8 Things Men Should NEVER Wear to the Office
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00:00 NEVER Wear to the Office Introduction
How we present ourselves at work sends an important message -- to our peers, employers, and clients, about how we view our company and how we view ourselves. This presentation is especially significant in office environments in which you work collectively with other members of your company.
01:30 1. Wrinkled Clothes
Wrinkled or unkempt clothing can give the impression that you can't handle the finer points of your appearance, aren’t detailed oriented, and perhaps aren’t good at time management.
02:29 2. Excessively Casual (or Formal!) Clothing
Excessively casual clothing can imply that you don’t take your job seriously and that you yourself are not a serious person. It also implies that you lack the common sense to understand basic dress codes and standards of dress.
05:13 3. Anything Divisive or Vulgar
Sporting clothing that features divisive language or obscenities can unnecessarily turn people against you, potentially alienating your bosses and coworkers or upsetting clients.
06:29 4. Anything That Impedes your Work (or Others')
Clothing or accessories that make it difficult for you or others to get things done. Fussy clothing would be an obvious offender. You should also be very aware of anything that might annoy or distract your coworkers.
07:24 5. Excessive Fragrance
Strong odors can be very distracting and perhaps irritating or nauseating to others. Fragrances that you wear at work should be subtle.
08:02 6. Excessively Trendy or Flashy Clothing
Over-the-top clothing doesn’t belong at the office. Modish garments or accessories could give the impression that you’re compensating for something by being excessively showy. And contemporary fashion in particular tends to be very distracting.
09:14 7. Style Blunders
It's essential that you avoid making style errors that could diminish others’ opinions of you and contribute to the assumption that someone who can’t avoid style mistakes is also likely to mess up elsewhere.
11:27 8. Anything that Doesn't Help You Look Your Best
How you dress directly impacts how you feel at work and how others perceive you. So it only makes sense to invest time and energy into building a work wardrobe that works for you while you work.
12:45 Outfit Rundown - Навчання та стиль
I've worked in an extremely informal environment in the science/tech sector for years, and I was stunned by the change in the way my supervisor treated me when I transitioned to wearing business casual. It was subconscious of course, and I was the ONLY one wearing khakis and button down shirts. But it made a serious difference.
I work in a data center and the dress code/office uniform is very informal. Untucked polos, jeans and sneakers. And when it’s cold everyone wears hoodies. I’m just starting on my journey of changing how I dress so I might start tucking in my polo and changing up my shoes. Something stylish, classy yet comfortable. Thank you for the great video!
I work for an extremely successful tech company. The 20-somethings I work with wear EVERYTHING on your list and beyond. And it’s not only acceptable, it’s celebrated. I’m in my early 50s and I wear business casual and they look at me like I AM wearing a tux. It is so upside down and backwards, you have no idea.
I wish more companies were like that, it's business casual at my office.
@@NoSirNotTodayOrTomorrow I disagree. I find it difficult to take someone seriously who’s wearing a t-shirt with video game characters and Crocs. Dress like a toddler and you should be treated like one.
@@terrydrums I see your point lol
Completely sympathise with you. See my post above. Age 59. Been working from home since 2002 now back in an office and upside down and backwards is how it feels. Problem is how to dress for the formal meetings with high up managers (who have less experience than me) and the low down young thrusting types who have fathers younger than me.
People dress like slobs. I loved dressing for occasions and those days are over. I’ve been out to dinner and I saw dudes wearing shorts and tank tops. Wear a tux to the opera? Not anymore.
I'll never understand the "I can't dress well because I'm expected to be creative" narrative. Why does wearing socks or tucking your shirt in impede your brain function?
Nailed it 💥💯
EDIT: the following is not necessarily my own opinion but rather my conjecture about creative subculture.
Different factors that might play into this:
1. Not following rules: Creative people are more likely to be eccentric, individualists or outcasts, not mainstream going with the flow, their dress style reflects that willingness to not adhere to rules.
2. Tribalism: Dress codes, especially traditional office dress codes, are pretty rigid and as the name spells out traditional which is the exact opposite of the outside of the box, rule-breaking ideals of creatives. "The boring gray masses" are what creatives despise and in a way dress codes are a very visual symbol of that.
3. Product over people: Depending on the field there is also very much a focus on what's being created, that's what matters; when judging people you should judge their work and not themselves, therefore there's not much need to put any effort in developing your appearance.
There are surely other factors I'm forgetting or not seeing. Creative fields tending to be be low-paid might also be a factor?
@@kokonots7311 "Creativity" didn't suddenly spring up as a concept in the last 20 years. People have been creative for tens of thousands of years, many wearing something other than flip flops and pajamas. Not all progress in human history was accomplished by sartorial iconoclasts. Einstein and Tesla thought outside the box while somehow managing to wear long pants. But by your own argument, dressing well shouldn't diminish your work product, which is the point.
On a side note, this is an odd place to suggest that there is not much need to put any effort into your appearance. This is a channel dedicated to why it's important to put effort into your appearance.
I’ve worn a nice shirt and blazer almost every day since middle school, and I’ve always thought it made me feel more creative and confident, but Ive always enjoyed wearing nice clothes so maybe it’s just me 🤷♂️
@@kokonots7311 being creative is not so much about boundary breaking, but working within certain limitations in a creative way. Often those limitations are an inspiration because they force you to think "inside a box". I feel that this side of creativity is often overlooked, we usually have a medium to work with that severely limits what we can do.
Personally I've been interested in a more classical men's style just because it's another medium to be creative within. "Wear anything you want" isn't really that creative approach, because it doesn't adhere to a style. Yes, art can be a mix and match of styles, but very often it actually follows a certain style and only mixes when it matches.
Agree with it all except the “never wear black or plain socks” rule. I agree something more stylish is better, but you state the rule as though it’s a faux pas to wear them. It’s boring, maybe, but not a fashion error.
I concur
I wear brown or black cowboy boots with matching belt.
No one sees my socks.
I got to help rewrite my office’s dress code. I was invited to the committee because I’m famous at my office for being the most “dressed up,” (I work in SoCal, and the fact that I wear a sport coat means that I’m the most conservatively dressed person in the office. Our problem was that they wanted a dress code that would work for the C Suite all the way down to people who work outside all day. I learned why Business Casual became the bland overlord of corporate dress codes rather quickly!
Oh yeah, I’m from SoCal as well and just wearing a sports coat immediately makes you stand out compared to everyone else. Multiple times a day I’ll get people asking me why I’m in a suit, to which I’ll explain the difference
We don’t have a “dress code” in my office. I work in a Fortune 100 financial firm. However, I think there is something to be said about keeping a high standard and elevating those around you. It’s been refreshing to see my peers dress better and feel more confident.
No need for a dress code but the best dressed and most networked man will get promoted
@@marcusbrown188 I love that perspective. Thankfully, I’m in a service industry so I don’t have to rely on promotions, but it does speak volumes to the kind of financial practice I own/operate.
Close your eyes and repeat the matra, "Patagonia patagonia pantagonia ".
Every company that I have worked for had a dress code, either written or just culture. One company was a fire alarm/sprinkler company and they didn't allow jeans, so I wore work pants (which are tougher and more comfortable than jeans anyway). Another company I wore the workpants but they wanted jeans only (which I hated after wearing the work pants for years). Another company, offshore oil, required office staff to wear the company uniform of yellow flame retardant shirt and pants. The company I'm with now requires suit and tie, which was a pleasant surprise when I was passed the company dress code.
I Can tell each of the GG hosts have their own style within classic menswear:
Preston- Full on Classic menswear and vintage style.
Raphael- Classic but more conservative.
Kyle- Business Classic.
Nathan- Modern Classic, using sneakers and all.
Great work as always. I’d definitely be interested in seeing a “What to Wear as a Teacher” video. There’s a lot of ambiguity in the dress codes school districts use, if they have one.
I am an automotive repair technician, and this was absolutely excellent.
I will be sharing this with many people.
How do you dress up a work uniform?
@Ethan Smith
Just because I work in a dirty environment doesn't mean I need to look bad .
And after work, we can dress nicely also.
And what I most liked about this is I do have many friends that do not work in my industry that can benefit from this information too.
I like dressing up formaly to my uni
At the start they thought i was a prep or some rich brat. But they got to know me and realized i'm a pretty down to earth guy, i just like suits that's all
our office still sends people home for dressing too down and if you took a bath in perfume/cologne. Neat business casual to full suits are still the norm and nobody blinks an eye at full getup.
Man, I work in video game development and everyone wears some sort of nerdy shirt, hoodie, shorts, flipflops, etc. Some of the dudes I work with do not smell good either and spend more money on "collectible" superhero toys then what they wear. Me coming in with a cardigan might be too dressy.
The Batman shirt would definitely not be appropriate if you worked in the office at Marvel Comics.
Why did the editor choose to include an image of Preston using a neck tie as a belt in “bad style rules that you can avoid.” ??
That’s a great choice of style!
While the nod to Fred Astaire's famous style choice is good for everyday casual wear, it can be a distracting feature at the office
@@gentlemansgazette Thank you for the response, that makes total sense!!
Used to work in a call center. First day I was introduced to a supervisor wearing SpongeBob pajama pants. 😳
Currently working from home may be going back into the office soon, thanks for the video
Good to have you back!
Nice to hear a nod to the Oles out there! Poor Gusties!!🤣
I once had a business partner who would wear workout clothing to the office. He and his wife did own a gym, but our business was a law firm. My other partner and I had to tell him on several occasions that if we had clients coming in that he should be wearing at least a dress shirt and pants. It was really embarrassing, as I usually wear a sport coat and tie as a minimum to the office.
Outdress everyone if you're in a toxic workplace. One way to win with zero confrontation required. Having zero F's is of course a prerequisite.
Preston went to Gustavus Adolphus? Not many people in the PNW have heard of it, but I had a good friend in high school who went there. He loved the school too.
I often forget to like, but when I caught sight of the unmentionables I was abruptly knocked out of my resting state. Well done. You got me. 😂
Thanks for hitting that like button! We'll go easy on you in future videos 😉
I don't work in an office but I'm a trucker.
So my unofficial dress code is steel toe boots, jeans no rips or tears. Plain TeeShirt or collared shirt tucked in
Hair neat. Some customers are chemical plants and require clean shaven (for respirators) but that's rare.
The unprofessional ones wear flipflops
Shorts sweats taky tee-shirts have BO.
Jogging outfits.
It's funny I worked for a bank we were mostly back office so not customer facing and all the stuff you described as not acceptable was basically the dress code. Honestly wearing a Hawaiian shirt might have been a bit too formal for them.
It certainly is nice to see men dress sharp. But coming from country which has high temps all year round kinda makes it abit difficult. Maybe an idea for a video?
We've got you covered! www.gentlemansgazette.com/summer-hot-weather-outfits/?
@@gentlemansgazette niceee
Brilliant.
Please do a video when you go vintage shopping! I like the videos you already made about buying at thrift stores and shopping at ebay. Also can't you do a video going indepth into the style of JJ Gittes in the movie Chinatown? And maybe one video into the clothes of the film LA Confidential? That would be really inetresting.
This is serious, Kyle the Style is here
John DeLorean was a case study in breaking organizational customs with respect to dress. That might be worthy of a video itself. Maybe pair that story with Frank Lloyd Wright and other big time visionaries who deliberately sought to distinguish themselves from the herd with clothing.
Two cardinal rules about fragrance: 1.) Apply a meager amount and stick to the same method forever (Never wear more than you did the first time)! 2.) Never apply to clothing (Get dressed after applying fragrance).
Why
I agree with almost everything here, but I will say that I genuinely believe that the whole “no belt with a waistcoat” is a silly rule and doesn’t actually harm your style
A vest that fits you well is designed to fit close to your hips, so wearing a belt underneath creates an unsightly bulge: www.gentlemansgazette.com/men-waistcoats-odd-vest-how-to-wear/?
@@gentlemansgazette If I don't wear a belt, my pants fall down.
@@mysterythecat971 Try suspenders, I suppose
@@gentlemansgazette Oh. Well I suppose that makes sense. I didn’t think about that.
I like working in the office.
I'm a service technician. So button down shirt, or polo, and dark khakis or non faded black jeans. Or more simply it's business casual that can get dirty being aware I could be on a construction site, followed by a law office, then a warehouse, all in one day.
No ties, for safety.
5:19 - That tie and collar! LOL
I may not be Batman. But if I was, Gentleman's Gazette videos are diffidently in my utility belt.
Other than the point with belts, I agree with this advice. A belt used purely only to carry a pistol for defense can be acceptable (when appropriate). Many holsters are only able to be fitted onto a belt while keeping a modicum of elegance in your lines. I’ve tried to put the holster on my suspenders, but it causes too much bulk.
Amazing
Belts are fine.
Well, not exactly many people carry firearms in the office while sporting a waistcoat, so I do not see what is your point here. 😂
I moved from a Glock 19 as my EDC, to a Glock 43 for similar reasons. Except for metal detectors, I could deep conceal anywhere. That said, I survived a pat down by night club security with my G19 a few years back 🌚
it takes some work to incorporate a carry rig with everyday attire. I carry a mid-size Sig P250 (similar size to G19) and a good belt and holster (IWB) are mandatory if that’s how you carry. Fortunately there are many great makers, but there are also lots of duds. Be deliberate and ask around, take your time and you will discover your preferences. Stay strapped.
Always polished shoes.
I'd love you to address men's wear in the virtual work place. I see many choosing to dress down since (ie white t-shirts) they're working from home. Any thoughts?
point 3. I pretty much have no t shirts or shirts that have writing on them, I've always noted that they're too juvenile in any setting.
the only exception are shirts that mean something to me, so football tees, and shirts promoting something I believe in
most of my t shirts that have writing i mostly wear for workout clothes or pjs
I work as teacher and love to use sports coats, but I also drive a motorcycle, so i have to match leather boots with said coats. I could have a pair of shoes over there, but then again, i ride with protective jeans or jeans under knee protection
5:57 that was a good choice of both shirt and phrasing
I will a suit every day when I go out on the town
Can tell us what you are to wear at GG, since sometimes I see you wearing very casual and sometimes very formal.
I'm so curious since I want to know what expect
those comedy tshirts are hilarious - I will dare workmates to wear them ;-) makes the time go faster haha.
And always know the culture of ur office dress according to that if ur in a office where casual clothing is acceptable you can wear these thing but do not wear flip flops
Never wear flip flops or pajama bottoms!!
Plese tell me the kind of watch which perston wear it in this video
At 10:00, I disagree a bit. This is a classic Ivy look. I don't think most people care about sock color, unless it's neon green or something ridiculous.
It's recently having a moment of popularity for casual Ivy looks, but stark white socks against dark business clothing can be quite distracting
I would never wear flip flops. I don't even wear them outside my room.
Good video, but don't assume tech companies frown upon running shorts and a t-shirt. They don't. It's in fact encouraged by the culture of the enviornment. Suits, on the other hand, are silently criticized and viewed as out of date. Tech culture is almost snobish about dressing as minimally, casually and sometimes even as sloppy as possible. It's a bit of a little flex to flaunt how cheap your clothes are compared to the paycheck everyone knows you have. The well-dressed are the dissidents in those circles.
Consistency helps in making something "your style" without it seeming like it's out of place. Wear something long enough and people start to associate it with you. It has to be deliberate though.
I remember being 12 years old in middle school and telling the teacher who was wearing a waistcoat that he ruined his outfit. First of all, he wore a belt with suspenders, 2nd of all, he Had the bottom button of his vest unbuttoned, 3rd of all. The guy's shirt was wrinkled. He had probably just picked up a suit randomly that was affordable and worn it without the knowledge of classic menswear.
In the trucking industry graphic tee and jeans is mostly worn and lot worse I observed I been trucking 15 years now and I feel overdressed in chinos and long sleeve dress shirts and newsboy and fedora hats plus wrist watch with leather strap
I don’t wear big logos or anything that draws attention to myself for the wrong reasons
My expectations are not high, but I will hand out a warning if I see consistent slovenly or overly casual dress-shorts, tee shirts, flip flops, track suits, ripped clothes, yoga pants, and anything with slogans. Suits, standard smart casual, and heritage clothing are all fine.
Most people just look like clowns these days.
Just put on the suit.
Dressing in a classic men's style comes with a huge warning. You never want to look as though you've just stepped out of a Hollywood costume department. You also want to avoid too many patterns and colors in one outfit or it comes as clownish. Especially with socks, or you'll look like circus act. It's okay to dress with a slight hit from a period in time, but do not overdo it. Do so with one element and leave the rest simple, timeless, and classic.
You got it! That's exactly what we talk about here: www.gentlemansgazette.com/vintage-goods-classic-style/?
My boss wears black sneakers, jeans and a shirt to the office. Unless there's an external person (e.g. client) coming, no one is expected to wear a suit. Some even wear flip flops with socks (probably one of the most German things to do).
like thong flip flops pr slides.?
@@Reverend_Salem
Some wear common "Hauspuschen" , especially in the office in Dresden. As for the office in Hamburg, some even wear sliders and some wear "Adiletten"...
And then there's me with Redwing boots stomping across the hallway ^^
You are totally wrong about tech companies not being ok with t shirts and shorts with flip flops. Those v are completely ok in tech
Couldn't imagine anyone that would wear an Eat the Rich shirt would be in interested in classic style. 🙂
Scam call centers in India should keep these points on mind haha
I do not wear cufflinks to work and also never a non-white shirt
Just don't do any of these things anywhere is some good advice. Its always better to be overdressed than underdressed.
Tuxedo and white tie at the office here i come!
I wear whatever I want at the office cause I'm the boss an owner of of 2 successful companies.
I appreciate the caveat at the start. Working in the creative industry, dress codes are always very lax...to the point that at one studio, the only thing under dress code was 'must wear pants' due to one marketing person that said he did his best thinking in his boxers, had his own office with no windows, and at the time it was only men employed there. He just happened to step out at one point while a client was coming through. Kilts, dresses, whatever were fine as long as something over underwear.
That said, great video as always.
Nobody really wears a tie at work anymore...kind of sucks
Never liked collar bars, with a spread collar
This video could also be named ‘let me advertise a lot of other videos without actually telling one anything’
I am conflicted about the belt and waistcoat, because I know it is suboptimal style. On the other hand, I need something to support the weight of a Glock 43 🤷♂️
Then again, the average person's attention to detail is abysmal. It's not like anyone notices the little black plastic clips from a tuckable holster even when the shirt is tucked in.
Johnson, Lautner, Le Corbousier, etc. had a sense of style in all areas. How would they dress in 2023?
These days, almost any clean, semi-decent outfit can be office wear.
Wait…why is a shark skin suit considered evening wear? I own a light gray shark skin suit and to me it is more an ultra casual suit.
A lot of sharkskin suits are intended to reflect the light in a way that lends itself to eveningwear, rather than the more sombre traditional business suit
Is it appropriate for men to wear untucked semi formal shirts to the office on a Friday? Or even a formal half sleeve shirt left untucked?
it depends on the office enviroment.
if you are unsure tuck it in.
We got suspenders in the Thumbnail, now we need a separate video on them please!
Stay tuned!
@@gentlemansgazette Thank you!
Good to see the pink “heartbeat of america”..eh..what have you…getting some more screen time
More formal jeans :-)
is wearing a tweed suit, in a modern cut considered to be unappropiste for the office. Based on the tips of the video it sounds like it does. I mean given its a conservative UK organisation, there are loads who dont dress up. So am i considered distracting for dressing to the nines. Either way, I dont care. As long as its a two piece traditional suit, whether its tweed or not, that doesnt matter as the effort counts. I would find it weirder to wear a navy suit when no one in my team wears a suit despite earning loads for one. Do you feel me? So for instance if the ceo doesnt wear a necktie, then I can get away without wearing one, but making the rest of my outfit overlly formal. Its about getting a feel about how you come across.
Most of these item you should never wear!
10:36 You can't do this unless you're the Swedish Minister of Finance!
While the phrasing sounded very Insecure Man in spots, the motivation is to look good not to conform, the advice is good if dated in its approach.
Is the issue with the jacket at 9:30 sizing? It looks fine otherwise
sleeves too short i guess
@@comicbookguy2326makes sense
I’d never wear gym chlothes to the office. Besides that, my environment is pretty casual.
If you're a man, don't wear a dress to the office.
The only thing I have against dress codes in companies is that, at least in my industry, IT consulting, many people follow suit just to pretend they're good at what they're doing. Countless are the times that I almost completely recoded something made by what we called "suits" while wearing just jeans and a plain t-shirt.
That being said, I enjoy walking the middle path for this matter and dress "a little bit more" so to speak. And I think I would never wear a hawaiian shirt even if it's the Hawaiian shirt Friday, that's for sure.
So many people really need to watch and follow these videos as it is unbelievable how bad people are dressing. Do not know why tech people have to look like they just got out of bed. -I always mock then, and say we can push the next meeting so they can manage to get out of bed AND dressed. Indicating it is not a PJ party.
Dress up for the position you want not the position your in
How about no fragrance? I like things to smell: flowers, a good cup of coffee, a nice scotch, a fine cigar, etc. Polluting the air at work and assaulting the noses of people who can't avoid it is both rude and deleterious to our ability to smell those other things. Worse, some scents are only adding to a host of chemicals that are bad for us in the long term.
There isn't anything wrong with wearing a belt with a waistcoat. If they can see your belt buckle, they can see your pant button. I cannot fathom why you would prefer someone to see your trouser buttons rather than a belt buckle. It's the same with your single-breasted suit coat - the belt will peak out the bottom. Either you're covertly implying that people shouldn't wear belts or you're making a nonsensical point.
Any time you wear a single-breasted vest or coat, the belt will likely be partially visible. It's the nature of that type of garment.
Agreed - but most modern dress pants are MUCH too low. Wear higher rise trousers with a waistcoat and it will be impossible to see your pants button.
@@dandiehm8414 I have to believe that if your vest doesn't cover your belt buckle when standing, it's probably too short. Or, as you said, you are wearing extremely low-rise pants.
The whole concept of not wearing a belt with a vest just doesn't seem to be grounded in any practical reasoning.
A vest that fits you well is designed to fit close to your hips, so wearing a belt underneath creates an unsightly bulge: www.gentlemansgazette.com/men-waistcoats-odd-vest-how-to-wear/?
Most of these shouldn't have to be said, which why saying them again?
Obviously the first bit about dressing the way THEY dress in office and dressing the way you want can be contradictory if the rest the office is lazy slobs AND yes, maybe I AM better than but just don't come out and say it, though? Har-har.
Wrong Gekko clip bonus, tho: You can't come in here looking like that.
Throwing out a jacket instead of thrift store or resale?
A lot of people think a sport jacket IS a suit now, so it really is just a matter of picking one with a more conservative design.
100% politics and moral/religious fashions statements should out of an everyday workplace. That includes, much to some people disappointment, rainbow pins.
tshirts with messages on should be banned anywhere
Ok Boomer
I can't believe that my kids middle and high schools have "Pajama Day." Kids are learning from a young age that looking like a slob is OK. Oh, those are tax funded public schools.....
Think of it this way: every other day is Non-Pajama Day. If kids want to wear their jammies to school, fine, but they are learning that they have to wait until whatever random Friday the school chooses as the day they can do so. Otherwise, they have to wear something more appropriate. Knowing that there is a time and a place for everything but also knowing what those times and places are, and abiding by that occasion's ground rules, is a good lesson.