Lucid Air Grand Touring: Part BMW M5, Part iPhone 4
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2023
- MotoMan takes a second look at @LucidMotors as their Lucid Air lineup begins to take shape by driving the 819 HP Lucid Air Grand Touring. He kicks off this deep dive on an unusual collaboration between Silicon Valley & Detroit/Germany/Japan by presenting what makes the people and company behind the Lucid Air special. Then from different interactions with the Lucid Air from driving to charging, he presents a very honest state of the Lucid Motors world.
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As a Grand Touring owner, I greatly enjoy the vehicle. I have not had issues with the screen freezing, but before the 2.0 updates the Bluetooth pairing with my iPhone was admittedly unstable. It has greatly improved since and is only a matter of time before the software is as refined as the hardware.
Absolutely love the Lucid. Best looking EV on the market imo. The Sapphire especially is something else!
Absolut the Best EV car on the Planet . I seen it here in their Toronto Studio . It Looks Stunning ! 900 W Technology too ! Lucid is King but Why the Production Problems ? Why so slow Deliveries ? They Need more Cash from the Saudi Arabia to Survive really ???
I knew it was only a matter of time before Motoman would receive a press car with an interior color spec'd to his liking. Bravo! 👏👏
I got mine in what they call Zenith Red, a great color that changes with the light. Yes, everywhere I go it gets lots of attention. For me, the Bluetooth has been flawless, but every new car from a new company will have some growing pains I suppose. *EDIT* I got Apple CarPlay in an OTA update last night! Did the update from my phone, walked out to the car, and CarPlay loaded right up.
Lol it's not a neck breaker. Here in Southern California, they are everywhere
@@ju4121 I'm glad to hear that. The more of these that get seen the easier it will be for Lucid to sell them. The hardest part of marketing anything is establishing brand awareness. Being seen is what the Air sedans are really for. It's the SUV version that they will be producing in volume.
@@ju4121 In the midwest, Tesla Model S are still not all that common. Xs are very rare.
Congrats . Lucid Air looks Stunning ! 900 W Technology too . Lucid is king !
Saw one in Zenith Red in my town, awesome
Niche company at this point. Very low odds they are around in 5 years.
@@stevenstrain283 Very aware of who that is. I will stick with my prediction.
I got to test drive the Grand Touring. It was so nice! The ride and handling felt really good. My only real complaints were the old BMW style tune signals (where they don’t stay in place after you press them which I found very annoying) and the lack of smoothness in the regenerative braking. I like how strong the regenerative braking but I think it should have a smoother initial slowdown. But, I’m sure it’s something you can get used to. It is missing a lot of the novelties from the new i7 and the S-class so I can’t help but think that this car is the ultimate E-class or 5-series.
Im Baying one in two weeks ! Cany wait !🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Lucid Air was the Motor Trend car of the year 2022! That's quite an achievement IMO.
Wow Lucid Air Grand Touring looks amazing
“I own stock in Lucid”😂😂
Longterm its gonna be fun…we gonna make some money…
You omitted my version of the Air, the GT- Performance with 1050 HP advertised, 1111 HP per the window sticker. Amazing car, lots of fun to drive, easy to live with.
Here we are in 2024 and a fully baked, very well optioned 2024 Air Touring is under $100K. I can't wait to buy mine next year.
Something about that trunk opening reminds me a bit of my mom's old "Humpback" Cadillac Seville from way back when!
#BUSTLEBACK 1980's FO' LIFE...!!! (a good thing btw)
I love the shape of this car.
Looks like he’s orchestrating a band with all those hand gestures 😆😆✌🏻
Hmm,what to say ...
I love my handles on the doors of my car.
... and my 8 cylinders N/A engine and sound of this engine and my buttons,oooo those beautifully simple buttons everywhere,ooo I love that all !
Such a beautiful car IMO. Reminds me of what a modern Mercury Sable would look today if it followed the design language of its original 1985 model, which was a stunning design for its time.
So true. 👍
That or Buick
Great review of an interesting car! Have seen several on the road in S. FL and they really stand out in traffic with their beautiful design. Unlike big Teslas, the Lucid Air has an interior befitting a luxury vehicle. Oh, and all of the Air sedans I've seen had very good panel fits and exterior finish - no small thing for six figure asking prices. This is an amazing vehicle - and is even more amazing when you consider it is the first effort from these folks.
Such a lovely interior, got a bit of a Scandinavian vibe going on. I'm not too sure about the bears though.
Excellent work, M.
I can’t wait to buy a Lucid. Waiting for a Lucid small SUV.
Love Lucid
Fair wish list that I can echo wholeheartedly. Yes, it’s undeniably the most efficient EV on the planet and has a fantastic future that can only be delivered and fulfilled by the completion of the Ui package. Glad to see everything else executed to such a high level that awaits a UI that matches in quality, speed and performance delivery. 20:32
Lucid schooled Mercedes-Benz from the get go.
Can't believe those EQ cars are real.
EPIC CAR. I LOVE IT.
Nice looking car, saw one few months ago in Tahoe. Still I’d take the Tesla plaid because it’s cheaper and pretty much a better charging network.
$154k way too expensive.
GREATTTTT CAR GREAAAAAAT DESIGN VERY FAST - FUTURE IS HERE
200K is still worth it.. and nice driving along the coast.. i recognize the area
Lucid makes even Tesla look silly on packaging. Such a huge frunk in a slick sedan.
I just want a wagon Lucid.
I want a lucid 🤩
I bet anybody dollars to doughnuts that that large info screen is the exact same one that is in the Cadillac Escalade.
Who remembers GM’s 90s Saturns or Oldsmobiles Aurora luxury sedan? Well, the design aesthetics of this car reminds me of a more modern, expensive version of the two. I saw one the other day in person. My opinion about the look of this car hasn’t changed.
Physical toggles and switches for hvac, stereo and most used functions, PLEASE!
George, any reason your pricing section is no longer done in the hanger but just on the same road?? Curious. LOL
My boy has IPhone 4 in the title lol
Sapphire is not $250k! It is $249k :)
this car is like a beautiful piece of mid century furniture. i hope this company survives. cant wait to see act 2.
This will be my dream sedan to buy it bro.
Cadillac needs to make a four-door version of the ELR, all-electric of course. The ELR design language is 100-percent homerun.
I think it's great looking. But I can only imagine when a rock chips and cracks that 'windshield that goes to the B-pillars" is gonna cost. Your insurer is gonna love you for it.
At this price point, it doesn’t exactly appeal to the masses. Which is fine and all to an extent; however, had they released an SUV first, think about the potential price point on that compared to the Air - sounds insanely expensive to me. Even less market appeal/access, and subsequently fewer sales and less market exposure. Low sales can be tough on a start-up (aka those folks buying up all that stock 😉). Great review as always, MotoMan!
@@vickykennel7414 do you think lucid will survive still ин 2025??
thank you for saying that it needs "real" door handles! That's one of the horrendously bad things that Tesla started that so many other BEV makers are trying to copy. Tesla is not a good company to emulate in terms of design -- for anything (including glass roofs, door handles, iPads-glued-to-dashboards, removal of physical buttons/dials for climate and audio, etc.)
The Lucid Air looks futuristic without trying too hard to look futuristic.
Great review. I did cross shop the Lucid when I purchase my Tesla Model S LR. Unfortunately, in the Midwest not a lot of opportunity to drive or get service.
I do like the interior and the range of the Lucid, but the exterior design gives me Mercury Sable vibes.
Blown away the charging tech actually worked away from home. If any EV is going to compete with Tesla, they need to get their charging game going.
So many road trips where I would pass faulty chargers either on the road or at hotels. Never have had a bad experience charging the Tesla.
Would like to see Tesla include some of the Lucid interior style touches.
In the end Tesla won for me (even with its faults) Due its price (full price Plaid half the price of the Lucid Saphire), Availity to charging network, and relative closeness to Tesla service center.
Tesla charging is now open to CCS cars. Will be fully implemented soon
That windshield will be so bad to replace if you get a rock crack
It Worked!
Love the car but hate the back it needs a redesign
Lovely interior. 400 - 500 mile range is definitely knocking on the door of real World practicality. Absolutely agree with the recommendation to reduce complexity - it’s off putting to me. But I guess to attract a wealthy So-Cal couple with 6 figures to blow on a virtue statement, it has to be festooned with shiny baubles.
Great review George! Absolutely agree with the candid last words and wish list! At this price point, everything MUST WORK. A Nissan Leaf is more sorted out than this thing and Lucid should be embarrassed by this. The last thing, there may be a less expensive Lucid, but we'll never see an inexpensive one. No start up EV company based in California is smart enough to make an inexpensive EV. This is the part of comment where Lucid ducks for cover behind the US Government to protect themselves from the Asians who do all this cheaper.
What do you mean a Leaf is more sorted out? At least charging works with this car.
@@Jeroenneman The Leaf has an infotainment system that covers all the core basics and actually works.
What are you talking about ?The Nissan leaf is almost 70 Thousand with few options and ugly as a Cheslie Clinton ! Lucid is 900W Technology . It is faster and fester charging and looks Stunning too ! Miles ahead of the Competition !! Wake up ! need to read more !
@@ivanronin8209 Calm down man, all I wanted to point out is that if you're going to spend $121-$200k CAD, everything should work right out of the gate. Cheaper EVs have done so. That's what George's point is at the end of the video too. Jeez. 🙄
I have 9000 miles in my Grand Touring. It is a BRILLIANT car, but as you mention, let down severely by its UX. Every drive its something, and normally something different. Not horrible, but annoying. Like I say, I love the car, won't sell it for a long time, but come on LUCID, fix the software.
It is a stunning vehicle... for the wealthy 1%ers.
I own stocks. I can say I am the part owner of Lucid Motors Inc.
So, this is the current state of the art as far as EV vehicles go? I WISHED I could afford that!
I almost bought one but Saudi ownership was a deal killer for me. Shame as it is a brilliant car. Nice that they offer a standard metal roof now. I wonder if insurance companies are pricing in replacing the whole roof when you get a stone crack on the windshield.
Good thing is that Saudis money is in…endless funds…best choice from Lucid….
@@Hmmm313 Porsche sold 3X and Rivian 8X. I have to believe the Saudi connection is a factor as the cars are not that far apart even with different missions. I think a focus on a 80K mid size SUV with these capabilities would have them at scale much faster. Rivian's focus on this price range paid off.
You make good, quality content. I subscribed after seeing a collaboration with TFL. Since then, I have given you a solid "bell", and I have downbelled TFL.
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7:25 OMG could you imagine taking some stone hits to that glass requiring a replacement? 😳 New WRX got 3 in the first 2 weeks of ownership and i paid some BS for a glass stone shield... DONT BOTHER! Apparently it did NOT work as advertised by the dealer (big surprise i know). But that makes me think of this. And i cant.😣
Yep, there’s a reason insurance premiums are going up for everyone. A modern LED headlight can cost over $2000. Crazy.
I would get this on looks alone. Looks better than a Tesla.... can't afford one but bought the stocks instead lol
Does the RWD Pure get more frunk space?
Great review. Love the suggestion to generally keep it simple and make bespoke window controls, for example, to drive home the “luxury” credentials of this Lucid.
Also, Lucid’s apparent success in smoothing out the handshake with E.A. charging might be a game changer for all non-Tesla owners.
Good review. It's one thing for companies like MS, Apple, etc., to push beta testing out to consumers. As bad as that is, it's another thing entirely to do so with products like this. And yet, so many people fall for it because they want to be the first on their block to own the latest toy. One rule to live by...never by the first year/generation of a tech product.
If they make a few adjustments and fix a couple of issues they have a chance to Dominate this market! Way better looking inside and out than Tesla and Mercedes with Stunning performance to match! I love your perspective on little things which in the end make or break companies!!!
What issues?
@@u2b608 Nothing major, more color choices and dealers to service are the two needed most!!
Just give little time !!! Be Petition . They need more cash form the Saudis' to Make it right ???
I think the biggest problem for me with this car is that the Taycan exists.
Exactly! 😁👍
Love your videos. I’m sorry, but couldn’t I buy a nice two year old certified 5 series and a used GT4 for this same price? It would be close. I could at least get a Cayman GTS 4.0 and a nice certified 2020 5 series. I’m sure the inside of the Lucid is plush, but I’d take semi-plush with buttons, usability and an infotainment system that responds over none of those things and plushness. I sure hope we are not all forced to drive something like that some day. I will really miss cars.
Probably could find a used GT4 for less than this but your point is valid about the used market.
it has level 2 adas.
it doesn't have level 3, which would allow hands off.
is that what you meant?
If Lucid could address the problems with software, especially navigation, electronics, inputs etc... come out with a SUV... and bring the price down to around $70,000, I would buy a Lucid in a heartbeat. But in the current state of the Lucid, with all the user complaints doucumented on the message boards and youtube, and the high price, there's no way I could buy a Lucid today. But I do think it's an excellent looking car
I completely agree with you… I think that’s why lucid is having so much problem with lack of demand.
If got bunch of bear logos if I drive this in West Hollywood bunch of bearded dudes will think it’s special Uber
Motoman .... In addition to your comments about complexity i also noticed a few issues in paint quality and panel alignment in the few Lucid's i have seen, lets hope they will be ironed out soon, and not continue for years like in some Tesla Models, even after 10 years they still suffering some QC issues.
As with regard to the UX, i really don't know what to say, the whole industry is gone crazy with screen and touch sensitive surfaces which are utterly dangerous, being an insider, i understand why they do it (i can explain to you privately) but i cannot agree with it at all, it is so dangerous !! So i thought Lucid being a new company would be going in a different direction but sadly they are not.
All those UX's will age very badly, i tried to use one of my old iPhone 6 the other day and i just couldn't use for more than a few minutes. Now imagine an unusable car in 10 years time !!!
Overall they Lucid's are good cars, but are they special enough for 100k to 250k USD price ? i don't think so !!!
just think of the other cars you can buy for this price !
How the hell do modern cars get past safety checks when everything you used to control using muscle memory and your hand is now hidden 5 menus deep in a screen demanding you take your eye off the road - an accident waiting to happen.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID🙋♂️❤🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉😁🍀🍀🤞😉👍 FAMILY ADDING ON AND HOLDING STRONG HOLD THE LINE EVERYONE STAY FOCUSED AND DISCIPLINE HARD WORK DEDICATION.
SUV coming next
I believe you can now get apple play.
Why IPhone 4 in particular motoman?
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Only 6 kWh less, what's the point?
I'm worried the "efficiency" war is going to kill one pedal driving. As someone who loathes the feeling of driving automatic transmissions in gas cars, good one pedal driving (see: Chevrolet Bolt) is a must for me in any EV, so that it doesn't feel like an automatic. Any EV which drives itself forward when you take your foot off the brake (fake transmission creep) is instantly unacceptable in my book.
Is it $10,000 to replace that windshield?
I would be so paranoid about chips.
Why is no one buying these cars? Lucid is making barely any cars and still making more than they can sell.
What's the point of making a beautiful car that no one can buy?
I just can't get over how huge the panel gaps are on this car! Unacceptable for this price point.
This-is-the all new reincarnated 1990 toyota Celica. 😅
164K ???!!! And does not even have apple car play and non working Bluetooth???? That’s crap
You asked the wrong question (3:45): it's not "why didn't they make an SUV?", but rather "why didn't they make a hatchback?" One of the worst problems about regular sedans that makes them unappealing to most buyers is the standard trunk, which is very impractical for most people. Also, I'd like to see that frunk space used to hold a full-size spare wheel/tire -- the whole point of having long-range batteries being long road trips where you might be really stuck with a flat tire if no spare. For a Nissan Leaf, which you'd ostensibly only drive close to home, you would never need a spare wheel/tire, but in the Lucid, it should be at least an option (if not standard).
@@vickykennel7414 sure, but you miss the point: the reason for a long-range battery and low coefficient of drag (< 0.2) is to drive long distances...
I spoke to one of the designers a few years ago about that when they were showing the prototype in Carmel-by-the-sea at Car Week. He said that hatch backs are more noisy, and they wanted this car to be more luxurious. He also told me it would be much better than Tesla and much cheaper. haha
I personally don’t need my cars to be smart phones
They keep making $100k EVs
Excellent review. I’ve considered getting one, but not until they fix those issues. I’m not spending $150,000 and finding I don’t have Apple car play.
Once up-on a time, Padmé was on a Formular 1 circit, but unfortunatly, she becaum a vicktum of Mad Max. She tryd to escaip on Ruot 666 in a 2000 hp Supra, bekaws she herd it was the fastist car arownd. The earf was gettting hottrr and hottrr, and she new she had to leave befor it was too late.
As she was driving, she met a 95-year-old Telsa invister who was ridiing in a self-drayving car. He was verry ritch and offored to mary her so she could inherit his fortune when he dies. Padmé thoht it was a good idea and agried to marry him.
But even tho she was maryed to a ritch man, she stil had feelins for a Chad who was moor interested in his poster of a Lucid Air than her. She was disapointed that he wouldn't commit to her and wanted to be with the poster instead.
In the end, Padmé was happy with her ritch husband and they livd happily evr after.
Too bad they can’t sell many of them. There’s not much of a market for luxury EV sedans.
Tesla is rolling out the magic box so non Tesla cars can now charge. Already available at select Superchargers in NY...
Nice car, I don’t care for it. My Plaid is miles ahead of everything except that Limo feel (leather, fancy stuff not related to my driving experience). Big 17” screen, rear hatchback is so nice, easy to use controls, stereo is amazing, clean interior, air ride suspension that I can choose my ride, traction control options ( automaticaly raises when needed with memory), Software is so nice, (free updates. Too much nice stuff to list. Now the negative: fit isn’t perfect (close enough for me). Back seat isn’t limo size like 750 BMW. (I don’t sit back there, so I don’t want it. Also blind spot right front for parking near curbs. Car is dated, but that is why I love it. American cars failed because they never figured out Elon’s success formula. Tesla Superchargers so nice! (I watch Netflix while charging , but charging is too fast and can’t finish my movie. Oh and no car is faster, so much fun, my grand kids love it!
Stereotypically 'start-up'; lots of good innovation and choice, mixed with some basic shortfalls. Not currently available In Oz. Probably overpriced given its shortfalls. But desrving of constructive criticism, not trolling.
Certainly looks "the cost"
This car.. Who is gonna buy it..?? At that price point.?? How many did they produce?? Are they profitable?? Lucid is gonna have a hard time making any profit with this car.
Please let me know when the tech is fixed!!!!
160k to get an electric vehicle that finally gets 500 miles(maybe)on a charge? No thanks.I'll stay with the 120 plus years combustion vehicles and all their established ancillaries.
Great car, but for rich people only
the ground clearance of this car not good for new york at all,
i have seen it in front of me driving and i was like this is not good ground clearance at all,
as a matter of fact most of these ev's do not have good ground clearance especially when u know the skateboard style battery pack is sitting right at the bottom dead centre!!!!
one more thing i really don't like is the dry weight of these ev's is just insane compare to their gasoline powered sized cars.
not good.
Might be the only good looking ev
Waaaayyy too "California" for me. I prefer my 800+ hp sedan in AMG GT63S form.
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If I was in the market for an electric vehicle, I would purchase a Tesla because of the charging network. I am 56 years old, so I will not purchase an electric vehicle before I pass away.
The Lucid is what Tesla wishes it could be. From the standpoint of build quality and fit and finish. Sure, Lucid will have to tweak some shortcomings after the first few models years, but it’s so much better looking than the bland Tesla. Not to mention the interior of the Tesla makes you want to be Stevie Wonder 😎