I haven’t even started playing piano that long ago and I mainly play simple short songs. Now whenever I hear a note it reminds me of one of these songs and therefore I know the note.
There are a group of molecules called SNPs that are responsible for solidifying abstract constructs like color or pitch in the brain and they are only produced in the body in very young ages (usually before 3). These molecules are the reason of neuroplasticity. If they don’t teach a child the concept of color by that age, they will never know what colors are. They can differentiate between them but they don’t know what they are differentiating. Just like the majority of the people who don’t have absolute pitch can differentiate between the notes but they don’t know what pitch they are hearing. There is a tribe in Ivory Coast that its people don’t have names for colors. So they don’t know what color is. Having perfect pitch is like knowing colors by heart. we can think of a certain color for instance “red” the moment we hear the name, without a context or reference. Also each color has its own subjective characteristics for us. For example yellow is bright and young or blue is calm and soothing. People with absolute pitch feel each note differently in their brain. It’s like a tickling sensation in the back of the head between the two ears. Each pitch touches a different part and it has a different feeling. For instance F# is very twangy and is indeed the sharpest among all (that’s why most of car horns are in F#). These people can imagine any note in their mind without a reference and each note has its own characteristics. So although not impossible, it’s very rare that someone can discover the sense of what pitch means later in life. Because the people who have absolute pitch cannot describe how they feel it (just as we cannot describe how we are able to distinguish colors) and the ones without it don’t know what they are looking for exactly. For the people with absolute pitch it is really surprising that we cannot distinguish pitches! They are so obviously different for them. These are based on my own personal research for 20 years…
That’s super interesting and I’d never thought about how we perceive colours and how similar it is. I know there is probably an element of synesthesia involved. I know that I feel different notes differently and sometimes it’s very obvious based on how it feels, but I think that’s through association and reinforcing them with my life of practice…I can very much see how those that have perfect pitch can feel the notes really clearly with your analogy! 😊
@@matticawood yea man! There is a video about colors and how those people in Ivory Coast don’t have colors in their language (Wobè) expect dark and bright!! So dark blue or purple or brown is just Kpé means dark! If you give them a pink card and ask them to find the flowers with the same color they can find the flowers but they don’t know what they are matching! If it sounds crazy think about how non-absolute pitch people can voice out a certain note after they hear it, but don’t know what note it is!
Very good comments, and observations, I totally agree. I don't possess perfect pitch, but managed to learn pitch memory. I have done a lot of reading about it, and it interests me a lot. I am especially interested in child's early musical developement. Are You a professional on the subject? I would like to exchange some views, if possible. Regards Jack
@@jackkurasik8371 I'm glad you found my comment useful. I don't pursue the subject as my profession; but I have done a lot of research. And sure! You can ask me anything and I'd be glad to help.
One of my earliest memories is of there being someone at my house tuning our piano, and I distinctly heard a C being played. I thought for sure it was middle C, I was kind of fixated on that note because of its significance in the very very basic song(s?) I was learning. It was actually one octave up. I think I have true perfect pitch but only for select few notes, maybe even only C. That’s the one note that’s still consistent and instinctive for me even after a couple years of very little musical activity to reinforce the pitch memorization and relative pitch trickery I definitely had been employing before.
When ever I learn a piece, I remember the sound of the first note and can replicate it even after not playing the piece was. So I guess I have pseudo perfect pitch. Great video
Ever heard of Yamaha’s Junior Music Course and Junior Music Extension Course? I developed quasi-perfect pitch from that training. Many of my friends did as well.
I certainly will try this out. I don’t think I have perfect pitch, but I didn’t tried it really. I have trouble to find the notes if they are played on another instrument, or are part of a chord. The same tone sounds different then.
Reminds me of the pause when someone is translating a language in their head. I like the idea of learning various songs to develop relative pitch though. It seems like you did yourself, and all of us, a favour to go through this exercise and share it. I'm hopeful that if you were able to improve that much in 24 hours, i might be able to gradually improve over 12 months or so. Lol
I have kinda pseudo-absolute pitch. In that, I can recognise a few notes, for me it's Bb and D, but I haven't got very good relative pitch yet. But once .I develop that I will have pseudo AP. I know for definite because I accidentally bashed my empty water bottle with my leg as I was walking with it, and it rang out a Bb, which I recognised then proved against my piano.
If you want a proper test, I would highly recommend doing Tenutos ear training, because you can jump between octaves and this is what most people have trouble with. Once you have to work out notes in varying octaves, you can't rely on relative pitch. This however is coming from someone who was born with Perfect pitch. Also, you claimed 'relative pitch is more useful'... which is erroneous. It isn't more useful... it's more achievable sure, but it is no more useful than perfect pitch, and perfect pitch in itself is a step beyond relative pitch because you don't need to try and relate the notes to one another, NOR do you need a reference note in the first place.
Il check it out! I’ve not found octave differences to be too much of an issue in the past, but it would be definitely interesting to see. I’m not sure I agree on it not being more useful. Relative pitch requires understanding note relationships, scales, intervals and chords and general theory (which I would argue is more useful). Perfect pitch doesn’t require the knowledge to recognise the notes 😊
@@matticawood i’d argue that, because one has Perfect Pitch, they understand the relationship between chords, scales, intervals far quicker than anyone with a relative pitch. It’s almost as instant as recognising the note, and for most people with perfect pitch, it’s instantaneous and can usually do it without having to logistically think about it. It’s just innate to them.
As soon as you have one note right, the rest is just relative pitch. To test if you have perfect pitch, you should take a break of a week, then try other sounds like striking a metal rod, or a glass and immediately tell what pitch it is.
It's been 11 months, if you had trained this everyday, do you think you would of have mastered recalling notes in any octave and different timbres by now? Very interesting video though I thoroughly enjoyed it.
10:00 I just make music as a hobby and still have to work on my relative pitch. But regarding your test, the first four notes (C,D,G) where from a common major scale, then the fifth and sixth were not. I strongly heard that, as they sounded off. I think with a strong relativ pitch/tonal hearing you would be able to tell the note, just from hearing the first four. So, basically, the only real "absolute" answer is the first note (which you got right, so congratulations btw!). Maybe a better test would be to guess several notes over a span of maybe 30min or so than in a row.
People with AP don't have a reference point- they have twelve of them in their memory banks. 😉 The problem with your 'test' is that if you get the first note right then all of the following notes, by definition, have a reference point or 'anchor note.' So it is 'relative' after the first pitch- and if you get the first pitch wrong then all the rest will be wrong.
Perfect pitch is practically useless in music unless you want to impress the babes. Some of the best songwriters of modern times can't even read sheet music. Most producers don't know the basics of music theory. No need chasing that illusive dream. Concentrate on music itself.
Its basically developing perfect pitch for only one note and still using relative pitch to find the rest....not that anyone should care really...relative pitch is incomparably the most useful out of the two anyway....
I have absolute pitch. I use it mostly when I sing with my choir and it is also pretty nice to have when you’re also a composer and you can just pull melodies from nowhere.
Why do You even bother to put such a nonsense title to your video? I would have watched it, but I have been put off by this nonsense title. Have some respect for the readers, viewers intelligence.
Not a nonsense title at all…the title represents exactly what I attempted in the video and understanding whether it is possible is part of that journey and question in the video based on studies suggesting it is in fact possible to develop…also developing pseudo perfect pitch is a form of perfect pitch in any case…if you haven’t watched it, then you can’t comment on if the title is representative of the video.
@@matticawood OK I didn't mean to offenf You. I am also very committed to the subject of perfect pitch in the last 2 years. I heve read a lot of articles on the subject, and watched a lot of videos. I am especially interested in the early musical education for children. I do practice it myself. Yes, if one tries to learn pitch recognition in 24 hour period, there could be good results, depending on an individual commitment, focus, and general brain capacity. Still having all that, it is impossible, that one can retain the recognition ability of some tones, -surely, not all the 12 chromatic tones, for more than a day, after stopping the training, and going back into our everyday life activities. We adults have to practice it regularly everyday, indefinitely. The problem is, that any obstacle that comes along the way, will hinder it a great deal. A depression, a headache, an anxiety or any worries, will cause drawbacks. We just can not keep it naturally in our brains, it's very vague, and temporary. It's only toddlers, that can develop it fully, to be a part of their brain, they just know it instantly. Yes You are right, for us adults it is better called-pitch memory. I would like to talk to You more later if You don't mind. We are both passionate about the same subject. Regards Jack
@@matticawood Hi Matthew, I just thought You were one of those guys, who promise the chicken, that lays golden eggs. There are lots of guys like that around on the Internet, trying too far fetched promises. There is no problem with trying any method for yourself, regardless of other peoples opinion. I still believe in Limitless human brain, that it can achieve anything. Some adults can have that capacity, to come closer to it. We have to belive, first of all, it's the main thing. I have been practicing pitch memory for a year, and it works. I can recall a note, any note at random. The thing is, there is a delay in reaction, cause we need time visualize the pitch. People with perfect pitch, can do it in an instant, without hesitation. There is a certain sensation, that they feel with every note, and that gives them the answer. There are generally two camps out there in the music community of the world. One is pro perfect pitch, and the other anti perfect pitch. There is a lot of abuse in the media, and it comes mainly from the anti perfect pitch camp. Some of them are very rude, blindfolded, without any vision, not open minded at all. We can discuss the topic more, if You wish.
@@jackkurasik8371Jack, this is a year or so later, but I’m around 13 and I found your comment interesting. If musical pitches are like color schemes or language fluency, where exposure sets up the difference between someone who is a fluent (AP for example) and someone who has it as a second language (Relative pitch). What differentiates it is in the thought process, right? One is immediate, like the way I’m typing here right now, the other is a mental translation that ranges from quick to lengthy, but it is not fluent. So, I wanted to ask, did you reach any different conclusions after your studies? Or is there any update on your training? If pitch is like a language isn’t it, in theory, possible to become fluent in after a certain amount of studying?
@@matticawood Hi Sir, I was just scrolling through the comments, I came accross Your reply to my comment in the past, about Your experiment with perfect pitch. You attempted to aquire perfect pitch through a 24 hour set of training. Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to be nasty in any way, I quite admire your courage and determination. I agree with You as well on some aspects of it. I am fond of trying out, despite contrary opinions. I don't have perfect pitch, but I have trained myself for a long time how to recognize pitches without a reference note. It takes time, and is very shaky. It is not as solid as real AP.
I haven’t even started playing piano that long ago and I mainly play simple short songs. Now whenever I hear a note it reminds me of one of these songs and therefore I know the note.
Exactly! It’s a good place to start, you eventually have them engrained in your head 😊
There are a group of molecules called SNPs that are responsible for solidifying abstract constructs like color or pitch in the brain and they are only produced in the body in very young ages (usually before 3). These molecules are the reason of neuroplasticity. If they don’t teach a child the concept of color by that age, they will never know what colors are. They can differentiate between them but they don’t know what they are differentiating. Just like the majority of the people who don’t have absolute pitch can differentiate between the notes but they don’t know what pitch they are hearing. There is a tribe in Ivory Coast that its people don’t have names for colors. So they don’t know what color is. Having perfect pitch is like knowing colors by heart. we can think of a certain color for instance “red” the moment we hear the name, without a context or reference. Also each color has its own subjective characteristics for us. For example yellow is bright and young or blue is calm and soothing. People with absolute pitch feel each note differently in their brain. It’s like a tickling sensation in the back of the head between the two ears. Each pitch touches a different part and it has a different feeling. For instance F# is very twangy and is indeed the sharpest among all (that’s why most of car horns are in F#). These people can imagine any note in their mind without a reference and each note has its own characteristics. So although not impossible, it’s very rare that someone can discover the sense of what pitch means later in life. Because the people who have absolute pitch cannot describe how they feel it (just as we cannot describe how we are able to distinguish colors) and the ones without it don’t know what they are looking for exactly. For the people with absolute pitch it is really surprising that we cannot distinguish pitches! They are so obviously different for them. These are based on my own personal research for 20 years…
That’s super interesting and I’d never thought about how we perceive colours and how similar it is. I know there is probably an element of synesthesia involved. I know that I feel different notes differently and sometimes it’s very obvious based on how it feels, but I think that’s through association and reinforcing them with my life of practice…I can very much see how those that have perfect pitch can feel the notes really clearly with your analogy! 😊
Homie really pulled out the science textbook for this one lol
Amazing explanation!
@@matticawood yea man! There is a video about colors and how those people in Ivory Coast don’t have colors in their language (Wobè) expect dark and bright!! So dark blue or purple or brown is just Kpé means dark! If you give them a pink card and ask them to find the flowers with the same color they can find the flowers but they don’t know what they are matching! If it sounds crazy think about how non-absolute pitch people can voice out a certain note after they hear it, but don’t know what note it is!
Very good comments, and observations, I totally agree.
I don't possess perfect pitch, but managed to learn pitch memory.
I have done a lot of reading about it, and it interests me a lot. I am especially interested in child's early musical developement.
Are You a professional on the subject? I would like to exchange some views, if possible.
Regards Jack
@@jackkurasik8371 I'm glad you found my comment useful. I don't pursue the subject as my profession; but I have done a lot of research. And sure! You can ask me anything and I'd be glad to help.
Yet another underrated video. Editing is perfect, and as a musician, I wish I had perfect pitch for more than three notes. Great job!
Thanks! I appreciate that! I’m not sure how close I got to perfect pitch, but either way I can’t say the hours practicing is worth it 😂
@@matticawood You got pretty darn close in my opinion!
Loved this Matt! Great quality and very entertaining :)
Thanks Sean!! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
WHEN YOU MENTIONED SOMEWHERE FROM WEST SIDE STORY i got surprised i played that in an orchestra recently
I love that song! Its very recognisable and those first two notes are super easy to remember 😊
One of my earliest memories is of there being someone at my house tuning our piano, and I distinctly heard a C being played. I thought for sure it was middle C, I was kind of fixated on that note because of its significance in the very very basic song(s?) I was learning. It was actually one octave up.
I think I have true perfect pitch but only for select few notes, maybe even only C. That’s the one note that’s still consistent and instinctive for me even after a couple years of very little musical activity to reinforce the pitch memorization and relative pitch trickery I definitely had been employing before.
Have you learned relative pitch?
If you get good enough you can probably recognise the other notes from that one c😅
Expecting a lot more views than this, def underrated.
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it 😊
When ever I learn a piece, I remember the sound of the first note and can replicate it even after not playing the piece was. So I guess I have pseudo perfect pitch. Great video
Dedication to the cause Matt!!! Brilliant video.
You know they’re done when they karate chop the key
I was very done 😂
ur so underrated, what a great video
Thank you, I appreciate that and I’m glad you enjoyed the video 😊
Ever heard of Yamaha’s Junior Music Course and Junior Music Extension Course? I developed quasi-perfect pitch from that training. Many of my friends did as well.
I certainly will try this out. I don’t think I have perfect pitch, but I didn’t tried it really. I have trouble to find the notes if they are played on another instrument, or are part of a chord. The same tone sounds different then.
Reminds me of the pause when someone is translating a language in their head.
I like the idea of learning various songs to develop relative pitch though.
It seems like you did yourself, and all of us, a favour to go through this exercise and share it.
I'm hopeful that if you were able to improve that much in 24 hours, i might be able to gradually improve over 12 months or so. Lol
I have kinda pseudo-absolute pitch. In that, I can recognise a few notes, for me it's Bb and D, but I haven't got very good relative pitch yet. But once .I develop that I will have pseudo AP. I know for definite because I accidentally bashed my empty water bottle with my leg as I was walking with it, and it rang out a Bb, which I recognised then proved against my piano.
If you want a proper test, I would highly recommend doing Tenutos ear training, because you can jump between octaves and this is what most people have trouble with. Once you have to work out notes in varying octaves, you can't rely on relative pitch. This however is coming from someone who was born with Perfect pitch.
Also, you claimed 'relative pitch is more useful'... which is erroneous. It isn't more useful... it's more achievable sure, but it is no more useful than perfect pitch, and perfect pitch in itself is a step beyond relative pitch because you don't need to try and relate the notes to one another, NOR do you need a reference note in the first place.
Il check it out! I’ve not found octave differences to be too much of an issue in the past, but it would be definitely interesting to see.
I’m not sure I agree on it not being more useful. Relative pitch requires understanding note relationships, scales, intervals and chords and general theory (which I would argue is more useful). Perfect pitch doesn’t require the knowledge to recognise the notes 😊
@@matticawood i’d argue that, because one has Perfect Pitch, they understand the relationship between chords, scales, intervals far quicker than anyone with a relative pitch. It’s almost as instant as recognising the note, and for most people with perfect pitch, it’s instantaneous and can usually do it without having to logistically think about it. It’s just innate to them.
As soon as you have one note right, the rest is just relative pitch. To test if you have perfect pitch, you should take a break of a week, then try other sounds like striking a metal rod, or a glass and immediately tell what pitch it is.
It's been 11 months, if you had trained this everyday, do you think you would of have mastered recalling notes in any octave and different timbres by now? Very interesting video though I thoroughly enjoyed it.
10:00 I just make music as a hobby and still have to work on my relative pitch. But regarding your test, the first four notes (C,D,G) where from a common major scale, then the fifth and sixth were not. I strongly heard that, as they sounded off. I think with a strong relativ pitch/tonal hearing you would be able to tell the note, just from hearing the first four. So, basically, the only real "absolute" answer is the first note (which you got right, so congratulations btw!).
Maybe a better test would be to guess several notes over a span of maybe 30min or so than in a row.
how the hell is this SO underrated cuz this is so cool
I’m glad you like it!! 😊 underrated is much better than overrated 😂
One billion hours of watching people ramble about perfect pitch on UA-cam and the only good video about, this one, was only watched a few times.
Thank you, I appreciate that and I’m glad you enjoyed it 😊
Yes you did perfect pitch
Great video!!
Thank you!!! 😊
People with AP don't have a reference point- they have twelve of them in their memory banks. 😉
The problem with your 'test' is that if you get the first note right then all of the following notes, by definition, have a reference point or 'anchor note.' So it is 'relative' after the first pitch- and if you get the first pitch wrong then all the rest will be wrong.
this guy is a relative pitch master
Perfect pitch is practically useless in music unless you want to impress the babes. Some of the best songwriters of modern times can't even read sheet music. Most producers don't know the basics of music theory. No need chasing that illusive dream. Concentrate on music itself.
The title is obviously misleading. I would have probably still clicked for "How I trained my relative pitch in 24 hours"
Its basically developing perfect pitch for only one note and still using relative pitch to find the rest....not that anyone should care really...relative pitch is incomparably the most useful out of the two anyway....
pitch memory is what you referred to as Pseudo
but everything is possible
What's the application ??
I cant find the app you used.
Can I get a Shoutout? Your videos are the best matt!
Thanks Evan! You sure can! I’m glad you like my videos 😊
@@matticawood in the next vid?
hi bonjour sawadikap konichiwa hello hallo
HI!! 😀
I have absolute pitch. I use it mostly when I sing with my choir and it is also pretty nice to have when you’re also a composer and you can just pull melodies from nowhere.
Why do You even bother to put such a nonsense title to your video?
I would have watched it, but I have been put off by this nonsense title.
Have some respect for the readers, viewers intelligence.
Not a nonsense title at all…the title represents exactly what I attempted in the video and understanding whether it is possible is part of that journey and question in the video based on studies suggesting it is in fact possible to develop…also developing pseudo perfect pitch is a form of perfect pitch in any case…if you haven’t watched it, then you can’t comment on if the title is representative of the video.
@@matticawood OK I didn't mean to offenf You.
I am also very committed to the subject of perfect pitch in the last 2 years. I heve read a lot of articles on the subject, and watched a lot of videos. I am especially interested in the early musical education for children. I do practice it myself.
Yes, if one tries to learn pitch recognition in 24 hour period, there could be good results, depending on an individual commitment, focus, and general brain capacity. Still having all that, it is impossible, that one can retain the recognition ability of some tones, -surely, not all the 12 chromatic tones, for more than a day, after stopping the training, and going back into our everyday life activities. We adults have to practice it regularly everyday, indefinitely. The problem is, that any obstacle that comes along the way, will hinder it a great deal. A depression, a headache, an anxiety or any worries, will cause drawbacks. We just can not keep it naturally in our brains, it's very vague, and temporary. It's only toddlers, that can develop it fully, to be a part of their brain, they just know it instantly.
Yes You are right, for us adults it is better called-pitch memory.
I would like to talk to You more later if You don't mind.
We are both passionate about the same subject.
Regards Jack
@@matticawood Hi Matthew, I just thought You were one of those guys, who promise the chicken, that lays golden eggs. There are lots of guys like that around on the Internet, trying too far fetched promises. There is no problem with trying any method for yourself, regardless of other peoples opinion.
I still believe in Limitless human brain, that it can achieve anything.
Some adults can have that capacity, to come closer to it.
We have to belive, first of all, it's the main thing. I have been practicing pitch memory for a year, and it works.
I can recall a note, any note at random.
The thing is, there is a delay in reaction, cause we need time visualize the pitch. People with perfect pitch, can do it in an instant, without hesitation. There is a certain sensation, that they feel with every note, and that gives them the answer. There are generally two camps out there in the music community of the world. One is pro perfect pitch, and the other anti perfect pitch. There is a lot of abuse in the media, and it comes mainly from the anti perfect pitch camp. Some of them are very rude, blindfolded, without any vision, not open minded at all. We can discuss the topic more, if You wish.
@@jackkurasik8371Jack, this is a year or so later, but I’m around 13 and I found your comment interesting. If musical pitches are like color schemes or language fluency, where exposure sets up the difference between someone who is a fluent (AP for example) and someone who has it as a second language (Relative pitch). What differentiates it is in the thought process, right? One is immediate, like the way I’m typing here right now, the other is a mental translation that ranges from quick to lengthy, but it is not fluent.
So, I wanted to ask, did you reach any different conclusions after your studies? Or is there any update on your training? If pitch is like a language isn’t it, in theory, possible to become fluent in after a certain amount of studying?
@@matticawood Hi Sir, I was just scrolling through the comments, I came accross Your reply to my comment in the past, about Your experiment with perfect pitch. You attempted to aquire perfect pitch through a 24 hour set of training. Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to be nasty in any way, I quite admire your courage and determination. I agree with You as well on some aspects of it. I am fond of trying out, despite contrary opinions. I don't have perfect pitch, but I have trained myself for a long time how to recognize pitches without a reference note. It takes time, and is very shaky. It is not as solid as real AP.
I think you did develop perfect pitch and the notion that only a few possess it and no one can develop it is nothing more than elitist bullshit.