Weird how people criticize Max for being "aggressive" then praise Senna and Schumacher and call them goats (which they are). People need to stop listening to brit media and british biased fans. I like hard racing. And that is why I love Max, Fernando and KMag, they make F1 interesting. A lot of the drivers play it safe bc they care too much of what others think.
Senna and Schumacher are also considered VERY dirty drivers. I've honestly seen people call Schumacher the dirtiest champion. That doesn't mean that any of these drivers are bad, they ARE all GOATS of the sport. But they were all objectively dirty.
During the Hamilton-era Mercedes pressured the FIA to turn racing into some sort of 'synchronous driving' ... almost killing real racing. Thank god Max brought that back. 🤗🏆
The only time Max is a dirty driver is when he skips taking a shower for 3 or 4 days....like day 4 or sometimes even day 5, heaven forbid, you just know he definately not gonna be racing clean. And thats the way it goes sometimes.
Sorry, but listening to you talk hurts. You have no clue, as if you've never actually raced before. No clue of multiclass, you didnt see the oversteer of the yellow car at 14:15, you have no clue about the incident at 9:10. Verstappen had to open his steering. I thought you were a simracer. You talk about being able to see Max' telemetry to better analyse his moves and yet you can't even analyse the things you can see on track. And the only clip you show of yourself driving, you show that you lack any awareness whatsoever. Wow.
Some of these clips are kinda too much looked into... I mean at 8:35 he just avoiding to be taken out by the guy on the inside that did some super dive on the grass
As a race driver - there is nothing to see here. in the case of the mazda where Max had a wiggle the Mazda should have been very aware. He would have got the blue flag in iRacing when Max was 1 second behind
I mean the incident at 4:39, there is a clip going about of them spinning Max on lap 21 and then this lap 39 they are actively trying to block him, the normal line through there is to go over to the left which Max is probably expecting them to do but they don't 🤷♂ also you're comparing one of the best current racing drivers against us common plebs, there's obv going to be incidents 🤣
It's also not a normal race. The MEME on the car should give you a clue. Thus with his normal time advantage he takes less risk. But if you can givve him black flaags for money... Ofcourse he will try. It's entertaining, people are watching and donating. He makes some practis hours on the start of his vacation in Brasil.
4:12 you can't actually be serious lmao. You can clearly see there was a gap until the merc closed it suddenly (which is not even close to being the racing line)
He’s probably the most aggressive driver in the F1 grid where they actually put their lives on the line. So yeah in sim, charity event, for the memes, he’s gonna murder a bunch of people. Having said that, I feel like half of these are “max put the other driver in a position where they have to alter their turn-in”. Yeah, that’s multiclass racing. You have mirrors and you have a spotter. Those moves are 100% fine and the incident is the fault of the person turning in. It’s the perfect example of drivers that can only drive one line and have no control of their car otherwise
Others can criticize his driving all they want. When you look at the results it's generating for him, i don't think he cares too much what others think.
i think his sim racing just shows even more of his mindset.. he goes for first and nothing else. he is willing to crash nd take any risk. somehow i think for him it pays out and he is statisticly profits from it more then it hurts him.. so in his mind it is the way to go. so yeah he possibly is a dirty driver in many eyes but in others he just isnt compromising his results
Lol, you are seriously trying to make your argument based on a footage from a meme charity race where everyone was trolling each other? People were literally punting each other off for 23 hours. Teams were screwing each other over with stop & go penalties by donating money. This video is trolling gold :D.
Most incidents seem like him going for the gap and the car (usually on the outside) not realizing they are getting dive bomded. But some of the incidents are also him not allowing the delta to ever go red, even if it means making contact
Your commentary tries its best to hide the hate but you cant hide it. Your hate ends every sentence. Max isnt a dirty driver hes a very aggressive driver and sometimes it goes wrong. Its what wins titles just like Senna and Schumacher. Not everyone has the backing of the FIA like Lewis had
@@Kireth You analyze incidents in this video as if this was an actual F1 race, also referring to the FIA 🤣. It was a charity race, all jokes and absurd amount of donations were made to give out penalties. It was really fun to watch. You should watch the stream from team redline, try to avoid being so biased and just enjoy that we can watch a multiple WDC winner participate in sim racing.
It is possible to be a Max fan and also critisize him on his behavior. If you've watched the video then even for a big endurance race it is unbelievable to see in how many instances he is part of an incident. Be honest here, Max was in this race often very dirty.
In the last clip it was clearly the fault of the white and purple car. On Zolder the car exiting the pitlane has always the inside line and in every raceseries on the planet the car exiting the pitlane has the right to take the inside line. You have to give the driver, who is exiting the pitlane, the space he needs. Also a lot of the other incidents are mainly at the fault of the other driver. For example the move after the sharp s. No one would ever move to the right, especially when you have a way faster car behind you. That was plain stupid from the driver in front. The issue in the hairpin was also the fault of the yellow and black car. He clearly loses his car and turnt in way more than he would when he could hold his line. That doesn't mean Max didn't anything wrong. He also did a couple of stupid move which brings him and the other drivers in a bad position but most of the incidents in this video are clearly the fault of the other drivers around him. I don't know if they never check the mirrors or ignore the spotter or what they thinking what they do. Max isn't the cleanest driver in the world but saying he is a dirty driver because of those clips is ridicules stupid.
The car in front of max clear as day moves to the right as max is coming up when he had space to go to the left. So either that driver wasn’t paying attention or he wanted to slow max down. Surprised a racing driver didn’t notice that 4:16
When he bumped into those miatas that was just the rear end snapping out on him and he tried to catch it. There's nothing he could have done really. He just came in too hot. But yes he is a dirty racer. Clean driver, dirty racer. At like 5 minutes and 30 seconds he just wasn't paying attention.
loool 3 times F1 WDC, and he can't judge a closing gap? The rear snapped on him because the closing gap was too small, and he tried to turn more than what the grip allowed him for his speed. He went too fast thinking he would scare the other car and force him to leave space, but the other car didn't because he didn't have to. So the gap closed as it was always going to, and Max had to turn more and more, and he was too fast for the rears to follow. The only way he would make this pass is for the other car to just let him through, so he tried to bully them into it, but it didn't work.
@@MegaIronica yes exactly lol. But had he not taken the turn so shallow his rears would not have broke and he would have been able to slow the car down. He was probably trying to avoid hitting him in the first place. I don't think he was trying to pass I just said he broke late and was in the wake of the guy in front of him and didn't anticipate that much downforce to be taken off the front of his car. Typical formula driver stuff lol
@nighttrain1565 dude, he is probably the best driver alive today. He definitely knew what he was doing. On top of that, once there is contact, he has the skills to keep his car on the track, but others don't. Just watch how he wrestles the wheel after the contact to keep going. He just knows any contact is much less probable to affect him because he can handle it.
As a guy who use to race both sim and real life.... It's a big difference in being overly aggressive in game and in actual wheel to wheel combat. People who don't know the difference are entertained by it, but it's a real difference when YOU'RE IN THE CAR IRL!... Clean overtakes will always trump divebombs in the end.
16:25 I'm baffled by how much time you spent on this corner. Max was clearly ahead both times, and he made the turn. It's a multiclass race. Obviously the guy on the outside needs to back off. 17:20 okay mate, you got me. This is just engagement bait. I commented twice, so there you go. I'll like the video as well 👍
Incident 1 = ok. Incident 2 = at fault. Incident 3 = ok. Incident 4 = looks like Max might have been heading for the pits or hoping to take outside line. Incident 5 = not at fault. Incident 6 = not at fault. Incident 7 = he opened up the steering to avoid the car on inside. Incident 8 = his fault. Incident 9 = ok. Incident 10 = at fault. Incident 11 = at fault. Incident 12 = fine. Incident 13 = legally ok, but too aggressive. Incident 14 = ok.
Max races the rest of the field hard, expecting them to be as knowledgeable and as skillied as he is when it comes to race craft. But when it comes to blue flag situations for instance he has to take into account that the drivers are most likely extremely shook when they see MAX 'fkn' VERSTAPPEN in their rear view mirror and the other drivers may fumble and overly slow to allow him past. I've never been in the same race as Max, but I know I'd be overthinking how I'm gonna defend or when/where I'm gonna let him through safely and correctly.
So there is a significant difference. Max has grown up sim racing where there are no consequences. Modern safety of F1 including the halo and the massive tractor cars is also much better. Not to mention massive runoff areas and barriers etc. Senna, Mansell etc drove a 1000 HP go cart, sitting fully exposed and not unusual for several drivers to die each year. There was little run off areas. It's not the same
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Buy a entry level wheel to start with to find out if the hobby is for you. If you find out you're in it for the long haul, then buy the best you can afford when rdy to upgrade. I don't like to waste money upgrading all the time, so I went from a GT DD Pro (entry) to a Simucube 2 Pro. Never upgrading again (unless my wheel base dies, which is unlikely) ..
You can't use footage from that charity event and use that against Max to say hes a dirty or aggressive driver, go watch all the drivers streams from the event, particularly Jimmy Broadbent's video, everyone was crashing it wasn't serious racing.
Odd to give so much excuse to Max via netcode, as if Max hasn't been on the service for 10 years, which is more than long enough to learn that a gap that is exactly big enough isn't actually big enough because of netcode inaccuracy. The rest of us mostly manage to race while keeping netcode in mind. Why can't Max?
Max can be a dirty driver, but only when it matters for the win or the championship. By default he is a respectful driver. I always compare it with a football player. A player that has to prevent a broken through attacker to score, will mow him down, taking the red card in his stride. That is how top sport work. It is not about being fair 100%. It is about results.
He has simply realised that he can use other peoples cars as braking aids, and he gets away with it, I appreciate you making this video, but even then you give him the benefit of the doubt simply because he's an F1 driver, if you watch those incidents not knowing who the driver was would you come to the same conclusion ?
He isn't a dirty racing driver, just very aggressive. (not a Max fan, don't hate him or like him just not a fan as i don't believe in putting people on a pedestal )
Max is the GOAT. He's a 4x World champion. Those that dislike him will still brag in years to come to tell people they were there to witness him do it. Enjoy it while it last's. These drivers only come around once and a while. He's on the same list as Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.
I think some people need to understand this is a competition. This is racing. If you come to a race to be nice or just avoid having incidents you will never be as fast as you need to succeed. This doesn't apply only to racing. There's competitiveness in real world jobs as well where only the bests will clash to get the best results
There's a difference between competing and crashing out other competitors. In many of these clips he's crashing out others not even in his class for no valid reason. Max is a selfish troll that only cares about himself. Very low class and not much skill. If he had a lot of skill he wouldn't need to crash others out or dive into the corner taking their line forcing them wide to win. That move is like a spoiled little Princess that has to have her way or she will cry.
@777trader8 Im not saying anything about max being wrong or right in the clips. It's obvious that he crashes a lot and we can see that half of the collisions are his fault. But my message was for the people who think competition is a solidarity cause
@@777trader8 "Not much skill" LOL you are a mega clown for that statement. 4x World Champion F1 driver and widely considered by other simmers to be one of the best.
tbf, I dislike Max and I personally think he's a really dirty driver. but the incident at 3:00 was that the Miata in front turned in late. I bet Max thought the Miata in front saw him and was gonna leave him space, and then the Miata did a big turn in and Max jammed on his brakes cause he knew he was about collide. Honestly, I'd kinda say racing incident there.
@@RobbsHQ its just that this particular race was driven with a different spirit to the norm. this driving was well within the spirit of the race. the naughty driving actually raised more money and they smashed records.
@@andyreader3867 Yeah I agree, it was all about having fun, I enjoyed watching the streams online. It just a shame that this video did not capture that.
@@andyreader3867 right, tons of jokes over voice chat about "being the first to the apex", several jokes on stream from his teammates saying "divebomb is critical for our race" lmao
You say it as a matter of fact that Max gets in a lot of incidents. But these are like 2-3 clips each from individual 24 hours races, right? What are you comparing him to? What are the other driver's rate of incidents?
The irony od this being a charity event for the MIND mental health team... is that with all these incidents (whether Max's fault or not) may well have caused a bunch of drivers to talk to someone due to stress after the race.. 🤦lol (PS. I'm just joking and not making light of mental health at all! ... I've used this very helpline myself in the past and the call handlers are incredible! Non-judgemental and are extremely easy to talk to about ANY issues you may be struggling with!) 💪✌
I think that he expects slower cars to let him pass.I dont know what happens in the game or in real racing in those sports but in F1 a car that is a lap down have to let the others pass.
so this charity event so take it as pinch of salt. but in Wec and imsa you would not get a gt3 car trying to overtake a porotype/hyper car unless they were on stone cold tyres or there was problem with car.
Well guess what, he's having fun as was everyone else in that race. Plenty of accidents happened. Look at any of his "serious" races like the nurburgring 24h etc. Do you see him in these accidents there? No
I will not defend Max, but it was a bad car combo.. prototypes are just to fast for Zolder and the difference between MX5 and prototype is just to big..
As long as he is ahead at the apex and he makes the corner it's fair in my opinion the defending driver also has to react to it, before the entry of a corner look in the mirror to see if the attacking car goes for it and if he does then expect anything!!
Ohhh sorry I thought it was on the overtaking car to make sure theumy do it safely. I didn't know it was on the defending car to make sure the car behind them doesn't punt them into the shadow realm 😂
as i said if the attacking car gets ahead before the apex while also making the corner, the defending car must expect him there and not just keep turning into the attacking car on the inside , you got a rear view mirror for a reason and you can't decide if the driver behind is willing to go for the gap or not. it's racing at the end of the day
Mate amazing unique content as awalys. Could you make a tutorial on how to find max on iracing and how to follow a path in iracing to race max? Would make great video.
He race for him self & to hell if you get in his way All he wants every one to know it especially his opposition he want them to fear and get out of his way All the greats have been guilty of the same but they didn’t make it so obvious like Max does.
This is a charity race. If someone pays money for charity they can give him or others, drive-throughs, or they have to sing a song, tell a joke etc. So why did you take this race to show us how he drives??? There's more than enough footage of him racing on iRacing at serious events. Just another video to criticize Max and get your clicks. Keep trying buddy but Max will forever be one of the best drivers and certainly the best on the grid at this moment.
@Kireth I think this is a very disingenuous video. You are analysing Max's racing from a charity race that is designed to be silly with no normal racing rules. Drivers are being told "you must lunge the next corner, it's imperative for the race", drivers are given stop go penalties based on donations (11 in one go for one driver), and the race ends in a massive crash every year on purpose. The race is all in very good humour and dodgy driving is pretty much encouraged. Obviously you know all of this having raced in it yourself yet you are analysing the racing as if it's under normal/serious racing rules.
This video could have been 3 seconds long. All you needed to do was show the word yes. We've all know for years Max is dirty, it's just he's always bent the rules to get away with it.
I'm not sure I'd 100% say he's dirty. I think I'd say he has a belief that hes absolutely entitled to every bit of road, to the point where he thinks others should be automatically moving out of the way for him. Kind of reminds me of a young Vettel, but Vettel well and truly grew up.
early in iracing max expect expect like all ppl around pro, guys use mirrors, all three. But time show him, ppl with rating 5k and lower not use it at all or get out the way immediately)
I think he brutes his way through. He takes risks that are guaranteed to result in unsporty behaviour. He pays the price later instead of assuring to not need to pay a price. He drives a way that is in the grey zone that affects peers negatively, which is positive for him. Only seldom does he get severe penalties.
Yep, he certainly is a dirty driver and basically a thug. We've seen it over the years with Dani, Charles, and now Lando. The guy needs a race ban, or 3, to try to get him to clean up his act. 😢
You only see the positives of your driver and only see the negatives of Verstappen. Drivers make mistakes, they crash it is part of the sport. Stop focussing on Verstappen and only see issues when you see him.
I can smell teamLH a mile off. hes not a dirty driver and definitely not a thug. The only driver on the grid the greats like Senna or Schumacher would respect is Verstappen
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Weird how people criticize Max for being "aggressive" then praise Senna and Schumacher and call them goats (which they are). People need to stop listening to brit media and british biased fans. I like hard racing. And that is why I love Max, Fernando and KMag, they make F1 interesting. A lot of the drivers play it safe bc they care too much of what others think.
100% this
Dont compare Fernando with Max in terms of clean race.
Senna and Schumacher are also considered VERY dirty drivers. I've honestly seen people call Schumacher the dirtiest champion.
That doesn't mean that any of these drivers are bad, they ARE all GOATS of the sport. But they were all objectively dirty.
During the Hamilton-era Mercedes pressured the FIA to turn racing into some sort of 'synchronous driving' ... almost killing real racing.
Thank god Max brought that back. 🤗🏆
All bias comes with time, nascar fans are a great example, they hate you when you win but when you start to suck, everyone loves you.
The only time Max is a dirty driver is when he skips taking a shower for 3 or 4 days....like day 4 or sometimes even day 5, heaven forbid, you just know he definately not gonna be racing clean. And thats the way it goes sometimes.
😂
He is a verstappen until it rains. 🙂
Sorry, but listening to you talk hurts. You have no clue, as if you've never actually raced before. No clue of multiclass, you didnt see the oversteer of the yellow car at 14:15, you have no clue about the incident at 9:10. Verstappen had to open his steering. I thought you were a simracer. You talk about being able to see Max' telemetry to better analyse his moves and yet you can't even analyse the things you can see on track. And the only clip you show of yourself driving, you show that you lack any awareness whatsoever. Wow.
Some of these clips are kinda too much looked into... I mean at 8:35 he just avoiding to be taken out by the guy on the inside that did some super dive on the grass
As expected from british mate, they hate max
I think it was the same car that took him out at 7:05 so that makes it a logical reflex it's just shocking 'analyzing' from the guy.
8:25 was because the guy jumped the kerbs. You can see he still has way too much speed and is angled to cut the chicane off completely
As a race driver - there is nothing to see here. in the case of the mazda where Max had a wiggle the Mazda should have been very aware. He would have got the blue flag in iRacing when Max was 1 second behind
I mean the incident at 4:39, there is a clip going about of them spinning Max on lap 21 and then this lap 39 they are actively trying to block him, the normal line through there is to go over to the left which Max is probably expecting them to do but they don't 🤷♂ also you're comparing one of the best current racing drivers against us common plebs, there's obv going to be incidents 🤣
It's also not a normal race. The MEME on the car should give you a clue. Thus with his normal time advantage he takes less risk. But if you can givve him black flaags for money... Ofcourse he will try. It's entertaining, people are watching and donating. He makes some practis hours on the start of his vacation in Brasil.
A brit finding a reason to hate Max again🤣. Bro it was a charity race, it was all jokes and donations were made for penalties.
No, he races till the limits of the rules. Just pushovers like Lando cant accept that
When i race i try my best not to hit other drivers
That's how it should be
Thanks for your service
Thats bare minimum, do you want a cookie?
Same but sometimes I let people pass and follow then and my tyre's stay cool by watching his deceleration points then pass and never get passed again.
I race to win
This video is an actual joke 😂
4:12 you can't actually be serious lmao. You can clearly see there was a gap until the merc closed it suddenly (which is not even close to being the racing line)
He’s probably the most aggressive driver in the F1 grid where they actually put their lives on the line. So yeah in sim, charity event, for the memes, he’s gonna murder a bunch of people. Having said that, I feel like half of these are “max put the other driver in a position where they have to alter their turn-in”. Yeah, that’s multiclass racing. You have mirrors and you have a spotter. Those moves are 100% fine and the incident is the fault of the person turning in. It’s the perfect example of drivers that can only drive one line and have no control of their car otherwise
8:56 yes he did? Did you fail to see the amg steaming up the inside??
Others can criticize his driving all they want. When you look at the results it's generating for him, i don't think he cares too much what others think.
i think his sim racing just shows even more of his mindset.. he goes for first and nothing else. he is willing to crash nd take any risk. somehow i think for him it pays out and he is statisticly profits from it more then it hurts him.. so in his mind it is the way to go. so yeah he possibly is a dirty driver in many eyes but in others he just isnt compromising his results
9:23 car on inside goes off track with a dive bomb, misses the apex.
Lol, you are seriously trying to make your argument based on a footage from a meme charity race where everyone was trolling each other? People were literally punting each other off for 23 hours. Teams were screwing each other over with stop & go penalties by donating money. This video is trolling gold :D.
2:29
“On first glance on a sort of rampage”
Sounds about right 😂
Max puts people in a position to avoid or have an accident.
Saying that way seems to remove all responsibility from his actions. I am sure he is also responsible for a crash he causes.
Max is an agressive calculated driver. If you’re expecting to be given up positions then you better go play need for speed underground😂
Most incidents seem like him going for the gap and the car (usually on the outside) not realizing they are getting dive bomded. But some of the incidents are also him not allowing the delta to ever go red, even if it means making contact
Your commentary tries its best to hide the hate but you cant hide it. Your hate ends every sentence. Max isnt a dirty driver hes a very aggressive driver and sometimes it goes wrong. Its what wins titles just like Senna and Schumacher. Not everyone has the backing of the FIA like Lewis had
That's literally not true, there's not one sentence I've written that's ended by hate
@@Kireth You analyze incidents in this video as if this was an actual F1 race, also referring to the FIA 🤣. It was a charity race, all jokes and absurd amount of donations were made to give out penalties. It was really fun to watch. You should watch the stream from team redline, try to avoid being so biased and just enjoy that we can watch a multiple WDC winner participate in sim racing.
Okay, fanboi.
Imagine acting like a white knight over a dude.
It is possible to be a Max fan and also critisize him on his behavior. If you've watched the video then even for a big endurance race it is unbelievable to see in how many instances he is part of an incident.
Be honest here, Max was in this race often very dirty.
@@vennemans9113 Please share the spreadsheet of incidents by driver so we can take a look
Wait. Isn't this the guy who kept replaying a slo-mo of him pushing Max off the track?
faster cars responsibility to pass safely. hes obviously not doing that
In the last clip it was clearly the fault of the white and purple car. On Zolder the car exiting the pitlane has always the inside line and in every raceseries on the planet the car exiting the pitlane has the right to take the inside line. You have to give the driver, who is exiting the pitlane, the space he needs.
Also a lot of the other incidents are mainly at the fault of the other driver. For example the move after the sharp s. No one would ever move to the right, especially when you have a way faster car behind you. That was plain stupid from the driver in front.
The issue in the hairpin was also the fault of the yellow and black car. He clearly loses his car and turnt in way more than he would when he could hold his line.
That doesn't mean Max didn't anything wrong. He also did a couple of stupid move which brings him and the other drivers in a bad position but most of the incidents in this video are clearly the fault of the other drivers around him. I don't know if they never check the mirrors or ignore the spotter or what they thinking what they do.
Max isn't the cleanest driver in the world but saying he is a dirty driver because of those clips is ridicules stupid.
The car in front of max clear as day moves to the right as max is coming up when he had space to go to the left. So either that driver wasn’t paying attention or he wanted to slow max down. Surprised a racing driver didn’t notice that 4:16
I don't think he's a dirty driver, he's more like a not so clean 3-wood
When he bumped into those miatas that was just the rear end snapping out on him and he tried to catch it. There's nothing he could have done really. He just came in too hot. But yes he is a dirty racer. Clean driver, dirty racer. At like 5 minutes and 30 seconds he just wasn't paying attention.
loool 3 times F1 WDC, and he can't judge a closing gap? The rear snapped on him because the closing gap was too small, and he tried to turn more than what the grip allowed him for his speed. He went too fast thinking he would scare the other car and force him to leave space, but the other car didn't because he didn't have to. So the gap closed as it was always going to, and Max had to turn more and more, and he was too fast for the rears to follow. The only way he would make this pass is for the other car to just let him through, so he tried to bully them into it, but it didn't work.
@@MegaIronica you forget that its a sim race
@permanentlybored195 what does that have anything to do with the incident?
@@MegaIronica yes exactly lol. But had he not taken the turn so shallow his rears would not have broke and he would have been able to slow the car down. He was probably trying to avoid hitting him in the first place. I don't think he was trying to pass I just said he broke late and was in the wake of the guy in front of him and didn't anticipate that much downforce to be taken off the front of his car. Typical formula driver stuff lol
@nighttrain1565 dude, he is probably the best driver alive today. He definitely knew what he was doing. On top of that, once there is contact, he has the skills to keep his car on the track, but others don't. Just watch how he wrestles the wheel after the contact to keep going. He just knows any contact is much less probable to affect him because he can handle it.
Simply put, he's the Earnhardt of f1 move or be moved.
Awesome footage !
What do people want racing with risks or make it a non contact sport?
he is just driving his line. the problem is more the other drivers that dont know what the racing line is and mis the apex
People crying about Max always brings a smile to my face. "I've played GT7. I know more than the 4x F1 WDC." Hahah
Max is Max. Creating spectacles. On the edge, over the edge, who cares. This is what we love to see. Drivers with balls
As a guy who use to race both sim and real life.... It's a big difference in being overly aggressive in game and in actual wheel to wheel combat. People who don't know the difference are entertained by it, but it's a real difference when YOU'RE IN THE CAR IRL!... Clean overtakes will always trump divebombs in the end.
yep!
16:25 I'm baffled by how much time you spent on this corner. Max was clearly ahead both times, and he made the turn. It's a multiclass race. Obviously the guy on the outside needs to back off.
17:20 okay mate, you got me. This is just engagement bait. I commented twice, so there you go. I'll like the video as well 👍
Sounds like lando doing a science project on max
Incident 1 = ok. Incident 2 = at fault. Incident 3 = ok. Incident 4 = looks like Max might have been heading for the pits or hoping to take outside line. Incident 5 = not at fault. Incident 6 = not at fault. Incident 7 = he opened up the steering to avoid the car on inside. Incident 8 = his fault. Incident 9 = ok. Incident 10 = at fault. Incident 11 = at fault. Incident 12 = fine. Incident 13 = legally ok, but too aggressive. Incident 14 = ok.
Max races the rest of the field hard, expecting them to be as knowledgeable and as skillied as he is when it comes to race craft. But when it comes to blue flag situations for instance he has to take into account that the drivers are most likely extremely shook when they see MAX 'fkn' VERSTAPPEN in their rear view mirror and the other drivers may fumble and overly slow to allow him past. I've never been in the same race as Max, but I know I'd be overthinking how I'm gonna defend or when/where I'm gonna let him through safely and correctly.
So there is a significant difference.
Max has grown up sim racing where there are no consequences.
Modern safety of F1 including the halo and the massive tractor cars is also much better. Not to mention massive runoff areas and barriers etc.
Senna, Mansell etc drove a 1000 HP go cart, sitting fully exposed and not unusual for several drivers to die each year.
There was little run off areas.
It's not the same
HES RUNNING INTO PEOPLE....😂
first comment
How would you justify buying a sim steering wheel?
and if so, should I buy a budget wheel or wait longer and get a mid tier wheel?
Definetely buy a budget to see if sim racing is for you or not, then stay with it as long as you can / a year is a good amount of time/ and save money, then buy a top tier if you like it a lot and call it a day!!!
I started with the G29, then bought a GT DD Pro 8nm because most videos say that 8nm is enough for most people - NO it is not. 8nm is the absolute minimum to have fun and to feel the road and keep you interested for longer time. You need more. Now I can’t wait to get the Simucube 2 Pro. I shouldve skipped the GTDD Pro and shouldve started with Trustmaster because they have a different levels budget wheels also decent shifter and handbrake compare to Logitech. Moza is a great option to look at if you are on PC. And I think PC is where you should start on, because that is the base. Components for PC are cheaper, you can mix and match pedals and wheels and also you will have the best sim platforms like iRacing, R Factor2, Automobilista 2, ACC - LFM and Le Mans Ultimate and Microsoft Flight Simulator if you want to. To play on a single 1440p monitor you don’t need a very expensive or capable PC. But that is how I would’ve started if I start all over again, and would’ve saved some money.
Because let’s face it - if you like it like most people you would end up with top equipment anyway, so the less equipment you buy between budget and top - the better.
Buy a entry level wheel to start with to find out if the hobby is for you. If you find out you're in it for the long haul, then buy the best you can afford when rdy to upgrade.
I don't like to waste money upgrading all the time, so I went from a GT DD Pro (entry) to a Simucube 2 Pro. Never upgrading again (unless my wheel base dies, which is unlikely) ..
You can't use footage from that charity event and use that against Max to say hes a dirty or aggressive driver, go watch all the drivers streams from the event, particularly Jimmy Broadbent's video, everyone was crashing it wasn't serious racing.
Definitely not.😂
Odd to give so much excuse to Max via netcode, as if Max hasn't been on the service for 10 years, which is more than long enough to learn that a gap that is exactly big enough isn't actually big enough because of netcode inaccuracy. The rest of us mostly manage to race while keeping netcode in mind. Why can't Max?
Max can be a dirty driver, but only when it matters for the win or the championship. By default he is a respectful driver. I always compare it with a football player. A player that has to prevent a broken through attacker to score, will mow him down, taking the red card in his stride. That is how top sport work. It is not about being fair 100%. It is about results.
If you’re asking yourself and others if he’s a dirty driver he’s indeed a dirty driver
He has simply realised that he can use other peoples cars as braking aids, and he gets away with it, I appreciate you making this video, but even then you give him the benefit of the doubt simply because he's an F1 driver, if you watch those incidents not knowing who the driver was would you come to the same conclusion ?
He isn't a dirty racing driver, just very aggressive. (not a Max fan, don't hate him or like him just not a fan as i don't believe in putting people on a pedestal )
Max is the GOAT. He's a 4x World champion. Those that dislike him will still brag in years to come to tell people they were there to witness him do it. Enjoy it while it last's. These drivers only come around once and a while. He's on the same list as Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton.
I think some people need to understand this is a competition. This is racing. If you come to a race to be nice or just avoid having incidents you will never be as fast as you need to succeed. This doesn't apply only to racing. There's competitiveness in real world jobs as well where only the bests will clash to get the best results
There's a difference between competing and crashing out other competitors. In many of these clips he's crashing out others not even in his class for no valid reason. Max is a selfish troll that only cares about himself. Very low class and not much skill. If he had a lot of skill he wouldn't need to crash others out or dive into the corner taking their line forcing them wide to win. That move is like a spoiled little Princess that has to have her way or she will cry.
@777trader8 Im not saying anything about max being wrong or right in the clips. It's obvious that he crashes a lot and we can see that half of the collisions are his fault. But my message was for the people who think competition is a solidarity cause
@@777trader8 "Not much skill" LOL you are a mega clown for that statement. 4x World Champion F1 driver and widely considered by other simmers to be one of the best.
tbf, I dislike Max and I personally think he's a really dirty driver. but the incident at 3:00 was that the Miata in front turned in late. I bet Max thought the Miata in front saw him and was gonna leave him space, and then the Miata did a big turn in and Max jammed on his brakes cause he knew he was about collide. Honestly, I'd kinda say racing incident there.
Don’t read into this. Watch the broadcast. Maybe talk more about the ways in which money was raised in this race.
yeah this man is analyzing and saying ''What would you do if you were the FIA?'' bro come on🤣🤣
@@RobbsHQ its just that this particular race was driven with a different spirit to the norm. this driving was well within the spirit of the race. the naughty driving actually raised more money and they smashed records.
@@andyreader3867 Yeah I agree, it was all about having fun, I enjoyed watching the streams online. It just a shame that this video did not capture that.
@@andyreader3867 right, tons of jokes over voice chat about "being the first to the apex", several jokes on stream from his teammates saying "divebomb is critical for our race" lmao
Dirty or not, he is the best of em all in simracing and formula 1. I like his driving style and his aggressive stand against the fia.
You say it as a matter of fact that Max gets in a lot of incidents. But these are like 2-3 clips each from individual 24 hours races, right? What are you comparing him to? What are the other driver's rate of incidents?
3:30 he lost the back and is trying to get it backl
I want to see Kimi in iRacing preferably against Verstappen and want to hear his voice 😂 !!!
Great footage of Max!
reminds me of Karen25
Whahhaha everyone punted everyone in this race bro.. 😅😅 it was heaps of fun to watch the carnage and people just enjoying the stints and drama
Imo There are loads of drivers that drive like max and they have good results normally at the expense of the other drivers.
I think being a good sim racer u have to have the skill to not hit cars. When I race on iRacing that’s my like number 1 priority
The irony od this being a charity event for the MIND mental health team... is that with all these incidents (whether Max's fault or not) may well have caused a bunch of drivers to talk to someone due to stress after the race.. 🤦lol
(PS. I'm just joking and not making light of mental health at all! ... I've used this very helpline myself in the past and the call handlers are incredible! Non-judgemental and are extremely easy to talk to about ANY issues you may be struggling with!) 💪✌
The telemetry footage from Jedda's 21 brake test answers the video's question.
please tell me its not the telemetry from that reddit post because that was fake you can tell by watching his onboard non of it matches
Real racers usually don't take sim racing seriously. Max at least attempts to be competitive.
Low IQ video big time.
Of how many hours of sim racing is this?
It seems Max expects slower cars to be able to avoid a crash even when they don’t have a car that can do that
I think that he expects slower cars to let him pass.I dont know what happens in the game or in real racing in those sports but in F1 a car that is a lap down have to let the others pass.
so this charity event so take it as pinch of salt. but in Wec and imsa you would not get a gt3 car trying to overtake a porotype/hyper car unless they were on stone cold tyres or there was problem with car.
Well guess what, he's having fun as was everyone else in that race. Plenty of accidents happened. Look at any of his "serious" races like the nurburgring 24h etc. Do you see him in these accidents there? No
I will not defend Max, but it was a bad car combo.. prototypes are just to fast for Zolder and the difference between MX5 and prototype is just to big..
As long as he is ahead at the apex and he makes the corner it's fair in my opinion the defending driver also has to react to it, before the entry of a corner look in the mirror to see if the attacking car goes for it and if he does then expect anything!!
Ohhh sorry I thought it was on the overtaking car to make sure theumy do it safely. I didn't know it was on the defending car to make sure the car behind them doesn't punt them into the shadow realm 😂
as i said if the attacking car gets ahead before the apex while also making the corner, the defending car must expect him there and not just keep turning into the attacking car on the inside , you got a rear view mirror for a reason and you can't decide if the driver behind is willing to go for the gap or not. it's racing at the end of the day
He's not as bad as Maldonado/Mazepin/Grosjean/Torpedo/Magnussen but yes...
Well when you don't have the pace you get dirty
Mate amazing unique content as awalys.
Could you make a tutorial on how to find max on iracing and how to follow a path in iracing to race max? Would make great video.
Max races like he is the only one at the track.
But thank god his cult is on standby to defend every critical comment.
He race for him self & to hell if you get in his way All he wants every one to know it especially his opposition he want them to fear and get out of his way All the greats have been guilty of the same but they didn’t make it so obvious like Max does.
No, he's an aggressive driver. There's a difference.
I make it short for you - yes, yes he is
Just inchidents
There's a reason why he always wins
This is a charity race. If someone pays money for charity they can give him or others, drive-throughs, or they have to sing a song, tell a joke etc. So why did you take this race to show us how he drives??? There's more than enough footage of him racing on iRacing at serious events. Just another video to criticize Max and get your clicks. Keep trying buddy but Max will forever be one of the best drivers and certainly the best on the grid at this moment.
4:30 funny
Yeah so I stopped watching when I got 3 lots of adverts within 10 minutes. far too much
3:40 "I'm a racing driver" you've got to be kidding me right? You drive gran turismo.......................
@Kireth I think this is a very disingenuous video. You are analysing Max's racing from a charity race that is designed to be silly with no normal racing rules. Drivers are being told "you must lunge the next corner, it's imperative for the race", drivers are given stop go penalties based on donations (11 in one go for one driver), and the race ends in a massive crash every year on purpose. The race is all in very good humour and dodgy driving is pretty much encouraged. Obviously you know all of this having raced in it yourself yet you are analysing the racing as if it's under normal/serious racing rules.
hes just another clout chaser using Max's name to try and grow his channel. Its so obvious. I see it all over youtube.
Max is the dirtiest F1 driver I have ever seen in 40 years of watching the sport
Prost?
@@Kireth Prost had his moments but generally disliked risking contact.... unlike Max
btw I didn't mean there was a dirtier driver 40 years ago... just how long I've been watching
Yes verstappen is wreck less in real life and sims… absolutely. If Leclerc and others didn’t move Verstappen would have had so many crashes by now.
Leclerc doesn't back off with max lol
This video could have been 3 seconds long. All you needed to do was show the word yes. We've all know for years Max is dirty, it's just he's always bent the rules to get away with it.
thats not bending the rules just exploring them to their limit
Hes following the rules of the sport
Dirty.😂
cry more kireth
Hooray clickbait!!!
Max is a BEAST. On his way to the GOAT
No
I'm not sure I'd 100% say he's dirty. I think I'd say he has a belief that hes absolutely entitled to every bit of road, to the point where he thinks others should be automatically moving out of the way for him.
Kind of reminds me of a young Vettel, but Vettel well and truly grew up.
early in iracing max expect expect like all ppl around pro, guys use mirrors, all three. But time show him, ppl with rating 5k and lower not use it at all or get out the way immediately)
I think he brutes his way through. He takes risks that are guaranteed to result in unsporty behaviour. He pays the price later instead of assuring to not need to pay a price. He drives a way that is in the grey zone that affects peers negatively, which is positive for him. Only seldom does he get severe penalties.
Yep, he certainly is a dirty driver and basically a thug. We've seen it over the years with Dani, Charles, and now Lando. The guy needs a race ban, or 3, to try to get him to clean up his act. 😢
You only see the positives of your driver and only see the negatives of Verstappen.
Drivers make mistakes, they crash it is part of the sport. Stop focussing on Verstappen and only see issues when you see him.
womp womp
I can smell teamLH a mile off. hes not a dirty driver and definitely not a thug. The only driver on the grid the greats like Senna or Schumacher would respect is Verstappen
Yes...
Yep
Why is there even doubt about this ? Yes he is dirty af