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КОМЕНТАРІ • 48

  • @Facebreaker500
    @Facebreaker500 Рік тому +42

    With Narset is out, if you replace your draws with dredge you can dredge as many as you want as long as you haven't draw a card at all. Since it's a replace effect she can't stop you from doing more than one dredge. But if you drew for turn then you can't dredge at all since she stops that.

    • @michaelmaurath109
      @michaelmaurath109 Рік тому

      Dredge is a replacement effect allowing you to still dredge through Narset no?

    • @Facebreaker500
      @Facebreaker500 Рік тому +8

      @michaelmaurath109 if you have drawn a card you can't dredge because she says no so you can't replace something that doesn't happen.

  • @CosmicGiggalo
    @CosmicGiggalo Рік тому +34

    That round three start was crazy!

    • @ShadowWasntHere8433
      @ShadowWasntHere8433 Рік тому +1

      That’s the rule rather than the exception for dredge. Generally end the turn with no deck

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 Рік тому +4

    The freaking balls of steel noah had keeping that first hand and going for that first turn’s actions.

  • @argoz91
    @argoz91 Рік тому +15

    Love the legacy content

  • @SaidYouStonez
    @SaidYouStonez 10 місяців тому +2

    First video of yours that Im watching and I got exactly what I hoped for! The play by play commentary helped me a lot, since Im an MTG noob

  • @thomasdawson7766
    @thomasdawson7766 Рік тому +4

    Love the Legacy content, PWP! Keep up the great work!

  • @ThatCoolCanadian
    @ThatCoolCanadian Рік тому +11

    9:44 Ichorid's power is 3. Noah gains 3 life instead of 2 from Swords to Plowshares

    • @revvy7973
      @revvy7973 Рік тому

      What

    • @anxoviqueira2669
      @anxoviqueira2669 Рік тому +3

      The life counter was set correctly

    • @mrib4135
      @mrib4135 Рік тому +1

      also, just before that, Cal is supposed to take 8 damage instead of 7. Putrid Imp has threshold and is a 2/2. 3+3+2=8

  • @JonathanHecht
    @JonathanHecht Рік тому +9

    what really is frustrating is that if we remove L.E.D from the dredge deck the decks price becomes much more affordable but if wizards weren't such absolute cowards with the reserve list we could have this amazing format be much more accessible to most players

    • @GatekeeperDatuck
      @GatekeeperDatuck Рік тому +3

      There have been good results with lists running Otherworldly Gaze instead of LED (and some other minor modifications). It leads to a less explosive deck, but one that is capable to grinding better.

    • @JonathanHecht
      @JonathanHecht Рік тому

      @@milesburgin6436 i checked and the LEDless lists run 3 copies of underground sea...

  • @Caliban_80
    @Caliban_80 Рік тому +2

    That double extraction tho

  • @robertobighini6172
    @robertobighini6172 Рік тому +2

    Evey time i see ypu giys play legacy i get exited ☺️ thanks for your work

  • @dasfabelwesen
    @dasfabelwesen Рік тому +2

    Fetchlands work different in legacy than in commander or modern. You fetch when you need something or when you want to shuffle, not end of turn.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Рік тому +2

      @Alex Bergie Of course you _can_ - the comment is about when you should.

  • @GatekeeperDatuck
    @GatekeeperDatuck Рік тому +1

    I can't figure out why Hogaak wasn't cast at 2:37. After playing the Cabal Therapy and getting 2 zombies, it should have been done before the end of the turn. Am I missing something?
    Also, around 8:30, I believe it is generally better to play land, LED, cast Faithless Looting while holding priority, then crack LED. Then Faithless Looting can be flashed back as well. This can allow for 4 dredges on turn one instead of 2 dredges. It is much more explosive.

  • @judgeeyejay2869
    @judgeeyejay2869 Рік тому +1

    Glad this series is back

  • @tiagocoelho9848
    @tiagocoelho9848 Рік тому

    9:17 worth noting from this point onward, putrid imp was hitting for 2, not for 1, as it was assumed from the life total drops until the end of the game. Considering how many attacks it pushed in, the game could've been over one turn earlier, burying the control player faster. By the end of the game he would be at 1 life, and would not be able to crack that scalding tarn he had in play. Wasn't relevant because he had no outs, but could've been.

  • @mrib4135
    @mrib4135 Рік тому +3

    Dredge: puts LED on the stack
    Me: countered...
    UW: resolves
    Me: wait... what?
    Dredge: puts Faithless Looting on the stack
    UW: Force of Will
    Me: ...better late than never I suppose
    Narrator: "with this complete blowout!"
    Me: what is happening!? XD
    The UW player didn't need the perfect information that we audience members had to conclude that LED was the spell to target with FoW. Always counter the first discard outlet you see against dredge, because the inevitability clock starts after the first dredger hits the yard. Furthermore, among discard outlets, LED is the highest prize. Big misplay by the control player.

  • @floridaman6982
    @floridaman6982 4 місяці тому +1

    Beautifully edited video

  • @fryderykwaswoicz7822
    @fryderykwaswoicz7822 Рік тому +1

    Enjoying these legacy video

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos Рік тому +1

    Dredge? Let's go!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Рік тому +1

    Winning despite that blowout... dredge is scary when you don't draw that graveyard hate.

  • @64lundyco
    @64lundyco Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see someone play the 8-cast painter deck

  • @deanlinden1635
    @deanlinden1635 Рік тому +1

    Do you guys to plan to play any pauper or pioneer games?

  • @joaquintristan4373
    @joaquintristan4373 Рік тому

    That’s crazy!

  • @Blahblahadama
    @Blahblahadama Рік тому

    Loving the legacy content.

  • @alexandercruz5486
    @alexandercruz5486 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @Dracomandriuthus
    @Dracomandriuthus Рік тому +1

    Dredge has some troubles in current legacy, since many decks either can race it or are MDing Endurance.

  • @WarpstoneSpeedSnorter
    @WarpstoneSpeedSnorter Рік тому

    Gotta pay the troll toll

  • @Basskin
    @Basskin Рік тому

    Love this.

  • @Battleball42
    @Battleball42 Рік тому +1

    I love watching paper legacy gameplay. Keep up the great work. Would love to see the new sneak and show deck with atraxa, or possibly the new mono red stompy initiative deck. Also, I love a good lands deck, nothing better than a sweet 20/20 smashing face.

  • @adriancaminati9640
    @adriancaminati9640 Рік тому

    why does legacy dredge not use cheeping chill, seems like a really good card in general

  • @drewdanaceau8844
    @drewdanaceau8844 Рік тому

    At 4:17-4:38, wouldn’t putrid imp have dealt 2 dmg in combat since the discard ability technically resolved?

    • @mrib4135
      @mrib4135 Рік тому

      No, for a couple reasons. The discard ability isn't what pumps PImp, it's the threshold ability. Dredge deck didn't have threshold at the time.

  • @tors17
    @tors17 Рік тому

    Where can I buy Noah's playmat?

  • @marianoscolari7447
    @marianoscolari7447 Рік тому

    Is Noah list available?

  • @JG1075
    @JG1075 Рік тому

    6:58 - Noah wouldn't draw at all due to Narset. As they'd already taken their draw for that turn.

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  Рік тому

      Hence the animation at that timestamp.

    • @JG1075
      @JG1075 Рік тому

      @@PlayingWithPowerMTG Assumed that was a 'Whoopsie, they played into Narset'. Usually your commentary points out mistakes like drawing the card that shouldn't have been.