Same here. Was a teenager when D Rose was making his splash and got pulled into basketball fandom by the 2k11 IOS game of all things. With J. Cole’s underrated basketball track “the plan” as the theme song. Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker were the hot up and coming youngsters soon after. Lebron was already in Miami. Etc. But secret base helps to appreciate basketball history. Wish there was something like this for hockey or baseball. Especially underrated players like Ichiro Suzuki who deserve a spotlight.
@@yurinoworry SAME I was in elementary tho, me and my older brother watched it, mainly raptor games cuz I’m from Canada. But I’m a huge drose fan, I used to watch him every game
I imagine Kareem writing in his journal just him shit-talking, "I didn't get my ass beat by an injured New York Knicks in the Finals bud-that was YOU! I won a FMVP at 36; you was winning them unemployment checks!".
This was pretty one-sided, but I'm only going to address the one about FG%. 1971: Wilt held Kareem to a FG% of .481 in the playoffs. His regular season FG% was .577. 1972: Kareem shot .457 in the playoffs and ,574 in the regular season. That is a substantial difference and this video is being disingenuous about that aspect.
Bruh Fg% drops in playoffs. And it is expected to drop if opposing centre is Wilt. 48 is still great. I'll give you 45. Mind you, Bucks had no else that played well, Wilt had Jerry West Jim McMillian. It was like 2015 LeBronesque
Olde skool news reels In playoff/finals meetings between Russell and Chamberlain, Wilt's scoring went down each time,6 out of 8 series his percentages dropped and 7/8 he lost to bill Russell. Wilt = 37.6 ppg 46% in 1959/60 season Wilt = 30.5 ppg 50%vs Russell in 1960 EDF (- 7.1 ppg) Wilt = 50.4 ppg 50% in 1961/62 season Wilt = 33.6 ppg 46%vs Russell in 1962 EDF (- 16.8 ppg) Wilt = 36.9 ppg 52% in 1963/64 season Wilt = 29.2 ppg 51%vs Russell in 1964 Finals (- 7.7 ppg) Wilt = 34.7 ppg 51%1964/65 season Wilt = 30.1 ppg 55%vs Russell in 1965 EDF (- 4.6 ppg) Wilt = 33.5 ppg 54%in 1965/66 season Wilt = 28.0 ppg 50%vs Russell in 1966 EDF (- 5.5 ppg) Wilt = 24.1 ppg 68%in 1966/67 season Wilt = 21.6 ppg 55%vs Russell in 1967 EDF (- 2.5 ppg the only time he beat Russell) Wilt = 24.3 ppg 59% in 1967/68 season Wilt = 22.1 ppg 48%vs Russell in 1968 EDF (- 2.2 ppg) Wilts = 20.5 ppg 58%in 1968/69 season Wilt = 11.7 ppg 50% vs 35 year old Russell in 1969 Finals (- 8.8 ppg)
@@Papichulo-xc5nd wow Bill is one of the greatest defenders of all time i didn't know that, might have been the goat if he could even average 20ppg, he averaged more rebounds than points
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If someone said that about white women my response would be Hey you like what you like that is your right and it does not make you a bad person but an honest one.@@elitemidrange
@@erics9754 Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion. However, just because you have a “preference” doesn’t mean you need to put others down. Also you don’t know Wilt or Kareem personally, so who are you to speak on what class of person they are?
@@erics9754all someone needs to do is sit down and watch a Wilt Chamberlain interview to find out that he’s arrogant, cocky, and thinks very highly of himself
When I watched the original video and it talked about "fan narratives" and "comparisons" I instantly became enamored with it and wondered what NBA youtube would think about this, with ut somewhat implying that players of yesteryear having a hard time dealing with outside talk from fans and what it would be like if the aged in today's twitter environment
This is mostly the Ls of Wilt, except for the part where Kareem and Wilt were playing at an equal level while Kareem was in his Prime and Wilt was almost retired.
Ey glad to see that beef history. Glad you watched one and Boi yall chose a gem. Kareem is a straight up savage, and I'm being dead ass I wish he tweeted more about the lakers than magic, cuz Kareem tells it straight.
he 100% put stats ahead of winning and his teams were just as talented as Bill Russell's if it wasnt for alex hannum and jerry west Wilt would have 0 rings
wilt an L bro wtf tearing down your own sistas like that?! i understand preferences but just date who you want, no need to diss on people you not interested in.
It's the 1960s he's a track star who more than likely is around white women, outside of Wilma Rudolph who was dating Ali which meant the women weren't only "prude" in Chamberlain mind but also the women running around during the sexual revolution were mostly white. Chamberlain not being a Nation of Islam supporter or a big Civil Rights supporter also meant he was going to be seeing many black women in urban areas unless he went south, which after his experience in Kansas he wasn't going to do.
@@zackrodriguez7519 not disagreeing with u, but I personally don’t know where to put wilt in comparison to the other players on my list; is he top 5? Outside the top 5? Is he better than Shaq or Hakeem? I’m just too lazy to put ‘‘em on my list
@@eleonarcrimson858 I meant to respond to @chilldoc9638 comment not the other one. His coaches always pressured him to score and to not focus on defense and the team. When his coaches told him the opposite he won his 2 rings
You guys are hilarious and play off each other so well; had to follow. Wilt at 34 beasting out like that shows that he was a force to be reckoned with.
Kareem had a coach that was able to allow the team to work together, just like Bill Russell. When Wilt finally had a coach(Alex Hannum and some better players) like them, he won the championship.
@@emayan06 really, you need to listen o most of the players he played against and there were some great players. Also, he had 109, 50 point games through his career. Did you ever see him play, he was a great athlete. In college he competed in track and field, after basketball, besides some pickup games, he was a very talented volleyball player.
@@JT-km6th also played the greatest team of all time in the playoffs. Also yiu know you're good when you can average 35 ppg for a playoff run and be called a choker. Then there's the fact that when he lost with the Lakers it was the offensive end that was struggling, and Wilt was put on defense.
Wilt was jealous of Kareem like a little, mean girl. His comments about Black women said everything about himself & nothing about us. There’s always one.
This video sounded like a Revolt TV interview every time they paused the video. The only difference was nobody was being interviewed. Sounded like Nore clapping his hands every 5 minutes 😅😅
My admiration of Mr. Chamberlain is not diminished by this video. For that matter, neither is my admiration of Mr. Kareem. I always enjoyed watching both of them play. Incidentally, I also had a little girl crush on. Wilt because I thought he was so very beautiful.
My grandmom knew Wilt and went to Overbrook with him. she told me he didn't date black women because of how girls treated him in high school and that they would call him a freak and say he was ugly...maybe that's why he held some of his terrible beliefs about black women.
Just trying to give y’all thoughts on things. How do y’all feel about the channel right now? I like the reacts, but I feel like another channel would’ve been better to do it on. I subscribed to Bsolz because of his content not his and Sage’s reactions. I’m not hating, it feels like they aren’t giving fair criticism, an example would be Jimmy’s video on Nikola. Not understanding or forgetting that the video was made on a certain day, granted I don’t know when they recorded it. And before anyone says I’m racist because you don’t like the black guy, I’m black so, shut up.
I think part of the issue with your perspective is that bsolz has said he wanted to change up his content. So even if you subscribed for bsolz content, it was going to change regardless of sage. Bsolzs wanted to do something different so he decided to work with sage, sage didn't change bsolz's content
I honestly feel like the takes shift has been because his content has moved from being more informational to more entertaining. As someone who watches TSO_Sage and watches the podcast, this type of casual content is up my ally but I realize why ppl are leaving.
@@nicholasalexander9866 i think they care less about being super accurate and are more focused on pure entertainment. Solz said something about feeling like he was making the same videos over and over again and they seem to enjoy the type of content they make on the pod more
IMO these reactions are just the same video over and over. His old videos had much more value because they were unique, specifically crafted pieces that involved writing and planning. These reaction videos just springboard off other people’s content. These videos are easier for SOLZ and Sage to crank out because the format is inherently lazier. These two can do whatever they want with their channel, I just wish we could get some sort of channel update video that directly explains the thought process moving forward.
To me Wilt is the most heavily criticized player of all times and it's so unfair. So many of the arguments brought up in this video (those from people at the time, not the comments) are completely biased and unreasonnable. I think he would be an undisputed goat candidate with today's conditions : the ability to change teams or to get players to join you, the media being more lenient towards you and taking into acount coaching issues, especially on the internet, training facilities... And it's completely hypocritical to blame Wilt for his comments on Kareem when he himself was the target of endless unfair criticism his whole career. Imagine having the career he had and have to watch everyone claim that you're not that good, that the new guy is a better version of you, people who never acknowledged him and crowned Kareem of a few years... He had every reason to be bitter about it. And I think this video is a perfect exemple of why. Bsolz made a video on why Kareem is overrated (which I think was accurate) but a few savage comments and you're Kareem stans and Wilt's a bitch.
The minute Wilt called Black women ugly, it's hard to defend him. Especially since I'm a black man and I have a mother, Sister, female cousins, and nieces who I love so much. Wilt was super talented but a dick.
@@MrLatrunks14 that's not what he said ! And even if he did, that does not make him a bad person. He had the right to think white women are more attractive, it's purely subjective and personnal. Of course I understand that you don't like him saying that, but it wasn't even an insult...
@@psychedelicpsychosis6954 what I said applies to this as well. It's not like he called black women savages ! Saying someone is sophisticated means nothing, Wilt could have been talking about clothing, make-up, attitude, education and culture... And he slept with so many different women that I understand his comments as nothing more than "statistics" from his experience. Sage calls black women queens, should I be offended because he didn't say the same about white women? Or should we grow up a little and understand that these are personnal preferences ?
Wilt was mainly upset because he saw himself as Kareem in a better/ easier situation.. I think if you gave wilt th lakers in his prime a lot of his criticism would be changed to praise
@@baseupp12he was still in his "prime" he was just playing with a goat candidate. Which would cause anyones stats to drop. He was 32 years old and averaging 19.4 PPG 8.2 AST 5.7 REB ON 50 FG % AND 85 FT% On top of that when Kareem was asked who is the goat he responded with: "LeBron is awesome, MJ was awesome-but I think Oscar Robertson would have kicked them both in the behind Absolutely. Oscar was awesome. He had brains. [...] He had all the skills. He could rebound and box out guys four and six inches taller than him. He was ruggedly built. He had fluid, quickness and just understood the game. No flair, he just got the job done every night. Who’s going to average double figures in points, assists and rebounds?" and this opinion is formed from playing with an "old" oscar robertson...
@@pioplu4803 still not enough to discard the fact that Wilt played with Baylor and West with the lakers , at this point Wilt is just finding excuses , Robertson is great but not the best of his generation either though
Nobody seems to understand that bill Russell always had a way better team and that’s why he was always having to put up those crazy numbers to even compete against him
I refuse to believe that any reporting is nonbiased. Every villain has an origin story. Wilt has a reason why he chose his own path. We'll just never know.
Bro it wasn't just the reporters teammates rival players ex coaches they all described wilt as someone who cared more about his numbers and what other people thought of him he for most of his career couldn't handle being a team player
@@jadencedras6878 I hear you. But we all thought Diddy was a stand up guy for decades. Having a lot of haters doesn't automatically make someone a bad person.
Hey bsolz, can you and sage react to one of clayton crowleis "making the case" videos? I t doesn't matter one which you choose just pick one you like the most😁👌. People in the comments like this so bsolsz can see.
Wilt son: Dad I just dropped 130 points
Wilt:but no rebounds 😂😂😂
“You didn’t get 30 rebounds nor any women at all that day,shouldn’t be proud of that performance”
Lol
70s beef entertaining as fuck😂😂
Otto porter can only drop 30 in his best game at most.
in what league is otto porter dropping 130? middle school aau? lmfao
Kareem could score 150 points in a game and wilt would say: well I mean he didnt R E B O U N D though.
Wilt:the only reason he scored one 150 is bc he didn’t transition defend enough lmao
@@yossimelamed9555 wilt was dominant but Kareem was more talented
wilt had a right to talk his shit because he was owning kareem in his late 30’s
@@Braylon1997 bruh,wasn’t trying to make a joke about what wilt would say lol
I mean wilt did both lol
All jokes aside. That video about why Kareem is overrated is starting to age terribly.
but the REBOUNDING
bruh i was thinking the same thing too 😂
Not really
Absolutely agree
Not really
I feel like you guys would enjoy the making the case series, for teams and players
That and Greatest Peaks
I agree fully
Those videos are 20 minutes long lol
Every beautiful women usually has 30% + white genes in them. It's the white gene that really makes beautiful women. That's a fact. Not sorry.
@@CombatMedic1O just say you're racist bro
Secret base is so goated, I really learned a lot more about basketball from them. Only watching basketball since 2011
Same here. Was a teenager when D Rose was making his splash and got pulled into basketball fandom by the 2k11 IOS game of all things. With J. Cole’s underrated basketball track “the plan” as the theme song. Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker were the hot up and coming youngsters soon after. Lebron was already in Miami. Etc. But secret base helps to appreciate basketball history. Wish there was something like this for hockey or baseball. Especially underrated players like Ichiro Suzuki who deserve a spotlight.
@@yurinoworry SAME I was in elementary tho, me and my older brother watched it, mainly raptor games cuz I’m from Canada. But I’m a huge drose fan, I used to watch him every game
Goddamn what a year to start too, 2011 championship was basically the best basketball I’ve ever seen
Imagine if they had Twitter in the 70's with Muhammad Ali and them? 🤯
It would’ve been crazzzzzzzzy
Alternate universe
And Pelé
I’m really loving this new content format with you and sage
they took a page outta playbacks playbook but i love da content fasho
@@trenchbabyf7690 true but this page is more Abt basketball and playback is more Abt women and relationship
Does sage have his own channel?
@@moscolito1881 yes he has his own channel
@@moscolito1881 TSO_Sage
I imagine Kareem writing in his journal just him shit-talking, "I didn't get my ass beat by an injured New York Knicks in the Finals bud-that was YOU! I won a FMVP at 36; you was winning them unemployment checks!".
Wilt was a millionaire and had other hobbies... he wasn't sitting at home crying about Kareem.
Kareem looked like “imma get that bitch” 😂😂😂
Wilt Chumperlame is crazy😂😂
😂😂
"Look at Kareem, man, so inspirational..." A man of character, sophistication, and integrity.
He is. Smart MF too.
"the person who controls the rebound controls the match". AKAGi, takenouri.
You guys should do some of their moments in history videos those would be a fire combination
Fax
Wilt and Kareem were publishing books so they could flame each other. That's wild.
😂😂😂😂Facts
Rebounding back then was an important metric to value a center
Still is. But with positionless basketball, maybe a little less so.
Been loving the content with sage.
I've already watched the source video, but you and Sage made it a lot more enjoyable! Thank you for making the rewatch worth it!
This was pretty one-sided, but I'm only going to address the one about FG%.
1971: Wilt held Kareem to a FG% of .481 in the playoffs. His regular season FG% was .577.
1972: Kareem shot .457 in the playoffs and ,574 in the regular season.
That is a substantial difference and this video is being disingenuous about that aspect.
Bruh Fg% drops in playoffs. And it is expected to drop if opposing centre is Wilt. 48 is still great. I'll give you 45.
Mind you, Bucks had no else that played well, Wilt had Jerry West Jim McMillian.
It was like 2015 LeBronesque
@@user-bm9cv9vn2k also FG percentage was lower back then so 45% vs wilt chamberlain in 1971 is actually pretty damn good imo.
Olde skool news reels bill held wilt to similar drops in PPG/FG%
Olde skool news reels In playoff/finals meetings between Russell and Chamberlain, Wilt's scoring went down each time,6 out of 8 series his percentages dropped and 7/8 he lost to bill Russell.
Wilt = 37.6 ppg 46% in 1959/60 season
Wilt = 30.5 ppg 50%vs Russell in 1960 EDF
(- 7.1 ppg)
Wilt = 50.4 ppg 50% in 1961/62 season
Wilt = 33.6 ppg 46%vs Russell in 1962 EDF
(- 16.8 ppg)
Wilt = 36.9 ppg 52% in 1963/64 season
Wilt = 29.2 ppg 51%vs Russell in 1964 Finals
(- 7.7 ppg)
Wilt = 34.7 ppg 51%1964/65 season
Wilt = 30.1 ppg 55%vs Russell in 1965 EDF
(- 4.6 ppg)
Wilt = 33.5 ppg 54%in 1965/66 season
Wilt = 28.0 ppg 50%vs Russell in 1966 EDF
(- 5.5 ppg)
Wilt = 24.1 ppg 68%in 1966/67 season
Wilt = 21.6 ppg 55%vs Russell in 1967 EDF
(- 2.5 ppg the only time he beat Russell)
Wilt = 24.3 ppg 59% in 1967/68 season
Wilt = 22.1 ppg 48%vs Russell in 1968 EDF
(- 2.2 ppg)
Wilts = 20.5 ppg 58%in 1968/69 season
Wilt = 11.7 ppg 50% vs 35 year old Russell in 1969 Finals
(- 8.8 ppg)
@@Papichulo-xc5nd wow Bill is one of the greatest defenders of all time i didn't know that, might have been the goat if he could even average 20ppg, he averaged more rebounds than points
Kareem’s disses are something else. The perfect mix of being the bigger man and dad jokes. He is now my GOAT as well
Kareem was a dirty player and a bitter soy boy. Wilt was a class act and was a better class of person. Kareem was always jealous of Wilt.
@@erics9754 Better class of person? By generalizing and disrespecting black women?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If someone said that about white women my response would be Hey you like what you like that is your right and it does not make you a bad person but an honest one.@@elitemidrange
@@erics9754 Everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion. However, just because you have a “preference” doesn’t mean you need to put others down. Also you don’t know Wilt or Kareem personally, so who are you to speak on what class of person they are?
@@erics9754all someone needs to do is sit down and watch a Wilt Chamberlain interview to find out that he’s arrogant, cocky, and thinks very highly of himself
When I watched the original video and it talked about "fan narratives" and "comparisons" I instantly became enamored with it and wondered what NBA youtube would think about this, with ut somewhat implying that players of yesteryear having a hard time dealing with outside talk from fans and what it would be like if the aged in today's twitter environment
bro was losing the rivalry so bad he had to bring his old rival records into the battle 😭
This is basically the old heads version of the Shaq vs Dwight beef
Except in this version the Dwight became better than Shaq
I need more beef base reaction content from you guys. This was hilarious.
13:31 wilt def a stand user you can’t convince me otherwise
He a stardust crusader
This is mostly the Ls of Wilt, except for the part where Kareem and Wilt were playing at an equal level while Kareem was in his Prime and Wilt was almost retired.
Wilt’s team was far more stacked though. At that point in his career, Wilt was maybe the third or fourth best player on his team
Wilt as a ball player- 10/10
Wilt as a person - 3/10
Karl Malone as a ball player- 10/10
Karl as a person 13/10
U going to jail for this one chief
Oh nahhh💀💀
🤣🤣😂
ayo what
Even as a joke that’s dumb asf 🤦🏽♂️
Ey glad to see that beef history. Glad you watched one and Boi yall chose a gem. Kareem is a straight up savage, and I'm being dead ass I wish he tweeted more about the lakers than magic, cuz Kareem tells it straight.
Dennis Rodman definitely was wilts favorite player since all he talked about was rebounding
Between that and their history with women, wouldn't shock me if they had a kinship with each other.
That Wilt Chumperlain comment was ode 😂😂
this might be y'alls best video yet perfect length, commentary, and comedy keep it up
SDC also made a vid about Wilt, really gave an insight to what this man was going through at the time.
Man I miss SDC, his videos were great.
@@hamzaoulmouden3411 word bro I remember like 5 years ago I used to watch his daily NBA news recaps as soon as I came home from school everyday 😭
Now I just hope I live long enough to see the same story about Wemby and Chet.
Cook
Rebounding is extremely important actually usually the team who wins the rebound battle wins the game
And Kareem did more than enough when it came to rebounding. 6 rings
@@pradayou5405where were the rings before Magic arrived?
Stat Padder or not, Wilt is still one of the GOATS and still one of the top 10 players of all time
Wilt is one of the greatest basketball players ever. He was so dominant that the NBA created rules just to stop his dominance.
Ok??? He was still arguably a bad person
Fake stats
he 100% put stats ahead of winning and his teams were just as talented as Bill Russell's if it wasnt for alex hannum and jerry west Wilt would have 0 rings
@@papadoc331 how was he a bad person? What did he do that was bad?
hes the greatest athlete to play basketball not the greatest basketball player
If Shot blocking award was introduced during Wilt's era , it wouldnt b only Kareem's rebounding
well Kareem was averaging 4 blocks in his first 4 years that werent counted. If this was the case, Kareem would have 7-8 blocking records!
Or steals
@@NotGord If they had counted blocks back then wilt would be number 1 and Russell would be number 2.
@@MovieGuy666 Russell was a far superior Defender. Wilt started playing defense for real when he joined the Lakers.
Nigga Kareem really said Wilt Chumperlame 😂😂😂😂😂 Goat nigga a living legend fr
Fam he hit em with the Westbrick 😂😂😂😂😂 Wilt Chumperlain😭😂😂😂😂
LMAO "Was Wilt KD before KD" is fucking nasty lmao
Wilt "Stats & All" Chumperlame 😂😂
“GOATs can’t be taken down by a cow”
“She ain’t watched back at the barnyard!” LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
wilt an L bro wtf tearing down your own sistas like that?! i understand preferences but just date who you want, no need to diss on people you not interested in.
That means he's a W
@@conxoraddonahue9956 L 🤡
It's the 1960s he's a track star who more than likely is around white women, outside of Wilma Rudolph who was dating Ali which meant the women weren't only "prude" in Chamberlain mind but also the women running around during the sexual revolution were mostly white. Chamberlain not being a Nation of Islam supporter or a big Civil Rights supporter also meant he was going to be seeing many black women in urban areas unless he went south, which after his experience in Kansas he wasn't going to do.
I'm loving the content, y'all be on timing 😪☝🏾
14:15 Sage sound like a pissed off Father "YO CUT IT OUT" "YO CUT IT OUT"😂😂😂😂😂
Hot take: wilt is 11th-13th all time
No he's definitely top 10
@@zackrodriguez7519 not disagreeing with u, but I personally don’t know where to put wilt in comparison to the other players on my list; is he top 5? Outside the top 5? Is he better than Shaq or Hakeem? I’m just too lazy to put ‘‘em on my list
@@imanolvides3185id say he's above shaq and Hakeem. I have him 7th, ahead of shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan, but that's just my opinion
@@imanolvides3185 definitely better than Hakeem but slightly better than shaq
I agree.
Dude I love that channel. It’s beautiful. Keep on with their beef histories
Before diss tracks, there was autobiographies slander
Shout out to the queens ✊🏾✊🏾
There are no queens, bish
@@sonnymp1337 bye weirdo
@@sonnymp1337 Another L person
As a Wilt stan this broke my heart 😭😭
He’s pretty overrated if you look into it
I was a wilt hater too until I read his biography and looked into his environment.
@@mung1233? What does that mean
@@eleonarcrimson858 I meant to respond to @chilldoc9638 comment not the other one. His coaches always pressured him to score and to not focus on defense and the team. When his coaches told him the opposite he won his 2 rings
@@chilldoc9638He’s underrated nowadays
Kareem a W 😭💀
This duo is comedy gold 😂
Y’all need to do more of these LOL I’m dying
Wilt being a Nixon fan is just a gigantic L on its own.
If you guys want more Kareem videos, I highly recommend Clayton Crowley's video Making the Case for Kareem as the G.O.A.T
Kareem a natural born G.O.A.T
16:30 Kareem gave Wilt Chamberlain that ether that good good that make your soul burn slow.
They said "Prime" but Kareem was a rookie lmao
Exactly Kareem wasn’t in his prime
Kareem had a "prime" that lasted around 15 or so years, starting in his rookie season. At least, that's my belief. 😊
Kareem love from 2 UA-cam goats 🐐 yea I’m fw this
That wilt pack went up lmaoooo
I never thought I would be watching secret base on bolz channel
Didn’t realize that Wilt Chamberlain was just an L of a person
hes not bruh, watch some interviews, that video incredibly biased and unreasonable
@@pioplu4803 the stuff he said in his biography is pretty bad tho ngl.
You guys are hilarious and play off each other so well; had to follow.
Wilt at 34 beasting out like that shows that he was a force to be reckoned with.
13:55 nah this a wild ass picture of Wilt bruh 😭😭
“Imagine a player spammed the same move” *cough* Harden
Kareem had a coach that was able to allow the team to work together, just like Bill Russell. When Wilt finally had a coach(Alex Hannum and some better players) like them, he won the championship.
Yep wilt was a stat chaser, he only cared about himself .
@@emayan06 really, you need to listen o most of the players he played against and there were some great players. Also, he had 109, 50 point games through his career. Did you ever see him play, he was a great athlete. In college he competed in track and field, after basketball, besides some pickup games, he was a very talented volleyball player.
@@emayan06 yep, a stat chaser that averaged 14.8 points on his way to a championship...
@@sir_sack regular season hero
@@JT-km6th also played the greatest team of all time in the playoffs. Also yiu know you're good when you can average 35 ppg for a playoff run and be called a choker. Then there's the fact that when he lost with the Lakers it was the offensive end that was struggling, and Wilt was put on defense.
if it ain’t snowing I ain’t going snow bunnies hit so different 😭😭
Wilt was jealous of Kareem like a little, mean girl. His comments about Black women said everything about himself & nothing about us. There’s always one.
Just as bad as rick barry saying bill russell has a watermelon grin
The only thing Wilt likes more than white women is rebounding lol
This video sounded like a Revolt TV interview every time they paused the video. The only difference was nobody was being interviewed.
Sounded like Nore clapping his hands every 5 minutes 😅😅
To be fair I think wilt was one of the only people ever to block the sky hook so I mean there’s a W… I guess?
Objectively, that is quite impressive especially considering his age. I heard Wilt had like a 7’8 wingspan or something, that’s nuts 😮
15:53 - 16:08 this is the funniest sarcasm I ever heard in my life 😂 also, both of their laughs are contagious!
kevin wayne was the best player in the league in 2014 and 2019. maybe this year too.
Poor Wilt. Once Russell was gone, then comes Kareem. Never had a year where he didn’t have to share the season against another Mt Rushmore center.
Wilt was similar to KD because they were both villains of basketball/in the NBA at some point in there careers.
Russell Westbrook
both have 2 rings also
The difference is, Wilt won with the team he was drafted too and never joined a contender unlike how KD joined a 73-9 Warriors….
Both also let criticism get too them and it hurt their careers (Imsaying this as a fan of both players btw)
@@apxche_x Wilt won with the 76er and Lakers. He was drafted by the Warriors. The Lakers had 2 other top 10 players in the League.
My admiration of Mr. Chamberlain is not diminished by this video. For that matter, neither is my admiration of Mr. Kareem. I always enjoyed watching both of them play. Incidentally, I also had a little girl crush on. Wilt because I thought he was so very beautiful.
My grandmom knew Wilt and went to Overbrook with him. she told me he didn't date black women because of how girls treated him in high school and that they would call him a freak and say he was ugly...maybe that's why he held some of his terrible beliefs about black women.
I dont know much about his beliefs, were they terrible? Everyone is entitled to preferences
@@MG-ol8hs yeah you’re entitled to your preference but you don’t have to bash another race in the process, very weird behavior.
@@judygru3some I agree personally I think black women are beautiful in a strong, feminine way.
@@MG-ol8hs I dont.
@@777wrath good for you
This my favorite of the new stlye of content.
Just trying to give y’all thoughts on things. How do y’all feel about the channel right now? I like the reacts, but I feel like another channel would’ve been better to do it on. I subscribed to Bsolz because of his content not his and Sage’s reactions. I’m not hating, it feels like they aren’t giving fair criticism, an example would be Jimmy’s video on Nikola. Not understanding or forgetting that the video was made on a certain day, granted I don’t know when they recorded it.
And before anyone says I’m racist because you don’t like the black guy, I’m black so, shut up.
I think part of the issue with your perspective is that bsolz has said he wanted to change up his content. So even if you subscribed for bsolz content, it was going to change regardless of sage. Bsolzs wanted to do something different so he decided to work with sage, sage didn't change bsolz's content
@@jamesdaniel6242 Yeah that’s true, I’m enjoying the content, it’s just some of the takes they have seem weird. I’m not sure how to explain it
I honestly feel like the takes shift has been because his content has moved from being more informational to more entertaining. As someone who watches TSO_Sage and watches the podcast, this type of casual content is up my ally but I realize why ppl are leaving.
@@nicholasalexander9866 i think they care less about being super accurate and are more focused on pure entertainment. Solz said something about feeling like he was making the same videos over and over again and they seem to enjoy the type of content they make on the pod more
IMO these reactions are just the same video over and over. His old videos had much more value because they were unique, specifically crafted pieces that involved writing and planning. These reaction videos just springboard off other people’s content. These videos are easier for SOLZ and Sage to crank out because the format is inherently lazier. These two can do whatever they want with their channel, I just wish we could get some sort of channel update video that directly explains the thought process moving forward.
Why won't they say the NCAA took dunking out because they was racist..
They didn't like seeing a large BM dunking over little W boys
To me Wilt is the most heavily criticized player of all times and it's so unfair. So many of the arguments brought up in this video (those from people at the time, not the comments) are completely biased and unreasonnable. I think he would be an undisputed goat candidate with today's conditions : the ability to change teams or to get players to join you, the media being more lenient towards you and taking into acount coaching issues, especially on the internet, training facilities...
And it's completely hypocritical to blame Wilt for his comments on Kareem when he himself was the target of endless unfair criticism his whole career. Imagine having the career he had and have to watch everyone claim that you're not that good, that the new guy is a better version of you, people who never acknowledged him and crowned Kareem of a few years... He had every reason to be bitter about it.
And I think this video is a perfect exemple of why. Bsolz made a video on why Kareem is overrated (which I think was accurate) but a few savage comments and you're Kareem stans and Wilt's a bitch.
THIS!!!!
The minute Wilt called Black women ugly, it's hard to defend him. Especially since I'm a black man and I have a mother, Sister, female cousins, and nieces who I love so much. Wilt was super talented but a dick.
@@MrLatrunks14 that's not what he said ! And even if he did, that does not make him a bad person. He had the right to think white women are more attractive, it's purely subjective and personnal.
Of course I understand that you don't like him saying that, but it wasn't even an insult...
@@thomaslequesne5475 he also said white women were more sophisticated. I wonder why you ignored that part to defend his statement
@@psychedelicpsychosis6954 what I said applies to this as well. It's not like he called black women savages ! Saying someone is sophisticated means nothing, Wilt could have been talking about clothing, make-up, attitude, education and culture... And he slept with so many different women that I understand his comments as nothing more than "statistics" from his experience.
Sage calls black women queens, should I be offended because he didn't say the same about white women? Or should we grow up a little and understand that these are personnal preferences ?
Wilt Chumperlain
and now Kareem sound just as salty talking about today's players and Lebron breaking his scoring record..so he's now turned into Wilt
2014 2016 -18 21-22 kd was the best player in the nba
lol
Not 2016
@@CCBrickx07 28 8 and 5 on 50 and damn near 40% from 3
It was just 2019
Is it just me or does it look like Bsolz been losing weight. I’m proud of ya Bsolz keep it up💪🏾
It’s you bro
@@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12 well damn💀 you ain’t have to do my boy like that
that kareem is overrated video aged terribly 😂😂😂
Prehistoric basketball the Petty Olympics and I'm here for it lmaooooo Reem right there with Jordan lmaoooo
Wilt was mainly upset because he saw himself as Kareem in a better/ easier situation.. I think if you gave wilt th lakers in his prime a lot of his criticism would be changed to praise
Wilt played on some of the greatest all time teams bruh lol Kareem carried a weak Bucks team to a title before joining the loaded Lakers
@@isaacdebeila8085 the Bucks had Oscar Robertson on it, your opinion is invalid
@@-ac-8296 an older Oscar Robinson who was no where near what he was in his prime
@@baseupp12he was still in his "prime" he was just playing with a goat candidate. Which would cause anyones stats to drop. He was 32 years old and averaging
19.4 PPG
8.2 AST
5.7 REB
ON
50 FG % AND 85 FT%
On top of that when Kareem was asked who is the goat he responded with:
"LeBron is awesome, MJ was awesome-but I think Oscar Robertson would have kicked them both in the behind Absolutely. Oscar was awesome. He had brains. [...] He had all the skills.
He could rebound and box out guys four and six inches taller than him. He was ruggedly built. He had fluid, quickness and just understood the game. No flair, he just got the job done every night. Who’s going to average double figures in points, assists and rebounds?"
and this opinion is formed from playing with an "old" oscar robertson...
@@pioplu4803 still not enough to discard the fact that Wilt played with Baylor and West with the lakers , at this point Wilt is just finding excuses , Robertson is great but not the best of his generation either though
Kareem was dropping ether bars on wilt 😭
I’ve genuinely been looking for a channel like this for a while and i am so happy i found this channel. Keep up the dope content guys 🙏🏼🤙🏼
Yo do more of these. I love the beef history series
Wareem Wbdul-Wabbar
They were fr dropping diss books
Nobody seems to understand that bill Russell always had a way better team and that’s why he was always having to put up those crazy numbers to even compete against him
Then why did Wilt Teams get better without him scoring 50ppg and ball hogging?
Up til about 65' I'd agree. After that Wilt played with better players. Yes, better. Loaded with HOFers and All Stars. Sixers And Lakers.
I refuse to believe that any reporting is nonbiased. Every villain has an origin story. Wilt has a reason why he chose his own path. We'll just never know.
Bro it wasn't just the reporters teammates rival players ex coaches they all described wilt as someone who cared more about his numbers and what other people thought of him he for most of his career couldn't handle being a team player
@@jadencedras6878 I hear you. But we all thought Diddy was a stand up guy for decades. Having a lot of haters doesn't automatically make someone a bad person.
This just shows that Kareem was straight up a class act while Wilt was like a jealous ex that stalks you on twitter
no...it was the opposite
I dunno man...
you should watch the bill lamber and larry bird beef history
Now I'm a Kareem Stan and he tied for the goat also wilt an L
He played against kareem AFTER he had knee surgery
Hey bsolz, can you and sage react to one of clayton crowleis "making the case" videos? I t doesn't matter one which you choose just pick one you like the most😁👌.
People in the comments like this so bsolsz can see.