OK I have not been on a fire truck in 50 years but here is my two cents 1. The fire is through the roof immediately deploy the deck gun and SLOW THE FIRE 2. While that is happening pull your hand lines and mask up 3. Shut down deck gun and go in to attack the fire 4. Get a ladder up so you can attack the fire in the attic ( fighting the fire in the Attic requires pulling down dry wall and its hidden) 5. Now that the fire is knocked down you can search for hidden fire and hot spots One man’s opinion
If its a confirmed fire, crews should be masked up before arrival. At least thats how it works where live. Standard crew is 6 people (driver/engineer, command, 4 firefighters). At least two of the fighters #1 and #2 will be masked upon arrival and will have the deck gun running in less than 30 secs. If a search and rescue is needed, #3 and #4 also get there masks on, take a deck gun and enter the building if possible. If a search and rescue is not needed (because caller has declared and assured everyone already got out of the building), #3 and #4 lay down a water supply from a nearby hydrant and then proceed with low pressure lines. If there are possible/suspected victims, there's always a second truck on the way that will take care of water supply after arrival.
@@ivowitkamp7587 'Fire Science " is overrated by your govmnt and media. It has turned into a scam over the last three plus decades. 'They" target advertise, dupe and sucker gullible tax payin' citizens. It's not all about them. This isn't rocket science_-_-
Yes, it was slow and errors were made. Some of the members are older, but you work with what you have and in some places it is almost impossible to get volunteers.
Been watching these Jersey Shore fire depts for the last 3 years.. They HAVE NOT gotten any better. Don't know why it takes so long to get water to the fire. Most of them move like they came from the local geriatric center.....
Bad yes, but I've seen videos that are a hell of a lot worse. I couldn't believe the absolute incompetence of first responders. I seriously thought it was a joke. One video I watched where a car was parked in front of the garage and they were on the scene 15 minutes, and I watched the car catch fire. Not one of them considered saving the car. I was thinking who the hell put these clowns in charge of a fire truck..It was embarrassing to watch. The fire superintendent should have been fired from his job...
At least they laid in this time. Usually they just put a line in a door or window until they run out of water. Pulling a second floor ceiling instead of waiting for the truck would be asking too much.
@@AnthonyCamano122 In brick they call the closest firehouse first which in this case was laurelton and herbertsville stations 23 and 24. its all volunteer in brick. so they gotta drop what they are doing and get to the house as fast as they can safely. in nj volunteers only run blue lights no sirens and they are alot older because no one wants to do this for free anymore.
As a former volunteer fire fighter, I know how chaotic a fire scene is, and never comment on these videos. However, this firefighting effort was one of the worst I've seen. I can't believe the old guy didn't make certain the connection to the truck was secure. Stopping an arriving apparatus for no reason? Unreal
Im NOT amazed that you failed to grasp that they had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set. Which is pretty good considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up. I say that because Ive found that you folks are often pretty ignorant on such things.
@@alexandersalarms5380 You are full of it... I'll donate $1,000 to the charity of your choice in your name if you can show me a video of "your department" 🙄 parking... packing up... stretch a 2.5 dead load... breaking it... making it... and then getting water on the fire in one minute.
@@darreni5917 tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about with out telling us.. that’s not “through” the roof… it started on the side of the house and extended to the roof.
The drone view near the end of the video says it all! The entire middle portion of the structure is destroyed by not deploying one of the ladder trucks immediately. Show this video to potential home buyers in this area so they can buy elsewhere..
I guarantee you that Home Insurance Company's in this Department 's city are watching videos like this and they're going to use them to justify raising Insurance Rates!
Confusion. Chaos. Anarchy. Disorder. Wasted manpower. SIX guys standing in the street watching a house burn down. No supervision. Pumper/plumper guy can't hook up a hose that doesn't fall off. Come on guys. I mean COME ON!
The house is obviously unoccupied and undergoing heavy renovation. What's the rush? This is a training evolution at this point. Engineer might be a night shift worker volunteer who is still groggy and trying to get their wits about them.
Imagine you are the homeowner watching those bumbling idiots trying to hook up hoses to water. What a shame. This happens in almost all of these NJ fire videos. 😡😡😡
@@pauljames5914 I saw a video where a guy was trying to put out a fire in an attached shed while the firemen were working elsewhere on his house and the police arrested him. Imagine that! It’s on UA-cam.
So you guys know it is standard procedure to move slow than to wear yourself out by the time you get to the fire. You becomes useless once you get to the flames. And when your carrying over 100 pounds on your back you should not be running anyway. Pretty much common sense.
Did you see how long it took for more trucks to arrive? The first truck would have been bled dry of water by the time the next one showed up. City of Madison, WI would have 3 Engine Co., 2 Ladder Co., Medic, and Command Car all on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire. Commercial would have doubled the Engine and Ladder Co. plus Medic and Command Car. First in Officer assumes command, all others to Level 1 staging with one Engine ready to take the hydrant immediately.
@@chrisroeben1085 _"City of Madison, WI would have... on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire"_ The sad part is that you actually believe the nonsense you just typed. Especially since MFDs own data shows their average is nearly three times your absurd claim. In the SE part of the city average times have been 10-15 minutes which is why there was a push for the new station. Add to that the fact that MFD is a career FD while the one in this video is all volunteer... And you are really making yourself look quite foolish.
I have Been Covering Fires For Over 12 years, In Many Towns and City's. I have Never Felt so Sad For A Community. They Need More Training and Real Chief on The Job. The Pump Man Was Not Someone I would Want on My Team. He Never hooks Up The Line Then sends Water??? Then 10 min at The Front door suiting Up and Didn't Go in With The Hose ,he sprayed The trash bucket out side??? What Is Really going On Here? Tell Them To Watch My Video's for Training They May Learn Something. Stay Safe Dizzy.
@@rapman5791 You Can Say That Again. If They Need Training Send Them My Way. I would Be More Than Happy to Help them out. There Community deserves Better. Stay Safe Dizzy.
I can't believe local officials can watch this and read the 1000s of negative comments and do nothing to improve the fire departments. I understand that they are volunteers but if this is the best job they can do it's time for all paid jersey shore fire departments. Volunteers are great for little rural towns but the jersey shore is millions of people modern shopping malls office buildings. If they can't handle a house fire what about a huge insedent with lives at stake. That home owner is paying at least 12,000 a year in taxes ,he deserves better.
@@dannycostello3129 these are not all volunteers your way too gullible. Volunteers are not goin' to operate millions of dollars worth of machinery aka firetrucks.
Volunteers certainly have the potential to be great firefighters, but you need to train and train and have an experienced and well taught chief and officer core, or your firefighters are going to end up like this. I do not understand how higher populated towns don’t train weekly, as it is certainly possible.
That was downright hard to watch, from the initial attempts at water supply to the fire chief stopping the first arriving ladder from a proper position, saving it for His own company? Wow, all this and no plug uglies?
I really don’t want to criticize any volunteer firefighters but this was hard to watch. I think 4 trucks are there and I don’t know how many guys standing around doing nothing. And the guy on the street emphatically telling the truck arriving to pull over here. Seems like it should have been an easy knockdown but not the case.
This is sad. It's even worse when you find out how high the taxes are in this town. Millions of dollars in fancy fire trucks but the houses burn down every time. Water puts out fires. It's plain and simple. Get the water on the fire ASAP. If you have no man power then use the deck gun until you exhaust the water supply you have. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL! Train the probie how to hook a line to the plug. How much training does that take? It would be better than standing around doing nothing. An immediate massive water dump would have worked wonders to slow this fire. Why was the first ladder, with a nozzle on it, not deployed but parked on the street taking up space? Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. They need a course in efficiency. All we hear about is how much equipment weighs and how its the excuse for everyone moving so slow. How about the extra 100 pounds around the waistline? Does a guy opening the hydrant need the "100 pounds of equipment" to open the hydrant? Maybe guys can start putting their equipment on when they are riding in the truck, so they are ready to go when they arrive. There is just so much wrong here. Stop wasting money on truck graphics, lights, and the like, and get some paid professional firemen already. God knows this county wastes enough money. I honestly don't know how the taxpayers stand for this. Look at the videos, they are all the same. Equipment out the ass and the structures burn to the ground!
Yet the house clearly didn't burn down, in fact the majority of the structure sustained no fire damage. Kinda shoots down your entire goofy narrative doesn't it cupcake.
It seems New Jersey is covered by a lot of volunteer fire depts. I’ve watched many of these JSFR videos and the response is all very similar. As of 2018, Brick NJ has a population of around 75k. I think it’s time for a lot of these municipalities to go to a full time trained fire dept. you either pay for service or pay higher insurance premiums. You pay the cost either way.
@@johnpotts8719 I think you peeps gobbling up that 'volunteer" BS are way too gullible aka suckers. No volunteer is goin' to operate a million dollar piece of tax payer funded machinery aka firetrucks. Sorry your kind fall for that and not buying fire science servants are short on money.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseutilize that deck gun then, it’s not rocket science, low on bodies? Get the big line into operation and get big water on the big fire.
I watch this channel ALOT but this HAS to be the biggest mockery of a fire department I have ever seen. The "driver" couldn't even secure a supply line, the firefighters just throw the entire cross lay on the ground instead of flaking it out.....just SO many mistakes and issues. Granted, the house is a total loss, but they did not even perform a P/S search...regardless of being told the house may have been clear and everyone accounted for.
Imagine being the homeowner or a neighbor and watching this happen in front of you, or watching this video afterward. Most people that financially support their local fire department typically expect things to get better once the firefighters arrive.
First, please realize that these firefighters are volunteers. That being said, Volunteer should not mean amateur. All firefighters, regardless of whether they are paid or not, need to strive to do the very best that they can. Let’s learn: Great to lay water supply from hydrant to fire upon arrival. Great deployment of a 2-1/2 hand line and quickly attack the external fire on side D. Unfortunately, they didn’t use the deck gun to knock down the fire ON the roof. Look at the windows and no smoke is emanating from any of them, so this is an external fire. Listen to the engine- it’s running at idle- plenty of capacity to run the deck gun. Several firefighters are standing, just watching and could have manned the deck gun. Both trucks should have deployed their aerials immediately and gone to work on the roof fire. Moral: let’s always remember that we have deck guns and elevated master streams, which are capable of being rapidly deployed and can 21:00 deliver large volumes of water (while hand lines are being deployed and additional manpower are enroute).
I am looking in from the outside, can you tell me why it looks like it is taking a long time to get the water coming out of the hose on the fire. I know you have procedures but is there anyway to speed it up
They had first water on the fire roughly two-minutes after the brakes were set. Which isn't bad at all considering that these are all volunteers... And the fact that they (rightly) chose to use a larger line that is not meant to be used for a quick attack
If the plan was to let the fire walk across the whole roof then great job guys! Also, kudos to all the packed up guys who held that front lawn in place! You made sure it wasn’t going anywhere! (24 years of service)
Looks like the house was under some sort of construction. Windows and door open, so the fire had plenty of air. Engine should have stopped at the driveway. Since they caught the hydrant, water supply is only a minute away, so engineer hits it with the deck gun 45 seconds while attack crew masks up.
I have read many of the comments and agree with most of them. They have beautiful apparatus and turn out gear. What they appear to lack is adequate leadership and training. It appears they have the "form" but need the "substance". Just my opinion as a retired paid and volunteer firefighter...
@@charliepress6629 So what you are saying is that you lack the capacity to stand behind your own assertions. Well either that or you read other comments and are simply repeating them because you think it makes you sound edgy. So which is it?
Can I ask a question? In a lot of these videos, I see guys pulling lines at structure fires then having to take a minute or so to put on their SCBA's gloves, hoods. The last volunteer department I ran with, if you responded to a structure fire, the nozzle man and the backup had all that stuff on before we got on scene. All we needed to do was pull a line and by the time we got to the front door we had water. Fire doubles in size every 60 seconds. Why do I not see other departments doing this?
Another embarrassing job by the jersey shore’s Vollies… 1st arriving engine thinks it’s more sensible to stretch a 2.5 to the D side with no exposure while knowing that this is an exterior fire that has made its way to the roof, extending its way into the attic… meanwhile it took the ladder company an eternity to get there, but it doesn’t matter cause they did absolutely nothing upon arriving.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseI watched this a few weeks ago, from what I remember absolutely no one on scene moved with any sense of purpose, it took forever to get water on the fire and if I’m not mistaken the FAO on the 1st due engine lost his connection at the intake because he didn’t secure it properly. I do see a lot of trash fire attacks on line so forgive me if I confused it with another video
catch hydrant, needs sense of urgency, deploy line to the D side and front door, Stop the fire from inside, supres from D side. fire is self ventilated so good vis / low heat. move with a sense of urgency
the angle that the deck gun would flow would put the water over the house and in the rear yard. If they put that 75' quint up, that ladder could have actually put water into the burning attic, or handlines into the interior and pulling ceilings below the attic.
Because at that distance and elevation the pressure required would make the stream overshoot the roof and be effectively useless at getting water on the fire itself. BTW... If you actually are trying to become a firefighter, let me give you some helpful words. Do you know experienced professional Firefighters know how to spot the phonies? Look for the ones saying "Where's the deck gun!" "Why didn't they use a deck gun?" "They should have used a deck gun!".
@@virgilhilts3924that’s why I asked because I’m super green to being a fireman I haven’t even graduated yet. I just wanted an explanation on the tactic used here so I understand it.
I WILL NEVER CLICK ON A VIDEO WITH ANY OF THESE GUYS AGAIN. I WAS A VOL FOR YEARS FOR A SMALL TOWN AND THE RURAL COUNTY IT WAS IN, WE HAD OLD OUTDATED EQUIP AND USED WHAT WE COULD GET TO MAKE WHAT WE DIDNT HAVE, AND WE WERE NEVER THIS SLOW. I CANNOT WATCH ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set. Which is reasonable considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up.
One line in. One person to hold the hose, the other with a pike pole. The rest of the "firefighters" doing nothing. Help arrives and immediately go in with extra lines. Did the original arrival crew only have two air packs to use and one pike pole and were taking turns to use them? Is that why they are standing around? Hard to watch. Most pathetic attempt at "firefighting". Shameful.
I mean deck is an option with the hydrant within 25-50 ft, but shit pull some lines take some hooks get to the 2nd floor pulling celiling and putting the fire out
No, Line of Sight for the Deck Gun. 1:14 is where the gun should have been. 1:50 is when tank water should have been hitting this. Not for long because it has a very limited Line of Sight on the actual burning material, but it would have slowed extension down considerably. Water started at 3:30. That's one minute and forty seconds after it should have been started. There should have been a line at the right-side window but where is the line going into the WIDE-OPEN front door so water can be fogged into the attic? 3:13 The clown watching the other two FFers could have been stretching that line instead of playing, Lawn Statue! 3:20 Another Lawn Statue that could have been pulling that line. No clue whatsoever.
I have the utmost respect for firefighters world wide, it’s a job that I myself don’t think I’d be able to do, and I’m glad that there are people in the world that can answer the call and do it. That being said; I feel like I could’ve put this fire out faster with a spray bottle. I’m not super familiar with firefighting tactics and all of that but I’ve watched enough response videos for even me to say “hmmm…they are doing this all wrong.” And in all of the videos I’ve watched I’ve never seen the hose pop off of the engine like that. What on Earth is going on here. If I lived in this neighborhood and my house caught on fire I wouldn’t even bother calling them. You could do more with a garden hose.
@@ShawnTheDriver Lol-in-USA yes used to be respectable public servant profession decades ago. Fire science has turned to the dark side. It's not all about them and dowsing flames with water is not rocket science.
So Sad !! Almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire. I wonder if these guys know they have what's called "A Deck Gun". If the first responding truck pulled up in front of the house, they could of significantly knocked down the fire with the deck gun as other units coming in could do the water supply. The first ladder truck arrived 11 Minutes after the first pumper got there, and an arial attack didn't happen until 10 minutes after the first ladder truck arrived. THIS IS EMBARRASING !! Glad I don't live there!!
Unlikely that a deck gun would have done much besides shoot up and over the roof into the back yard. They didn't even direct the 2.5", which was shooting from the D side all the way over to the B end of the roof and completely missing the gaping hole in the middle of the roof. Maybe they didn't want to flood the attic and collapse the ceilings on the interior crew, since that whole roof is looking pretty sketchy.
Most of the roof was engulfed before they even started doing anything! 3 trucks were on the scene and only a few were working on it. Glad it’s not my home!
Why does your area have so many fires, let alone so many engulfed buildings? My rapidly growing county has 20 stations across 2 departments serving 300k people and fires like this are far and few. Is it that these older NJ homes are more prone to fire? No doubt part of it is that many of the departments I see in your videos appear to be smaller and there is less uniformity in foreground operations between them(Literally as I typed this sentence the supply hose popped off the pump panel😭)
Just wanna say thanks for sharing this video I grew up on this exact street as a kid and my mom's house is literally right down the road. I first saw the short Instagram video you posted and when it said brick township I got a little nervous and then when I saw Lexington Drive my heart sank. And I immediately called my mom to make sure she was safe and everything was all good. Glad nobody was in there unfortunately that house is pretty much done. Thanks for all the work you do ♥️
OK I have not been on a fire truck in 50 years but here is my two cents
1. The fire is through the roof immediately deploy the deck gun and SLOW THE FIRE
2. While that is happening pull your hand lines and mask up
3. Shut down deck gun and go in to attack the fire
4. Get a ladder up so you can attack the fire in the attic ( fighting the fire in the Attic requires pulling down dry wall and its hidden)
5. Now that the fire is knocked down you can search for hidden fire and hot spots
One man’s opinion
Your opinion was way better than their reaction. It's sad.
They did all that. Unfortunately, it took them three weeks to do so.
I have no firefighting experience but everything you say makes sense to me.
If its a confirmed fire, crews should be masked up before arrival.
At least thats how it works where live. Standard crew is 6 people (driver/engineer, command, 4 firefighters). At least two of the fighters #1 and #2 will be masked upon arrival and will have the deck gun running in less than 30 secs.
If a search and rescue is needed, #3 and #4 also get there masks on, take a deck gun and enter the building if possible. If a search and rescue is not needed (because caller has declared and assured everyone already got out of the building), #3 and #4 lay down a water supply from a nearby hydrant and then proceed with low pressure lines.
If there are possible/suspected victims, there's always a second truck on the way that will take care of water supply after arrival.
@@ivowitkamp7587 'Fire Science " is overrated by your govmnt and media. It has turned into a scam over the last three plus decades. 'They" target advertise, dupe and sucker gullible tax payin' citizens. It's not all about them. This isn't rocket science_-_-
Take your time boys, it’s only someone’s home. Perhaps the old guy in charge of hooking up the hydrant supply line should think about retirement.
there is no one to replace him/her
and a TREE!
I’m embarrassed for this department!
Somone already wrote he's a retired volunteer, they are all volunteers, doing this for free on their own time
Yes, it was slow and errors were made. Some of the members are older, but you work with what you have and in some places it is almost impossible to get volunteers.
This is the most laid back fire scene that I’ve ever seen.
I can see it now: the FD takin' out their lounge chairs, and aiming their hose at the fire. The visuals, the visuals...
Rumor has it that this department never lost a basement.
Foundation savers
@@Badger1949 😆😆😆😆
Lol
And possibly the fence around the lot.
right???
Been watching these Jersey Shore fire depts for the last 3 years.. They HAVE NOT gotten any better. Don't know why it takes so long to get water to the fire. Most of them move like they came from the local geriatric center.....
Bad yes, but I've seen videos that are a hell of a lot worse. I couldn't believe the absolute incompetence of first responders. I seriously thought it was a joke. One video I watched where a car was parked in front of the garage and they were on the scene 15 minutes, and I watched the car catch fire. Not one of them considered saving the car. I was thinking who the hell put these clowns in charge of a fire truck..It was embarrassing to watch. The fire superintendent should have been fired from his job...
Painful to watch.
At least they laid in this time. Usually they just put a line in a door or window until they run out of water. Pulling a second floor ceiling instead of waiting for the truck would be asking too much.
@@AnthonyCamano122 In brick they call the closest firehouse first which in this case was laurelton and herbertsville stations 23 and 24. its all volunteer in brick. so they gotta drop what they are doing and get to the house as fast as they can safely. in nj volunteers only run blue lights no sirens and they are alot older because no one wants to do this for free anymore.
Deck gun? They laid in and had water for it.
As a former volunteer fire fighter, I know how chaotic a fire scene is, and never comment on these videos. However, this firefighting effort was one of the worst I've seen. I can't believe the old guy didn't make certain the connection to the truck was secure. Stopping an arriving apparatus for no reason? Unreal
You've never been a Firefighter of any sort.
@@virgilhilts3924 Oh here comes the troll.
@@michaeld.4521 👍🏻😂😂🤣🤣
@@michaeld.4521
Looks like fact hurt your feels 🤣
@@choppermike3329
Bitter because you couldn't find a single FD that would hire you? 🤣
Embarrassing to watch.
Mirror?
@@RLTtizMEyou don’t find this embarrassing?
@@RLTtizME
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the tucson arizona fire department enjoys fires like this. out in 10 minutes or less.
@@RLTtizME in the mirror, the window, thru the tv, no matter how you watch it its embarrassing
Holy clusterfuck, that's one of the worst attacks I've ever seen.
Not even a cluster fuck, more of a lolly-gag fuck
What attack?
Coming from the UK, I'm always amazed at why your FD almost waits for the house to burn down before putting any water on it.
Im NOT amazed that you failed to grasp that they had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set.
Which is pretty good considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up.
I say that because Ive found that you folks are often pretty ignorant on such things.
@@virgilhilts3924 Two minutes is two long ngl. Longest my department took was nearly a minute in winter conditions
@@alexandersalarms5380
You are full of it...
I'll donate $1,000 to the charity of your choice in your name if you can show me a video of "your department" 🙄 parking... packing up... stretch a 2.5 dead load... breaking it... making it... and then getting water on the fire in one minute.
@@virgilhilts3924 can do sir I will keep you posted.
This is not typical. East coast fire fighting is something else. You head west and firefighters understand the job and do it properly
That house is a possible total loss because the first fire truck response was ridiculous I can see firemen doing nothing
Possible?
@@darreni5917 tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about with out telling us.. that’s not “through” the roof… it started on the side of the house and extended to the roof.
That true
Taking a long time put the fire out
It was a total loss on arrival. Can't you see that it's already gutted and being renovated?
The drone view near the end of the video says it all! The entire middle portion of the structure is destroyed by not deploying one of the ladder trucks immediately. Show this video to potential home buyers in this area so they can buy elsewhere..
I guarantee you that Home Insurance Company's in this Department 's city are watching videos like this and they're going to use them to justify raising Insurance Rates!
@@k9spjack Right, and to be honest, I understand why they would. Volunteers or not, at LEAST have SOME type of plan and show SOME urgency. Wow.
Confusion. Chaos. Anarchy. Disorder. Wasted manpower. SIX guys standing in the street watching a house burn down. No supervision. Pumper/plumper guy can't hook up a hose that doesn't fall off.
Come on guys. I mean COME ON!
@@douglas2lee929 Lol-in-USA your 'hero's" and tax dollars at work. Tell your govmnt and media it's not all about govmnt servants.
The house is obviously unoccupied and undergoing heavy renovation. What's the rush? This is a training evolution at this point.
Engineer might be a night shift worker volunteer who is still groggy and trying to get their wits about them.
@@douglas2lee929 they are your 'heros" according to media, fellow govmnt entities and hollywood.
Deck gun.
I can’t watch these Brick fires, all I end up doing is screaming at the phone!
Never seen so many firemen just standing around doing absolutely nothing. You guys let this house burn down no good.😢
Looked like a union road crew
Imagine you are the homeowner watching those bumbling idiots trying to hook up hoses to water. What a shame. This happens in almost all of these NJ fire videos. 😡😡😡
If this was my house, I'd have grabbed the pre connect myself and ran with it!
@@pauljames5914 I saw a video where a guy was trying to put out a fire in an attached shed while the firemen were working elsewhere on his house and the police arrested him. Imagine that! It’s on UA-cam.
Did you notice that the house is in the midst of a heavy renovation and is pretty much gutted?
The lack of urgency coupled with the amateur effort is a complete nightmare.
They sure dont hurry to put out the fire. They walk around like nothing is happening.
Lets see you do better...
So you guys know it is standard procedure to move slow than to wear yourself out by the time you get to the fire. You becomes useless once you get to the flames. And when your carrying over 100 pounds on your back you should not be running anyway. Pretty much common sense.
@@mrbowlingalleywho’s carrying over 100lbs on their back?
@@Jimmythefish577 Try wearing full bunker gear, including scba's, and full tanks on you, that stuff is heavy
@@virgilhilts3924I did for 30 year's, unlike you.
Over 3 minutes to get water on the fire is unacceptable. Use tank water, and move with a sense of urgency. Let the second due tap the plug.
You haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about.
Did you see how long it took for more trucks to arrive? The first truck would have been bled dry of water by the time the next one showed up.
City of Madison, WI would have 3 Engine Co., 2 Ladder Co., Medic, and Command Car all on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire. Commercial would have doubled the Engine and Ladder Co. plus Medic and Command Car. First in Officer assumes command, all others to Level 1 staging with one Engine ready to take the hydrant immediately.
@@chrisroeben1085
_"City of Madison, WI would have... on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire"_
The sad part is that you actually believe the nonsense you just typed. Especially since MFDs own data shows their average is nearly three times your absurd claim. In the SE part of the city average times have been 10-15 minutes which is why there was a push for the new station.
Add to that the fact that MFD is a career FD while the one in this video is all volunteer... And you are really making yourself look quite foolish.
A hydrant and a deck gun, and no water on the fire.
Slow as shit!!
@@jackmeoff2396 if we only had a large caliber stream positioned right at the end of the driveway.
I have Been Covering Fires For Over 12 years, In Many Towns and City's. I have Never Felt so Sad For A Community. They Need More Training and Real Chief on The Job. The Pump Man Was Not Someone I would Want on My Team. He Never hooks Up The Line Then sends Water??? Then 10 min at The Front door suiting Up and Didn't Go in With The Hose ,he sprayed The trash bucket out side??? What Is Really going On Here? Tell Them To Watch My Video's for Training They May Learn Something. Stay Safe Dizzy.
Worcester would have put on a clinic with this job! You tell ‘em Diz!! Nobody beats the Diz!!
@@rapman5791 You Can Say That Again. If They Need Training Send Them My Way. I would Be More Than Happy to Help them out. There Community deserves Better. Stay Safe Dizzy.
@@udizzy1969 Can you please stop capitalising the first letter of most of your words? It's ridiculous.
@@truculenttabasco SURE, NEXT TIME THEY WILL ALL BE CAPS SORRY.
@@udizzy1969 yOU cOULD aLSO gO tHIS wAY, iF yOU rEALLY nEED tO pRESS tHE sHIFT kEY aT tHE bEGINNING oF every wORD!!
I can't believe local officials can watch this and read the 1000s of negative comments and do nothing to improve the fire departments. I understand that they are volunteers but if this is the best job they can do it's time for all paid jersey shore fire departments. Volunteers are great for little rural towns but the jersey shore is millions of people modern shopping malls office buildings. If they can't handle a house fire what about a huge insedent with lives at stake. That home owner is paying at least 12,000 a year in taxes ,he deserves better.
1.7 Million dollar budget
I’ve been saying brick needs a paid department for years, many agree it’s up to the officials!
What specifically was done wrong here?
@@dannycostello3129 these are not all volunteers your way too gullible. Volunteers are not goin' to operate millions of dollars worth of machinery aka firetrucks.
Volunteers certainly have the potential to be great firefighters, but you need to train and train and have an experienced and well taught chief and officer core, or your firefighters are going to end up like this. I do not understand how higher populated towns don’t train weekly, as it is certainly possible.
That was downright hard to watch, from the initial attempts at water supply to the fire chief stopping the first arriving ladder from a proper position, saving it for His own company? Wow, all this and no plug uglies?
Oh gee look yet another YT wannabe making a complete fool of himself by babbling about something he clearly knows nothing about.
@@virgilhilts3924 no, that was pretty bad.
That’s Brick. They like to let it burn for a while.
@@virgilhilts3924he’s not wrong in his assessment though is he? You think this video shows a good example of fire suppression?
@@Jimmythefish577
Tell me specifically what was done wrong....
So glad I don’t live in that fire district. Prayers for the family whose home it is!
I really don’t want to criticize any volunteer firefighters but this was hard to watch. I think 4 trucks are there and I don’t know how many guys standing around doing nothing. And the guy on the street emphatically telling the truck arriving to pull over here. Seems like it should have been an easy knockdown but not the case.
When I was a volunteer in Point Pleasant 45 years ago, we were never this slow
@@JohnDoe-jt4ju I think so to
These horrible departments need to start being held accountable for negligence on scene. This video proves my logic.
What was done specifically here that was negligent?
@@virgilhilts3924 Lol-in-USA your gettin' bare bottom spankings
@@virgilhilts3924 just keep readin' the reviews Lol-in-USA
@@virgilhilts3924 What is yor claim to fame? Put a sock in it.
Why only one line ? They should have had water on it in half the time ? No water on the roof ? It took them 15 minutes to fire up a third line ?
Show us a video of you doing it better...
@@virgilhilts3924let’s see a video of you in action as well then, works both ways.
@@Jimmythefish577don’t worry, Virgil isn’t even a firefighter…
@@Fmadz3306
Cite specifically what I stated that is incorrect, then factually refute it...
@@virgilhilts3924 you haven’t made any actual statements dude.
This is sad. It's even worse when you find out how high the taxes are in this town. Millions of dollars in fancy fire trucks but the houses burn down every time. Water puts out fires. It's plain and simple. Get the water on the fire ASAP. If you have no man power then use the deck gun until you exhaust the water supply you have. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL! Train the probie how to hook a line to the plug. How much training does that take? It would be better than standing around doing nothing. An immediate massive water dump would have worked wonders to slow this fire. Why was the first ladder, with a nozzle on it, not deployed but parked on the street taking up space? Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. They need a course in efficiency. All we hear about is how much equipment weighs and how its the excuse for everyone moving so slow. How about the extra 100 pounds around the waistline? Does a guy opening the hydrant need the "100 pounds of equipment" to open the hydrant? Maybe guys can start putting their equipment on when they are riding in the truck, so they are ready to go when they arrive. There is just so much wrong here. Stop wasting money on truck graphics, lights, and the like, and get some paid professional firemen already. God knows this county wastes enough money. I honestly don't know how the taxpayers stand for this. Look at the videos, they are all the same. Equipment out the ass and the structures burn to the ground!
Yet the house clearly didn't burn down, in fact the majority of the structure sustained no fire damage.
Kinda shoots down your entire goofy narrative doesn't it cupcake.
Good grief 🤦🏻♂️on another note .. the female probie from station 24 deserves kudos for her hustle
Only one that was hustling I bet if she had a pack on she would’ve been taken care of business
Have up most respect for fire fighters but this was tough to even watch.
Not sure what I just watched, just glad they're not my fire department
It seems New Jersey is covered by a lot of volunteer fire depts. I’ve watched many of these JSFR videos and the response is all very similar. As of 2018, Brick NJ has a population of around 75k. I think it’s time for a lot of these municipalities to go to a full time trained fire dept. you either pay for service or pay higher insurance premiums. You pay the cost either way.
@@johnpotts8719 I think you peeps gobbling up that 'volunteer" BS are way too gullible aka suckers. No volunteer is goin' to operate a million dollar piece of tax payer funded machinery aka firetrucks. Sorry your kind fall for that and not buying fire science servants are short on money.
Nice trucks now learn how to use them
Screw you
They do, 2 probationary FF on the first due engine. Not giving them much manpower to work with.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseutilize that deck gun then, it’s not rocket science, low on bodies? Get the big line into operation and get big water on the big fire.
@@Jimmythefish577 they pulled a 2.5…
@@jerseyshorefireresponseand then did nothing with it for minutes
I watch this channel ALOT but this HAS to be the biggest mockery of a fire department I have ever seen. The "driver" couldn't even secure a supply line, the firefighters just throw the entire cross lay on the ground instead of flaking it out.....just SO many mistakes and issues. Granted, the house is a total loss, but they did not even perform a P/S search...regardless of being told the house may have been clear and everyone accounted for.
PATHETIC , NO HUSTLE AT ALL , OMG !😮
I know. I agree 🤦🏼♂️
Total lack of urgency. Would have been better to let the neighbours piss on the fire...
Even neighbors using garden hoses would be faster than these characters wondering about
@@stephaniekelly4384 very true
Imagine being the homeowner or a neighbor and watching this happen in front of you, or watching this video afterward.
Most people that financially support their local fire department typically expect things to get better once the firefighters arrive.
What an utterly ignorant comment
I’d seriously be taking this video to a lawyer just too see what they say.
@@MikeStonex
You would get laughed out of their office 😆😅😂🤣
Look no further than Ewing Twp NJ to see how things went for them once a lawyer saw the video of a fire.
@@ritirons2726
What are you even talking about...?
And what does it have to do with this incident?
Standing around, laughing in the street while the house burns down
Driver/engineer looked like he was in no hurry! Never even chocked the wheels for the safety of his crew. Sad!
Staffed Engine was less then 5 miles away. How do you justify calling a department 10+ minutes away and not a staffed engine less than 5 miles?
Maybe that engine was already called out to another job. That happens...
I’m a volly in Glendola and the staffed engine was not on a call. What a shame
It amazes me how relaxed the firemen are there's no rush or urgency it's like they getting ready to braai
More Junior firefighters on the first due then actual firefighters 🤣
hmm maybe bc everyone else was working & tried their best to get there as fast as they could 🤔
That’s true. But that’s all they had at the time.
Thank you Jersey Shore for another great training video! Do it this way and watch it go to ground!
Did it look "burned to the ground" to you at 19:33?
Standing there staring at the fire- amazing
Its the reason why many of these guys join fire companies, because they're fascinated by fire
Inow
First, please realize that these firefighters are volunteers. That being said, Volunteer should not mean amateur. All firefighters, regardless of whether they are paid or not, need to strive to do the very best that they can.
Let’s learn:
Great to lay water supply from hydrant to fire upon arrival.
Great deployment of a 2-1/2 hand line and quickly attack the external fire on side D.
Unfortunately, they didn’t use the deck gun to knock down the fire ON the roof. Look at the windows and no smoke is emanating from any of them, so this is an external fire. Listen to the engine- it’s running at idle- plenty of capacity to run the deck gun.
Several firefighters are standing, just watching and could have manned the deck gun.
Both trucks should have deployed their aerials immediately and gone to work on the roof fire.
Moral: let’s always remember that we have deck guns and elevated master streams, which are capable of being rapidly deployed and can 21:00 deliver large volumes of water (while hand lines are being deployed and additional manpower are enroute).
Thanks for filming
Any time!
I am looking in from the outside, can you tell me why it looks like it is taking a long time to get the water coming out of the hose on the fire. I know you have procedures but is there anyway to speed it up
They had first water on the fire roughly two-minutes after the brakes were set.
Which isn't bad at all considering that these are all volunteers...
And the fact that they (rightly) chose to use a larger line that is not meant to be used for a quick attack
Wow.... I've never seen much slower fire fighters before.
If the plan was to let the fire walk across the whole roof then great job guys! Also, kudos to all the packed up guys who held that front lawn in place! You made sure it wasn’t going anywhere! (24 years of service)
The batailion cheff is doing nothing to save that home
Battalion Chief
A lot of the firefighters look like there from the old folks home and a bit on the tubby side😂
That engineer is pathetic.
I think they pulled him out of a retirement village
How so?
@@virgilhilts3924 Lol-in-USA told ya lots of peeps pickin up the BS
@@virgilhilts3924 don't be upset
@@TheIroczcamaro
Your triggering is showing 😆😅😂🤣
PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE! This is what you get from 95% of USA departments!!!!! This is by no means the exception.
Nice video and very entertaining. Love the drone shots. Keep them coming.
This is crazy, happy to live in a country where the fire departments are trained!
Looks like the house was under some sort of construction. Windows and door open, so the fire had plenty of air. Engine should have stopped at the driveway. Since they caught the hydrant, water supply is only a minute away, so engineer hits it with the deck gun 45 seconds while attack crew masks up.
Big fire, big water, especially with low man power can get a lot of water on fire with one or two guys and unlimited supply of water with hydrant.
I'm not a firefighter, just when exactly do you use the deck gun?
To cool down the ashes I assume
Clown show….1st fire for these guys? Does the NJ Div of Fire Safety watch these videos? They should! Those new trucks are nice & shiny though!
5:14 How do you figure "two and a half story"?
@@aspensulphate it’s not the bi levelness confused me
I have read many of the comments and agree with most of them. They have beautiful apparatus and turn out gear. What they appear to lack is adequate leadership and training. It appears they have the "form" but need the "substance". Just my opinion as a retired paid and volunteer firefighter...
So what was done wrong?
@@virgilhilts3924 Good morning. May I suggest thar you read some of the other comments? They are very thorough and very accurate...
@@charliepress6629
So what you are saying is that you lack the capacity to stand behind your own assertions.
Well either that or you read other comments and are simply repeating them because you think it makes you sound edgy.
So which is it?
@@virgilhilts3924 Whatever. God bless...
@@charliepress6629
😆😅😂🤣
You wannabe's are all the same
Can I ask a question? In a lot of these videos, I see guys pulling lines at structure fires then having to take a minute or so to put on their SCBA's gloves, hoods. The last volunteer department I ran with, if you responded to a structure fire, the nozzle man and the backup had all that stuff on before we got on scene. All we needed to do was pull a line and by the time we got to the front door we had water. Fire doubles in size every 60 seconds. Why do I not see other departments doing this?
Are these guys on benadryl
Thats why WE INDIAN'S 🇮🇳 BUILD BRICK 🧱HOUSE
Another embarrassing job by the jersey shore’s Vollies… 1st arriving engine thinks it’s more sensible to stretch a 2.5 to the D side with no exposure while knowing that this is an exterior fire that has made its way to the roof, extending its way into the attic… meanwhile it took the ladder company an eternity to get there, but it doesn’t matter cause they did absolutely nothing upon arriving.
And actually instructed to get out of the way! 😮
WOW, by the time these F.F. get anything done the only thing left will be the basement.
Dude I can’t believe yall put this on the internet
Why?
@@jerseyshorefireresponseI watched this a few weeks ago, from what I remember absolutely no one on scene moved with any sense of purpose, it took forever to get water on the fire and if I’m not mistaken the FAO on the 1st due engine lost his connection at the intake because he didn’t secure it properly. I do see a lot of trash fire attacks on line so forgive me if I confused it with another video
Zomaar zulke geweldige voertuigen en het pand brand zo zoetjes aan helemaal af!
insert benny hill song the old guys will get it
catch hydrant, needs sense of urgency, deploy line to the D side and front door, Stop the fire from inside, supres from D side. fire is self ventilated so good vis / low heat. move with a sense of urgency
Currently going through the academy right now but someone explain to me why they didn’t have a deck gun flowing to the roof sooner??
the angle that the deck gun would flow would put the water over the house and in the rear yard. If they put that 75' quint up, that ladder could have actually put water into the burning attic, or handlines into the interior and pulling ceilings below the attic.
Because at that distance and elevation the pressure required would make the stream overshoot the roof and be effectively useless at getting water on the fire itself.
BTW... If you actually are trying to become a firefighter, let me give you some helpful words. Do you know experienced professional Firefighters know how to spot the phonies? Look for the ones saying "Where's the deck gun!" "Why didn't they use a deck gun?" "They should have used a deck gun!".
@@virgilhilts3924that’s why I asked because I’m super green to being a fireman I haven’t even graduated yet. I just wanted an explanation on the tactic used here so I understand it.
I WILL NEVER CLICK ON A VIDEO WITH ANY OF THESE GUYS AGAIN. I WAS A VOL FOR YEARS FOR A SMALL TOWN AND THE RURAL COUNTY IT WAS IN, WE HAD OLD OUTDATED EQUIP AND USED WHAT WE COULD GET TO MAKE WHAT WE DIDNT HAVE, AND WE WERE NEVER THIS SLOW. I CANNOT WATCH ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may be wrong, but why did it take so long to knock on the fire upon arrival?
They had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set.
Which is reasonable considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up.
One line in. One person to hold the hose, the other with a pike pole. The rest of the "firefighters" doing nothing. Help arrives and immediately go in with extra lines. Did the original arrival crew only have two air packs to use and one pike pole and were taking turns to use them? Is that why they are standing around? Hard to watch. Most pathetic attempt at "firefighting". Shameful.
Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 says anyone who watched the video!
Do they have only 1 fire department to respond?
Brick has about 7 fire houses thought out the town. All 7 have apparatus inside.
8*
Guess we don’t use a deck gun anymore LOL wow.
I mean deck is an option with the hydrant within 25-50 ft, but shit pull some lines take some hooks get to the 2nd floor pulling celiling and putting the fire out
needed to get a line on the roof. flames are coming from underneath so knock it down from the top. ! is this the junior auxillary dept ?
No, Line of Sight for the Deck Gun. 1:14 is where the gun should have been. 1:50 is when tank water should have been hitting this. Not for long because it has a very limited Line of Sight on the actual burning material, but it would have slowed extension down considerably. Water started at 3:30. That's one minute and forty seconds after it should have been started.
There should have been a line at the right-side window but where is the line going into the WIDE-OPEN front door so water can be fogged into the attic?
3:13 The clown watching the other two FFers could have been stretching that line instead of playing, Lawn Statue!
3:20 Another Lawn Statue that could have been pulling that line.
No clue whatsoever.
Selten so schlechte Arbeit gesehen. Gefährliche Sachen in der Garage, die hätte ich geräumt. Aber alle Zeit der Welt. OMG
At least the Chief put out the garbage can! Good work, DOPE!
That house is fully engulfed in flames and the firetruck just arrived? Did they just fly in from Oregon?
At no time was it "fully engulfed in flames"... Not even close to being so.
Does anyone know how to hustle
Is it intentional or inability to do so?
OMG this is pathetic. Five minutes to straighten out hose.Watching a house burn down.
I think she is still there playing with the line.
I have the utmost respect for firefighters world wide, it’s a job that I myself don’t think I’d be able to do, and I’m glad that there are people in the world that can answer the call and do it.
That being said; I feel like I could’ve put this fire out faster with a spray bottle. I’m not super familiar with firefighting tactics and all of that but I’ve watched enough response videos for even me to say “hmmm…they are doing this all wrong.” And in all of the videos I’ve watched I’ve never seen the hose pop off of the engine like that. What on Earth is going on here. If I lived in this neighborhood and my house caught on fire I wouldn’t even bother calling them. You could do more with a garden hose.
@@ShawnTheDriver Lol-in-USA yes used to be respectable public servant profession decades ago. Fire science has turned to the dark side. It's not all about them and dowsing flames with water is not rocket science.
So Sad !! Almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire. I wonder if these guys know they have what's called "A Deck Gun". If the first responding truck pulled up in front of the house, they could of significantly knocked down the fire with the deck gun as other units coming in could do the water supply. The first ladder truck arrived 11 Minutes after the first pumper got there, and an arial attack didn't happen until 10 minutes after the first ladder truck arrived. THIS IS EMBARRASING !! Glad I don't live there!!
Staffed engine didn't get called that was 5 miles away.
Unlikely that a deck gun would have done much besides shoot up and over the roof into the back yard. They didn't even direct the 2.5", which was shooting from the D side all the way over to the B end of the roof and completely missing the gaping hole in the middle of the roof. Maybe they didn't want to flood the attic and collapse the ceilings on the interior crew, since that whole roof is looking pretty sketchy.
Most of the roof was engulfed before they even started doing anything! 3 trucks were on the scene and only a few were working on it. Glad it’s not my home!
Clearly you need to go get your eyes examined.
All the gear, and no idea.
How many times are you going to make us look at the fire truck?
Embarrassing. These guys are fantastic at making parking lots
Why does your area have so many fires, let alone so many engulfed buildings? My rapidly growing county has 20 stations across 2 departments serving 300k people and fires like this are far and few. Is it that these older NJ homes are more prone to fire? No doubt part of it is that many of the departments I see in your videos appear to be smaller and there is less uniformity in foreground operations between them(Literally as I typed this sentence the supply hose popped off the pump panel😭)
@@owenwhitmire6151 it's govmnt and the fire science service has turned into a scam
Did everyone get out safely
We all need to support all our volunteers but this was hard to watch. I will never buy a home in a volunteer town.
This is hardly the norm for NJ volunteers. Seems to be this area that can't get it together. No doubt leadership issue.
Hey chief this house fire will eventually burn itself out right?
Just wanna say thanks for sharing this video I grew up on this exact street as a kid and my mom's house is literally right down the road.
I first saw the short Instagram video you posted and when it said brick township I got a little nervous and then when I saw Lexington Drive my heart sank. And I immediately called my mom to make sure she was safe and everything was all good. Glad nobody was in there unfortunately that house is pretty much done.
Thanks for all the work you do ♥️
Thanks for the kind words! Glad your family is safe!
It looks like that house was being remodelled. Now they gonna have to redo the redo.
Is there a part 2 ? Of when they start fighting the fire ?
The whole fire Dept. should be jailed starting with the CHIEF
You're embarrassing yourself
@@virgilhilts3924why do you continually defend these clowns? Tell us you aren’t a firefighter without telling us you aren’t a firefighter…
@@Fmadz3306
Cite where I "defended" anyone...
Then cite specifically what I stated that is incorrect and factually refute it...
Great video, thank you.
You are welcome!
Why do they all look like they’re moving so slow? Also, why are they not putting any water on the front roof area?
Because you haven't the slightest Idea what you are looking at or how firefighting works.
WOW. How about using some tank water for a little bit, huh?…
Engineer was too busy cross threading the supply line.
Don't be ridiculous; what if you need it for an emergency?
Did no one go interior at all ?
1 Hose, 18 Fire Fighters!
Was this a controlled burn for training?