Exclusive: inside the new Scandinavian Airlines A321LR
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Here's an exclusive look at the first A321LR for Scandinavian Airlines (SAS). We take you through the whole aircraft both inside and out, and we speak to Per Tideus, product manager for SAS, who was responsible for the cabin we see today.
After a delay of several months, service on this aircraft is due to begin officially on March 27, 2022 between Copenhagen (CPH) and Washington DC (IAD). But it's also operating a handful of special flights this week, first to Oslo and then to DC - so we can finally bring you this video now that it's flying the general public!
This plane is unique not only because it's the first long-haul configured narrow-body for SAS, but also (especially) because that includes a premium economy class (SAS Plus) laid out 2-by-2. While it's not unusual to find an A321LR these days configured with lie-flat business class seats, as many airlines are turning to these planes to serve less-trafficked routes that nevertheless have some demand, finding a premium economy like this onboard is completely new. It's a lot like flying domestic first class in the US - not a terrible way to cross the Atlantic at all.
Let us know what you think.
SECTIONS:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 SAS hangar
1:44 First sight of the plane
3:19 Onboard
3:43 Economy
4:09 Premium economy
4:36 Business class
5:22 Per Tideus introduces the products
7:03 Conclusion
JetPhotos image © Jevgeni Ivanov: www.jetphotos.com/photo/10153062
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If the price is right this premium economy cabin in a 2-2 configuration, with seats not unlike domestic First in the US, could be a real sweet spot for transatlantic flights. Do you agree?
Absolutely agree 100%. My only concern is that 12 Plus seats aren't enough...
For day flights, yes. Also be interesting to see prices and upgrade costs.
This layout is creative and a brilliant idea. Hopefully it works and other airlines follow suit. 🤞
This new premium economy is really great. 👍 Think of all passengers who want to have an adequate amount of space and more comfort.
With introduction of extremely low fares in Eco with often 31 '' seating it is a good idea. To keep passengers interested in flying. And not having to fear the next uncomfortable flight.
I think Premium Economy (SAS Plus) is really great. You get a way more comfortable experience, for not a lot more money. Those who dislike how aviation has become more cramped but cheaper, well here's your option. And options are a good thing.
I think the premium economy just knocks it out of the park. A fabulous 2-2 absolutely works.
Agreed.
And their PE gives business class perks like lounge access and free WiFi too.
That’s a smart looking aircraft. I think narrow-body long haul is the wave of the future. Airbus is poised to dominate this segment.
True!
The B757 is actually a little more compatible for this role. The problem is that Being dropped the ball on upgrading the 757, while Airbus saw this potential with the Boeing NMA delayed indefinitely. It will take a while for Them to catch up in this segment
Flightradar24, Can you please send me an ACJ220?
I would fly it over the Atlantic without a doubt.
It was a very comfortable and amazing experience with this type of flight in a narrow edge body. Both to/from Washington via CPH. Excellent concept. The only negative thing is that Plus members need to use the toilet area with all 140GO members, where Business 22members do have their own one toilet for a 9 or 8 hours flight.
Really great looking aircraft, from the inside as well as the outside. However, I have to say I still prefer wide-body aircraft for longer flights. The extra space, the quiteness and stability of those big planes for me is worth the plane changing hassle, and once you've been spoiled by traveling e.g. in an A380 you don't really what to travel any other way - at least I don't.
Also, I personally don't even mind changing planes at Hubs. For me that's just part of the travel experience, especially if you are interested in planes anyway.
I had a business trip to Kuala Lumpur back in 2009. I could have flown direct but purposely organised my flights to allow me a decent transit stop in Singapore - 3 hrs outbound and 9 hours on the return trip to London. What an airport WSSS is!
For me the A380 is the gold standard but business or premium economy in this SAS A321LR looks like it might be a challenger
I took a 7.5 hour flight on an AA 757 to South America a few years ago. Thankfully, I was able to do economy plus on the outbound and first on the return. I don't think I would want to do standard Y class for 7 hours on a single aisle plane.
Definitely agree, it looks far too confining to me.
What a gorgeous aircraft. Thank you for sharing my friend!
I would definitely take a direct flight on a narrow body rather than connecting.
I recently flew roundtrip between Delhi and Almaty on Air Astana A321N LR. My skepticism toward narrow body was taken away by how amazingly comfortable the cabin is and I flew economy this time. Air Astana really nailed it. Long haul on narrow body? Yes, I think it will work if airlines really take their time to get the cabin configuration right 😁
Really nice aircraft with SAS - well done . Great video .
superb plane, a nice addition to the fleet. Have flown on the a320neo a few times now and it is a very quiet airplane. Wouldnt mind taking a seat on this on a longer route.
Great piece of work. Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
woooooow that’s one absolutely gorgeous looking aircraft 😱😍!!
Nice indormative vid, keep up the good work✈️
Thanks so much for this you guys are amazing!!! This can compete w aer lingus!
Looks really nice inside!! hope to fly it one time
This allows SAS to fly from its 3 hubs to many cities in the world that can’t support an A350 or A330 now.
After this,sas will be a very very small airline
What next? Embraer Washington to Gatwick?
Great video. Looking forward to fly on this bird one day. West Jets premium short haul product is just called premium economy and is laid out in a 2-2 configuration on their narrow body aircrafts
It looks awesome. Definitely worth trying.
love flying SAS from USA to see my inlaws in Latvija
Recently flew this plane Boston to Copenhagen in SAS Plus (premium economy). Very nice , comfortable experience and loved the option of a nonstop flight.
Looks like a great plane! This is currently flying BOS-CPH; IAD has been upgauged for the summer to the A330.
What a pity, CPH to IAD is (was should I say now?) my standard route, and I loved the Business Class seat arrangement on the A330/340, but the prospect of flying this weird C seat configuration on a narrow body which cannot escape the sometimes rough jet stream by flying above it because the A321 has a lower max flight altitude, is not my cup of tea. I like the A320 family a lot, but for short/medium haul routes only. Sad, I liked the SAS product so far on their wide body planes, but I guess I need to look for alternatives now.
Cool. Thank you. Will be my choice for the next Oslo NYC. Flight.
Nice to see SAS using the Faroes as a screen capture.
spectacular
The is one beautiful aircraft - inside & out
Beautiful aircraft. Personally l'm a fan of widebody for international travel and the US mainland to Hawaii which is getting hard to come by. Yes l would book travel on an A321 one way and a widebody the other way.
Very nice. I grew up on long haul narrow body aircraft, namely the 707 & briefly VC-10 so nothing new back then & in-flight entertainment was looking out the window, the best view on the planet. I have flown SAS on their 737s & to be frank their scratchy windows sucked as my video camera was more interested in the scratches than the scenery I was trying to film. I hope they take better care of the Airbus windows.
Beautiful airplane…
fantastik video been waiting to see this one . will they fly it as a cabin tryout as well typ route proving ????
Seems like they're just doing a handful of route proving flights before launching regular service, but they haven't talked much about their plans so we can't be sure.
Looks great tasteful cabin .
I would love to take a trip in this plane. Unfortunately SAS doesn't fly to BKK anymore, if so I would take the trip several times a year.
The 707 was the way to go back in the day. It would be cool if an airline would add a lounge like pan am used to but wouldn't be economically unless it was on a premium route. 🤞🤷♂️
I love the plane no doubt about that but what I see is a foreign built B-757-200 which is my all time most favorite aircraft. Why Boeing gave up and walked away from the B-757 is beyond me as it was one of the best aircraft ever built. For Airbus Industries taking up this niche market and filling the void left open by Boeing with such a beautiful aircraft with the perfect seating layout in a narrow body, I likey I likely.
I’ve flown frequently on a 757 on transatlantic flights and expect the A321LR, and XLR, to be just as good. For flights like Europe to the US west coast a narrow body is perfectly fine, for longer routes I can totally understand why people might prefer to fly on a wide body!
Throne seats look great...
Fun fact:
I bought this exact plane in a diecast model from a manufacturer named JCWings. I do think the model is based on the older configuration of the aircraft but it’s the same plane «SE-DMO»
😃
This is class compaired to the 330-800neo you was flying with Air Greenland's in premium class. I measured the noise in premium class to 70 db at about 20 hz. in Air Greenland today.
That's so nice....
I’m curious to see/hear what crew rest options there are for these aircraft.
Airlines doesn't care about well being of their crew
6:13 2+2 ... that's a fair seat configuration for an intercontinental, long-range single aisle aircraft
I've flown transatlantic on the A321LRs of Primera back in 2018 and I can tell you that 4 hours in I started feeling very claustrophobic sitting on a window seat in Y class. When I flew a Norwegian 787 on the way back, I breathed a sigh of relief as I sat down (also window Y seat). The lack of overhead space on the narrowbody airplanes is a dealbreaker for me. Nevertheless, this is a great looking aircraft and I would gladly fly it on shorter European routes.
nice cabin
No problems, a great aircraft
Nice cabin lay out. Love the SK seats, my favorites in Eco and Prem Eco. However I would never fly a narrow body on a long haul. Interesting also their calculation on pax costs. Did they take into account that those flights wont take much cargo, especially now when considering the high airfreight rates? On a B787 u easy end up with 60K additional cargo revenue. We even had flights with much more than 100K revenue, just for cargo
It's a good question!
Klm has ordered also A321,s .I dont mind flying with it for longer times, if the leg space is ok😉
Nice! Business Class is like SQ’s B737-8’s one
I noticed that the last row of Premium Economy features the screen on the back of the seat witch is designated to the first row of Economy class ... PE layout is 2X2 while the economy class is 3X3 so how it works for the third passenger seated in the first row of economy in terms of PTV? I also noticed the same issue in the last row of economy class which also features sreens on the back of the seat but those seats are facing the lavatory's bulkwall .... which means there is no need for them to be placed . Is threre any reason for that ?
Those Economy seats look a bit too slimline for long haul flying 🧐
The SAS plus cabin is really awesome and the Business cabin with the throne seats is great as well.
If only these planes could find their way to some of the Scandinavia to the Canary Islands routes, they would have me onboard for sure 🙏🤞🤞☺️
That would be great! Longer Euro flights would definitely benefit from these cabins (of course SAS will probably disagree 🙃)
Very nice setup! What about crew rest? I suppose that there is no dedicated compartment.
Don't think so, no!
Hey Gabriel, What camera do you use to record. I noticed in a couple of videos you have an iPhone 12 or 13 Pro. Is that all you use to record these videos as the quality is amazing?
or do you heavily adjust the colours in Post production?
Hi Jimmy, some videos are mostly iPhone 12 Pro while others use a mix of Sony FX3 and iPhone. The FX3 makes nicer images and is much better in low light but sometimes the versatility of the iPhone can't be beat. Either way I don't often have to do much to the colors in post. The iPhone is a pretty incredible piece of tech.
They put that on the Atlantic run between New York and Stockholm, I'll fly Norse Atlantic. It's nuts to fly a single aisle aircraft on such a long flight. I flew a USAIR 757 Stockholm-Philly once. Never again.
Kinda weird that this doesn't have the Airspace cabin fixtures that JetBlue has. I thought Airspace has already been standardized across all A320neo aircraft.
An interesting point. These were configured and delivered a while ago and have been sitting around since, so maybe they missed that Airspace cutoff.
@@Flightradar24DotCom But yeah, I really like the addition of proper premium economy in addition to lie flat business and standard economy. The seat model looks similar to Aer Lingus but with a black finish instead of white.
The cabin looks very comfortable and I would have no problem flying it across the Atlantic. My only criticism is that the cabin is very Grey and simple, there is no separation or break in the colour between each cabin and it does not really capture my attention. I think it would have been nice for them to include some Scandinavian style wood surfaces into the business seat to give it a sense of added luxury and break up the grey palate and have more accents of the SAS blue within the cabin, but like the Cabin designer said he was working to a very tight deadline. Apart from that i think it’s a very nice aircraft and the new livery suits it well.
It seems to be a good idea the size of the bird and the seat arrangement por LR flights ,eg Arkansas to NYC
Arkansas is wrong, it should be Arlanda NYC
Premium economy looks good but the seat in front axis ground link gets in the way of feet
I would preferre a wide body but if it comes to avoid a connection at CPH, I will be happy to fly a narrow body.
I would avoid the background jingle for starters. Otherwise nice report
Having flown on a B757 over the Atlantic many times this seems like an upgrade. Especially the premium seats. I do wonder how far can LR go into the US rangewise. Denver perhaps or is it restricted to East Coast cities ?
I believe this plane is supposed to initially fly copenhagen - washington.
I don’t think the lr or even the xlr could make it to Denver, but it can be used at all of their east coast locations
4000nmi range which is Washington DC(4050nmi) so Denver is not posible
@@Endurer92 What about the XLR then
JetBlue is has been doing JFK-LHR in there a321lr for a bit now
When me and my friend go to Arlanda (ESSA/ARN), we see a brand-new A321LR from SkyCity, and I just think it is so cool. It has been at the same gate for a week, and we actually saw when it was delivered to that gate. I think the new A321LR’s are cool and it will be nice to see them in the SAS fleet.
Agreed! Thanks for the comment.
i believe this is a future aircraft , can fly 9 hours non stop
Copenhagen To Washington DC on this airplane GODDAM. Yeah I wouldn't want to go on that one 😩
Not sure if it's just me, but I'm not sure about those seats. They just don't look as comfortable for extended sitting?
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They really should have installed AirSpace bins
If they offer GOT-EWR on the A321LR count me in! ;)
Which routes will the SAS A321LR operate?
☀️✈️😀 SAS 💙
I wish they restart CPH-SEA with 321LR...
I prefer wide body Sir but if i fly this type 321LR its ok with me to Europe routes only
This looks like the premium economy service I was waiting for. 2x2 seating makes all the difference.
One question. I grew up with SAS (my Dad was one of the founding employees) and one of my favorite things about the airline is the naming of the aircraft with Viking names. Back in the 1970s, I worked on the ramp at JFK and I got to know all the SAS aircraft by their names. If you know, what is the name of this aircraft?
This 321 is Jarl Viking.
My Dad was also with (and founding employee) SAS and retired just as the DC10s entered service. But I was lucky enough to get passes until I was 24 so I did use all the ID privilege's I could. And did transit thorough JFK may times with my last free pass arriving at EWR. Best memories at Kennedy seeing SK911 land from the Worldport rooftop parking then walking back to the IAB to board for 912. Usually flew on Hugh, Ivar and Bjarne Viking across the pond. My younger brother also flew on Dan Viking N4501Q (Boeing's 500th Jumbo).
You didn’t want to show us the legroom in Eco & Premium Eco?
Yeah sorry, that was an oversight. It was a bit rushed as we only had a few minutes to try the seats out!
Well u could purchase a ticket for same price depending on carrier, 767 777 a330 a350 more comfort which would b the better option to fly
Excellent J Class product and certainly something to try. Does anyone here know where SAS will use these new A321NX's? I heard IAD may be one option. I would hope YYZ is in the cards. Also a good ace card to use out of Oslo to link it to ORD.
Look for them in BOS eventually too!
I have been told by SAS crew that Boston, Washington from i.e. CPH and NY from AAL. Just great options
Where are the crew-rest located?
If they want to provide the same experience I dont understand why they dont install the same type of business cabin of wide body aircraft. The narrower body is just an excuse. The reality is that they still want a similar number of business seats of a widebody without stealing space for all the other economy seats. Only JetBlue made a narrowbody business class comparable to a wide body. It is just a choice non an operational matter. An A321 can have a 1-1 business class with no problem, the same seats as are installed on the A350 and 787. In fact on the A321 the with of one business seat could equal to 3 economy seats, the same that is on those bigger widebodies.
interesting video and the plane looks nice, but the video would be better if you didn't need to make it an extended selfie.
Introduce it and then show us the plane.
I wish i can see this aircraft soon im a big fun of aviation industry
It's a very nice aircraft and SAS did a great job with that interior, but you'll still never see me in that cabin on any flight over 4 hours. I am not a fan of this trend of narrow body long haul flying. I am sorry, but I am just old enough to remember TATL in a 707 and Europe to Australia via the ME and Asia in said 707, several times. No thanks, my last 707 over the pond was 1978 and my first wide body was the same route a year later and what a difference. Even on transcons I will choose even the 767 over the A320/321 or the 757 any day and twice on Sunday. I did a 737 JFK-LAS once, just once, never again.
Could someone please let me know the number of seats in the Business class of this A321LR ?
Still missing the days of 767 crossing the oceans, this doesnt look bad at all….
Hope they will open flights from ARN to YUL... YUL is not connected at all with Scandinavia. I took a A321 LR on 2 trips, both to Lisbon from Montréal. The first time with Air Transat and the second with TAP. It is perfect for these kind of routes.
How was your transatlantic flight on the A321LR? Did you experience a lot of turbulence?
@@TeyMarieAstudillo I did 4 trans Atlantic flight on the A321 Neo, 3 with TAP and 1 with Air Transat. No more turbulence than on wide bodies. Perfect for direct flights on destination with not enough passengers to fill a 787 or A330. I am waiting for a direct flight from Montréal to Stockholm or Copenhagen.
a far better option than the 737MAX :)
This summer, I’m flying with SAS on both an A321LR, and an A350 which I’ve flown before, so it will be interesting to see how they compare.
Definitely! Let us know how they do after you fly!
Have you done this flight yet? I'm doing that same as well and have a bit of worry about flying long haul on the A321LR - not so much about space but turbulence.
Surprisingly, no one compares or discusses fuleconsumtion (passenger seat milage in liters of cerosine per 100 km flow) vs wide body aircraft?
Fair point. It can be difficult to compare because of differently configured aircraft, lack of real world info from actual operations and other variables. However if you look at general figures and not specific airline data to get an approximate idea, and simply divide kg of fuel burned by the number of seats onboard, we figure the SAS A321LR will burn roughly 15% less per seat hour than the SAS A350....
A great looking product, especially in J & PY... For me I would rather not do a longhaul Economy in a single aisle aircraft. Would most definatley travel in the PY or J class though. The SK PY seating reminds me of QF, VA & ZL domestic Australian Business Class seating.
A lovely aircraft, with a very nice cabin. Perhaps the color palette is a bit underwhelming...I wouldn't mind a bit more color...
Some find the colors too muted. Others like the understated approach. It's an interesting one.
@@Flightradar24DotCom True. It's all very grey and monochromatic though...
If they changed the blue stripe on the engine to a SAS orange it would look better imo
It is very scandinavian though and since this is Scandinavian airlines it fits perfectly if you ask me 🙂
Looks very Nodic, Finnair has similar minimalist color palette
The covid situation must first stabilize.
economy long flight i'l like to fly wide body :)) but bussines i think its.doesnt matter
Direct flight is more more more comfortable than transit.
But they are not changing routes. Only downgrading to a lousy plane.
SAS, Keep the A330!
I find it interesting to see how similar the Premium Economy seats are to United’s Premium Plus.The only difference seems to be the screen size and color
where is the crew rest or bunkers?
There is none.
On which routes is this aircraft going to be used?
Starting with Copenhagen-Washington, later generally CPH-US east cost. It has already made a couple of short hops on OSL-CPH.
Right, look for it on US east coast routes, especially smaller markets eventually like Boston.
In the beginning Copenhagen to Boston, New York and Washington. Service begins 27 of March.
For me the preference would be wide body and the feel of spaciousness that gives. A321LR seems like a retro step back to the 707 and DC8. I'd opt for an airline offering wide body unless there was a significant price premium for not doing so
great, wwwoowwww
The difference between 1 and 2 aisles can't by anything else than psychological. It's exactly as cramped, if not more, on 2-aisle planes. It might feel worse on a narrowbody because, well, it's narrow. But for the seat and the space you have, no. The only plane where you can really notice a difference is the 380, lower cabin.
The additional head room on a wide-body gives the impression of much more space.
@@JudgeHill Yes, precisely my point - the impression of, not actual space.
Long haul 4 hours plus I would prefer a wide body aircraft - SAS premium economy 2-2 is really good - but Jet Blue premium seating very good lot of airlines are rolling out great cabins . Airlines main problems are aircraft slots at large airports .
Nice plane but I'd rather have a wide body plane anyday