Talib Kweli & Madlib Talk 'Black Star II,' Gibbs, Dilla, Doom, & Fav Producers | People's Party Full
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with legendary DJ, producer, multi-instrumentalist, and rapper:
The Bad Kid, The Beat Konducta, The Loop Digga, Quasimoto...
MADLIB
We were privileged enough to get a rare interview with one of the most elusive legends in hip-hop. Here's what we discussed:
• Using music to steer clear of gang-life in his hometown of Oxnard, CA.
• His family's deep roots in Jazz music.
• Brother rapper/producer Oh No and Madlib's first group Lootpack.
• Being influenced by the works of Melvin Van Peebles.
• Working under his alias of Quasimoto.
• His mystical musical connection with J Dilla and his love of MF Doom.
• Talib and Madlib working together on 'Liberation'.
• Getting to remix his favorite Blue Note Records' tracks for 'Shades Of Blue'.
• Making 'Auditorium' with Mos Def and 'The Healer' with Erykah Badu.
• Producing the entire 'Black Star II' album.
• Working with Freddie Gibbs on 'Piñata' and 'Bandana'.
• Madlib's friendship with Mac Miller.
• Why a producer's equipment isn't important and the power of an iPad.
• The eclectic vision of his project 'Sound Ancestors'.
• DJs having the easy path to becoming great producers.
• Madlib gives us his top 5 producers.
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Madlib is a goat. He bought one of my sample packs and that’s one of the highlights of my life fr.
awesome! Congrats!
thats cool which pack?
@@duncan5318 it’s an old kit from a couple years ago I did called Liberty City Stories. All my sample packs r basically the same tho. Bunch of loops I find from different songs and records
@@bluffgawd lemme get that
@Nayr Adejo cuz my websites keeps customer data like any other website
I don't think people realize how big this interview is, Madlib and MF DOOM(RIP) are like two of the most elusive people in hip hop to get for interviews so we gotta appreciate this moment foreal
Only reason I clicked
Truth!
Facts
STRAIGHT UP!!!!!!!!! I came in the comments to type the same thang until I saw your reply. Madlib is straight up a HipHop Shinobi Sage always in the shadows controlling the river-current from a distance. To get him inna 60-minute interview is like catchin Lightning inna bottle! Peace to da God, Madlib & Peace to da God, Kwa for makin it happen! This is HipHop Gold right here.....
Truly.
I feel for Madlib because he lost two really great friends and extremely huge figures in hip hop. To work with Dilla and DOOM and lose them both has to be heartbreaking. Much love and peace to him. ♥️
I wish I could work with an artist like Dilla-would literally complete like, every weakness I have, musically lol. Madlib was blessed. So were Dilla and DOOM RIP
That's so true :(💔🙏❤️
Shouts to Kweli, Jasmine and of course to the beat konducta
thanks for the love!
The amount of music Madlib has probably listened to and made is crazy to think about
I think about that all the time
it really shows how truly dedicated he is to his craft and i respect that so much
I wish Madlib would put some pressure on Quasimoto to get him back in the studio.
lol
He’s still pissed Lord Quas ran away with his girl
@@jordantruxton caught her rubbin’ his feet smh
solid commenting right here!
@@uproxx im still out here tryna figure out if Madlib and Talib did an album, would they call it Madlib or Talib?
TIME STAMPS:
3:27 -- Madlib speaks of growing up in Oxnard, California and immersing himself in music throughout his younger years as a way to avoid the gang afflicted streets surrounding him. He also talks about his family's deep roots in Jazz music giving him the chance to dabble in a variety of instruments and tells what the first record he sampled was when he was only 11 years of age.
7:00 -- Madlib gets into his relationship with his brother rapper/producer Oh No, his start with the group Lootpack and his dad helping him get out his first 12" single independently. They also discuss Lootpack's stand-out track 'Whenimondamic' amongst the 300 other songs they made together as well as what Madlib remembers about first meeting Peanut Butter Wolf.
13:07 -- Madlib is asked about how the works of Melvin Van Peebles influenced him over the course of his career, especially when it comes to his Quasimoto projects. Madlib speaks on how he approached working under his alias Quasimoto, taking mushrooms throughout the production. He also talks about taking a couple years away from hip hop to focus more on Jazz and R&B and they discuss public enemy as well as police brutality.
20:46 -- Madlib reflects on hearing MF Doom for the first time and knowing that he had to find a way to collaborate with him. They also discuss the time Talib and Kanye West met up with Madlib and MF Doom at a studio, Madlib's persona of mystique while avoiding social media, his mystical musical connection with J Dilla and he's asked why he thinks MF Doom was so underappreciated.
27:41 -- Madlib and Talib discuss their partnering up on the 2007 album 'Liberation' and how that aided each other's careers. They also discuss Madlib's album 'Shades Of Blue' where he was given full access to the Blue Note Records catalog for remixing his favorite jazz tracks and Jasmin talks about how she always wanted to be in a jazz band.
32:01 -- Madlib is asked about the making of 'Auditorium' with Mos Def and Slick Rick as well as working on Erykah Badu's 2007 EP 'The Healer'. He also explains what he means when he calls himself a musical schizophrenic, they discuss drums being Madlib's favorite instrument as well as him producing the entire 'Black Star II' album, still yet to be released.
37:53 -- Madlib tells the story of how he and Freddie Gibbs came together to collaborate on their 2014 album 'Piñata' as well as 'Bandana' in 2019 and points to the different approaches with each effort. Madlib also talks about his intentions behind the Medicine Show series compilations as well as his friendship with Mac Miller and how much of a natural musician he was.
42:57 -- Talib brings up his theory on why Kanye bought so many of Madlib's beats without using them, Jasmin goes on to ask Madlib how he's been able to stay so true to his vision over the years and Madlib talks about the equipment not being the important thing, stating 'it's about not making excuses.' They also discuss how powerful an iPad can be in the right hands.
46:48 -- Madlib speaks on the making of his latest album 'Sound Ancestors' and talks about how the eclectic vision of that release came together. They also discuss what Madlib has been doing during the pandemic, he shares why he feels great DJs are able to progress so seamlessly to becoming great beat makers and he gives us his top 3 producers.
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Thank you
Thanks!... Respect!...
Thanks.
U are fire bro! That is the spirit. You are hiphop. Thanks
I love how genuine Madlib is. He talks like a real dude and doesn't give all those lofty answers.
You really have to cherish every moment you get from this man. There will NEVER be another like him. Certified goat
Not hard to argue against. For real.
I just had to comment to STRONGLY agree with you.
🎯💯
A lovely lad too. I literally bumped into him in Shoreditch, London a few years ago. Spoke to him for a minute and he was very polite and cool (especially as he seemed to have just stepped off the plane). Really nice bloke.
Could your comment be any more British
@@pepbeats7673 cheerio
m8
"when dilla died...you know I lost something"
...my heart shattering"
Shout out to senior Otis, a true og raising his family on music while the world was fighting outside. Goosebumps.
Madlib has definitely earned his spot as a legend. I've been a fan since the Lootpack / Alkaholiks days. I remember seeing Lootpack at Nuyorican Poet's Cafe in NYC back in 'late 98 or early '99. I got the whole show on video. It was their first New York show. In 20 plus years I've never seen anyone else with that same footage. Classic shit!
Please upload that shit dude 🙏
Ye, that shit should be in the public domain man…don’t be hoarding it :) care2share bro
Yooo DOOM, Kanye, and Madlib in the same stu? That's crazy
Bet Ye got real humble in that room, especially if Dilla was around too? Man
@@gotjuice9 nah they said it happened around 08 09 so dilla wouldn't have been
One of the best.
RIP DILLA & RIP DOOM.
Rip Lord Quas
@@yaady2366 Quas still alive. He don’t live by human law, he just retired.
Madlib is a genius. as a fan of Modern Jazz Quartet (Art Blakey etc.) I'll always appreciate his work on Yesterdays New Quintet. Shades of Blue was dope too imo.
Classics
Art Blakey isn't on MJQ tho but yeah YNQ is dope!
@@KULMAbeats my bad I meant milt Jackson (their version of Django was on the first jazz album I bought)
His superstition cover 🔥
@@forevershampoo I'm a big Stevie fan so I'm hard on any covers or variations and he killed that ( I also love the chili peppers version of higher ground)
NO MORE PARTIES IN LA IS A MADLIB BEAT????!!!!!! no wonder. this was a great interview, blessed to live in a time to appreciate this
Hearing *MADLIB* say the phrase " *....get lost in the sauce.* " , made my freak'n damn day 😂🤞....
Quasimoto the unseen is one of the most slept on album of all time!! Shades of blue is another slept on all time album!! Madlib is a legend and deserves more love than he gets!! I still listen to something madlib made weekly!! Thank Talib for this one 👊
S A L U T E
whats that Jazz group he was in too? I remember having their album years ago and it turned out all the artists on the album were just different aliases for Madlib so I think he played like a bunch of the instruments himself lol Pretty dope.
@@0oidiedinatimemachineo024 Yesterday’s New Quintet
@@0oidiedinatimemachineo024 yesterdays new quintet
Shades of Blue album was the first Madlib album that I purchased. I'm looking forward to the second Shades of Blue album.
Madvillainy is probably one of the best albums in Hip Hop period. No mumbly schmumbly raps just raw lyrics and creativity!
the album is called Madvillainy.....
PREACH!! It's one of those albums you always find new lyrics you missed every time you hear it.
@@Glol91ABC I think it's not that deep bro. We know.
@@mrsoshadabaadman I'm not your bro
@@Glol91ABC Lonely at the top hey. Ayt do you sir.
madlib basically said blackstar 2 would've been out by now but he makes so much music that he forgets what he used LMAOOOOO. i feel it.
There are a lot of samples to clear!
Ahhh smh samples that is an issue unless You release it for free. And then there’s other sample issues. Thanks for clarification.
@@uproxx i def understand and am patiently waiting thru the process and hoping it sees the light of day!!
I want that Black Star 2 so bad man
Just do kickstarter for that album, get your cut and release that album for contributors and dont give a F about sample clearance. No need for making that research.
“Kweli” - means true as in truth in the language of Kiswahili (Spoken in East and Central Africa)
You speak the truth my brother, shout out from Kenya and Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪 🇰🇪
The beat god himself
It’s a shame they didn’t speak on the Alkaholiks since Madlib got his start in the game with them
For sure, that's what made me check for them. Turn the Party out and WLIX are still in my rotation.I wanted them to do an EP back in the day.
I was thinking the same thing when the interview ended they skipped right over Tha Liks... Loot Pack was on Tha Liks first 3 albums before the Loot Pack album even dropped.... You cant mention Loot Pack/Madlib without mentioning Tha Liks/ Likwit Crew... that goes for Xzibit also
Wasn’t he in high school when he went on tour with them?
That’s what I was waiting for!
Word up!!!
I love how calm and chill Madlib is. Breath of fresh air
Brother Kweli, Sister Leigh, I give thanks. Peace to Madlib!
Salute!
Great guest and a great show. Alchemist appearance would be great !
Yup. We need an Alchemist interview
I've been waiting for this since I peeped the first snippet. I knew this was going to be short as Madlib doesn't do too many interviews, but you best believe I'm about to soak in all 56 minutes of this. ALL OF IT. Thank you UPROXX. Thank you, Talib. Cannot wait for Black Star II!!
tell us what you think!
@@uproxx Felt so natural and informative; like a conversation between two friends. It was kind of a given that this would happen, but its always a breath of fresh air to just get an interview that isn't just formulaic. The energy that him and DOOM had and him and Dilla had was magical and was happy to be able to witness it sonically in my lifetime. DOOM was a huge influence to my performances mad years ago. The gems that Madlib gave were like memoir pages.
I've been listening to Madlib for over 20 years, he and many other talented producers really helped me get through life. Thank you so much
I been on Madlib since 93
@@frankturcios6075 that's awesome!
The Strong Arm Steady- In Search Of Stoney Jackson ... produced by Madlib was a great album
Damn, ain’t bumped that in a long time!!! Salute!
Ayo!! That album is still in heavy rotation!
Love that album
I remember first hearing the "In Search of Stoney Jackson" podcast by Stonesthrow when it came out.
That Stoney Jackson album is 🔥🔥🔥. Slept on and very underrated.
man Madlib seems like such a genuine guy, incredible how down to earth he is considering he's the GOAT
Madlib makes incredible beats on his ipad. This validates all the bedroom producers out there. Stay grinding.
i’ve been preaching that The Professionals self titled is the most underrated album of all time. everyone who sees this comment, go listen to it rn. Madlib & Oh No!!
Yo had a smile on my face for most of this interview. Much love and respect for getting the King on People's Party.
It's another Madlib Invazion. I'm glad that Madlib has been doing these interviews lately. I remember when Talib brought Madlib on BET's Rap City. I'm looking forward to see what Madlib has in store for us in the future. Also, if MF DOOM is Charlie Parker, and if J Dilla is John Coltrane, and if Madlib is Thelonious Monk; then who is Miles Davis?
Qtip?
Pete Rock.
Yea I rememba dat rap city Interview
@@warnutztheloser it was so weird and strange seeing Madlib on BET, because he was the last person I would expect to be on BET. However, Talib was hosting Rap City and decided to bring on Madlib. Also, you could tell that Madlib was out of his element during that interview.
I actually saw that interview in my UA-cam algorithm like 3 months ago. It just seemed so thrown together and I had a feeling since Blackstar II is in talks we'd get a proper interview from Talib. As for your Miles Davis comment, I was going to say Kanye West due to him being the commonly named artist, but I don't know a underground/ versatile slept on beatmaker on par with that. Perhaps a Miles Davis is coming soon and he/she hasn't even picked up a drum machine yet..🤔
Awesome interview. So great to hear Madlib talk about his quasimoto days, jaylib, his perspective on the current hip-hop climate, and perhaps most importantly, updates that the BlackStar AND Liberation II are in the pipeline!!!??? That would make everyone's summer really special.
Yes! The Beat Konducta
in the flesh!
My cousin & I went to the Freddie Gibbs, Talib Kweli, & MADLiB concert at the NOVO in Downtown L.A on July 12, 2019(my lil sisters 29th Bday) & it was AMAZiNG!!!!
That was the 1st time that I have EVER seen those 3 PiONEERS Of Music (all in the same building & on stage together) or at all in general.
3 things scratched off of my bucket list
Here to hear the Beat Konducta, lets go!
it's on!
PLEASE DROP THAT BLACKSTAR 2!!!
15:35 bro he made the unseen in A WEEK? that's one of my favorite records of all time, can't believe it only took a week to make. what a legend.
30:55 And Shades of Blue in FOUR DAYS? HOW? Incredible.
My dream album will forever be Kendrick and Madlib, Madlib will always be my goat producer
Yes that would be crazy🔥🔥
Oh man what about Madlib AND Dre on a whole collab record with Black Hippy?
@@maggotmusic757 if it were just Kendrick and Madlib I’d at least want a Black Hippy posse cut
anybody and I mean ANYBODY but that pip squeak rapper. Be more original
@@renegade595 To Pimp a Butterfly is the best Hip-Hop project ever made
He is one of the most prolific, versatile music acts in the industry. Im 26 and studied Madlib since like 14, His knowledge of past music and overall ear is insane, and you know he's passionate about what he does cuz he so hard to find and never does it for fame. Seeing how we losing so many legends, I gotta give Madlib his flowers while he's still here. Big up Ms. Jasmine and Brother Kweli
Madlib has immense passion for music and it shines thru.
The comment section truly shows how much madlib means to his fans and how much respect he has from the people that like his stuff. Madlib, it's inspirational to see you going strong and I'm excited for your stuff in the future, whatever that is. Also shout out to kweli and Jasmin for this great interview, for keeping it so genuine and interesting.
Madlib, The Alchemist, Daringer and Beat Butcha are doing the illest and dopest production right now in hip hop music right now.
Long live Madlib and thank you guys for this interview, very rare to see him out here talking
Apollo Brown it's my favorite producer right now....
Beat butcha is wack
use Madlib (a legendary Black producer) to lowkey shift the conversation to three White dudes lmao (one who is marginal and two who are flat out wack). We see how y'all bots operate.
@@tochiRTA don't matter if they black, white or orange, they make dope music, except beat bucha lol
But Madlib still tha god fo sure
@@lucaslopes4233 Apollo Brown is underappreciated
yeeeessirr was waiting for this one 💯
LL DOOM🕊LL DILLA
Honor his talents while he’s still here on this planet.
Madlib says "rap music should be more like Public Enemy's stuff..." YES! Completely thrilled to hear this. Music is inherently about the culture, which is about politics and everything else. The majors just want to push materialism
Salute to Talib getting this rare rare rare Madlib interview maaan this was amazing. I seriously excited for the Liberation 2 and Black Star albums I just hope we get to hear these in the near future
Yall almost got an hour out of this cat. That is IMPRESSIVE. Dope
I think it takes strong people like yourselves to put out such good music. Thanks for the real shit our ears need to listen too!
Bless up ... Madlib...... shout out to everyone named Otis
He stopped rapping after Dilla died. WOW!
Yessir whatever 2013
@@steezgawdextraswa6906 that was a collection of unreleased music
@@matthewgalloway5668 he did drop a new song that he MCs on called "catchin the vibe" on Yessir Whatever, but otherwise yea, all old stuff
That is true
@@steezgawdextraswa6906 yes. great album too. he has been missed.
Respect to Madlib and the whole StonesThrow crew 🙏🏾
35:36 - "SOMETHING ABOUT YOU OXNARD BOYS WITH THEM DRUMS", Damn right, Great Observation!!! The mighty OX is home to native boom bap drums.
And another great interview! Thank you for this! Alot of gems that I didn't know. Madlib is your breath of fresh air x10.
Never seen Madlib talk this much! Awesome.
Don't know why but when he said he had indy rock records, I really wanna hear him and Tame Impala working on a record.
How could Tha Alkaholiks been left out of the interview...great interview but alot of people got on Loot Pack because of Tha Liks.. Loot Pack was in Tha Liks first 3 albums and madlib produced on those three albums also before the Loot Pack album even came out... 21 and Over has 2 madlib beats on it back in 93 ... so credit to Tha Liks for recognizing talent and giving Loot Pack a shot
Most definitely. The funny thing about The Alkaholiks for myself getting into hip-hop in the 2000s via UA-cam, is the Madlib connection made me discover The Alkaholiks after hearing the "Killin It" beat.😂 Liks are super slept on general though from what I've heard from many hip-hop heads.
@@seinenwax94jr9 have u checked out the Rap Life album by Tash of Tha Alkaholiks?
@@seinenwax94jr9 thats one of my favorite joints off the Liquidation album.
@@frankturcios6075 I haven't finished that album but that Rap Life track with Raekwon is very good imo. Ive also heard a few of Tash's other solo stuff here and there like the song he did for Knockout Kings 2001. Is the rest of Rap Life as good as that Raekwon song?
@@jesusgalvez6127 Oh yeah!! I love the breakdown of that beat right before Xzibit starts rapping. Likwidation, XO Life, and their last albums are the only ones I haven't finished listening to. Next to Wu Tang and Mobb Deep, they are my favorite artists to rap on Loud Music.
madlib is a legend! very humble dude too.
Bless y'all for this!!! 🌹🌹🌹 I agree with Talib tho Madlib was killing shit with the raps! The Space Ways frfr Imma need to get him on some beats ASAP💯
The interview we all needed 🔥🙏🚀
heart breaks everytime he says he wont do more quas. and its not about the rapping, its about those style of beats. the unseen, blackmarket seminar, history of the loop digga
Take a shot everytime Talib Kweli says “no doubt”
THE PP DRINKING GAME!
Y’all stay bringing the legends on here. By far the most consistently great producers period. Respect.
Madlib is one of my main inspirations. Followed his work for eons. Mans got that music in his genes from his family members. That golden ear.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this madlib is one of my favorite producers along with his brother Oh no and Alchemist..
I love the brother Madlib, he's a living breathing legend. Seriously he's a genius.
KWELI THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS THANK YOU MADLIB THANK YOU JASMIN
Great Interview! The best questions he's ever been asked. I can somewhat relate to his personality, I don't mess with social media much & hard to get a hold of. I'm also from the 805 1hr away from Oxnard so it's always great to see someone from this area succeed in the music industry especially someone at this caliber. Madlib in my Top 5 producers list his beats speaks to the soul more than some words. Rest In Beats DOOM & Dilla.
Shoutout to Talib and Jazmine for having Madlib on. I’ve know about him for a long time but got really into him like many my age after hearing bandana. He is such an institution and pioneer, a true artist. Getting this interview is an absolute win for hip hop, salute!
It's so nice to hear from the man! My favourite beatmaker of all time! Thanks to Talib and the crew! I'm looking forward to watch the podcast with Dave and Mos! Salute!
Quasimoto!! very rare! Madlibs one of the best. Much respect
Talib: What do you remember about making that album?
Madlib: nothing man I was smoking a lot then
LOLOLOLOLOLZ Madlibs the realest
he's 100% authentic to himself at all times
It's pretty sad.
@thewirah1 idk about sad, dude is such a master at his craft, that even jams made when high in the studio just messing around become classics, that’s impressive!
When I’m high I just eat snacks & fall asleep lololz no classic albums are accidentally made
Shoutout Madlib for puttin a lot of us on to Melvin Van Peebs & Talib for bringing him up.
🗣🧠
I love that Kweli is a huge Quas/Madlib fan. It totally shows, which is great and gets me excited about music.
Madlib one of the best producers of any genre to ever live. Been rockin since lootpack 💕 only man that could stand toe to toe with Dilla on the beats
Madlib is like the most humble person in the whole world even though he is a genius among us regular humans. This was such a real conversation, only Talib can pull off such rare interviews
Lib is the best period. Then marci.. then u got the classic guys that should never be questioned
That would actually be a dope LP.
Listening to Madvillainy and Jaylib got me into sampling. Now i got my own MPC and am finding the freedom of sampling. Its fucking beautiful 👑🕊🤍
Great interview, all legends here..I didn't know Madlib was Quasimoto..WOW 👏
Nottz hella underrated, dude needs his flowers
Great accolades in the intro and every word deserved. I run into genius madlib productions no matter where i go without even trying. One of the best and most prolific producers in all music.
Watched this multiple times….
Dang….dope. Big up Talib for this great show.
Cool interviews.
Finally! been so hyped since the 4 minute tease from last week. Always a pleasure to hear two legends converse. “musically schizophrenic” officially in my verbal lexicon.
I'm 38. I'm from Poland. Back in the 1999 or 2000 i saw Whenimonthemic on independent music TV. That was it. I became an instant fan. Napster helped me tbh. (Egon already know the story, we met. Too long for comment section). Basictly i was a biggest Madlib and Stones throw fan in Poland, no doubt! Most of the important DJs ifrom Poland know me from that days. Later on i've started to collecting Stones Throw records, so I became a DJ myself. Which I am durring this day. And thats my only job. Madlib shaped my music sensiibility 100%. Thank You Madlib, PBWolf, Egon.
Long Awaited had rotation in my car for like a decade.
great top 3, made me so happy to hear my mans gave shouts to Nottz! Like he said, one of the most slept on. Great listen all around. Long live DÓÔM n Dilla
I’d love to hear Madlib talk more. Talib pulled a NORE in this one… 😂😂
Shout out to Kwe, Jazmine and The Beat Konducta. I'm glad Madlib mentioned Pete Rock, because I always feel he's often overlooked.
man, madlib is one of the most elusive interviewees. thank you Talib for giving us this great discussion!
This interview is a fulfillment of a dream! Thank you! Livicated to MF Doom and Dilla! Jasmin you are beautiful!
I wanna be more like madlib , he so laid back .
Thanks Uproxx! That was excellent interview, that was a quality Madlib talk.
RIP MF DOOM & DILLA.
This is another great Legendary Hip-Hop interview. I'll love to see a Alchemist interview next
I just heard auditorium for the first time yesterday. So.. Now im here.. This man is different.
Been waiting for this interview for YEARSSSSSSS🔥🔥🤟🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾THE GOAT🤟🏾🤟🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤟🏾🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾THANK YOU
Great interview. Always great to hear Madlib talk for the culture. Salute !
Goddamn legendary interview. Hyped for a new blackstar album
man that was a special thing to watch... I'm so glad this exists