Hmmm. Everyone around me for decades always had access to therapy. What does a color have to do with seeking therapy? I begin to see that Black people experiences is what separates them from other Blacks. Because I can’t relate to a lot of my own people.
I don’t believe we don’t change we just “shift” that may be a woman’s perspective because that’s her experience. As a man when I found God he/she changed my life and turned it around. When I look in the mirror I see a whole new person who I am proud of. I no longer think the way I used to think. It’s evolving. When ever you evolve you change you don’t “shift”. To add even to shift is to change. When the Earth quakes it shifts the land causing that land to become disrupted. Thus changing the land scape. Therefore technically if you shift, even if you are suppressing something you have changed the way you perform that habit, because you don’t blatantly do it the same as you once did. Shifting is an action once you move anything you have CHANGED where it once was.
There’s a shift in this session. Nick isn’t constantly talking or obviously thinking about how to respond. He’s receiving which in turn makes his remarks more potent.
Because he is a narcissist. He cannot maintain focus on another person or tolerate anything that challenges the image he has of himself. The main marker of NPD is a total lack of empathy - try to find ONE moment of true empathy in his tone of voice and body language. Ignore what he says. People with NPD will say anything and cannot be trusted.
This was a deep, mature, dynamic conversation. I love Nick facing her this time. I would love to see Dr. Bryant with Dr. Umar and her assessment of him.
I think his psychology is complicated by his views on sexuality, race and Pan Africanism. He's right about a great many things, he is extremely well educated and insightful but the Rubicon off race---a social mental illness/anxiety---infects that oppressor less than the oppressed so that the oppressed becomes, perpetuates, a form of oppression to try and achieve liberation. I'm paraphrasing Frantz Fanon there, yet anther psychologist, but I think that's what impairs Dr. Johnson socially and to some degree, his overall message.
As a psychologist, I appreciate her taking the time to discuss how people can sometimes wear their labels (or diagnosis) even if it's not truly reflective of who they are. You can have tendencies without meeting the full clinical criteria of a particular diagnosis. Moreover, Black and Brown people tend to be overdiagnosed with more severe diagnoses and underdiagnosed with less severe diagnoses. Always make sure that the diagnosis resonates with you. If it doesn't, get a second opinion so that someone else isn't projecting their biases unto you.
Truth is only true because we accept it as such. Our underlying beliefs dictate how we interpret information. Changing your core beliefs can completely change our views of the world and in turn how we respond, which is our behavior.
It is INCREDIBLY important that Dr. Umar not only called out Dr. Bryant's abandonment issues, but that she acknowledged and agreed to it! Offered a little pushback, but still conceded. That humility was impressive.
He didn't "call out" anything. She said out HER OWN MOUTH that she has abandonment issues. He tried to shame her for being single due to those issues. When he needs to discuss what his issues are and why he's running from being in a serious relationship
@@filmadcamp1512right ! My thoughts exactly..if he was really listening she already addressed that and explained how she did the work and is now a high functioning woman
@@filmadcamp1512 I agree with this. Based off of this small clip b/c I have not watched his interview it does not seem to be coming from a loving place. He was more trying to call her out and make her look "bad". He mistook what she was saying.
@idasiasellers5250 so many black women have daddy issues. Which is interesting considering the fact that there are just as many terrible mothers as there are fathers... but somehow the mothers always seem to get a pass.
Anyone who grow up with a hardworking father, who spent time with them, assisted in child care, who came home every night. Usually have a sense of peace as adults and only have praises to say about their dad.
The fact that she admits that Dr. Umar is correct and explains how shows a lot of growth. It’s great that she did that and also admitted that she worked on it and is doing better with her own issues
What? For a pretend diagnosis for a pretend condition so people can feel bad about him? “I fathered 12 kids from 6 months…but see, I am a narcissist… and it’s not my fault”… said every deadbeat dad ever
There is something so special about people who demonstrate vulnerability and take accountability openly and fearlessly. I salute you Nick and I Love you Dr. Bryant!! This was such a beautiful and valuable conversation. Thank you!!
I get 100% what Nick was saying about being raised in a Christian household and the rhetoric one inadvertently hears about them being above everyone else because Christ is with them. What Christ said was pure, but man’s hearts are not pure. Therefore broken people with a list of dysfunctional behaviors and childhood trauma get ahold of scripture and turns it into a weapon to be used against their fellow man. I don’t know how many times I was told I was anointed to preach, God has a calling on my life, Gods favor is on me, I have Gods grace and so on. All these things are ok but I was never taught through scripture that I had a bad attitude or that I lacked self discipline and restraint. My parents didn’t help me understand that I was greedy and full of pride by correctly using Gods word. There is a such thing as Christian Narcissism. Nick was explaining what that looks like in the life of someone who grew up with care givers who had an imbalanced interpretation of scripture.
He was so triggered he let Corey Holcomb (scrub) come to his show and disrespect Dr. Bryant’s credentials , age and fertility.He let a scrub disrespect a beautiful black woman for no reason other than she told him the truth. Low-functioning men being together talking shit about a high-functioning woman. Typical low-functioning behavior.
I told a friend that I wish she had been there for me in my time of need like I was there for her. She ended the friendship. Sharing your feelings will show you how people are.
Soon as it’s time for accountability ppl wanna talk about judgmental. Ppl struggle with internalizing ppl’s behaviors. She’s describing the behavior not the person. Ppl refuse to accept that they’re the root of most of their problems
Thank you Dr Cheyenne for being honest and holding Nick accountable it seems he is surrounded by “yes men” that tip toe around him to make him feel good about his choices.. he seems to have been “doing the work” since his 5th child On Halloween he posted videos saying” with the family” but aleast 7 kids were missing I wonder when his kids see those how does that make them feel? One day he will have to face and answer some different questions from them hopefully “his work” starts working
Nick I’m proud of you as a black man interviewing a black woman. You are very different with her in this interview. As a black woman I felt angry during the first conversation because I felt she was disrespected by your responses and body language. But I feel healed from this interview from the same thing-your responses and body language. Thank you for respecting her and having a very nice conversation so I can learn from her genius as your guest and enjoy the conversation. I appreciate you bringing her on again. Thanks. You are a real one.
This was the realest conversation.. big respect to Nick cause I really didn't want to like him at the beginning of this. There is such relief when it comes to accountability. Regardless of what mistakes you made, people really underestimate how much accountability truly brings healing!
40:09 Cheyenne is right, black men needs take accountability of their actions but black women should also be held accountable for dating/having babies with low functioning men.
While accountability is important for both sides, it's important to acknowledge that the reality for many Black women is that the pool of 'high-functioning' Black men is limited, often due to systemic factors like economic disparities, mass incarceration, and lack of access to quality opportunities. This makes it even more crucial for Black men to address these issues and work toward self-improvement. Real change starts with tackling these larger challenges that start with black men not black women.
Nick I respect you for being as open as possible, knowing the amount of heat you are going to take, just so that black men are able to heal and our community is able to start these tough conversations. I know most won’t be able to look past your diagnosis and past, but this is an example of how there is no one God cannot heal. There is no one the Holy Spirit cannot speak through.
Deg Nick doing the same thing to his kids that happened to him. I do love this conversation. The transparency and vulnerability top notch. Excellent interview!
Love this interview and I see the growth in both, and Dr. Bryant did say in another interview that working with clients also helps her and I can see. The humility makes her even more beautiful. Prayers for both
@@shanellejimenez6051 If you look at the actual lighting of the set when it’s focused on one person the background is black/dark giving it an ominous/closed of look if that makes sense. It doesn’t match the openness of the conversation.
Go back and watch. It wasn't softness... it was performative. Think about this.. If someone accuses you of being an actual Narcissist, your response is going to be 'I love that he said that' with a smile? And just like she accused Nick of doing the previous episode, she dug herself out of it and escaped by pointing the finger at Cam with her assumptions that Cam was triggered because 'It meant, not him' then Nick laughs because he sees through it and asks her sarcastically 'did you pick up on that?' ... Why??? She created the story with her assumptions that not only was Cam triggered (he could've been but know way her for to actually KNOW this) , but she knew why he was triggered, and it was nothing more than because Cam wanted her lol.
@clarkpetion305 two things can be true at the same time. Maybe there is some element to her being performative. I dont know. She doesn't deny that she is a work in progress like we all are. I am not here to argue what her true intentions. However someone like myself who loves personal development and getting to understand the inner workings of my own trauma and when someone gives me some ah haa moment to move forward in my life, it's almost a high giddy feeling. I know the more I shed my trauma the more I can step into my authentic freeing self and that is what I was able to recognize that part of her in that moment. She will mess up and life will correct her as long as she is committed to doing her work. I am not her to tear her down.
@kala9907 I am definitely not in the biz of trying to tear anyone down ESPECIALLY a black women. What I'm tired of seeing is black women getting the short end of the stick while time goes by chasing their accolades to make up for the emptiness and loneliness they aren't vulnerable enough to admit that they're feeling. I understand why they do it. It just doesn't really solve anything.
@@clarkpetion305black women journeys on their evolution is not your issue to bear. Focus on what brings you joy. God will reveal to us black women what we need to do next for our own growth.
Accountability and transparency it's a lot of us either know someone or has some type of mental disorder and the only way to move through is to address it first, seek the help to heal it and progress through it all. The age of awakening is here and I am here for it. Love and healing on your journey
Such an important conversation to be had … cudos to Nick for his leadership and vulnerability … I hope the ones that need to hear this receive it from a healing perspective
I’ve been this for years about people not changing and all my friends thought I was crazy because I didn’t have the right words mines were you just hopefully become a better version of yourself but you are who you are and the real you will come out when faced with adversity, but hopefully in your growth it will a difference in how you handle it
Oh im so grateful for this conversation. Acknowledging and addressing the way we contribute to our own healing is such a breath of fresh air. I love it. I was in a relationship with a narcissist that refuses to acknowledge how hes traumatized me and our children. Our house is broke but my home is far from broken. My children and I are at peace and thats my biggest flex.
Very Deep episode. Dr Bryant and Nick Cannon eloquently speak clearly on the subject of mental health. I learned a lot about myself during this episode!
I love this kind of talk! I really hope and pray that Nick continues to engage with Dr Bryant because she brings the best out of him! Nick is a very intelligent man. I didn't appreciate the decision he made but I'm glad he's owning up to it.
Im here after her Breakfast Club interview 😂Dr Bryant is good to listen and I like the "low function and high functioning" conversations and the "Shifting" not changing concept.
@@sealedindictment from an eternity of damnation; eternity in hell; lake of fire ...from narcissism which is sin - for those who place their faith in Jesus the Christ are set free from being a slave to the flesh
This was REALLY good. I don't vibe with some of the replacement terminology BUT I love this conversation surrounding what hard work looks and sounds like when you're really working on yourself
Great episode! Nick and Cam seem to be remixing how some African civilizations lived. Being an African , let me point out that there are ancient African ways of living where one man fathered kids with multiple wives. However, the key word is wives, because everyone lived in the same household/compound. Kids grew up together, mothers had to sign off on any additional wives, they all shared responsibilities, and the father had his duties under the same roof. This structure is almost non-existent now.
Bravo 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾to Nick and Doctor Bryant, awesome observation, conversation, and regulation. thank you, I cannot wait the round table conversation with Dr. Umar🔥🔥🔥
With all do respect to Dr Cheyenne and all the good that she is- it sounds like she attracted herself (aka men with the same core wound of abandonment) in the past relationships she referenced. And that likely played a part in the magnetism of the relationship. This kind of intense attraction/paradigm is a trauma bond. Where people relate from their wound and not their worth. The men that she was in relationships with also seemed anxiously attached to her (implied by their unwillingness to assert healthy boundaries with someone who was well practiced in violating boundaries (aka controlling behaviors). The anxious-avoidant dance is common.... I hope these brothers see, validate and choose to tend to their own trauma/wounds.
This is a very high-level comment! Very few will register this. What’s your take on who people typically end up with. Like attracts like; opposites attract; we marry our mothers? i can’t seem to put my hand on it
Leaving women with children with no intention of building with their mother is irresponsible. Deadbeat dad isn’t the same thing. But the child does miss out in some regard going without both of their parents
@cmichelle6888 I think the difference is you can be irresponsible while financially taking care of your kids i.e. not a deadbeat. A deadbeat is irresponsible and financially neglectful.
I respect and appreciate everything she is saying, and has said in previous interviews. There is NOTHING wrong with her not having children and to those who have a problem with HER life you need to take a good look within because that’s a YOU problem.
Glad to see her back on these platforms. I dont fully agree with all her views but the way Cam disrespected after she left was wrong. Let her have her views. No need for disrespect
Narcissism exists on a spectrum & we all have it, some more than others. A narcissist will never admit that something is wrong with them. Nick has helped too many ppl & allowed folks to openly criticize & joke about his relationships & career choices to have a severe case of narcissism.
I came here from a clickbait headline and I came and sat through the whole damn thing finding so much wisdom and keys to release so many from the thought traps we've been setting from our selves for thousands of years
I don't care what anyone says... I damn near cried to this interview when Dr. Bryant "SAW" Nick amid his dysfunction as a black man doing only the very BEST he could in developing appropriate coping stretegies toward managing his past mistakes and hiccups previously conducted in ignorance. She acknowledged that he is simply picking up the pieces left behind following the shattering and yet residual effects of white supremacy in america, "seeing" him in his struggle... something most modern-day black women NEVER do... Kudos to the fine Doc and all she contributes to this powerful conversation 👏 👌. A shining example indeed!!
What is amazing with what has been discussed is that after therapy and learning to sit with myself and ask the uncomfortable questions it has drastically changed my perspective on life. Would love another one of these 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
As someone who's been watching Umar for over a decade I can't believe that he would attempt analyze someone's personal relationships when he has never brought his children or exes on any platform. I would love to hear from them. If he's, at the least, manupulating the community for over a decade for $$$ for a school that has never opened what do we think the extent of his manipulation of his family is. We already know he lied about his ancestral ties to Frederick Douglass because his real family came out. I need people to put him on pause until he's held accountable for his own life.
Neither of them are understanding that a true narc has bad intentions. They are not self obsessed they become obsessed with the feeling they get from their prey. Making them feel bad, criticisms, not acknowledging ppl as their own beings..thats narcissistic.
Im at 50 min & she just said something profound for me I had to stop & speak on. We never control anybody else we control our own emotions. That made me think about my abusive & controlling ex. He was not controlling ME bc he can't control me, he was trying to keep from feeling what I was triggering in him. That makes me shift viewing myself as a victim. Wow. I need to sit with that.
A couple of observations: 1. Nick's jacket is fire. 2. Dr. Bryant plays a lot of semantics with the way she labels things. After a while, the labels lose their value. 3. There is an interesting dichotomy where Nick is very open to the critiques, however the attention he receives in being picked apart may actually feed his narcissism.
Nothing can lose value If it is indeed valuable it only gains value through out time. The question would be what is valuable to you personally not the weight and value of what's being said. In my opinion.
I can do all things through Christ that strengthens me is more about Christ strength and ability than our own strength and ability. I’m able to do what I do because of the strength of Christ at operation within me.
I love that black people are having mental health conversations.
🎯
Why you black
😂😂😂
Hmmm. Everyone around me for decades always had access to therapy. What does a color have to do with seeking therapy? I begin to see that Black people experiences is what separates them from other Blacks. Because I can’t relate to a lot of my own people.
I don’t believe we don’t change we just “shift” that may be a woman’s perspective because that’s her experience. As a man when I found God he/she changed my life and turned it around. When I look in the mirror I see a whole new person who I am proud of. I no longer think the way I used to think. It’s evolving. When ever you evolve you change you don’t “shift”. To add even to shift is to change. When the Earth quakes it shifts the land causing that land to become disrupted. Thus changing the land scape. Therefore technically if you shift, even if you are suppressing something you have changed the way you perform that habit, because you don’t blatantly do it the same as you once did. Shifting is an action once you move anything you have CHANGED where it once was.
Healed people hear differently
❤
🗣🗣🗣
This.
Women want men to be women
This simple sentence hits like a dissertation 😳 👏🏾
Dr. Bryant is so important because men who make as much money as Nick need someone who will tell them the truth!
Do you really think Nick cares tho
She is lying on blk men to get famous. You same girls love dr bryant but didn't like KS?
Dr. Bryant may be more evil than Nick cannon. tf you talking about.
There’s a shift in this session. Nick isn’t constantly talking or obviously thinking about how to respond. He’s receiving which in turn makes his remarks more potent.
So basically Nick is listening to Dr. Cheyenne as opposed to simply hearing her. GotIt 👌🏽
Because he is a narcissist. He cannot maintain focus on another person or tolerate anything that challenges the image he has of himself. The main marker of NPD is a total lack of empathy - try to find ONE moment of true empathy in his tone of voice and body language. Ignore what he says. People with NPD will say anything and cannot be trusted.
I can totally feel that also… the “little Nick” feels safe.
This was a deep, mature, dynamic conversation. I love Nick facing her this time. I would love to see Dr. Bryant with Dr. Umar and her assessment of him.
deep and mature?😂 you’re here for the entertainment and inevitable train wreck
@@sealedindictment I really wasn't. Thank your service!
@@sparr5132
I think his psychology is complicated by his views on sexuality, race and Pan Africanism. He's right about a great many things, he is extremely well educated and insightful but the Rubicon off race---a social mental illness/anxiety---infects that oppressor less than the oppressed so that the oppressed becomes, perpetuates, a form of oppression to try and achieve liberation. I'm paraphrasing Frantz Fanon there, yet anther psychologist, but I think that's what impairs Dr. Johnson socially and to some degree, his overall message.
As a psychologist, I appreciate her taking the time to discuss how people can sometimes wear their labels (or diagnosis) even if it's not truly reflective of who they are. You can have tendencies without meeting the full clinical criteria of a particular diagnosis. Moreover, Black and Brown people tend to be overdiagnosed with more severe diagnoses and underdiagnosed with less severe diagnoses. Always make sure that the diagnosis resonates with you. If it doesn't, get a second opinion so that someone else isn't projecting their biases unto you.
I really loved the, “ Is it a learned behavior? “ And if you unlearn it , it’s not really you. That hit deep.
Truth is only true because we accept it as such. Our underlying beliefs dictate how we interpret information.
Changing your core beliefs can completely change our views of the world and in turn how we respond, which is our behavior.
💯📌
Proverbs 14:12
"There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death"
It is INCREDIBLY important that Dr. Umar not only called out Dr. Bryant's abandonment issues, but that she acknowledged and agreed to it! Offered a little pushback, but still conceded. That humility was impressive.
Oh, she's good. Being authenticate is being able to take the truth from someone else that you know of yourself. She's aware.
He didn't "call out" anything. She said out HER OWN MOUTH that she has abandonment issues. He tried to shame her for being single due to those issues. When he needs to discuss what his issues are and why he's running from being in a serious relationship
@@filmadcamp1512right ! My thoughts exactly..if he was really listening she already addressed that and explained how she did the work and is now a high functioning woman
@@filmadcamp1512 I agree with this. Based off of this small clip b/c I have not watched his interview it does not seem to be coming from a loving place. He was more trying to call her out and make her look "bad". He mistook what she was saying.
@@meekmeek2000yes very self aware
My father broke my heart long before any man could 💔 He taught me so much about what NOT to do.
How so?
Same
My father taught me that nobody was coming to save me and that I have to depend on myself.
Same here sis ❤
@idasiasellers5250 so many black women have daddy issues. Which is interesting considering the fact that there are just as many terrible mothers as there are fathers... but somehow the mothers always seem to get a pass.
I like how she received Dr. Umar's analysis of her.
Class act
Own your sht !
She didn't lol... It's funny how most ppl don't see how much Nick was trolling her with the Narcissism accusation lol.
@@clarkpetion305only a person who doesn’t take accountability will troll the truth
@@clarkpetion305 you are probably the smartest person in the comments
Anyone who grow up with a hardworking father, who spent time with them, assisted in child care, who came home every night. Usually have a sense of peace as adults and only have praises to say about their dad.
Facts
Very much true my daddy was all of this❤
Agreed! My dad is the closest thing to God to me ❤
Very true ! My dad is my hero ! ❤
I use to agree but I’ve seen some of these new young adults that have become entitled and disgusting
The fact that she admits that Dr. Umar is correct and explains how shows a lot of growth. It’s great that she did that and also admitted that she worked on it and is doing better with her own issues
Dr. Umar is a good racist.
It’s really dope that Nick created this platform to discuss tough issues. He is making it cool to get therapy ! Salute
Therapy from who and for who?
What? For a pretend diagnosis for a pretend condition so people can feel bad about him? “I fathered 12 kids from 6 months…but see, I am a narcissist… and it’s not my fault”… said every deadbeat dad ever
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw thats literally npd not taking accountability but also impulsively
There is something so special about people who demonstrate vulnerability and take accountability openly and fearlessly. I salute you Nick and I Love you Dr. Bryant!! This was such a beautiful and valuable conversation. Thank you!!
how do you know they’re taking accountability?
When you already own true perspective of yourself , it doesn't surprise you to hear it out loud
THIS IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE SO FAR 🔥 I AM SOOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS DR. BRYANT / DR. UMAR SERIES, THEY NEED EXTRA TIME 😂😂 I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE 🥰
Yesssssssssss!!!
Extra time 🤣
Shes a fraud. Not a doctor
I get 100% what Nick was saying about being raised in a Christian household and the rhetoric one inadvertently hears about them being above everyone else because Christ is with them. What Christ said was pure, but man’s hearts are not pure. Therefore broken people with a list of dysfunctional behaviors and childhood trauma get ahold of scripture and turns it into a weapon to be used against their fellow man. I don’t know how many times I was told I was anointed to preach, God has a calling on my life, Gods favor is on me, I have Gods grace and so on. All these things are ok but I was never taught through scripture that I had a bad attitude or that I lacked self discipline and restraint. My parents didn’t help me understand that I was greedy and full of pride by correctly using Gods word. There is a such thing as Christian Narcissism. Nick was explaining what that looks like in the life of someone who grew up with care givers who had an imbalanced interpretation of scripture.
Christian narcissism affected me to the point where I don't talk to my family.
Yessss! I’m glad she said it! Cam newton was definitely triggered with the no kid thing cause she wouldn’t be interested in him lol
He doesn't want her this lady is delusional af and low functional
And that's facts !
FOH. Then why did she show up lookin like American’s next top thot if she wasn’t feelin Cam?
He was so triggered he let Corey Holcomb (scrub) come to his show and disrespect Dr. Bryant’s credentials , age and fertility.He let a scrub disrespect a beautiful black woman for no reason other than she told him the truth. Low-functioning men being together talking shit about a high-functioning woman. Typical low-functioning behavior.
FOH. Then why did she show up with her tits bustin out lookin like America’s next top thot?
I told a friend that I wish she had been there for me in my time of need like I was there for her. She ended the friendship. Sharing your feelings will show you how people are.
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Be careful expecting folks to be there for you when they have difficulty being there for themselves
@@deshanteeoliver9477 preach!
Nick bring Dr Ulmar and Dr Bryant back, but together.
THAT'D be something!!!!!!!!!
Great idea 💡
Fr fr!
Why? Y'all just looking for sound bytes.
I need nothing outside of me to support my mood. This is my mood forever.. I choose positive energy at all times…
What Dr Bryant was saying about abandonment is so me. Single at 42 and i literally called off all engagements and any potential serious relationship
what a cope 😂 stop being so attached to your story
@@sealedindictmentyour low functioning self serves no purpose here
@@mamajoycewig3041 “single at 42…” looking for excuses is low functioning
As a therapist, I can appreciate we are finally having real professional conversations about mental health. ❤❤❤
Yesssssssssss
You can tell laughing is the coping mechanism when it comes to acknowledging parts of yourself that you know for sure you need to change
Yaaas, so me
I appreciate the respect shown here, the space held for truth , opinion & perspective and growth…
Soon as it’s time for accountability ppl wanna talk about judgmental. Ppl struggle with internalizing ppl’s behaviors. She’s describing the behavior not the person. Ppl refuse to accept that they’re the root of most of their problems
Ppl just say it in a way pf cockyness like as if their checking somebody
THANK YOU NICK for your honesty and transparency……. OMG I wish my NARC ex would watch this
Thank you Dr Cheyenne for being honest and holding Nick accountable it seems he is surrounded by “yes men” that tip toe around him to make him feel good about his choices.. he seems to have been “doing the work” since his 5th child
On Halloween he posted videos saying” with the family” but aleast 7 kids were missing I wonder when his kids see those how does that make them feel? One day he will have to face and answer some different questions from them hopefully “his work” starts working
1st of all... she is *not* a doctor!!! self-proclaimed doesn't count
She no doctor. And she can't even hold herself accountable.
Nick was brave to do it again. 👏👏 this is growth, bravery, & therapy. Much respect to them both ‼️
Nick I’m proud of you as a black man interviewing a black woman. You are very different with her in this interview. As a black woman I felt angry during the first conversation because I felt she was disrespected by your responses and body language. But I feel healed from this interview from the same thing-your responses and body language. Thank you for respecting her and having a very nice conversation so I can learn from her genius as your guest and enjoy the conversation. I appreciate you bringing her on again. Thanks. You are a real one.
This was the realest conversation.. big respect to Nick cause I really didn't want to like him at the beginning of this. There is such relief when it comes to accountability. Regardless of what mistakes you made, people really underestimate how much accountability truly brings healing!
40:09 Cheyenne is right, black men needs take accountability of their actions but black women should also be held accountable for dating/having babies with low functioning men.
While accountability is important for both sides, it's important to acknowledge that the reality for many Black women is that the pool of 'high-functioning' Black men is limited, often due to systemic factors like economic disparities, mass incarceration, and lack of access to quality opportunities. This makes it even more crucial for Black men to address these issues and work toward self-improvement. Real change starts with tackling these larger challenges that start with black men not black women.
Nick I respect you for being as open as possible, knowing the amount of heat you are going to take, just so that black men are able to heal and our community is able to start these tough conversations. I know most won’t be able to look past your diagnosis and past, but this is an example of how there is no one God cannot heal. There is no one the Holy Spirit cannot speak through.
Deg Nick doing the same thing to his kids that happened to him. I do love this conversation. The transparency and vulnerability top notch. Excellent interview!
Love this interview and I see the growth in both, and Dr. Bryant did say in another interview that working with clients also helps her and I can see. The humility makes her even more beautiful. Prayers for both
I was totally unfamiliar with her. Now, I'm a big fan. She made connections I never would have made. She's great. More discussions, please.
The lighting sets a combative tone to a positive conversation. My lighting teacher’s critiques comes to mind lol
Doesn’t look like she’s back lit at all.
I kinda like it lol
@@Msladyrae92Neither of them are back-lit but she does have a hair light.
wait can someone please explain what you all mean by the lighting set a combative tone.
@@shanellejimenez6051 If you look at the actual lighting of the set when it’s focused on one person the background is black/dark giving it an ominous/closed of look if that makes sense. It doesn’t match the openness of the conversation.
Anyone who works and gets help for themselves shows growth. If you continue to do what you always did, You will get what you always got...FACTS
I appreciate her softness when she was reflecting in her response to Dr Umar
Go back and watch. It wasn't softness... it was performative. Think about this.. If someone accuses you of being an actual Narcissist, your response is going to be 'I love that he said that' with a smile? And just like she accused Nick of doing the previous episode, she dug herself out of it and escaped by pointing the finger at Cam with her assumptions that Cam was triggered because 'It meant, not him' then Nick laughs because he sees through it and asks her sarcastically 'did you pick up on that?' ... Why??? She created the story with her assumptions that not only was Cam triggered (he could've been but know way her for to actually KNOW this) , but she knew why he was triggered, and it was nothing more than because Cam wanted her lol.
@clarkpetion305 two things can be true at the same time. Maybe there is some element to her being performative. I dont know. She doesn't deny that she is a work in progress like we all are. I am not here to argue what her true intentions. However someone like myself who loves personal development and getting to understand the inner workings of my own trauma and when someone gives me some ah haa moment to move forward in my life, it's almost a high giddy feeling. I know the more I shed my trauma the more I can step into my authentic freeing self and that is what I was able to recognize that part of her in that moment. She will mess up and life will correct her as long as she is committed to doing her work. I am not her to tear her down.
@kala9907 I am definitely not in the biz of trying to tear anyone down ESPECIALLY a black women. What I'm tired of seeing is black women getting the short end of the stick while time goes by chasing their accolades to make up for the emptiness and loneliness they aren't vulnerable enough to admit that they're feeling. I understand why they do it. It just doesn't really solve anything.
@@clarkpetion305haha so true. For her to land on the conclusion that “he’s just mad because he doesn’t want me” is so convenient and childish haha
@@clarkpetion305black women journeys on their evolution is not your issue to bear. Focus on what brings you joy. God will reveal to us black women what we need to do next for our own growth.
Accountability and transparency it's a lot of us either know someone or has some type of mental disorder and the only way to move through is to address it first, seek the help to heal it and progress through it all. The age of awakening is here and I am here for it. Love and healing on your journey
You can tell Nick is a good person. No matter his struggles…
He does seem like a cool friend and a good person but he seems like poison for a woman. As long as you not dating him you’re safe
Who hurt you. @@jonestacara
Narcissists don't struggle because they make everyone around them struggle... and with his stupid fake ass smile? He's def got a psycho vibe to him
Such an important conversation to be had … cudos to Nick for his leadership and vulnerability … I hope the ones that need to hear this receive it from a healing perspective
Anytime I see Dr Bryant I am here for it ❤
I’ve been this for years about people not changing and all my friends thought I was crazy because I didn’t have the right words mines were you just hopefully become a better version of yourself but you are who you are and the real you will come out when faced with adversity, but hopefully in your growth it will a difference in how you handle it
What I love about Nick is that he is not afraid to have difficult discussions about personal topics. 😊 Great job! 👏 👏
Oh im so grateful for this conversation. Acknowledging and addressing the way we contribute to our own healing is such a breath of fresh air. I love it. I was in a relationship with a narcissist that refuses to acknowledge how hes traumatized me and our children. Our house is broke but my home is far from broken. My children and I are at peace and thats my biggest flex.
Very Deep episode. Dr Bryant and Nick Cannon eloquently speak clearly on the subject of mental health. I learned a lot about myself during this episode!
I love this kind of talk! I really hope and pray that Nick continues to engage with Dr Bryant because she brings the best out of him! Nick is a very intelligent man. I didn't appreciate the decision he made but I'm glad he's owning up to it.
Im here after her Breakfast Club interview 😂Dr Bryant is good to listen and I like the "low function and high functioning" conversations and the "Shifting" not changing concept.
Me too!! Came straight here after watching her on TBC. Great conversations.. I respect her & all that she’s saying.
@creamycazz1 100 percent
Owning narcissistic behavior doesn't negate it, still need deliverance. JESUS saves ✝️
Jesus saves from what?
from EVERYTHING He NEVER intended to keep us bound or struggle from!!! HALLELUJAH!!!
@@BeautyLoves88 what was the reason to bound us and make us struggle to begin with?
@@sealedindictment Jesus never did that. satan did.
@@sealedindictment
from an eternity of damnation; eternity in hell; lake of fire
...from narcissism which is sin - for those who place their faith in Jesus the Christ are set free from being a slave to the flesh
Black folks don't like to talk about mental health but we suffer from it Yess Salute to you Nick Cannon baby 11/10/24
Huh?
This was REALLY good. I don't vibe with some of the replacement terminology BUT I love this conversation surrounding what hard work looks and sounds like when you're really working on yourself
Great episode! Nick and Cam seem to be remixing how some African civilizations lived.
Being an African , let me point out that there are ancient African ways of living where one man fathered kids with multiple wives. However, the key word is wives, because everyone lived in the same household/compound.
Kids grew up together, mothers had to sign off on any additional wives, they all shared responsibilities, and the father had his duties under the same roof.
This structure is almost non-existent now.
This is good! You are not too far gone. Take accountability for your actions and then get the help you need❤
Love love love! Keep working Nick my Libra brother! I love her. Could totally be my therapist.
Wow how much you can learn by listening to people talk.🗣️💯🤝🏾💯🗣️
Bravo 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾to Nick and Doctor Bryant, awesome observation, conversation, and regulation.
thank you, I cannot wait the round table conversation with Dr. Umar🔥🔥🔥
With all do respect to Dr Cheyenne and all the good that she is- it sounds like she attracted herself (aka men with the same core wound of abandonment) in the past relationships she referenced. And that likely
played a part in the magnetism of the relationship.
This kind of intense attraction/paradigm is a trauma bond. Where people relate from their wound and not their worth.
The men that she was in relationships with also seemed anxiously attached to her (implied by their unwillingness to assert healthy boundaries with someone who was well practiced in violating boundaries (aka controlling behaviors).
The anxious-avoidant dance is common....
I hope these brothers see, validate and choose to tend to their own trauma/wounds.
This is a very high-level comment! Very few will register this. What’s your take on who people typically end up with. Like attracts like; opposites attract; we marry our mothers? i can’t seem to put my hand on it
The men that she was with were just men..some were perfectly fine. she is broken. Been broken.. thats why she's single. No kids. No family.
Period.
I bet 1000 bucks most of her exes are in amazing healthy marriages with kids right now..
She was the problem
I appreciate this transparent conversation. Much needed.
I see men with multiple babies and baby mamas trying to justify their poor decisions…stop creating these broken homes you’re wrong point blank period
They chose praise him the way your praise single mothers with a whole bunch of baby daddies
Leaving women with children with no intention of building with their mother is irresponsible. Deadbeat dad isn’t the same thing. But the child does miss out in some regard going without both of their parents
@iyannai09 Very true!
I don't understand the difference. A deadbeat dad is considered irresponsible dear.
@@cmichelle6888 I think she is speaking of the difference between a being husband and a being father.
@cmichelle6888 I think the difference is you can be irresponsible while financially taking care of your kids i.e. not a deadbeat. A deadbeat is irresponsible and financially neglectful.
what do you say about Eboni k Williams and others having test tube babies?
Love love love! Keep working Nick my Libra brother!
Great session! Love her energy and her intelligence.
I respect and appreciate everything she is saying, and has said in previous interviews. There is NOTHING wrong with her not having children and to those who have a problem with HER life you need to take a good look within because that’s a YOU problem.
This was so good!!! Loved the element of addressing it right away and not having issues or drama in the community.
Glad to see her back on these platforms. I dont fully agree with all her views but the way Cam disrespected after she left was wrong. Let her have her views. No need for disrespect
Cam is disrespectful in general. He just says it in a way thats not combative so people miss it being disrespectful.
And that's why he's butt hurt and still throwing shots almost two months later lol. She hit a major nerve. @@HappiestBayGoer
Wait wait wait. What did Cam say??
Narcissism exists on a spectrum & we all have it, some more than others. A narcissist will never admit that something is wrong with them. Nick has helped too many ppl & allowed folks to openly criticize & joke about his relationships & career choices to have a severe case of narcissism.
Wow wow wow , Dr. Cheyenne 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 thank you 🙏🏾 mam’
This is such an important conversation 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Good interview! I have so much respect for a man who can state his heart! Good for you both! I am definitely working on it.
Thank you Nick for keeping it lit with substance conversations
I came here from a clickbait headline and I came and sat through the whole damn thing finding so much wisdom and keys to release so many from the thought traps we've been setting from our selves for thousands of years
This conversation makes me feel better❤
“Does This Reality (perception) Serve You?” 🔥
She dishes it, and just proved she could take it. Great episode
I don't care what anyone says... I damn near cried to this interview when Dr. Bryant "SAW" Nick amid his dysfunction as a black man doing only the very BEST he could in developing appropriate coping stretegies toward managing his past mistakes and hiccups previously conducted in ignorance. She acknowledged that he is simply picking up the pieces left behind following the shattering and yet residual effects of white supremacy in america, "seeing" him in his struggle... something most modern-day black women NEVER do...
Kudos to the fine Doc and all she contributes to this powerful conversation 👏 👌. A shining example indeed!!
What is amazing with what has been discussed is that after therapy and learning to sit with myself and ask the uncomfortable questions it has drastically changed my perspective on life. Would love another one of these 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This was such a great conversation. I identify with being a hybrid but I still have work to do.
16:57 I loved how Dr Cheyenne called Nick out and I love how Nick said Dr u added sauce with the no one else matters on that ,
Holla! Dr. Umar. I like the analysis of what Cam said and meant.
As someone who's been watching Umar for over a decade I can't believe that he would attempt analyze someone's personal relationships when he has never brought his children or exes on any platform. I would love to hear from them. If he's, at the least, manupulating the community for over a decade for $$$ for a school that has never opened what do we think the extent of his manipulation of his family is. We already know he lied about his ancestral ties to Frederick Douglass because his real family came out.
I need people to put him on pause until he's held accountable for his own life.
This was good. We need Dr. Spirit on here!
Neither of them are understanding that a true narc has bad intentions. They are not self obsessed they become obsessed with the feeling they get from their prey. Making them feel bad, criticisms, not acknowledging ppl as their own beings..thats narcissistic.
There’s a spectrum.
I can’t wait until the discussion with all three of them!
Nick got Dat coming too America pt 1. Under dat hat😂😂😂😂💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾❤️❤️💯💯🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I love how vulnerable she is
Adding an early comment because the drip is supreme in real time!
I'm dealing with a narcissistic and I gave him exactly what he need to hear......
I did like this episode, Nick was more receptive this time, I'm so glad.
Im at 50 min & she just said something profound for me I had to stop & speak on. We never control anybody else we control our own emotions. That made me think about my abusive & controlling ex. He was not controlling ME bc he can't control me, he was trying to keep from feeling what I was triggering in him. That makes me shift viewing myself as a victim. Wow. I need to sit with that.
Thanks for differentiating: good, healthy, bad and toxic. Self regulating warrior for all the healthy will be mostly good in the long run
He keeps trying to re define the definition of broken home.
Thank you for clarifying. We came from a broken family.
Nick is at it again…. Baby mama loading 😂😂😂
A couple of observations:
1. Nick's jacket is fire.
2. Dr. Bryant plays a lot of semantics with the way she labels things. After a while, the labels lose their value.
3. There is an interesting dichotomy where Nick is very open to the critiques, however the attention he receives in being picked apart may actually feed his narcissism.
Nothing can lose value
If it is indeed valuable it only gains value through out time.
The question would be what is valuable to you personally not the weight and value of what's being said. In my opinion.
Number three is spot on. Any attention is good attention to Nick. As long as it is all about him.
3. was a great observation
I actually agree with this
keep going…they’re both just stroking each other’s “egos”
43:05 I need to see Cheyenne & Umar do a podcast episode together whether it’s on Nick Cannon’s or Cam Newton’s podcast.
Yes, maybe on Shannon Sharpes show.
I can do all things through Christ that strengthens me is more about Christ strength and ability than our own strength and ability. I’m able to do what I do because of the strength of Christ at operation within me.
on the issue of abandonment...it's aslo key to see if values align
This is such a mature conversation. I love to see it. Props to nick.
That was a great session for both of them and myself as well,thanks Doc and Nick