 86 Z51 and it rides fine..it's not supposed to ride like a Cadillac..it's a sports car..
I daily an 87 z52, it's actually fairly comfortable for what it is.
Yeah that's because the 84 was the brutal one. They returned the suspension 85 and beyond.
@@mrdumbfellow927 still harsh but I love it
@@mrdumbfellow927 Yes GM was forced to retune the Z51 suspension on the 85 model due to the complaints of the harsh ride on the 84 Z51. Reality is they designed the Z51 to outhandle its competition and could be used on a track, the corvette needed perfomance cred. Bringing back the power in those days and meeting emissions/mpg requirements was in its infancy so handling was the focus. Every magazine test articles had skidpad numbers and comparasions back then.
A c4 Corvette will always be my favorite way to pass a kidney stone
Another great video CW. I always find them clever, entertaining and informative.
I graduated high school in 1984! Love Corvettes, specially C3 and C4. New sub.
Same....sucks being old
Good luck with that Doug Nash Wizard. Also you take that top off and you will experience some serious cowl shake. I love the C4. Owned 2 of them.
I had a 92. I'm sorry I sold it.
If you’re handy with the soldering iron you can replace the failed capacitors on the amp boards for almost nothing. I have an 89 and did all four for about $12 with Nichicon caps. The Bose system actually sounds really good for as old as it is. The C4 is genesis for the modern Corvette. Previous generations are donkey carts when it comes to handling and braking. The underappreciation of these cars makes them a stellar value.
C4s are my favourite, but those are two amazing examples of their respective generations. I especially love the white on red combo of that '84. Just like the original back in 1953. Happy you have your own channel Wizard! Cheers.
Nice clean car! Glad you got it!
Haha great rockin’ intro.
When I was 16 I drove a 68 convertible and fell in love with the C3, 27 years later I'm shopping for a C3 but started reading all the articles and tests on the C4 which was better than the late 70 C3 in almost every way. I bought a 90 C4 that was 16 years ago, love it. I also have a C6 but I drive the C4 more. You just feel a little better when your driving one.
The c4 will always be one of my dream cars. In particular, the zr1. Black on black. Manual. I love the retro “futuristic” feel these cars were going for all those many years ago 🥲👍🏽.
I miss my old 84 with the Greenwood package and the lingenfelter performance package
shane shannon lingenfelter eh? Did it take off and fly
Pay no attention to the UA-cam “expert” haters. I’d be extremely confident 95% of the “comments mechanics” hating in the crossfire injection have never even seen one in real life. The majority probably weren’t even born when it was made. Much less drive one. 😂
Brandon Clark Agreed. Most of them are going by what theyve heard from a friend. The crossfire is actually very reliable. Most mechanics talk trash about them, because they cant hook an obd 2 scan tool to it and have instant answers to issues.
@@CarWizard Wizard what is your opinion of the Cadillac 500ci engines from the early to mid 70's? They get so much hate but have a small following of people who build them in to torque monsters, would love to hear your educated opinion
I owned one of these (well... not a crossfire) and while it was fun to drive it was dam near uncontrollable at the limit. Got grip, got grip got grip aaaaaand then you start doing 360s. It wasn't even speed related. The car had a wonderful skidpad rating but if you hit a bump or a damp spot all bets were off
Looking into it, it just seems like an inferior fuel delivery system. Sure you can get similar crank hp as a tpi with work, but it just seems simpler to just start with the l98 with tpi if you’re putting in work. Is there actually a real benefit to the crossfire engine that I’m missing? Or is it a case of a serviceable plant that gets unduly trashed by ignorants? Looking into getting a c4 in the somewhat near future and would like to know.
@@CarWizard I inherited an 84 (same colour as yours) and I love the thing to death. it's an Automatic with the grey cloth interior but I'll be paying close attention to your videos to get ideas on how to help it's performance.
Congratulations! I love it! Have fun! You and Mrs. WIZARD!
Buddy that's a fine ride you have! The interior looked amazing! Congratulations, enjoy ~John
The 84 with Z51 package was also a brutally rough ride. They softened it in later years, at the expense of a reduction in the skidpad numbers.
I had an 89 z51 and drove a few 84,85,87 z51 and it is identical. Its horrible and just harsh. To the point you hit uneven pavement and the vettes shutter. I strongly recommend that anyone who wants a c4 stay away from the z51. It just not worth it.
@@dogsbark5750 '84 Z51 front springs were 582 lb/inch and rears were 499 lb/inch. '85 Z51's were 362 front and 326 rear. The rest are here: www.corvetteforum.com/forums/autocrossing-and-roadracing/3614054-c4-z51-spring-rates-codes-and-sway-bar-sizing.html
@@JesseOsby hahahaha yep...84 had the harshest spring and sway bar set up...Got a 84 Z51 rear spring for my 85 Z51 eBay ..Doesn't feel harsher tho
I have one and it is comically bad lol
although I love synth, it would have been predictable to play that when you pulled up
heavy metal was a great choice 🤘🏻
Beautiful car Wizard it's time's like this I wished I lived in the US and not across the pond. Will you be showing the work you do to the car.
With much respect Gary....... England
Cool car wizard! My dad had a black 1992 lt1 and getting to ride along with him in that with the targa top down made me a car guy for life. They’re very impressionable cars. I miss that everyday and wish I could drive one. Look forward to more 1984 content
congrats on the cool car, Wiz.
C3 is so much better looking, the C4 is so 80s too.
car wizzard is always so calm an chill i love whatching his videos just here him talk
Wizard, I approve... one of my favorite cars too.
And I was playing Atari most of the time in '84 :) much to my parents chagrin.
Diesel Cadillac? Love the Atari screen on your vette guess the shirt came along for the nostalgia.
The reason that the 1983 Corvette was never released to the public for sale was because California imposed a last-minute emission control law which delayed the debut of the C4 Corvette. The few prototypes that GM had of the car were destroyed, except for one which was saved from the crusher. It sits currently on display at the national Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Kentucky.
So true, 5500, I've seen it. Just sold my "85 4+3. Not really missing it..........Yet!
@@waukeshapilot6462 Funny you mention that. I had an "85 4+3 myself that I sold years ago.
California has been a menace for years.
No Jocks on this channel. Just mr Down-to-earth Wizard. Love it!:)
I turned 16 and got my license in October 1984. I've witnessed the renaissance in enthusiast cars from those dark ages to today. It really began with cars like that '84 Vette. Congratulations on the find.
Nice car wizard, excellt content .
i would watch more of this type
looking at older cars the pros and cons of them
ps hows the caddy getting on
Nice Vette Wizard - enjoy!!
And Happy Bday homie. I watch your videos daily. Bless and much success. Btw im almost 40 w kids and know the feeling. Keep it up
Hey wizard I know you don’t need any luck (because you can fix anything) but good luck with the car. I hope it’s everything you dreamed of when you were a kid. Happy & healthy new year to you and the family!
I've got a 1986 Z51. It rides pretty rough. Nice car though. Fully loaded, 4+3 stick. 70,000 miles. I bought it in 1988. Time flies.
Damn...Got me Beat.. atill have my 85 I got in 91
Wizard, do a comparison to the green 90/96 in the back of your shop to show how the C4 improved up untill the end of the run in 96. I bought a new 94 with the Z06 package.
There was no zo6 package for 94, or any c4.
Well spotted , your are right , it was a typo O, I should of typed ZO7, adjustable suspension package
FWIW, there were 43 1983 corvettes built and there's only one left and it sits in the bowling green museum. The cars that were built were assigned to gm r&d until they were destroyed except for the one on display.
They're both gorgeous.
Awesome video. The C4 was so advanced for its time and I really did not know much about the early years.
Keep up making these great videos.
I'll take any C3 anyday in black
Congrats! Enjoy in good health. Always liked these cars. My uncle had an 86
Always good, Thank you Wizard. Nice Corvette.
gen 1 350's are so good you can build it anyway you want from a towing truck engine to a high rpm race car
Wizard,
When you work on the Bose Amps please clue us in.
Congratulations wizard, blessings!!! Love your car
Cool new ride Mr Wizard. Good luck with that beauty.
Wizard can easily unlock 300whp which would make this a fun car. But for now he should be careful with that tire shredding 150hp & 4spd+OD.. Atleast we know he won't LS swap it, maybe mid engine North Star swap but not LS 😁.
am i the only one who is interested in that Nissan Forklift?
Wanna do a RB26DETT swap?
Nope That's crazy D's favorite forklift use it daily
yes
yes
Put your hand up above the fuel tank on the C4 and you may find a build sheet. Frame is galvanised. Awesome car. I had a project one decades ago.
I love the C4, first Corvette I ever drove and really started my love of sports cars. Was lucky enough to drive a late model C4 while I only had a learners permit 😀. Maybe one day I'll actually own one but probably not until I have a ton more space.
Nice car Mr Wizard.
Peel out and listen to some Bon Jovi in the C4. You're my generation Wizard. lol
Steve Winwood, or Poison!!
Excellent example of the breed! Corvettes have always looked good in the "original" colors of white/red... I know that you're going to really enjoy this great all-stock beauty! Thanks for sharing with us... now, get ready for Hoovie's "new" car! I know you're going to love it! And in 1984 I had been married for one year and had just started working for Kmart-- driving my 1965 Mercedes 190D!
I remember how surprised I was when I drove the 4+3 model and it downshifted by itself when I got on it. I also remember my dad buying them for only about $3500 at the dealer auction around the mid 2000’s!
I never had any issues with the cross-fire-injection.
I had an ‘82 Z28. That Crossfire was POS
Love the C3, but the silver over black C4 is my dream Vette!
Nice find.... Love the red interior; glad all is stock.
WOW DUDE, THAT GARAGE DOOR, DAMN. YOU ARE NOT PLAYING AROUND..