Watching this video has convinced me that two layers of 5/8” Baltic birch with the bottom layer slightly wider for the planer to ride on is what I will do. This is just a shooting board not a piece of furniture and plywood eliminates the warping issue.
Brilliant. Thanks much, as a hobbyist, my saw skills leave much to be desired. Sawing a little off the line and chiseling back is a brilliant trick I haven’t seen before.
Why wouldn't they? Does the whole world need one single standard measurement system to make sense? Methods of measuring rise and fall, travel around, and eventually die. We don't weigh ourselves in "stone" anymore. Eventually, maybe metric will become the standard world wide and no other system will exist, but just slap inches on one side of a ruler/measuring tape and centimeters on the other and it doesn't really matter anymore, does it?
@@512banana1 No worries, I'm not upset, I just get tired of hearing the same old "Everyone should use metric!" rhetoric. Like, does everyone in the world have to use Euro to measure value or is it okay to keep dollars, yen, and every other coin in the world? Variety is the spice of life after all. England tends to keep itself separate from Europe in a lot of ways. Always has. Inches came from England so it wouldn't surprise me if they were the last country still using them when the US finally flips. But I think the two might be having a stubbornness competition to see who holds onto them longest.
@@Nurk0m0rathcontext from a brit: we use both systems interchangeably across the country. Imperial tends to feel more human and relative to parts of the body (a thumb joint can be about an inch, a forearm about a foot etc), plus it's much simpler to estimate with. Metric tends to be more common for calculation and scientific approaches. I personally believe using both for different purposes is wiser. 185 centimeters is very abstract when you're trying to visualise a distance, but 6ft is quite easy to segment without rote memorisation. Hope this helps :)
You've given me a few interesting Wikipedia pages to read! In short: It comes from revisions on previous measurement systems, depending on who was in charge at the time. Today they use a mix of both, depending on the context. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_units en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weights_and_Measures_Acts_(UK) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_Convention en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units#United_Kingdom
Low angle plane: 30 degree iron (recommended for end grain work by LN, though you could go smaller) bedded upward at 12 degrees: 42 degree working angle. Standard plane: any iron bedded at 45 degrees: 45 degree working angle. There's not that much difference in the presentation of the actual cutting edge. The low angle plane lets you more easily vary the angle though, including going shallower (veritas has 25 degree standard for shooting: 37 degree working angle), using different irons or re-sharpening for different circumstances. But as we just saw: standard angle works fine. The main thing: keep it sharp.
You’re not taking heavy cuts with a shooting board, you’re finessing a nearly square cut. Your plane can be very finely set. The workpiece is set against the sole of the plane, the amount of blade projection will determine the amount you are removing. It’s all about micro-adjusting, not hogging off material. Hope this helped.
the truth is they do snag a bit if you're not careful. But they do the job and sometimes you have to use the tools at tour disposal, not go out and buy new just because.
When shooting, doesn't the plane remove material from the edge of the shooting board, slowly over time? Seems like it would get things out of true, unless one could install a narrow metal rail along the bottom edge, so that the bed of the plane (not the iron) was always in contact with the original imaginary plane of the edge of the shooting board.
With very few exceptions, the blade on most bench planes does not go edge to edge. There is a small area, maybe 1/8-3/16" wide, between the edge of the blade and the outside cheek of the plane body. The blade *will* bite into the edge of the shooting board initially. How much depends on how far you have it protruding. But once that first little bit is cut away it will create a tiny shelf, and then the plane will stop on that edge area between the blade and the outside of the cheek. Hopefully that makes sense 👍
Came here from Rex Kruger. Glad he sent me, thx for the back to basics lesson. 👍
Truly beautiful work my English Woodworking man! Sent here by Rex Kruger by the way.
Bob
England
Live n northern ireland, watching Rex and end up back hear. Lovely
Watching this video has convinced me that two layers of 5/8” Baltic birch with the bottom layer slightly wider for the planer to ride on is what I will do. This is just a shooting board not a piece of furniture and plywood eliminates the warping issue.
Brilliant. Thanks much, as a hobbyist, my saw skills leave much to be desired. Sawing a little off the line and chiseling back is a brilliant trick I haven’t seen before.
Been away for a while.Glad to be back enjoying no nonsense lessons.Thanks.
Awesome, love your no thrills approach
Rex sent me
Bloody fantastic!
Love you dude, wish you could have more videos coming up! Hey quick question, why do English people use inch?
Why wouldn't they? Does the whole world need one single standard measurement system to make sense? Methods of measuring rise and fall, travel around, and eventually die. We don't weigh ourselves in "stone" anymore. Eventually, maybe metric will become the standard world wide and no other system will exist, but just slap inches on one side of a ruler/measuring tape and centimeters on the other and it doesn't really matter anymore, does it?
@@Nurk0m0rath bro relax, i was just being curious. i thought European use metric
@@512banana1 No worries, I'm not upset, I just get tired of hearing the same old "Everyone should use metric!" rhetoric. Like, does everyone in the world have to use Euro to measure value or is it okay to keep dollars, yen, and every other coin in the world? Variety is the spice of life after all.
England tends to keep itself separate from Europe in a lot of ways. Always has. Inches came from England so it wouldn't surprise me if they were the last country still using them when the US finally flips. But I think the two might be having a stubbornness competition to see who holds onto them longest.
@@Nurk0m0rathcontext from a brit: we use both systems interchangeably across the country.
Imperial tends to feel more human and relative to parts of the body (a thumb joint can be about an inch, a forearm about a foot etc), plus it's much simpler to estimate with. Metric tends to be more common for calculation and scientific approaches.
I personally believe using both for different purposes is wiser. 185 centimeters is very abstract when you're trying to visualise a distance, but 6ft is quite easy to segment without rote memorisation.
Hope this helps :)
You've given me a few interesting Wikipedia pages to read!
In short: It comes from revisions on previous measurement systems, depending on who was in charge at the time. Today they use a mix of both, depending on the context.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_units
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weights_and_Measures_Acts_(UK)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_Convention
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units#United_Kingdom
Nice work!
Josep
Barcelona
Did you do just all of this with the same plane?
How doesn't the regular jack plane not choke on the end-grain when shooting? I thought one would need a much lower angle to shoot?
Low angle plane: 30 degree iron (recommended for end grain work by LN, though you could go smaller) bedded upward at 12 degrees: 42 degree working angle.
Standard plane: any iron bedded at 45 degrees: 45 degree working angle.
There's not that much difference in the presentation of the actual cutting edge. The low angle plane lets you more easily vary the angle though, including going shallower (veritas has 25 degree standard for shooting: 37 degree working angle), using different irons or re-sharpening for different circumstances.
But as we just saw: standard angle works fine.
The main thing: keep it sharp.
You’re not taking heavy cuts with a shooting board, you’re finessing a nearly square cut. Your plane can be very finely set. The workpiece is set against the sole of the plane, the amount of blade projection will determine the amount you are removing. It’s all about micro-adjusting, not hogging off material. Hope this helped.
the truth is they do snag a bit if you're not careful. But they do the job and sometimes you have to use the tools at tour disposal, not go out and buy new just because.
lovely lesson, thank you!!! What wood did you use here?
When shooting, doesn't the plane remove material from the edge of the shooting board, slowly over time? Seems like it would get things out of true, unless one could install a narrow metal rail along the bottom edge, so that the bed of the plane (not the iron) was always in contact with the original imaginary plane of the edge of the shooting board.
With very few exceptions, the blade on most bench planes does not go edge to edge. There is a small area, maybe 1/8-3/16" wide, between the edge of the blade and the outside cheek of the plane body.
The blade *will* bite into the edge of the shooting board initially. How much depends on how far you have it protruding. But once that first little bit is cut away it will create a tiny shelf, and then the plane will stop on that edge area between the blade and the outside of the cheek.
Hopefully that makes sense 👍