Yes, it was slow and errors were made. Some of the members are older, but you work with what you have and in some places it is almost impossible to get volunteers.
OK I have not been on a fire truck in 50 years but here is my two cents 1. The fire is through the roof immediately deploy the deck gun and SLOW THE FIRE 2. While that is happening pull your hand lines and mask up 3. Shut down deck gun and go in to attack the fire 4. Get a ladder up so you can attack the fire in the attic ( fighting the fire in the Attic requires pulling down dry wall and its hidden) 5. Now that the fire is knocked down you can search for hidden fire and hot spots One man’s opinion
If its a confirmed fire, crews should be masked up before arrival. At least thats how it works where live. Standard crew is 6 people (driver/engineer, command, 4 firefighters). At least two of the fighters #1 and #2 will be masked upon arrival and will have the deck gun running in less than 30 secs. If a search and rescue is needed, #3 and #4 also get there masks on, take a deck gun and enter the building if possible. If a search and rescue is not needed (because caller has declared and assured everyone already got out of the building), #3 and #4 lay down a water supply from a nearby hydrant and then proceed with low pressure lines. If there are possible/suspected victims, there's always a second truck on the way that will take care of water supply after arrival.
@@ivowitkamp7587 'Fire Science " is overrated by your govmnt and media. It has turned into a scam over the last three plus decades. 'They" target advertise, dupe and sucker gullible tax payin' citizens. It's not all about them. This isn't rocket science_-_-
Been watching these Jersey Shore fire depts for the last 3 years.. They HAVE NOT gotten any better. Don't know why it takes so long to get water to the fire. Most of them move like they came from the local geriatric center.....
Bad yes, but I've seen videos that are a hell of a lot worse. I couldn't believe the absolute incompetence of first responders. I seriously thought it was a joke. One video I watched where a car was parked in front of the garage and they were on the scene 15 minutes, and I watched the car catch fire. Not one of them considered saving the car. I was thinking who the hell put these clowns in charge of a fire truck..It was embarrassing to watch. The fire superintendent should have been fired from his job...
At least they laid in this time. Usually they just put a line in a door or window until they run out of water. Pulling a second floor ceiling instead of waiting for the truck would be asking too much.
@@AnthonyCamano122 In brick they call the closest firehouse first which in this case was laurelton and herbertsville stations 23 and 24. its all volunteer in brick. so they gotta drop what they are doing and get to the house as fast as they can safely. in nj volunteers only run blue lights no sirens and they are alot older because no one wants to do this for free anymore.
As a former volunteer fire fighter, I know how chaotic a fire scene is, and never comment on these videos. However, this firefighting effort was one of the worst I've seen. I can't believe the old guy didn't make certain the connection to the truck was secure. Stopping an arriving apparatus for no reason? Unreal
@@darreni5917 tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about with out telling us.. that’s not “through” the roof… it started on the side of the house and extended to the roof.
Im NOT amazed that you failed to grasp that they had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set. Which is pretty good considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up. I say that because Ive found that you folks are often pretty ignorant on such things.
Imagine you are the homeowner watching those bumbling idiots trying to hook up hoses to water. What a shame. This happens in almost all of these NJ fire videos. 😡😡😡
@@pauljames5914 I saw a video where a guy was trying to put out a fire in an attached shed while the firemen were working elsewhere on his house and the police arrested him. Imagine that! It’s on UA-cam.
The drone view near the end of the video says it all! The entire middle portion of the structure is destroyed by not deploying one of the ladder trucks immediately. Show this video to potential home buyers in this area so they can buy elsewhere..
I guarantee you that Home Insurance Company's in this Department 's city are watching videos like this and they're going to use them to justify raising Insurance Rates!
So you guys know it is standard procedure to move slow than to wear yourself out by the time you get to the fire. You becomes useless once you get to the flames. And when your carrying over 100 pounds on your back you should not be running anyway. Pretty much common sense.
Did you see how long it took for more trucks to arrive? The first truck would have been bled dry of water by the time the next one showed up. City of Madison, WI would have 3 Engine Co., 2 Ladder Co., Medic, and Command Car all on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire. Commercial would have doubled the Engine and Ladder Co. plus Medic and Command Car. First in Officer assumes command, all others to Level 1 staging with one Engine ready to take the hydrant immediately.
@@chrisroeben1085 _"City of Madison, WI would have... on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire"_ The sad part is that you actually believe the nonsense you just typed. Especially since MFDs own data shows their average is nearly three times your absurd claim. In the SE part of the city average times have been 10-15 minutes which is why there was a push for the new station. Add to that the fact that MFD is a career FD while the one in this video is all volunteer... And you are really making yourself look quite foolish.
Confusion. Chaos. Anarchy. Disorder. Wasted manpower. SIX guys standing in the street watching a house burn down. No supervision. Pumper/plumper guy can't hook up a hose that doesn't fall off. Come on guys. I mean COME ON!
The house is obviously unoccupied and undergoing heavy renovation. What's the rush? This is a training evolution at this point. Engineer might be a night shift worker volunteer who is still groggy and trying to get their wits about them.
I really don’t want to criticize any volunteer firefighters but this was hard to watch. I think 4 trucks are there and I don’t know how many guys standing around doing nothing. And the guy on the street emphatically telling the truck arriving to pull over here. Seems like it should have been an easy knockdown but not the case.
That was downright hard to watch, from the initial attempts at water supply to the fire chief stopping the first arriving ladder from a proper position, saving it for His own company? Wow, all this and no plug uglies?
I can't believe local officials can watch this and read the 1000s of negative comments and do nothing to improve the fire departments. I understand that they are volunteers but if this is the best job they can do it's time for all paid jersey shore fire departments. Volunteers are great for little rural towns but the jersey shore is millions of people modern shopping malls office buildings. If they can't handle a house fire what about a huge insedent with lives at stake. That home owner is paying at least 12,000 a year in taxes ,he deserves better.
@@dannycostello3129 these are not all volunteers your way too gullible. Volunteers are not goin' to operate millions of dollars worth of machinery aka firetrucks.
Volunteers certainly have the potential to be great firefighters, but you need to train and train and have an experienced and well taught chief and officer core, or your firefighters are going to end up like this. I do not understand how higher populated towns don’t train weekly, as it is certainly possible.
I have Been Covering Fires For Over 12 years, In Many Towns and City's. I have Never Felt so Sad For A Community. They Need More Training and Real Chief on The Job. The Pump Man Was Not Someone I would Want on My Team. He Never hooks Up The Line Then sends Water??? Then 10 min at The Front door suiting Up and Didn't Go in With The Hose ,he sprayed The trash bucket out side??? What Is Really going On Here? Tell Them To Watch My Video's for Training They May Learn Something. Stay Safe Dizzy.
@@rapman5791 You Can Say That Again. If They Need Training Send Them My Way. I would Be More Than Happy to Help them out. There Community deserves Better. Stay Safe Dizzy.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseutilize that deck gun then, it’s not rocket science, low on bodies? Get the big line into operation and get big water on the big fire.
This is sad. It's even worse when you find out how high the taxes are in this town. Millions of dollars in fancy fire trucks but the houses burn down every time. Water puts out fires. It's plain and simple. Get the water on the fire ASAP. If you have no man power then use the deck gun until you exhaust the water supply you have. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL! Train the probie how to hook a line to the plug. How much training does that take? It would be better than standing around doing nothing. An immediate massive water dump would have worked wonders to slow this fire. Why was the first ladder, with a nozzle on it, not deployed but parked on the street taking up space? Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. They need a course in efficiency. All we hear about is how much equipment weighs and how its the excuse for everyone moving so slow. How about the extra 100 pounds around the waistline? Does a guy opening the hydrant need the "100 pounds of equipment" to open the hydrant? Maybe guys can start putting their equipment on when they are riding in the truck, so they are ready to go when they arrive. There is just so much wrong here. Stop wasting money on truck graphics, lights, and the like, and get some paid professional firemen already. God knows this county wastes enough money. I honestly don't know how the taxpayers stand for this. Look at the videos, they are all the same. Equipment out the ass and the structures burn to the ground!
Yet the house clearly didn't burn down, in fact the majority of the structure sustained no fire damage. Kinda shoots down your entire goofy narrative doesn't it cupcake.
It seems New Jersey is covered by a lot of volunteer fire depts. I’ve watched many of these JSFR videos and the response is all very similar. As of 2018, Brick NJ has a population of around 75k. I think it’s time for a lot of these municipalities to go to a full time trained fire dept. you either pay for service or pay higher insurance premiums. You pay the cost either way.
@@johnpotts8719 I think you peeps gobbling up that 'volunteer" BS are way too gullible aka suckers. No volunteer is goin' to operate a million dollar piece of tax payer funded machinery aka firetrucks. Sorry your kind fall for that and not buying fire science servants are short on money.
Imagine being the homeowner or a neighbor and watching this happen in front of you, or watching this video afterward. Most people that financially support their local fire department typically expect things to get better once the firefighters arrive.
Even by new Jersey fd and pd responding as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion chief who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud way to go very let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what started the fire don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks !!! Joe
If the plan was to let the fire walk across the whole roof then great job guys! Also, kudos to all the packed up guys who held that front lawn in place! You made sure it wasn’t going anywhere! (24 years of service)
One line in. One person to hold the hose, the other with a pike pole. The rest of the "firefighters" doing nothing. Help arrives and immediately go in with extra lines. Did the original arrival crew only have two air packs to use and one pike pole and were taking turns to use them? Is that why they are standing around? Hard to watch. Most pathetic attempt at "firefighting". Shameful.
I WILL NEVER CLICK ON A VIDEO WITH ANY OF THESE GUYS AGAIN. I WAS A VOL FOR YEARS FOR A SMALL TOWN AND THE RURAL COUNTY IT WAS IN, WE HAD OLD OUTDATED EQUIP AND USED WHAT WE COULD GET TO MAKE WHAT WE DIDNT HAVE, AND WE WERE NEVER THIS SLOW. I CANNOT WATCH ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First, please realize that these firefighters are volunteers. That being said, Volunteer should not mean amateur. All firefighters, regardless of whether they are paid or not, need to strive to do the very best that they can. Let’s learn: Great to lay water supply from hydrant to fire upon arrival. Great deployment of a 2-1/2 hand line and quickly attack the external fire on side D. Unfortunately, they didn’t use the deck gun to knock down the fire ON the roof. Look at the windows and no smoke is emanating from any of them, so this is an external fire. Listen to the engine- it’s running at idle- plenty of capacity to run the deck gun. Several firefighters are standing, just watching and could have manned the deck gun. Both trucks should have deployed their aerials immediately and gone to work on the roof fire. Moral: let’s always remember that we have deck guns and elevated master streams, which are capable of being rapidly deployed and can 21:00 deliver large volumes of water (while hand lines are being deployed and additional manpower are enroute).
Just wanna say thanks for sharing this video I grew up on this exact street as a kid and my mom's house is literally right down the road. I first saw the short Instagram video you posted and when it said brick township I got a little nervous and then when I saw Lexington Drive my heart sank. And I immediately called my mom to make sure she was safe and everything was all good. Glad nobody was in there unfortunately that house is pretty much done. Thanks for all the work you do ♥️
Another embarrassing job by the jersey shore’s Vollies… 1st arriving engine thinks it’s more sensible to stretch a 2.5 to the D side with no exposure while knowing that this is an exterior fire that has made its way to the roof, extending its way into the attic… meanwhile it took the ladder company an eternity to get there, but it doesn’t matter cause they did absolutely nothing upon arriving.
This was difficult to watch. The fact you give placement for the first in Ladder Co., and then yell at them once they take position because you want your ladder in the air is just ridiculous and a waste of resources on the scene just sitting there. These tactics were horrible.
So Sad !! Almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire. I wonder if these guys know they have what's called "A Deck Gun". If the first responding truck pulled up in front of the house, they could of significantly knocked down the fire with the deck gun as other units coming in could do the water supply. The first ladder truck arrived 11 Minutes after the first pumper got there, and an arial attack didn't happen until 10 minutes after the first ladder truck arrived. THIS IS EMBARRASING !! Glad I don't live there!!
Unlikely that a deck gun would have done much besides shoot up and over the roof into the back yard. They didn't even direct the 2.5", which was shooting from the D side all the way over to the B end of the roof and completely missing the gaping hole in the middle of the roof. Maybe they didn't want to flood the attic and collapse the ceilings on the interior crew, since that whole roof is looking pretty sketchy.
Why does your area have so many fires, let alone so many engulfed buildings? My rapidly growing county has 20 stations across 2 departments serving 300k people and fires like this are far and few. Is it that these older NJ homes are more prone to fire? No doubt part of it is that many of the departments I see in your videos appear to be smaller and there is less uniformity in foreground operations between them(Literally as I typed this sentence the supply hose popped off the pump panel😭)
When they say water on the fire they are technically correct, but the part of the fire that's really burning through the house could have been slowed or stopped if they'd take that first line inside.
No, Line of Sight for the Deck Gun. 1:14 is where the gun should have been. 1:50 is when tank water should have been hitting this. Not for long because it has a very limited Line of Sight on the actual burning material, but it would have slowed extension down considerably. Water started at 3:30. That's one minute and forty seconds after it should have been started. There should have been a line at the right-side window but where is the line going into the WIDE-OPEN front door so water can be fogged into the attic? 3:13 The clown watching the other two FFers could have been stretching that line instead of playing, Lawn Statue! 3:20 Another Lawn Statue that could have been pulling that line. No clue whatsoever.
Most of the roof was engulfed before they even started doing anything! 3 trucks were on the scene and only a few were working on it. Glad it’s not my home!
Looks like the house was under some sort of construction. Windows and door open, so the fire had plenty of air. Engine should have stopped at the driveway. Since they caught the hydrant, water supply is only a minute away, so engineer hits it with the deck gun 45 seconds while attack crew masks up.
Wondering if it was one of their own, would they be this quick ? Now, guys, remember we're just practicing it's not real. Cause back in the 40's we took care of things not stand around, watch someones home burn to the ground
This is what happens when you have individuals that just want the title of being a fireman with no knowledge of how to do the job. I've been on the job for 39 years and this was extremely hard to watch.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseto be fair it wouldn’t take much to show these guys up, that was an embarrassing demonstration of firefighting, if ever there was a prime opportunity to get big water on the big fire with a deck gun this was it, but no, they mess around with hand lines and going interior whilst the structure literally burns around them.
@@virgilhilts3924 I lived in Europe many years and this fire would’ve been put out in half the time - they have a sense of urgency and actually run out of the truck after arriving. Embarassing
Jesus, no hustle, fumbling around.. I’d say they look like volunteers but volunteers are usually at least a little passionate and want to help since there’s no pay.. get it together guys
@@virgilhilts3924 how bout scroll through some of the other comments on these videos my guy, plenty of career or retired firefighters pointing out the same things in detail. In short, the lowest bar of hustle might just be “at least make an attempt to look like you’re in a hurry to put this out”
@@moontreecollective6718 So all that typing yet you cannot answer the simple question BTW... 99.9% of boo-boos here claiming to be firefighters have never even set foot inside a firehouse and prove it with every word they type. Yet 🤡 liker you do not grasp such so you mindlessly repeat what they say thinking it makes you sound edgy... When in reality it just makes you look foolish.
@@virgilhilts3924 I literally did answer it, read the question again.. no hustle means they aren’t displaying any sense of urgency. As another commenter said, it looks like they all took Benadryl. Like they’re half asleep. Slow. Unbothered. If that’s enough get a fucking thesaurus
Slow. Need more training. Hard to watch. You can do an interior attack and save that house. 🏠 you are pushing the fire to the house. And yes, you can push fire 🔥 I used to be a volunteer firefighter and this. SAD
well, jokingly we call them the basement savers. but seems these guys were trying to prove it factual. 😬 granted, by time they got there, not much they could do to limit the damage anyway, other than keep it from catching adjoining homes/woods on fires.
Advanced fire conditions yeah, not sure what’s everyone’s talking about it definitely ran on them A bit but it was fully ripping before they even got there.
I don't think more manpower is going to help these clowns. There were SIX GUYS standing in the street scratching themselves at one point, SIX GUYS that could've been put toward said 'manpower' doing ZERO. Train your guys to do stuff before you start whining about lack of manpower.
Rumor has it that this department never lost a basement.
Foundation savers
@@Badger1949 😆😆😆😆
Lol
And possibly the fence around the lot.
right???
Take your time boys, it’s only someone’s home. Perhaps the old guy in charge of hooking up the hydrant supply line should think about retirement.
there is no one to replace him/her
and a TREE!
I’m embarrassed for this department!
Somone already wrote he's a retired volunteer, they are all volunteers, doing this for free on their own time
Yes, it was slow and errors were made. Some of the members are older, but you work with what you have and in some places it is almost impossible to get volunteers.
This is the most laid back fire scene that I’ve ever seen.
OK I have not been on a fire truck in 50 years but here is my two cents
1. The fire is through the roof immediately deploy the deck gun and SLOW THE FIRE
2. While that is happening pull your hand lines and mask up
3. Shut down deck gun and go in to attack the fire
4. Get a ladder up so you can attack the fire in the attic ( fighting the fire in the Attic requires pulling down dry wall and its hidden)
5. Now that the fire is knocked down you can search for hidden fire and hot spots
One man’s opinion
Your opinion was way better than their reaction. It's sad.
They did all that. Unfortunately, it took them three weeks to do so.
I have no firefighting experience but everything you say makes sense to me.
If its a confirmed fire, crews should be masked up before arrival.
At least thats how it works where live. Standard crew is 6 people (driver/engineer, command, 4 firefighters). At least two of the fighters #1 and #2 will be masked upon arrival and will have the deck gun running in less than 30 secs.
If a search and rescue is needed, #3 and #4 also get there masks on, take a deck gun and enter the building if possible. If a search and rescue is not needed (because caller has declared and assured everyone already got out of the building), #3 and #4 lay down a water supply from a nearby hydrant and then proceed with low pressure lines.
If there are possible/suspected victims, there's always a second truck on the way that will take care of water supply after arrival.
@@ivowitkamp7587 'Fire Science " is overrated by your govmnt and media. It has turned into a scam over the last three plus decades. 'They" target advertise, dupe and sucker gullible tax payin' citizens. It's not all about them. This isn't rocket science_-_-
Been watching these Jersey Shore fire depts for the last 3 years.. They HAVE NOT gotten any better. Don't know why it takes so long to get water to the fire. Most of them move like they came from the local geriatric center.....
Bad yes, but I've seen videos that are a hell of a lot worse. I couldn't believe the absolute incompetence of first responders. I seriously thought it was a joke. One video I watched where a car was parked in front of the garage and they were on the scene 15 minutes, and I watched the car catch fire. Not one of them considered saving the car. I was thinking who the hell put these clowns in charge of a fire truck..It was embarrassing to watch. The fire superintendent should have been fired from his job...
Painful to watch.
At least they laid in this time. Usually they just put a line in a door or window until they run out of water. Pulling a second floor ceiling instead of waiting for the truck would be asking too much.
@@AnthonyCamano122 In brick they call the closest firehouse first which in this case was laurelton and herbertsville stations 23 and 24. its all volunteer in brick. so they gotta drop what they are doing and get to the house as fast as they can safely. in nj volunteers only run blue lights no sirens and they are alot older because no one wants to do this for free anymore.
Deck gun? They laid in and had water for it.
As a former volunteer fire fighter, I know how chaotic a fire scene is, and never comment on these videos. However, this firefighting effort was one of the worst I've seen. I can't believe the old guy didn't make certain the connection to the truck was secure. Stopping an arriving apparatus for no reason? Unreal
You've never been a Firefighter of any sort.
@@virgilhilts3924 Oh here comes the troll.
@@michaeld.4521 👍🏻😂😂🤣🤣
@@michaeld.4521
Looks like fact hurt your feels 🤣
@@choppermike3329
Bitter because you couldn't find a single FD that would hire you? 🤣
Holy clusterfuck, that's one of the worst attacks I've ever seen.
Not even a cluster fuck, more of a lolly-gag fuck
That house is a possible total loss because the first fire truck response was ridiculous I can see firemen doing nothing
Possible?
@@darreni5917 tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about with out telling us.. that’s not “through” the roof… it started on the side of the house and extended to the roof.
That true
Taking a long time put the fire out
It was a total loss on arrival. Can't you see that it's already gutted and being renovated?
Embarrassing to watch.
Mirror?
@@RLTtizMEyou don’t find this embarrassing?
@@RLTtizME
🤣
the tucson arizona fire department enjoys fires like this. out in 10 minutes or less.
@@RLTtizME in the mirror, the window, thru the tv, no matter how you watch it its embarrassing
Never seen so many firemen just standing around doing absolutely nothing. You guys let this house burn down no good.😢
Looked like a union road crew
Coming from the UK, I'm always amazed at why your FD almost waits for the house to burn down before putting any water on it.
Im NOT amazed that you failed to grasp that they had water on the fire roughly two minutes after the Engines brakes were set.
Which is pretty good considering it was a 2.5" dead-load (rightfully chosen due to the size/type of the exterior fire) and included packing up.
I say that because Ive found that you folks are often pretty ignorant on such things.
A hydrant and a deck gun, and no water on the fire.
Slow as shit!!
Imagine you are the homeowner watching those bumbling idiots trying to hook up hoses to water. What a shame. This happens in almost all of these NJ fire videos. 😡😡😡
If this was my house, I'd have grabbed the pre connect myself and ran with it!
@@pauljames5914 I saw a video where a guy was trying to put out a fire in an attached shed while the firemen were working elsewhere on his house and the police arrested him. Imagine that! It’s on UA-cam.
Did you notice that the house is in the midst of a heavy renovation and is pretty much gutted?
The drone view near the end of the video says it all! The entire middle portion of the structure is destroyed by not deploying one of the ladder trucks immediately. Show this video to potential home buyers in this area so they can buy elsewhere..
I guarantee you that Home Insurance Company's in this Department 's city are watching videos like this and they're going to use them to justify raising Insurance Rates!
@@k9spjack Right, and to be honest, I understand why they would. Volunteers or not, at LEAST have SOME type of plan and show SOME urgency. Wow.
They sure dont hurry to put out the fire. They walk around like nothing is happening.
Lets see you do better...
So you guys know it is standard procedure to move slow than to wear yourself out by the time you get to the fire. You becomes useless once you get to the flames. And when your carrying over 100 pounds on your back you should not be running anyway. Pretty much common sense.
@@mrbowlingalleywho’s carrying over 100lbs on their back?
@@Jimmythefish577 Try wearing full bunker gear, including scba's, and full tanks on you, that stuff is heavy
@@virgilhilts3924I did for 30 year's, unlike you.
Over 3 minutes to get water on the fire is unacceptable. Use tank water, and move with a sense of urgency. Let the second due tap the plug.
You haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about.
Did you see how long it took for more trucks to arrive? The first truck would have been bled dry of water by the time the next one showed up.
City of Madison, WI would have 3 Engine Co., 2 Ladder Co., Medic, and Command Car all on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire. Commercial would have doubled the Engine and Ladder Co. plus Medic and Command Car. First in Officer assumes command, all others to Level 1 staging with one Engine ready to take the hydrant immediately.
@@chrisroeben1085
_"City of Madison, WI would have... on scene within 3 minutes of the page for a residential fire"_
The sad part is that you actually believe the nonsense you just typed. Especially since MFDs own data shows their average is nearly three times your absurd claim. In the SE part of the city average times have been 10-15 minutes which is why there was a push for the new station.
Add to that the fact that MFD is a career FD while the one in this video is all volunteer... And you are really making yourself look quite foolish.
Confusion. Chaos. Anarchy. Disorder. Wasted manpower. SIX guys standing in the street watching a house burn down. No supervision. Pumper/plumper guy can't hook up a hose that doesn't fall off.
Come on guys. I mean COME ON!
@@douglas2lee929 Lol-in-USA your 'hero's" and tax dollars at work. Tell your govmnt and media it's not all about govmnt servants.
The house is obviously unoccupied and undergoing heavy renovation. What's the rush? This is a training evolution at this point.
Engineer might be a night shift worker volunteer who is still groggy and trying to get their wits about them.
@@douglas2lee929 they are your 'heros" according to media, fellow govmnt entities and hollywood.
Deck gun.
I can’t watch these Brick fires, all I end up doing is screaming at the phone!
The lack of urgency coupled with the amateur effort is a complete nightmare.
I really don’t want to criticize any volunteer firefighters but this was hard to watch. I think 4 trucks are there and I don’t know how many guys standing around doing nothing. And the guy on the street emphatically telling the truck arriving to pull over here. Seems like it should have been an easy knockdown but not the case.
Have up most respect for fire fighters but this was tough to even watch.
That was downright hard to watch, from the initial attempts at water supply to the fire chief stopping the first arriving ladder from a proper position, saving it for His own company? Wow, all this and no plug uglies?
Oh gee look yet another YT wannabe making a complete fool of himself by babbling about something he clearly knows nothing about.
@@virgilhilts3924 no, that was pretty bad.
That’s Brick. They like to let it burn for a while.
@@virgilhilts3924he’s not wrong in his assessment though is he? You think this video shows a good example of fire suppression?
@@Jimmythefish577
Tell me specifically what was done wrong....
I can't believe local officials can watch this and read the 1000s of negative comments and do nothing to improve the fire departments. I understand that they are volunteers but if this is the best job they can do it's time for all paid jersey shore fire departments. Volunteers are great for little rural towns but the jersey shore is millions of people modern shopping malls office buildings. If they can't handle a house fire what about a huge insedent with lives at stake. That home owner is paying at least 12,000 a year in taxes ,he deserves better.
1.7 Million dollar budget
I’ve been saying brick needs a paid department for years, many agree it’s up to the officials!
What specifically was done wrong here?
@@dannycostello3129 these are not all volunteers your way too gullible. Volunteers are not goin' to operate millions of dollars worth of machinery aka firetrucks.
Volunteers certainly have the potential to be great firefighters, but you need to train and train and have an experienced and well taught chief and officer core, or your firefighters are going to end up like this. I do not understand how higher populated towns don’t train weekly, as it is certainly possible.
I have Been Covering Fires For Over 12 years, In Many Towns and City's. I have Never Felt so Sad For A Community. They Need More Training and Real Chief on The Job. The Pump Man Was Not Someone I would Want on My Team. He Never hooks Up The Line Then sends Water??? Then 10 min at The Front door suiting Up and Didn't Go in With The Hose ,he sprayed The trash bucket out side??? What Is Really going On Here? Tell Them To Watch My Video's for Training They May Learn Something. Stay Safe Dizzy.
Worcester would have put on a clinic with this job! You tell ‘em Diz!! Nobody beats the Diz!!
@@rapman5791 You Can Say That Again. If They Need Training Send Them My Way. I would Be More Than Happy to Help them out. There Community deserves Better. Stay Safe Dizzy.
@@udizzy1969 Can you please stop capitalising the first letter of most of your words? It's ridiculous.
@@truculenttabasco SURE, NEXT TIME THEY WILL ALL BE CAPS SORRY.
@@udizzy1969 yOU cOULD aLSO gO tHIS wAY, iF yOU rEALLY nEED tO pRESS tHE sHIFT kEY aT tHE bEGINNING oF every wORD!!
These horrible departments need to start being held accountable for negligence on scene. This video proves my logic.
What was done specifically here that was negligent?
@@virgilhilts3924 Lol-in-USA your gettin' bare bottom spankings
@@virgilhilts3924 just keep readin' the reviews Lol-in-USA
Good grief 🤦🏻♂️on another note .. the female probie from station 24 deserves kudos for her hustle
Only one that was hustling I bet if she had a pack on she would’ve been taken care of business
Nice trucks now learn how to use them
Screw you
They do, 2 probationary FF on the first due engine. Not giving them much manpower to work with.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseutilize that deck gun then, it’s not rocket science, low on bodies? Get the big line into operation and get big water on the big fire.
@@Jimmythefish577 they pulled a 2.5…
@@jerseyshorefireresponseand then did nothing with it for minutes
PATHETIC , NO HUSTLE AT ALL , OMG !😮
I know. I agree 🤦🏼♂️
Total lack of urgency. Would have been better to let the neighbours piss on the fire...
Even neighbors using garden hoses would be faster than these characters wondering about
@@stephaniekelly4384 very true
When I was a volunteer in Point Pleasant 45 years ago, we were never this slow
@@JohnDoe-jt4ju I think so to
Standing there staring at the fire- amazing
Its the reason why many of these guys join fire companies, because they're fascinated by fire
Inow
Staffed Engine was less then 5 miles away. How do you justify calling a department 10+ minutes away and not a staffed engine less than 5 miles?
Maybe that engine was already called out to another job. That happens...
I’m a volly in Glendola and the staffed engine was not on a call. What a shame
Standing around, laughing in the street while the house burns down
Clown show….1st fire for these guys? Does the NJ Div of Fire Safety watch these videos? They should! Those new trucks are nice & shiny though!
This is sad. It's even worse when you find out how high the taxes are in this town. Millions of dollars in fancy fire trucks but the houses burn down every time. Water puts out fires. It's plain and simple. Get the water on the fire ASAP. If you have no man power then use the deck gun until you exhaust the water supply you have. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL! Train the probie how to hook a line to the plug. How much training does that take? It would be better than standing around doing nothing. An immediate massive water dump would have worked wonders to slow this fire. Why was the first ladder, with a nozzle on it, not deployed but parked on the street taking up space? Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. They need a course in efficiency. All we hear about is how much equipment weighs and how its the excuse for everyone moving so slow. How about the extra 100 pounds around the waistline? Does a guy opening the hydrant need the "100 pounds of equipment" to open the hydrant? Maybe guys can start putting their equipment on when they are riding in the truck, so they are ready to go when they arrive. There is just so much wrong here. Stop wasting money on truck graphics, lights, and the like, and get some paid professional firemen already. God knows this county wastes enough money. I honestly don't know how the taxpayers stand for this. Look at the videos, they are all the same. Equipment out the ass and the structures burn to the ground!
Yet the house clearly didn't burn down, in fact the majority of the structure sustained no fire damage.
Kinda shoots down your entire goofy narrative doesn't it cupcake.
Guess we don’t use a deck gun anymore LOL wow.
Why only one line ? They should have had water on it in half the time ? No water on the roof ? It took them 15 minutes to fire up a third line ?
Show us a video of you doing it better...
@@virgilhilts3924let’s see a video of you in action as well then, works both ways.
@@Jimmythefish577don’t worry, Virgil isn’t even a firefighter…
@@Fmadz3306
Cite specifically what I stated that is incorrect, then factually refute it...
@@virgilhilts3924 you haven’t made any actual statements dude.
It seems New Jersey is covered by a lot of volunteer fire depts. I’ve watched many of these JSFR videos and the response is all very similar. As of 2018, Brick NJ has a population of around 75k. I think it’s time for a lot of these municipalities to go to a full time trained fire dept. you either pay for service or pay higher insurance premiums. You pay the cost either way.
@@johnpotts8719 I think you peeps gobbling up that 'volunteer" BS are way too gullible aka suckers. No volunteer is goin' to operate a million dollar piece of tax payer funded machinery aka firetrucks. Sorry your kind fall for that and not buying fire science servants are short on money.
That engineer is pathetic.
I think they pulled him out of a retirement village
How so?
@@virgilhilts3924 Lol-in-USA told ya lots of peeps pickin up the BS
@@virgilhilts3924 don't be upset
@@TheIroczcamaro
Your triggering is showing 😆😅😂🤣
Imagine being the homeowner or a neighbor and watching this happen in front of you, or watching this video afterward.
Most people that financially support their local fire department typically expect things to get better once the firefighters arrive.
What an utterly ignorant comment
I’d seriously be taking this video to a lawyer just too see what they say.
@@MikeStonex
You would get laughed out of their office 😆😅😂🤣
Look no further than Ewing Twp NJ to see how things went for them once a lawyer saw the video of a fire.
@@ritirons2726
What are you even talking about...?
And what does it have to do with this incident?
Thank you Jersey Shore for another great training video! Do it this way and watch it go to ground!
Did it look "burned to the ground" to you at 19:33?
More Junior firefighters on the first due then actual firefighters 🤣
hmm maybe bc everyone else was working & tried their best to get there as fast as they could 🤔
That’s true. But that’s all they had at the time.
Even by new Jersey fd and pd responding as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion chief who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud way to go very let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what started the fire don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks !!! Joe
Thanks for filming
Any time!
Embarrassing. These guys are fantastic at making parking lots
Nice video and very entertaining. Love the drone shots. Keep them coming.
Wow.... I've never seen much slower fire fighters before.
All the gear, and no idea.
If the plan was to let the fire walk across the whole roof then great job guys! Also, kudos to all the packed up guys who held that front lawn in place! You made sure it wasn’t going anywhere! (24 years of service)
One line in. One person to hold the hose, the other with a pike pole. The rest of the "firefighters" doing nothing. Help arrives and immediately go in with extra lines. Did the original arrival crew only have two air packs to use and one pike pole and were taking turns to use them? Is that why they are standing around? Hard to watch. Most pathetic attempt at "firefighting". Shameful.
Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life 🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 says anyone who watched the video!
OMG this is pathetic. Five minutes to straighten out hose.Watching a house burn down.
I think she is still there playing with the line.
I WILL NEVER CLICK ON A VIDEO WITH ANY OF THESE GUYS AGAIN. I WAS A VOL FOR YEARS FOR A SMALL TOWN AND THE RURAL COUNTY IT WAS IN, WE HAD OLD OUTDATED EQUIP AND USED WHAT WE COULD GET TO MAKE WHAT WE DIDNT HAVE, AND WE WERE NEVER THIS SLOW. I CANNOT WATCH ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are these guys on benadryl
1 Hose, 18 Fire Fighters!
insert benny hill song the old guys will get it
First, please realize that these firefighters are volunteers. That being said, Volunteer should not mean amateur. All firefighters, regardless of whether they are paid or not, need to strive to do the very best that they can.
Let’s learn:
Great to lay water supply from hydrant to fire upon arrival.
Great deployment of a 2-1/2 hand line and quickly attack the external fire on side D.
Unfortunately, they didn’t use the deck gun to knock down the fire ON the roof. Look at the windows and no smoke is emanating from any of them, so this is an external fire. Listen to the engine- it’s running at idle- plenty of capacity to run the deck gun.
Several firefighters are standing, just watching and could have manned the deck gun.
Both trucks should have deployed their aerials immediately and gone to work on the roof fire.
Moral: let’s always remember that we have deck guns and elevated master streams, which are capable of being rapidly deployed and can 21:00 deliver large volumes of water (while hand lines are being deployed and additional manpower are enroute).
We all need to support all our volunteers but this was hard to watch. I will never buy a home in a volunteer town.
This is hardly the norm for NJ volunteers. Seems to be this area that can't get it together. No doubt leadership issue.
WOW. How about using some tank water for a little bit, huh?…
Engineer was too busy cross threading the supply line.
Don't be ridiculous; what if you need it for an emergency?
Can’t even attach the hose to the engine!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Think someone pre maturely charged it before it was given order to.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse looked like it was on the intake
@@Mr7Firedog look closer just sitting on the step under it intake cover still on
Just wanna say thanks for sharing this video I grew up on this exact street as a kid and my mom's house is literally right down the road.
I first saw the short Instagram video you posted and when it said brick township I got a little nervous and then when I saw Lexington Drive my heart sank. And I immediately called my mom to make sure she was safe and everything was all good. Glad nobody was in there unfortunately that house is pretty much done.
Thanks for all the work you do ♥️
Thanks for the kind words! Glad your family is safe!
It looks like that house was being remodelled. Now they gonna have to redo the redo.
Another embarrassing job by the jersey shore’s Vollies… 1st arriving engine thinks it’s more sensible to stretch a 2.5 to the D side with no exposure while knowing that this is an exterior fire that has made its way to the roof, extending its way into the attic… meanwhile it took the ladder company an eternity to get there, but it doesn’t matter cause they did absolutely nothing upon arriving.
And actually instructed to get out of the way! 😮
A lot of standing around and not putting water on fire.
Zomaar zulke geweldige voertuigen en het pand brand zo zoetjes aan helemaal af!
The whole fire Dept. should be jailed starting with the CHIEF
You're embarrassing yourself
@@virgilhilts3924why do you continually defend these clowns? Tell us you aren’t a firefighter without telling us you aren’t a firefighter…
@@Fmadz3306
Cite where I "defended" anyone...
Then cite specifically what I stated that is incorrect and factually refute it...
This was difficult to watch. The fact you give placement for the first in Ladder Co., and then yell at them once they take position because you want your ladder in the air is just ridiculous and a waste of resources on the scene just sitting there. These tactics were horrible.
So Sad !! Almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire. I wonder if these guys know they have what's called "A Deck Gun". If the first responding truck pulled up in front of the house, they could of significantly knocked down the fire with the deck gun as other units coming in could do the water supply. The first ladder truck arrived 11 Minutes after the first pumper got there, and an arial attack didn't happen until 10 minutes after the first ladder truck arrived. THIS IS EMBARRASING !! Glad I don't live there!!
Staffed engine didn't get called that was 5 miles away.
Unlikely that a deck gun would have done much besides shoot up and over the roof into the back yard. They didn't even direct the 2.5", which was shooting from the D side all the way over to the B end of the roof and completely missing the gaping hole in the middle of the roof. Maybe they didn't want to flood the attic and collapse the ceilings on the interior crew, since that whole roof is looking pretty sketchy.
Way to save the foundation!
Why does your area have so many fires, let alone so many engulfed buildings? My rapidly growing county has 20 stations across 2 departments serving 300k people and fires like this are far and few. Is it that these older NJ homes are more prone to fire? No doubt part of it is that many of the departments I see in your videos appear to be smaller and there is less uniformity in foreground operations between them(Literally as I typed this sentence the supply hose popped off the pump panel😭)
@@owenwhitmire6151 it's govmnt and the fire science service has turned into a scam
Don't rush lads don't rush
When they say water on the fire they are technically correct, but the part of the fire that's really burning through the house could have been slowed or stopped if they'd take that first line inside.
was beer belly ernie the skipper that day.
Oh my. I feel for the homeowner. A sad day for them. Great coverage JSFR.
No, Line of Sight for the Deck Gun. 1:14 is where the gun should have been. 1:50 is when tank water should have been hitting this. Not for long because it has a very limited Line of Sight on the actual burning material, but it would have slowed extension down considerably. Water started at 3:30. That's one minute and forty seconds after it should have been started.
There should have been a line at the right-side window but where is the line going into the WIDE-OPEN front door so water can be fogged into the attic?
3:13 The clown watching the other two FFers could have been stretching that line instead of playing, Lawn Statue!
3:20 Another Lawn Statue that could have been pulling that line.
No clue whatsoever.
Great video, thank you.
You are welcome!
Great video catch.
Holy shit put the fucking fire out
This is crazy, happy to live in a country where the fire departments are trained!
3 stooges more efficient
Most of the roof was engulfed before they even started doing anything! 3 trucks were on the scene and only a few were working on it. Glad it’s not my home!
Clearly you need to go get your eyes examined.
Looks like the house was under some sort of construction. Windows and door open, so the fire had plenty of air. Engine should have stopped at the driveway. Since they caught the hydrant, water supply is only a minute away, so engineer hits it with the deck gun 45 seconds while attack crew masks up.
Big fire, big water, especially with low man power can get a lot of water on fire with one or two guys and unlimited supply of water with hydrant.
At least the Chief put out the garbage can! Good work, DOPE!
Deck gun
Driver/engineer looked like he was in no hurry! Never even chocked the wheels for the safety of his crew. Sad!
No sense of urgency. This is embarrassing
Brick fire department has taken the phrase "everyone goes home" to the next level by practically not even showing up to fight.
Laurelton is great department from Brick
Wondering if it was one of their own, would they be this quick ? Now, guys, remember we're just practicing it's not real. Cause back in the 40's we took care of things not stand around, watch someones home burn to the ground
This is what happens when you have individuals that just want the title of being a fireman with no knowledge of how to do the job. I've been on the job for 39 years and this was extremely hard to watch.
Do we criticize the firefighters or do we criticize their leadership ???
Keystone fire crews… they just let this fire burn and burn before the ladder was even put up in the air. Wow - pathetic. No sense of urgency
Clearly you need to get your eyes checked...
Come volunteer then! Show them how it’s done.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseto be fair it wouldn’t take much to show these guys up, that was an embarrassing demonstration of firefighting, if ever there was a prime opportunity to get big water on the big fire with a deck gun this was it, but no, they mess around with hand lines and going interior whilst the structure literally burns around them.
@@jerseyshorefireresponseray Charles could do a better job
@@virgilhilts3924 I lived in Europe many years and this fire would’ve been put out in half the time - they have a sense of urgency and actually run out of the truck after arriving. Embarassing
Jesus, no hustle, fumbling around.. I’d say they look like volunteers but volunteers are usually at least a little passionate and want to help since there’s no pay.. get it together guys
What does "no hustle" even mean?
What would make you happy?
@@virgilhilts3924 how bout scroll through some of the other comments on these videos my guy, plenty of career or retired firefighters pointing out the same things in detail. In short, the lowest bar of hustle might just be “at least make an attempt to look like you’re in a hurry to put this out”
@@moontreecollective6718
So all that typing yet you cannot answer the simple question
BTW... 99.9% of boo-boos here claiming to be firefighters have never even set foot inside a firehouse and prove it with every word they type. Yet 🤡 liker you do not grasp such so you mindlessly repeat what they say thinking it makes you sound edgy... When in reality it just makes you look foolish.
@@virgilhilts3924 I literally did answer it, read the question again.. no hustle means they aren’t displaying any sense of urgency. As another commenter said, it looks like they all took Benadryl. Like they’re half asleep. Slow. Unbothered. If that’s enough get a fucking thesaurus
Wow, someone deleted the comments on this thread, embarrassing….
Slow. Need more training. Hard to watch. You can do an interior attack and save that house. 🏠 you are pushing the fire to the house. And yes, you can push fire 🔥 I used to be a volunteer firefighter and this. SAD
well, jokingly we call them the basement savers. but seems these guys were trying to prove it factual. 😬
granted, by time they got there, not much they could do to limit the damage anyway, other than keep it from catching adjoining homes/woods on fires.
Advanced fire conditions yeah, not sure what’s everyone’s talking about it definitely ran on them
A bit but it was fully ripping before they even got there.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse it ran on them because they let it.......get in there with a hand line and a hook and head it off. you learn that in fire 1
that stick should have been in the sky immediately
2 sticks and none of them have water on the fire
The batailion cheff is doing nothing to save that home
Battalion Chief
Why the fuck is the Chief stopping the FIRST ladder from positioning themselves exactly where they're supposed to be?????
Pump operator should retired
Not really. This is all he might be good for. They don't need a 22 year old looking at gauges.
@@mrbowlingalley He's not good at it, bud
@@mrbowlingalleyno but a 22yo that can hook a supply line up properly would be an asset
And a mandatory diet.
You have to be paid to retire from something…
Nice,slow, and steady video. In landscape mode! You’re the best, but still hard to watch!!😢
Everyone suddenly becomes an expert but nobody wants to volunteer so there is actual manpower.
Yup
I don't think more manpower is going to help these clowns. There were SIX GUYS standing in the street scratching themselves at one point, SIX GUYS that could've been put toward said 'manpower' doing ZERO. Train your guys to do stuff before you start whining about lack of manpower.
@@robdog1245
What time timestamp do you see this happening?
Crickets
New Jersey suburbs deserve professional fire departments. That was awful.
Am glad i live in Florida
A lot of armchair firemen on here.
These armchair firemen would be great firemen actually because it's obvious what the problem is.
Every fire I see brick fight makes me fear living here.
Looks like it's been renovated and not occupied by residents...