CRAIGMILLAR - Down But Not Out - 1984
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2018
- CRAIGMILLAR - Down But Not Out
This is a documentary first aired on STV around about 1984 as a Scotland Today Report.
Focusing on the social problems in the Craigmillar area, this film features interviews with local activists and residents including Helen Crummy, David Brown, Mickey MacPherson and Richard D’arcy and the Gormley family.
Thanks to Reg and Muriel Wilkinson for donating this film for upload which will soon be available on the Craigmillar Gold UA-cam channel and also thanks to Johnni Stanton and Hilary Morrison from the Craigmillar Archives.
Uploaded by Billy McKirdy
I was 16 in 1984 cutting about Edinburgh. Never went near this scheme but I knew characters just like those lads in Broomhouse and Wester Hailes. Started work as a factory labourer that year. Managed to get into university seven years later and have done okay since. There's always a way out if you work at it and have a wee bit savvy.
I lived in wauchope place till 1966 I loved craigmillar we left when I was 11yrs old through no choice of our own but had some great friends and great memories 👍
A FRIEND OF MINE LIVED IN WAUOPE TERRACE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE LOVED IT AS WELL.
My Dad was brought up here and my Gran and Grandad lived in Newcraighall, it was a pretty scary place but to be fair I never actually had any bother as in spite of appearances there were a lot of decent folk living there
We lived in newcraighall for yrs in the 80's brought up in niddrie & moved back to niddrie b4 I left in 96
Tbf criagmiller and niddrie has tryed its best to make a effort in its area and made Huge changes and yes there is a few that still make the area bad but we are not the only place with issues
Helen Crummy, was an exceptional individual.
Steve Burgess, met him for the first time in 1966.
Started as a welfare officer for the Edinburgh children's welfare (as it was once called) department.
David Brown, he was a cool, likable individual.
Gavin Strang...He spoke up for the production of "I Claudius" at one of his public meetings. Believed in what he was doing for Craigmillar.
Need more of his calibre today.
Today? In one way or another, the Edinburgh council is corrupt.
Funny you should say that about Gavin Strang, I was just thinking bring him back!
I can remember before Kinnaird Park was built and the 14 bus went down to terminus at Newcraighall before the bridge. The drinkers used to come out of the miners club and thought it okay to board the bus without paying a penny. Seats were thrown out the top deck emergency exit as a source of entertainment. Good luck to any of the drivers who were on the 2317, 2337 or 2357 departures as it wasn't a pleasant experience and they had no protection.
These were awful times. So many lovely people struggling against all the odds. And so many fine people doing all they could to alleviate the pain of it all
That's true ❤
Lot of people had the same problems every where in the country.. Growing up in the 80s & the 70s were hard time's.. I know because I was one of them..
A wonderful trip back in time.
"We the city council......" at 13:00 He certainly dosen't have to live without. What people were not listening to was that the lack of employment was and still is a huge issue for many areas not just Craigmillar. When people have no self worth due to circumstances outwith their control it is not easy to live.
We make some of America’s ghettos look like paradise
I was wondering about that. Thank you for mentioning that. I am American and know that we have learned not.
I lived in niddrimill for 3yrs ,I wouldn't have left but room tax came in . I left but I still go down and I feel at home . The people who live there are wonderful friendly there's a community spirit neighbours still look out for each other . But on a down note locals are getting squeezed out and THAT is wrong
Lmao not even close
Are you having a f@#&ing laugh, the place is no where near American Ghettos. What an idiotic comment 🤦♀️🤦♀️🍆
Bring back memories they old buildings
I grew up in niddrie/Craigmillar back then & I loved it.Davy brown,my auld man put him on his arse in newcraighall miners club in the late 80's lol..YNT
is the sound working on this video for others? the sound isnt playing and i have opened up another browser tab and played another videop with sound working perfectly.
God bless Evo-Stick the old guy in our town that had the hardware shop had pallets of the stuff through the back and as he took your cash would say I hope your not sniffing that boys lol
ls there a copy of 'Growing Up in Craigmillar'? Would love to see it, l mind all them laddies from back then, l was 14/15 but was in residential school, the guy with the tash was always more mature than his pals were. x :)
CRAIGMILLAR HAS HAD SERIOUS SOCIAL PROBLEMS SINCE TIME BEGAN, AND STILL HAS THEM TODAY.
Can’t tell if Edinburgh has gotten better or worse
Basically stayed the same
The place was rough, it still is as some guy was murdered there as recently as last Thursday but these people are a product of their environment! As for the councillors back then they were as thick as shit and very ignorant as are todays with regard the green agenda and spaces for people lie under the guise of covid! Worked with a couple of folk from niddrie in the past and have to say they were as normal as the next person but wanted out of the place. Kind regards to you all. 👍😎
I loved The Cunningham twins...even married one.
I had a girlfriend in Craigmiller circa 1974 Me being from Morningside lol. Used to shit myself going to visit her with mobs of YGT and Niddrie Terror running about. And the Occasional Inche Cumbie mob visiting, was a warzone
It amuses me how Francis falconer and her husband lived in the craigmiller council house,a spit from fc.smaller houses when you go to primary school and the taller ones when going to liberton high school,they moved to Falkirk,where did they get the money?they had two boys,don't know what happened to the oldest Alan,but the youngest Eric went into the rollers.not getting all that was old,but parents leaving Eric at 15,took awhile until her sister Helen to take him in,by then he lived in a trailer and going through garbage to eat,their kids would be in a home,and they would be fined or jailed.
Nothing has changed
Worked there repairing the wee fences outsides their houses for months
The bad auld good day's!
Who is the gay Bond villan? What a trip!
I remenber all the AIDS cases .. it was very sad state of affiairs... thank the lord I was a child and never interaxcted with drug use like that .. but many youngsters parents were all dying..
I was working as a shopfitter and was working on a refit of a pharmacy here in the 2000s when I was stopped outside by a wee tinky woman in her 40s who asked what we were doing. I told her we were opening a new pharmacy and she got immediately uppity and said to me "Whit? Well we'll burn this fukin place to the groond agen if tbey dinnae gie us mair methudone." There were some right tickets hanging round there and come methadone day, the queue stretched around the inside of the shop. Still a shitehole of a place.
This problem was really bad during covid, they really do trash their own lives, if only they could see things from the outside. Its sad that it is all over the UK, perhaps more so but not limited to poorer neighbourhoods.
God everyone was well spoken in the 80s here lol
If the old man's garden was green and white it would be wrecked. Definitely a blue nose area.
And how is it today? Watching this breaks my heart that councils didn't do enough but quick to be corrupt. It sickens me that a MP is on the council and doesn't do a damn thing in Parliament to make it's city or state better.
Mostly knocked down!
It's mostly all gone. All new houses to look more modern, with all the same problems today as we had back then. Its not just in Niddrie its in almost every housing estate in Scotland!
Although it's quire nostalgic to watch this, I grew up in the 80's just outside Edinburgh and it was no better where I lived only more concentrated in Craigmillar.
The posh man could have done more then
Nothing changes, the Queen obviously needs more money so of course scotland will suffer.
Thats were ma family are fa and still stay in Niddrie well a was born and Breed in Bingham a moved out in 93 wish a could move back a stay in Muirhouse now but ive heard ma old sunny Bingham is worse then Muirhouse now Bingham was the best place to be brought up?
dont you think Gene Hunt didnt do enough to fix the blue peter garden
Good see it did get houses 50 year later but niddrie people are sound
Ande
1984 there was loads of police to arrest miners
And let me get this straight the council and goverment back then complained the area was awful and whatever else but yet also moaned how doing community projects cost to much god wow if ur not helping a area dinne have the cheek to complain about it wow
Exactly 😂 it’s like the deaf leading the blind!! Sad thing is our government hasn’t really changed its mentality, there are probably even more rundown areas in the uk now than there were back then 🙄
My grandad was the cole man it got a lot worse in the late 80’s
Stuart Dignan R.I.P MA AULD PAL YNT AND JUNIOR DARCY
I lived 2 miles up the road at Newton Village in 1984.. my whole family worked and to say no jobs is just not true.. we didnt sniff glue.. or break into neighbours homes. It's just a lie to say there is no hope.
A scheme of zombies 😂
Scottish social housing is so ugly and depressing......
Was this a serious documentary ? - It almost swings over into parody.
English guy on first inpection looks posh and dodgy
As you hear him speak... He sounds spot on
Aye - Posh and dodgy 😂😂😂
They think its bad then only if they coule see scotland now
I’m not sure what area of Scotland you’re from but I would disagree based on the area I’m from. In terms of MPs/government - absolutely! Thatcher might be gone but they’re all still a bunch of greedy pricks 🙄
@@leighirvine everyone is so down though drugs and alcohol are the only way out
@@ohandanotheronebitesthedus6247 highest alcohol and drug abuse in Europe I think so sad ....
@@azillliasmith2734 yep if lost 3 family members just recently to drugs
It’s called cholesterol, Scottish people eat it