Dear Ford, You're FAILING Mustang Enthusiasts...

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  • @DerekBaranProductions
    @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +21

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  • @jonathannoe4100
    @jonathannoe4100 11 днів тому +145

    Ford has priced the Mustang out of their target market. Most of us that have bought Mustangs in past, just simply can’t afford them now. I’m not even talking about the high end ones. Base model aren’t near as attainable as they used to be.

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +19

      This is true but i feel like things have inflated as a whole

    • @jonathannoe4100
      @jonathannoe4100 11 днів тому +5

      @@DerekBaranProductions💯. Very true!

    • @AngerMaker413
      @AngerMaker413 9 днів тому +2

      This is such a stupid argument. If you compare ten years ago to now and include inflation it’s the same. This is the same market of people willing to pay 80k+ for a dodge. The same market of people willing to pay 40k for a v6 Camaro, the same market of people willing to pay 35k for a 4 cylinder.
      It’s priced appropriately, the problem is the economy itself.

    • @iz7fmm
      @iz7fmm 9 днів тому +4

      @@AngerMaker413 people no longer can afford them... other than price itself, interest rates, gas price and general life cost (mortgages, renting etc...) makes most of things basically unaffordable now!

  • @tylerdbrown20
    @tylerdbrown20 11 днів тому +91

    High price tag and NO TUNING is what's killing the Mustang sales. The value per dollar isn't there anymore.

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +1

      Its really not

    • @hbkingofthestreets9781
      @hbkingofthestreets9781 11 днів тому +1

      I so agree!!!

    • @tankeater
      @tankeater 9 днів тому +2

      You want to tune an ECU? Buy an after market ECU. Is that so hard??? Do you use your stock exhaust, or do you buy a new 1? Do you re-tred the same tires if you want a different compound? Please, tell me what mod you put on a vehicle that changes ZERO of the structural componet. All you children complaining about this is funny to me.

    • @Vegas5oh
      @Vegas5oh 9 днів тому +4

      ​@tankeater your a lil dim huh

    • @tankeater
      @tankeater 9 днів тому

      @@Vegas5oh no, you're obviously too slow to comprehend what I even said with your 1st grade response... People have been tuning 2024 5.0 Coyote motors for a year now. You're the one that listens to what fools have to say and take it as facts.

  • @philnorcross8973
    @philnorcross8973 11 днів тому +292

    I don’t think it has anything to do with tuning. It’s the price that is killing it.

    • @godbody6681
      @godbody6681 11 днів тому +16

      FACTS!

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +52

      That too forsure but not tuning is totally a factor with price

    • @MrKLenning
      @MrKLenning 11 днів тому +13

      Totally agree with the pricing being crazy!

    • @philnorcross8973
      @philnorcross8973 11 днів тому +15

      @@DerekBaranProductions Get rid of packages. Make the only options are seats. Eco gets split dash and starts at 29000, every GT is a 401a with price at 42000 and Dark Horse at 55000. And make them a low production car. That way resale value would stay high.

    • @erickpando120
      @erickpando120 11 днів тому +6

      @@DerekBaranProductionsi want an S650 so bad but they’re just so expensive… I’d gladly contribute to fords sales if they were reasonable

  • @gloentertainment7841
    @gloentertainment7841 8 днів тому +5

    I KNEW THAT WAS YOU!!! I was the one that pointed ‼️‼️‼️ GREAT to the car in person

  • @MaddNomad1015
    @MaddNomad1015 11 днів тому +50

    Ford: “Don’t worry about the price, here’s a Mustang sedan and Mustang F150”

  • @MrKLenning
    @MrKLenning 11 днів тому +51

    Ford totally needs to allow tuning for the S650s. Not everyone wants to drop a ton of cash into a Whipple kit, especially with how expensive the Gen 4s are!

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +2

      Exactly man. I dont blame people

    • @stangedude5646
      @stangedude5646 10 днів тому +1

      Hasn't price me out. The thing is just hideous. I'm looking at other cars.

  • @WobblinGoblin1
    @WobblinGoblin1 11 днів тому +29

    1. Price is too high
    2. The screens are anti-Mustang
    3. The tuning is locked
    There they are. The reasons why the Mustang isn't selling like it should.

  • @TwoLuckii
    @TwoLuckii 11 днів тому +17

    Prices are insane on these things. My friend and I were comparing the prices of the S550s to the S650s yesterday. We seen EcoBoost S650s in the same price range of GT S550s. We seen BASE S650 GTs in the same range as PREMIUM S550 GTs. The insane part of it, is that we seen the Dark Horse in the same price range of GT350s and certain GT500s. The price is probably why.

  • @JaytheJaskonian
    @JaytheJaskonian 11 днів тому +16

    As far as I can tell from what I've read online, the reason Ford won't allow tuning on the S650 is because cars nowadays are more computer than car. The S650 gets over the air updates from Ford to fix bugs in the software and add additional Gauge Cluster designs, which means the car has access to Ford's computer systems. This means in Ford's eyes, every single car essentially acts as an access point or backdoor to their internal computer systems. So, they see giving people the ability to tune their cars as allowing a potential vulnerability to take place where since consumers can tune the car, they can interface with something that has access to Ford's computer system, and that doesn't sit right with them. Most likely, if someone ever does actually manage to tune the factory S650 ECU, Ford will serve them with a lawsuit for tampering with their IT Security Systems. Because to them, these cars are computers and computers need to be secured. I'd say, if people can create a completely third party aftermarket ECU that replicates the factory computer lanes the car needs to function, but is completely separated from Ford's own internal systems, therefor no over the air updates or Ford remote diagnostic services, that will most likely be the only way that any of us will ever be able to tune the S650 from home.
    The only reason that the Whipple kits allow for a tune is because Whipple is partnered with Ford, and they're the ones accessing the cars, not the actual consumer. If something in Ford's systems were to be compromised because they gave Whipple access to tune the cars (i.e. someone using the tools Whipple includes in their supercharger kit to tune a car in ways Ford and Whipple don't intend), Ford would most likely axe their partnership with Whipple and discontinue all support for their products in the future. Likely suing Whipple for the 'breach' as well. Just another reason I don't see tuning on the S650 to be a possibility any time soon.

    • @ryanr2347
      @ryanr2347 10 днів тому +8

      This is actually such a unique point and it honestly makes sense, just really sucks that you can’t tune the S650 for whatever reason

    • @86SVO7B
      @86SVO7B 10 днів тому +1

      Well put. Didn’t think about that.

    • @newedge2001-z5d
      @newedge2001-z5d 10 днів тому +4

      Thanks for the insight! Guess i'll be hanging on to my outdated mustangs for a long,long time!👍

    •  9 днів тому +1

      This sounds like a problem that Ford created, if that is infact the case.
      Software-as-a-service has really been an enabler of laziness and corner cutting in my opinion. Just release a damn good product with some halfway decent foresight and these manufacturers wouldn't have to 'tie strings' to their products.

  • @josevena6098
    @josevena6098 11 днів тому +34

    The pricing on the new 2024s are pretty insane man, I remember when I bought my 2020 gt premium I spent 38k

    • @jgspeed2222
      @jgspeed2222 11 днів тому +16

      Now 38k buys you an eco boost

    • @5.0-LJ_
      @5.0-LJ_ 11 днів тому +7

      That's called inflation, the S650 isn't over priced it's simple no tuning or any new innovation. M cars are expensive and selling like crazy.

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +1

      They are fr

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому

      THIS is true too

    • @trentmclellan1037
      @trentmclellan1037 11 днів тому +3

      Inflation shouldn’t rise prices that much that’s like a candy bar being $10 dollars, yes inflation, but not that much

  • @wesd2845
    @wesd2845 11 днів тому +18

    You are spot on with everything you said. I'd rather have a low mileage Mach 1 or GT350 then the new s650GT or DH.

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +4

      Cant argue that man.

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 11 днів тому +2

      550 looks better to me

    • @Twolife
      @Twolife 11 днів тому +1

      @@senorpepper3405 Yep, and who's idea to put 6 headlights on a Mustang?

  • @AllThingsBoost
    @AllThingsBoost 11 днів тому +35

    I think there is just not enough to differentiate it from the s550 other than a few styling mods to make it a desireable buy. The s550 looks just as killer, more performance options, and you save 10-20k+ over a new one. S650 simply offers less for more. It's no wonder it doesn't sell. Keep up the sweet vids man!

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +1

      Youre exactly right

    • @carlrodd8510
      @carlrodd8510 9 днів тому

      other than the screens there's precious little different between the 550 and 650. the floorpan and front "frame" are identical (check the slots on the rs "frame rail" by the fuse box, the 550 mounting is there).
      two things going against the 650. 1) there aren't any other pony cars so there's no intercompany rivalry. 2) by the time you get a decent 650 and Whipple you can own a car that doesn't rattle and pop from the factory.
      anyway. sad days for the pony car world.

  • @wallmart1sh
    @wallmart1sh 11 днів тому +20

    It’s price for me I made what I wanted on Fords site it was going to be around 59k for what I wanted. So I was going to wait a year and save up. Now the same build is now 63k!! WTF?

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +1

      Yeah its insane fr

    • @TO-dl2gg
      @TO-dl2gg 8 днів тому +2

      Go build one on Fords site and then compare to leftover 24’s on cars guru or something like it and you’ll a dramatic price difference..Ford has become extremely greedy from price of vehicle to shutting out the after market with keeping ecu locked out wich also affects content creators such as this guy…Instead of keeping such a symbiotic relationship with enthusiasts like no other car makers they get greedy so good I’m happy sales are down and I’m sure they saved a lot of $$$$ on R&D from the knowledge of what enthusiasts have accomplished customizing these vehicles..Very disappointed in ford for this ..

  • @KoleWhirld
    @KoleWhirld 11 днів тому +9

    I’m literally going to test drive an S650 tomorrow. 300a, white, 10spd. I wasn’t interested because they wouldn’t budge on the price. That was a month ago, HOWEVER, I got a phone call yesterday saying that the price has dropped by 5,000 on the one I was I previously looking at. Now being a long time subscriber (Re-Do Blu) I have to say, you make a very good point. I knew about the locked ECU, but like you, I was optimistic about the future of the platform. Now that I have realized that my guy has had his for a year….and Ford has done nothing, I’m not sure what I’m going to do. GREAT VIDEO bro. Looking forward to more Blucifer content…maybe i should just get a S197 instead🤔

    • @clayh2643
      @clayh2643 11 днів тому +5

      I get what you’re saying but I did want to say this. Stock for stock. It’s the fastest muscle car out right now. Naturally aspirated that is. Secondly the car’s computer even without the tune is automatically calibrating for bolt on modifications without the tune. Headers, intakes, and fuel even with no tune are still picking up good power. With headers and intakes you’re going to be able to run close to an 11.5 and your 60-130 will be in the 9s. Which is super solid. Plus the new interiors are awesome. Im a Camaro owner, I love talking trash on stangs lol, it’s good fun for sure. I’ve owned two 5.0’s in the past though and the S650 has some seriously cool features.

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +2

      Go s550 mach 1

    • @hatch450sx3
      @hatch450sx3 10 днів тому +1

      ​@@clayh2643 that "auto calibration" sees no gains at all what is the point a Lund 93 tune ffe s550 puts a train on the heavier s650.
      You are delusional.
      On paper a Whipple s650 makes how much 800hp? My s550 with headers and Whipple 3.0 Lund tune put 2 plus cars on a Whipple s650 I raced. I make 700 to the wheels. So a 100 plus HP car gets gapped by a fully loaded last gen. Stop apologizing for terrible products.

  • @S5fittyIvan
    @S5fittyIvan 11 днів тому +11

    Sold my gen 3 s550 about a year ago and man do I miss it 😓

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +5

      I miss the mach haha i feel you

    • @hatch450sx3
      @hatch450sx3 10 днів тому +1

      Tried to tell you to keep the mach. As long as Farley runs Ford it's a dead brand.

  • @Thai_Iced_Tea
    @Thai_Iced_Tea 11 днів тому +6

    Low sales definitely due to no tuning. People love modifying their cars and when you only have 2 options for boost: Roush and Whipple blowers, a lot of people are going to move to other platforms like the M series. Glad I kept my gen 3.

  • @TheJrt1983
    @TheJrt1983 11 днів тому +13

    Mainly the price imo but yet here I am stuck in the early 2000s in an 03 Cobra lol

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому

      Bro thats so true 🤣🤣🤣

    • @_Shake_i
      @_Shake_i 11 днів тому +1

      Fellow new edge owner🤟🏾😂

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 10 днів тому +3

      Same haha, love my new edge GT. Little modular engine refuses to die! 😂

    • @nberkel
      @nberkel 10 днів тому +2

      03 Cobra is where it's at, regardless of prices of newer cars!

    • @_Shake_i
      @_Shake_i 10 днів тому +2

      @ 4.6s never die easy

  • @M.R._Saar
    @M.R._Saar 9 днів тому +1

    Agreed on the price. I want the better manual. Naturally, I was looking at the Dark Horse. At the price, I could pick up a lightly used GT350 with the same transmission. Decided to wait to see what depreciation does to a Dark Horse and maybe pick up a CPO.

  • @Tubelly
    @Tubelly 11 днів тому +1

    Tuning options coming available might help sales come up but again I think like you covered earlier they are alot of moneys for getting a mustang

  • @parsley7894
    @parsley7894 11 днів тому +6

    Just bought a 24’ GT Premium (active exhaust + 20” wheels) before the new year. Several local dealers said they’ve been sitting on the lots for months. They blamed economy/2024 election “nerves” and just the lack of interest locally in coupes over Broncos and Trucks. I was happy to grab mine several grand under MSRP and got an interest rate through Ford about 1/2 of what my banks were offering (horrible) on new vehicles.
    I’d say price, interest rates and declining interest in coupes are all to blame over the actual vehicle’s blemishes/negatives.
    So far, I love the look and drive of my new S650.

    • @hatch450sx3
      @hatch450sx3 10 днів тому +2

      No it's tuning. People like me who had money ready to boost a car off rip can't tune it we ain't gonna buy.
      I went and bought 22 right before the 24 launched after hearing it had rolling encryption and Shelby raptor r was still untunable.
      Now I'm sitting at 700whp daily and no 24 mustang wants to even try to run me.

    • @PerfectPrinceX1
      @PerfectPrinceX1 9 днів тому +1

      i just got a 24 too. theyll hack it eventually and this no-tune point will be moot.

    • @scarlettjo5.0
      @scarlettjo5.0 9 днів тому

      @@hatch450sx3you’re right car enthusiasts want more power, we always itching for that adrenaline 😂😂

  • @gregcamacho5857
    @gregcamacho5857 11 днів тому +7

    I think is a combination of all, the price the non tune and the lost of quality on Fords part to make good reliable muscle cars

  • @S650MustangGT
    @S650MustangGT 10 днів тому +1

    Really good point on tuning and it’s relationship to sales!

  • @mikenorton8588
    @mikenorton8588 11 днів тому +5

    I totally agree. Everyone doesn't have the budget for a whipple.

  • @tthom8297
    @tthom8297 10 днів тому +1

    Does anyone know If the Dark Horse Front bumper will fit on the 5.0 ?

  • @Mr.P1neappl3
    @Mr.P1neappl3 10 днів тому

    You seem happier in this video with such good vibes. Hope you genuinely happy and getting over the winter depression

  • @2003cobramustang
    @2003cobramustang 11 днів тому +5

    Yes ford definitely needs too change things and make them tunable. I do like your 24! Sales would spike if they unlock the tune.

  • @Fahrenheit38
    @Fahrenheit38 10 днів тому +1

    Cant get over the 2024 interior, that dash is a imax screen and HVAC in a touch screen is a deal breaker. So happy with my 2022

  • @Nicholas.Lawrysh
    @Nicholas.Lawrysh 8 днів тому

    I have a 2024 mustang GT 301a MT.82 and personally I really like the screens I love the car. only complaint I have is tuning is still locked. I’m keeping my hopes up it comes out this year.

  • @MATRIX9905
    @MATRIX9905 11 днів тому +3

    the price for these alone drag the sales down so much
    especially dodge, if both companies drop vehicle prices sales will go up SO much

  • @BlackBoneRacing-y4i
    @BlackBoneRacing-y4i 2 дні тому

    I have a '24 base GT and got it for 43+K. I'd say it's not a bad price for what I got (considering the economy at the time). I took it to HPDEs last summer and had a lot of fun. But, it is extremely frustrating not being able to tune it. I installed the X-pipe, took out the carbon filters, and changed the air filters. I even Dremel'd out the grill in front of the air intakes to clear the path. I can't do anything else, except spend another 12K on a supercharger (all in) in order to bump the performance. That's insane. And, I don't have 12k. I emptied my bank account on the car itself. Sadly, I saw the same car for '25 is now 47k.

  • @nationescobedo40
    @nationescobedo40 11 днів тому +4

    I agree with you and am returning my 24 5.0 manual for the same reason.

  • @Fordishperformance
    @Fordishperformance 9 днів тому

    4:30 ugh the coyote cold start sound is horrible, that should be fixed by ford too lol. So if I understand correctly, the ECU is locked and you cannot tune anything else, only be allowed to install a Whipple and THEIR tune only?

  • @SpeedyGeneralMotorsINC
    @SpeedyGeneralMotorsINC 11 днів тому +2

    Just an idea but what do you think about a terminator swap in blue2valve?? Zr1 and blucifer looking good in the garage

  • @shanemcnally365
    @shanemcnally365 11 днів тому +1

    I got an s650 last year as my first “sports car”. Going from a civic to american muscle was great so I’ve had a blast all year with it. Still love it to death but really want to enjoy it more with tuning. Really holding me back from modifying the car since the only option is supercharged.

  • @PRamirez600
    @PRamirez600 11 днів тому +3

    really really good video! well spoken, very direct point good job, your content is always very enjoyable but this one really hit the mark! Subscribed!

  • @albertogarcia6348
    @albertogarcia6348 11 днів тому

    I read on the internet that it is possible to put a tune on a 2024 mustang GT it's just difficult because of the electronics but it can be done

  • @dylansgarage3549
    @dylansgarage3549 11 днів тому +1

    I feel your pain picked up a screw in my drag radials two weeks after I got them I patched plugged it and it’s been fine since

  • @Blueoval08
    @Blueoval08 10 днів тому

    Love it, the only thing I think you should add would be Diode Dynamics fog lights as the cherry on top

  • @basicautomotive5893
    @basicautomotive5893 7 днів тому

    How many miles have you put on it since you bought it.

  • @newedge2001-z5d
    @newedge2001-z5d 10 днів тому

    Pricing is getting too crazy on these Stangs Derek! I bought a new GT/CS in 22 and don't see me up grading anytime soon. I also have a newedge i almost got arrested in. Thank GOD the police officer was a Mustang enthusiast!😂I love my newedge.

  • @giftedcracker
    @giftedcracker 9 днів тому

    How is tuning still locked, but you can get a whipple tune?

  • @Tubelly
    @Tubelly 11 днів тому

    You have a good point with prices being way over the top right now but I don't think it's just limited to mustangs. I'd love to get into a mustang some day but I'm either gen 1 or gen 3 and both are actually holding their value simply cause of how bad the new ones are tanking

  • @txotacticle2514
    @txotacticle2514 11 днів тому +2

    To be fair, the mach-e had and still have a bunch of incentives as well as low aprs that played a role in their sales which could explain why they sold more than the 2024 mustangs

  • @jasonmcquinn6601
    @jasonmcquinn6601 10 днів тому

    Tuning might help some but I think the real issue is the price. These cars have insanely high prices now. In 2016 my S550 GT performance pack fully loaded cost me $36k. The same car now is approx $60k

  • @billlear5607
    @billlear5607 10 днів тому

    Uniontown ford in pa. Ordered a carbonized gray GT with the bronze package. It was one of the first 24’s to hit the lot in our area. And it is still setting there. It’s such a beautiful car I thought for sure it would have sold by now. Even though I don’t like the digital dashboard. I would still consider buying it if the price and interest rates weren’t so high.

  • @Lucky-zy8li
    @Lucky-zy8li 11 днів тому

    Derek you are the best automotive youtuber, Best looking Cars, Im trying to get my parents to buy me a 2014 Mustang GT premium in manual, I wanna start a youtube channel exactly like you man, build up a stang, You've inspired me Derek!

  • @Yellow_Car_Bad
    @Yellow_Car_Bad 5 днів тому

    The running thing is for sure an issue but also the main cause for lower sales is price…..

  • @Coyote9smilespergallon
    @Coyote9smilespergallon 11 днів тому +2

    So I've been subscribed for a long time thru a couple different YT channels I've had, somehow like a while back I got unsubscribed but I didn't do that, so heads up folks make sure to hit that button to fight back against the machine

  • @drivenbyadam
    @drivenbyadam 11 днів тому

    I agree Derek, it’s just not worth it when the S550 is so close to that generation, good video

  • @slidey8465
    @slidey8465 9 днів тому

    i def agree w you man i have a s650 myself, how much did your lowering springs lower the car? i love the fitment and want it on mine

  • @brentpaisley2983
    @brentpaisley2983 11 днів тому +4

    I’d never spend that kind of money on a vehicle this expensive that I can’t do what I want to it because I can’t tune it. I’ll just spend the money on an older one that I can tune it when ever I want

  • @gunellvaughn-jackson6274
    @gunellvaughn-jackson6274 10 днів тому

    Most mustang drivers including myself appreciate the upgraded interior and tech the lead contributor to the failure to market is tuning and number the PRICE. Here in Texas you see a lot of younger enthusiast in their 20s driving 5.0s but these s650 are out of their price range. However the Shelbys were always for the older or more established consumer

  • @BulliKid
    @BulliKid 10 днів тому +3

    This is not a Ford problem. This is a new problem that faces every performance manufacturer.

  • @kenna.9368
    @kenna.9368 9 днів тому

    I’m just getting into these. I like them and now want one but confused by all the S550 vs S650? Anyone care to educate me. I googled it and just get exterior differences in styling? What’s is it really?? Someone?

  • @robn_outdoors
    @robn_outdoors 10 днів тому

    I'm glad you mentioned the pricing cause that's a huge part of the failure. Tuning is a niche community whereas most will do an intake and exhaust and call it a day. Others might add suspension and wheels. Full bolt-on and tuning is a small percentage. The ridiculous prices of vehicles today is the biggest problem. Ford trucks and Broncos exceeding $80K is insane and they have lost me entirely. Therefore, I'll watch your awesome content and remember the days of my '89 GT with full bolt-ons and my '04 Mach 1 that I enjoyed so much. No chance I'm buying anything new. I make good money but between payments, insurance, and VA PP Tax it just makes no sense when it wouldn't be my daily.
    I do agree that tuning being unlocked would result in more sales. Maybe 5,000 more units or so.

  • @brxceod
    @brxceod 10 днів тому

    tbr if you got the money for the car then you got the money for a whipple to unlock tuning

  • @HRs_garage
    @HRs_garage 9 днів тому

    Gen 4’s also have stronger blocks and rotating assemblies. Me personally the Gen1 body with a 3-2-1 build will be the best

  • @jmasterlink13
    @jmasterlink13 11 днів тому

    I remember back when the s550 (15-17) were coming out you could get a very well optioned one (GT performance pack) around 32-37k brand new

  • @ctvette1318
    @ctvette1318 10 днів тому

    I think the price is reasonable relatively speaking. Bought my base GT brand new for $42k. I’m happy with that. I think the trend might reverse for next year. 1st year body style change, etc. takes time to grow on people.

  • @carloswells8469
    @carloswells8469 10 днів тому

    As a content creator do you control the frequency of ads? I’m 4 mins in and have literally seen 3 ad breaks.

  • @rossblondino1797
    @rossblondino1797 11 днів тому +2

    Hey man love the content! Also from VA had my S650 for about 5 months and love it! Granted I don’t have all the extra money for a whipple but still love doing the small thing to it. Got the Oxford white bronze package 43 out the door!! Keep up the great work!

  • @gaivoron
    @gaivoron 10 днів тому

    What's worth it?

  • @GamingWitRad
    @GamingWitRad 10 днів тому

    When the price drop and the ecu unlocks i might still consider but I think i wanna build a suv

  • @BLUMAGK
    @BLUMAGK 10 днів тому

    Great video, I own a S650 and love it, and most of the guys I know that have them enjoy them also. But that being said when folks talk to me about them the first thing they mention is the price. Everything is increasing in price hell look at the price of eggs. Be able to tune may have boosted sales slightly but there still would've been a decline in sales. Me what I think hurt sales is that a lot of orders were put on hold because couldn't get some options they wanted. Not saying it would've jumped 10,000 sales but quite a few folks still don't have cars they ordered.
    Just my Two cents, keep up the great content.

  • @PeterDePolo
    @PeterDePolo 10 днів тому

    my biggest thing as a dark horse owner is the fact that the interior rattles are horrible. for a 2024 with 1700 miles on it, the car rattles more than my 35 year old Miata with 200k on it. Idk if it’s just personal experience or not but it’s making me want to get rid of it already.

  • @Gypsy_Queenie
    @Gypsy_Queenie 11 днів тому

    What kills me is the price, Im going whipple with my gen 2 anyways so id love to get one with the s650 and I do dig the appearance of it. And as someone who's not shooting for like 1k hp I think id be fine with just the tune that comes with the whipple on the s650. But at the moment I just cant see myself dropping 40-60k on the s650 and then 10-12k for a whipple ontop of that

  • @jgspeed2222
    @jgspeed2222 11 днів тому +4

    They priced it too much out side of regular peoples budgets

  • @michaelbritton6174
    @michaelbritton6174 8 днів тому

    Hey I just wana say thanks I only use youtube to watch your videos any more.. but I wana take time to thank you..truly my girl friend passed away on Monday in car accident and I been binge watch all the old video I watched alot of them in the past but been a follower since 2022 love the channel bro

  • @gordydexter2615
    @gordydexter2615 11 днів тому

    Darek your S650 is an awesome Mustang GT. The price was the #1 reason for the lower sales. However, the lack of tuning due to the locked ECU/ECM is contributing to the lower sales!!!! Ford needs to wake the heck up‼️‼️‼️The price for the 2025 S650 has climbed almost $4K above the 2024. Plus interest rates to finance a new Mustang is also killing sales!!!! You are gonna miss your White S650 when it is down in Florida. Plus if it is not garage kept the heat and salt will age the car very quickly. I lived in Florida and couldn’t wait to get out of FL after 8 years. Many reasons to not live in Florida. South Carolina and North Carolina and Tennessee are much better weather to live and survive throughout the year.
    Miss your Mach I Brother!!!
    👍👊💪🐎🇺🇸😎

  • @remingtonhdez
    @remingtonhdez 11 днів тому +1

    Have you decided on what vehicle you are bringing to PITS?

  • @nachoaveragesingh6456
    @nachoaveragesingh6456 10 днів тому

    It’s the price, my GT Performance with magnaride in BC Canada was $83,000 after a last minute ford discount of $2,000. Couldn’t justify getting the Dark Horse and paying over $100,000 for it.

  • @gordonharold3081
    @gordonharold3081 9 днів тому

    Pricing and tuning

  • @chrishammillaudio
    @chrishammillaudio 10 днів тому

    Not being able to customize the new cars with a tune and the insane prices are what's killing the Mustangs. Ford's unfortunately lacking self awareness to realize this. They're being greedy with the price and they lost the point of what made the Mustang truly enjoyable for their enthusiasts. You said it, we don't want a ridiculous amount of tech and the Mustang to try and be something its not.
    My daily is a Golf GTI. I specifically bought a 2020 Mark 7.5 instead of the newer mark 8s with the all digital dash because I love seeing analog meters - tagging on what you said about the Shelby's not having digital dash's.
    I'd rather spend that kind of "24 Mustang" money on a nice 13-14 S197 and modify it like you did with Blucifer.
    Right now, I'm happy with my 2008 and putting some minor mods on it to make it "my own" for a total buy in for less than $20K and 33K miles when I bought it. If I ever get a newer one, it would be the 13-14.

  • @dillontitus8150
    @dillontitus8150 8 днів тому

    I've been waiting for years looking for a mustang. I hated the interiors on the 550s, and the previous boxy style prior.. when the 24s came out, i loved the interior. And the new front-end so I bought it. I constantly look online I think Ford prices have a lot to do with greedy dealerships.

  • @PUR3ST4R
    @PUR3ST4R 10 днів тому

    i plan on buying a s650 brand new this year price is scary but i’m only getting older and my dream car has always been a mustang

  • @cardellperry954
    @cardellperry954 7 днів тому

    Kmsl I had own a 20 330i and I must say the digital dash was lovely but the your right about the mustangs they wanna keep up with the Jones but they failing in performance production

  • @nicholasprivitera4202
    @nicholasprivitera4202 11 днів тому +1

    As a gen 3 S550 GT owner with a full bolt on E85 tune on it, I will say it is, out of the gate, phenomenal. I do agree that the sales may be down because of the locked ecu’s but it might also have to do with the fact that these, out of factory, are just not it. Kinda like you said, the new tech in the car kind of defeats the rawness and classic Mustang enthusiasts experience. If your buying a Mustang it’s because your into the heritage and the long dating history of the Mustang chassis. This is trying too hard to modernize and fit in with the new “muscle car” debate. Let’s face it, with the way the market is shaping up to be now, your buying a Mustang because it’s the true American muscle, whether that is because it’s the only one left out of the three or because it’s just simply better, the name carries more respect than any other brand. If ford is watching this then it should be a wake up call. “Don’t fix what is not broken” and if the gen 3s were top sellers then give us the evolution of that. Sure, the minor changes are appreciated and I’ve been in the s650s and can truly say they are still a great car despite those lacking areas, but give the people what they know best and what we, as consumers, will be happy to jump into everyday with a smile on our face knowing we can go gap nearly any car of the same category with a simple tune and modifications

  • @austinsebastiann
    @austinsebastiann 9 днів тому

    I left Ford Mustang and Shelby American multiple emails, messages on instagram page, commnents trying to emphasize issues that could be improved with the new models, and I was banned from Shelby Americans ig page after my comment got enough spotlight, and Ford keeps ignoring me. We as consumers need to come together so we can keep this a true american icon for muscle cars, its important that Jim Farley can address the public on things that need improvement, and we if we can't get across to corporate then someone needs to advocate for us.

  • @cormaro13
    @cormaro13 11 днів тому +1

    Need to add that form lighting side marker , rear reflectors and back up light next Derek

  • @VictoriaBarrios-lz1re
    @VictoriaBarrios-lz1re 10 днів тому

    Hey Derek, I have a 2017 GT what gen is that?

  • @49thkingdom
    @49thkingdom 10 днів тому

    My guess is that tuning rights go to the highest bidder. Ford is clocking in on the aftermarket money. Whipple clearly paid for some exclusivity and I think tuning won’t be available until that term is up.

  • @jeffreya-bomb7313
    @jeffreya-bomb7313 10 днів тому

    I had a supercharged Gen 3 and loved it. When this thing came out, I went the supercharged C7 Vette route and have zero regrets. Ford really dropped the ball.

  • @bwooters8227
    @bwooters8227 10 днів тому

    Shoulda whippled or done ESS on the mach 1 and kept it, i could see to the future when you mentioned selling it that you would sooner or later regret that. It wouldnt have been quite as fast as the s650 whippled but would have been super cool/fun and more of a “special” car in future but oh well could always get another or GT350

  • @freakinfunnyvids
    @freakinfunnyvids 7 днів тому

    Def the price and those ugly screens. I literally bought a gen 3 because of the screens. Then tuning, but I dont think tuning is the reason for low sales.

  • @Coyote9smilespergallon
    @Coyote9smilespergallon 11 днів тому +1

    There's a 2024 Darkhorse DBP blue 10spd for $57k on Cargurus 9k miles , that's worth it they have Differential coolers w/fans trans and oil coolers, magnaride susp, 4wheel brembos with drift brake, stringer stock engine, loaded Darkhorses are basically the New Mach1s with extra goodies even

  • @CarltonandCo
    @CarltonandCo 10 днів тому

    Already having the s550 I am so happy I never upgraded and I had many chances to. The 3rd gen has the better looks in my opinion and I got the PP1 at around 40k brand new, the s650 base is like 47k lol.

  • @YoungBoiThrOweD93
    @YoungBoiThrOweD93 10 днів тому

    Who won the gt500 for the raffle was that already announced??

  • @ChrisFish17
    @ChrisFish17 10 днів тому

    i literally bought a 2022 with 12k miles a month ago bc i didn't like having two big screens in my face, saved me like 15k going with a used s550.

  • @Axle-7
    @Axle-7 10 днів тому

    How do you figure price is the issue when theyre the same cost as an old 95 gt when accounting for inflation for a WAY better car..

  • @tonysingh6570
    @tonysingh6570 9 днів тому

    What about procharger?

  • @chadbrown7648
    @chadbrown7648 10 днів тому

    I was gonna get a s650 but price is what stopped me ended up getting a maverick and still have a a 03 terminator

  • @jeremyloyd79
    @jeremyloyd79 11 днів тому +1

    I do know Gintani in California is working unlocking the ECU for a friend who does nothing but Mustangs

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому

      Really?

    • @jeremyloyd79
      @jeremyloyd79 11 днів тому

      @DerekBaranProductions yes he mentioned it on his channel last week or week before when he was tuning a Lambo

  • @triggersociety12
    @triggersociety12 11 днів тому +2

    U probably seen my last couple vids.. u know i agree 💯 price needs to have options to drop, and get them unlocked 🔓

    • @DerekBaranProductions
      @DerekBaranProductions  11 днів тому +1

      I actually only saw ears but im glad everyone is on the same oage

    • @triggersociety12
      @triggersociety12 11 днів тому

      @@DerekBaranProductions u coming to Mustang week in Texas?

  • @joaquinuriartejr628
    @joaquinuriartejr628 11 днів тому

    Hey Derek, what is the fitment for your vms drags? And where can I get them lol

  • @jacqaqq
    @jacqaqq 8 днів тому +1

    For all your reasons was my reasons for buying a 23GT. I specifically did not like the dash those two big tablets. Secondly, the price and being the first model year.
    I Agree just leave that dash alone and stop jacking with it

  • @SpeedyBlaxx
    @SpeedyBlaxx 11 днів тому

    I think its the economics and styling holding it back more than the tuning.

  • @KentPhillips
    @KentPhillips 10 днів тому

    It's definitely tuning. People keep saying it's price, but it's not. The 2015 mustang was 32k in 2015 which is 43k adjust for inflation same price as it is now. Being able to easily mod, upgrade, and tune, mustangs along with people seeming to like the fastback look better than the Camaro was a big reason it was popular. It's the reason BMWs are blowing up. They're easy to make on with a couple upgrades even though the cars themselves are more expensive

  • @Danny_Phantoms_S550
    @Danny_Phantoms_S550 10 днів тому

    Thank you bro I GREAT video. I just bought a 21 gen 3 10r80 love it

  • @diamondswordtw9009
    @diamondswordtw9009 10 днів тому

    At that price point, I’d rather get a used mach 1 since you don’t have the flexibility to do what you want tuning wise with the S650s