Pulsar 2300 Generator vs. Honda EU2000i Sound Comparison
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
- I opted to purchase a less expensive quiet model generator, a Pulsar 2300 Generator, model number G2319N.
In this video I measure the sound level and compare it to my Honda EU2000i
Had my pulsar for 2 years now. It has ran flawlessly the whole time. Starts on 1st or second pull. Is super quiet. Can run all day on a tanks of gas. No complaints at all, and I highly recommend this generator. Can't compare to the Honda ( I don't have a honda). But I will never own one either. I will definitely buy another pulsar instead.
Mine is outside right now purring like a 😸.
I've had mine two years too, ran it for 5 hours,
fairly quiet, loved it, swore by it. Put it in storage
for 1 year, will not start no matter what, not happy,
disgusted at Pulsar, will never buy again, nor recommend. As far as Honda, lol, would not
likely buy one due to the price. I don't consider
my Pulsar to be cheap either, just junk, that will
fail when needed most. Never put a Pulsar in
Storage thinking you can rely on it in an emergency.
@@bikersoncall Most likely you didn’t do anything before storage. If you did, you would have mentioned running it til the gas ran out, draining the gas, or putting in fuel stabilizer, something. If you had the Honda, it likely would have had the same issues.
I researched generator maintenance, and run mine at least 1 hour each month, and also put an hour meter on it to keep track of oil changes. I’ve had mine for 1 1/2 years and have zero issues with starting it. A generator is an investment that you take care of, not a store it Willy-Nilly for a year then get mad when it fails you type of thing. You’ve only got yourself to blame.
@@J_Trask Most likely you're
talking out your a33, if you weren't, you
would have mentioned the brand of
crystal ball you use. You are dead wrong,
and only have your insulting, hateful,
condescending, & 2nd grade education
(self) to blame.
Cheers!
@@bikersoncall I’m all good brother. These generators are too cheap to be able to store and forget until needed. They require a regular maintenance schedule to make them last. Nothing to get angry about, buddy.
@@J_Trask 😂
You start out triggered , with insults,
,personal attacks, and lies, as if your last name
was Pulsar, then get deeper into brilliance
with more attacks and insults, YOU HAVE
JUST WON THE INTERWEB, bravo sir!!
''Ok Buddy'', try a chill pill, some anger
management (?). 🤣
You can buy 3 of the pulsar generators for the price of a Honda.... For less than 10 decibels, and a millisecond of load time I’ll go with the Pulsar.
10 db is exponentially louder than a Honda. If someone had never owned a Honda before, thos noise of the Pulsar wouldn't be as annoying as it was to me. I've owned four Honda EU2000s over the years.
Yamaha (blue) in color makes a portable generator for years.. in comparison to the Honda eu2000 I have them both. 2 Yamaha‘s with a parallel cable and one Honda all portable. I like the Yamaha ibetter and has a fuel gauge. Although they are both excellent generators. It’s just as reliable as the Honda and also costs about the same. Check out UA-cam for the comparison of them both
every 3db doubles!
@@NYJJ99 The Pulsar is a knockoff of the Yamaha 2000 (or 2200) under the plastic case right down to the MZ-80 Yamaha clone engine sometimes called a "DJ-148" engine.
ALL Chinese knockoff Yamaha clone generators like this are the same under the decals and plastic case of this style regardless of the name on them "Wen", "Westinghouse" (LOL) "Pulsar", etc... They behave and sound just like a genuine Yamaha 2000 unit.
@@scdevon does that mean it runs just as good as the yahamha? Also will it be able to run a in window ac unit and a floor fan?
I would expect the Honda to be better than the Pulsar at 3 times the price, but it didn't sound 3 times quieter than the Pulsar to justify that price, I'm sure the Honda would out live the Pulsar over the long term under constant use , but if somebody wanted a generator to use occasionally like for power outages at home the Pulsar is the better deal.
For occasional use, it's definitely a better deal.
@@deltabravo1257 I've ran it for 2 years, multiple times per day/week for mobile detailing. Haven't had any problems. It's built for a lot of use
the honda will 100% outlive the pulsar. honda generators are nearly indestructable. at my previous job we had no access to power, so we had a honda 3000W generator that ran 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week and got its oil changed maybe once every 6 months if it was lucky. running in the sun in 105 degree weather at 80% load, sometimes getting so hot it would start sputtering and we had to shut it off for a while (other employees sometimes put it right in front of the AC condensor output, meaning it was taking air that was already 100+ degrees that was then heated up more as the AC was dumping heat, and trying to cool itself with that) and yet while i worked there the hour meter passed 9999 hours. the dang thing was running on its original sparkplug too.
Well I'm pretty happy with my Pulsar after 3+ years. Powers my kitchen fridge (600w) and my garage freezer (620w) as needed. Also charges up all our devices and lights during any power outages. It also charges my Duracell Power source and it's aux 100AH battery. I have solar panels to charge them both. That's what really powers up my stuff but the Pulsar is great to have for when there's not much sun or if I'm drawing more power from other stuff like heaters or power tools. Runs flawlessly if you actually perform the break in procedure and maintain it properly. It takes work keeping it running but she'll run forever if you follow a disciplined maintenance routine.
What kind of "work" does it take to keep it running?
@@deltabravo1257 Oil changes every 50hrs according to the manual so it helps to install a run time meter or at least keep a written log. Best to install an upgraded magnetic oil cap that captures little metal bits since there's no actual filter. And use gas stabilizer if the unit sits around more than a few months. Spark plug needs inspection and replacement as needed. Probably more, but that's the basics.
The Pulsar seems quieter and MUCH smoother. . .and that'snot even on Eco-Mode!
You also botched the Pulsar start by not setting it to Choke, until the end, and then, VOILA! it started.
I too wondered why he put it on choke then immediately run when he tried to start it.
Your video was a perfect example of the fact you ARE a normal guy! Technology CAN get confusing. Regardless of the exactness of your findings, I still get the gist of it. I'll buy another Honda! Also, I want a specific 30A connection socket for ease of RV use... (regardless of its actual amperage output) Thanks for the video.....
I wasn't impressed with the Pulsar.
My Honda is kind of noisy too.
I am pretty sure my Honda EU2000 is noisier than most. I bought it used from Home Depot's rental fleet and I think the muffler has issues, causing it to make excessive noise.
Sad.
the pulsar has the 3rd best feedback from buyers and the champion 2000w is 1st the Wen 2250 3rd and the quietest of all 3 and you don't have to clean the spark arrestor Wen has the best features I still picked a champion which is the best build the predator and aipower are last with me there larger and aipower is the loudest of all inverter generators iv heard the honda and Yamaha are premium generators for ballers not the average buyer.
Thanks for the info
Just bought my Pulsar inverter generator for $285 on sale nov 2022 through Walmart/ Newegg at less than 1/4 the price of a Honda it sure seems solidly built, I'll take that chance! If arrived with some broken plastic from shipping, pulsar completely took care of it.
That's a bargain at $285.
@@deltabravo1257 it was $299 and I used my credit card which was 5% at Walmart off so $285, I figured for that price why not? I always wanted an small inverter generator for electronics and run my fridge overnight during power outages. Big generators are great to power entire house but they are gas hogs and 90%+ time you don't need all the power, fire the big generator only when need 240v power for my well pump or other high use
@@deltabravo1257 Honda is nice and better, would I pay 2x for a Honda, yes! Would I pay 4x...no.... So if I could get that Honda for $600 new sure, not $1200, actually I can do as low as $1130 for that honda . I would not touch any of these inverter generators with a 10 foot pole used unless basically for free
I agree, pitch seems higher, but if you check your decibel readings they were the same. The Honda is 121cc, the Pulsar is a Yamaha MZ80 Ducar clone at 65% of the displacement of the Honda at 79CC. They were both off eco mode (as you noticed after the fact I believe) . I think for the price savings, it is justifiable, especially given you can find these pulsar units under other brand names for just over $300. At 1/3 the price of the Honda, it becomes relevant.
Cost savings over a Honda is exactly why I bought the Pulsar. I haven't seen a Pulsar 2300 for the $300 price range though. I bought mine for just over $400.
@@jrjrjrjrjrjrjrjrjrjrjrjrjr Jordan, there's many (and I believe almost all of them are labeled as 2200 watts) I really don't know how pulsar rates that extra 100 watts but I'd be interested to know. I'll whip off a few. Best deal you'll get right now is the Powermate PM2200I. It's being sold on eBay by Generac directly who owns the brand and all the difference between the Powermate pm2200i in the Generac GP 2200i is the color.(I've checked part numbers and spoken to senior tech support).
So those two, and craftsman, Duromax, Westinghouse, quip-all, hell even Ford. All of these have the Ducar manufactured 79cc yamaha clone. Look em up, put the photos side by side, you'll see they're all the same, now that doesn't mean that here or there a specification was changed. But I can say that for the Powermate/Generac ones I like the addition of the weather covers on the switches so it's unlikely they skimped/shaved any quality.
@@rickworthington3062 when you buy cheap you get to buy twice, why not buy right the first time, and get a honda and be done with it.
@@dangda-ww7de Thanks for the advice, even if it is from a position of ignorance.
Cheap is one thing, inexpensive is another. I have currently have 2 Honda generators, previously had 3.... as well as the Powermate (Generac). Only a fool would make a claim like you have. How the hell do you know that Honda is the only way to go, and how the hell can you even presume to know what else an individual has, what their particular need is, or that the comparison you're making is not both ridiculous and just an ignorant generalization? You don't have to answer that...I know the answer.
At $1/hr operating break even point, 345 hours in and this unit has met that metric. My Honda would need to run almost 1000 hours to meet the same metric...it needs to be 3x as reliable just to match a $1/hr operating standard... I could effectively buy 3 of these units for every 1 of my Honda's and still be even for out of pocket expense. Or every 2 years buy a new one and sell the used for $100 less, keeping a perpetually low hour and fully warrantied unit on hand. Or be able to carry a brand new spare in the event of a mechanical issue and still save over 30%... how many viable alternative examples would you need to hear to admit that certain individuals would be justified... If I need my $319 2200 watt Generac/Powermate unit serviced under warranty...there's 6 shops I can drop it off within a 10 mile radius from my house and a claim gets processed the same or next day. When I needed my Honda repaired under warranty....it was a 2 week pissing match wait. Not everything about the big name players is the best.
As stated, I have Honda's and although reliable I have still had issues with the carb on one, which was repaired rather easily but it illustrates that name alone does not indicate that service will be more "reliable". I also do not like the fact that my newer Honda gen needs the damn timing belt changed after every 25 days I use it... which certainly impacts the intervals in which I would let a family member use it or would mandate I service it early to mitigate any potential issues. I prefer to take the Yamaha engine with me for traveling or lending because it is a simpler mechanical design, and JUST AS RELIABLE as any of the Honda generators I've owner the past 15 years...
So...before you go making blanket statements from a position of ignorance....become educated about what you claim. These Ducar/Pulsar units are marketed by multi-billion dollar global organizations...not some damn fly by night horseshit importer.
@@rickworthington3062 for some info Rural King has the Powermate PM2200i for $379 I work there so I got mine for $322 with employee discount, you can get them at store or order online have them shipped to house "Ruralking.com"
I don’t believe that you could hear the Pulsar generator which was in the front of your truck while you were behind your camper. The whole video is absolutely not objective because you don’t like the Pulsar. Why not just to buy another Honda? Right ! As someone here already mentioned you can have 3 Pulsar for 1 Honda generator. Looks like you’re complaining about many things in this video, not only about the Pulsar generator 😂
You are correct, I don't like the Pulsar. Why? Because it's noisy, so the video "is" objective in that regard. I wasn't "complaining" in the video, just pointing out the loudness of the Pulsar, which as I said, I could hear from afar. And yes, I did buy a new Honda: ua-cam.com/video/cjZnTzob7Uw/v-deo.html
Yes but $379 versus $1139 .......
Very true. Low Price = Excessive Noise
A lot of engineering goes into designing a unit that is 10db quieter under equal conditions. 70 db is EXPONENTIALLY louder than 60 db, not just a "little" louder. Is that engineering worth $800 bucks more per unit? Maybe. Maybe not. A lot can be done in a permanent installation to quiet it down assuming that the reliability is comparable.
@@deltabravo1257 it depends on what you’re using it for. If it’s for tailgating or camping, then sure, the Honda is ideal from a noise standpoint; but let’s say you’re using a generator to power your fridge, internet, tv, and a few lights during an extended power outage and it’s outside the house, the noise wouldn’t matter.
I forgot to comment about the RPM. Is it possible your hour/tach was set improperly? I've read there are several setting for those. I ask because I have to be skeptical about it actually reaching 4900 rpm. Traditionally, 3600 RPM was needed for 60hz power output. These inverter generators can run multiphase ac to dc, back to ac power and can run lower rpm (hence eco mode). Any rpm bump over 3600 should be momentary and during ramp up or surge. So I'd wager that your gauge was improperly set as I don't even think the MZ80 can reach 4900 rpm. I will check though.
There was noting to set on this meter when I installed it from what I recall.
@@deltabravo1257 On the Hardline, there is a pulse per revolution setting (3 options). To set it properly, you check/match the manufacturers listed engine idle rpm to the output pulse, and change it to one of the 3 settings on the unit so it matches.
Is it load sensitive variable, or just two speeds, idle down and high?
Honda EU2200i has proportional variable so at 500 watt load it doesn't just go to high for only a mere 500 watts, it adjusts somewhere between low and highest with a stepper-motor to save fuel and noise.
It operates on the same principle as the Honda EU Series - variable speed.
How is the Pulsar holding up? Looking to buy one
I sold it after 6 hours of use. Watch my other video on it. It doesn't respond to a large load as fast as a Honda does.
Don't waste your money on a Pulsar.
Get a Champion inverter style generator if you don't want to spend the money that a Honda costs.
Nothing compared to a Honda.. I sold my two Honda eu2200i generators yesterday. Looking for one cheaper version. Have you tried the Champion 2000 yet?
I haven't tried a Champion. After hearing the noise of the Pulsar, I switched to another Honda:
ua-cam.com/video/cjZnTzob7Uw/v-deo.html
You made a mistake selling both Hondas.
@@J_Trask I have a Honda eu3000is and Honda eu7000is... The 2200s just sat and we're only used a couple times. Just need something small and cheap to use maybe once or twice a year. I'm a hands on mechanic. I know nothing beats a Honda.
i just purchased this pulsar generator brand new and right out of the box it has a misfire while running at idle, but under a load its fine. im not sure how satisfied i am with it.
Mine ran good, but I didn't like the excessive noise. I sold it after about 5 months of owning it and only put 6.1 hours on it. I only used it on one trip.
remove plug that come with it and put a NGK BPR6HS in it, my generator did same, changed plug and worked fine
also Eric make sure the screw that holds the off, run, and choke switch is tight, mine was a little loose, you can get to it through side panel that you take off for oil, it is 8mm
Thank You
To run gas out of the carb, u close the air on the fuel tank?
No, that doesn't drain the carb on an EU2000 or the Pulsar. On the Honda EU2000, you have to drain the fuel tank, then let the gen run til it dies.
On the EU2200i, there's an intermediate position of the shutoff switch which cuts off fuel flow but the engine still runs, so THAT'S how you drain the carb on it.
@@deltabravo1257 ty. Cutting off the air to the fuel tank wouldn't cause it to starve for fuel?
@@filoIII it will, through a process called “vapor lock” but it will take a while. also, the lower the gas level is in the tank, the longer it will take to “vapor lock” due to there being a higher volume of air in the fuel tank.
Pulsar ALL DAY. I can buy two or three with a pairing kit for less then 1 Honda. Next time compare a Honda to a Yamaha same price range.
The noise of the Pulsar was obnoxious, plus it didn't run large loads very well, so I sold it no long after doing this review.
The big problem with these inverter generators especially the Honda is if you put bad gas in them or leave gas in them for more than 30 days, they will never run again without major major repair, the pulsar not so sure, but I would never run any generator on any gas that has any quantity of alcohol in it. These little generators sip fuel and the carburetors are tiny with capillary type passages
And methanol poisoning is a real issue and will clog them at the drop of the hat and I’ve never had much success in cleaning one replacement is usually the only option if you’re careful with your fuel, you can get them to run along time, but if you’re just gonna go to the gas station and buy automotive gasoline, you may get lucky a little while, but eventually you’re gonna throw $1200 away for the Honda and $400 on the pulsar if it’s set up the same way word caution.
And as far as quality is concerned, the Honda probably is a cut above that pulsar you got there, but I can guarantee you of one thing a tear down would definitely yield evidence that that Honda is made in China exactly like that Chinese engine in that pulsar you got there More or less the same company. everyone is under the impression that those Honda EU generators are made in Japan that is simply not true. There may be a few Japanese parts in there, but the bulk of that generator is just as chai as everyone else.
I only use ethanol free fuel in my Honda EU2200i. I hated how loud the Pulsar was and sold it before I ever used it on a camping trip.
I had mine for about 5 years now with 200 hours on it.
About 80% of that time it's been on "car gas" with ethanol. It's still runs great. As long as you use fresh gas then drain the tank and run it dry before putting it away you should not have any problems.
Would always prefer the Japanese Honda versus a chinese clone but the price factor has to come into play
I prefer the Honda too, but they are made in Taiwan now.
I have a EU2200i with Bluetooth.
I have the Pulsar, ran it 5 hours, stored it for
a year, now it won't start, runs fine as long as it has
starting fluid in the intake. Grrr....I won't buy another one.
You can't store them with gas in them for a year. Clean the carb & it will be fine.
@@allenj908 Didn't.
can you provide a link to the tach
Do a search an Amazon and you can fund hundreds of tachs available.
this supports a 120v inverter welder
Thanks for the info.
Obviously the Honda is a premium product but for the occasional user the Pulsar, or any of the off brands made by the same company, is fine.
I've watched several of your generator reviews. It's obvious you're a Honda guy and are not reviewing them fairly. It seems you use a generator more than most people so for you it might make sense to pay more for the Honda. To keep the fridge running and a little heat on during an ice storm I don't care how noisy my generator is. In fact, the louder ones are easier to hear when they need fueled. 😃
I really had intended to use the Pulsar and sell that used Honda, which didn't run right at lower RPM. The noise of the Pulsar was annoying, after only 6 hours of use, i sold it. I also sold the used Honda and ended up buying a new Honda EU2200i.
Little bit of money... That's a lot of money difference lol
The Honda EU2000 here was a used unit I bought from Home Depot for about $650. It had issues too, so I sold it about 6 months later. I ended up buying a new EU2200i back in 2019 I think.
@@deltabravo1257 Yea I'm actually pretty sure I'm getting the champion 2500 myself.
Honda was loud for how you got to pay for, didn't really here to much of a difference.
Honda has a bigger engine, no?
Yes, the Honda is bigger.
dont get me wrong honda is better build and quality, but the price its set for dummies! Period. I bought my two Pulsar for $847 with 2 years warranty from squaretrade and never had an issue, they do get hot thou, but i keep them inside the house in self made insulated box that i made and you can barely jear them.
BTW you uploader Delta Bravo 3 months ago
10 db is exponentially louder than a Honda. If someone had never owned a Honda before, thos noise of the Pulsar wouldn't be as annoying as it was to me. I've owned four Honda EU2000s over the years.)))
Ive own two pulsar! yes they are that good!! and one Cummins onan P2500i and one P4500i and for christmas, im getting mt self a cat inv2000. Cant wait to get my hands on that Caterpillar.
My point? Hondas are good and overpriced generators, but my Cummins Onan P4500i is a beast that will eat your four hondas together in noise and power, NO JOKE! and i dont know if is the video but your honda sounds like it has a hammer inside the engine, seriously keep an eye or ear on that lol.
The EU2000 in the video is the noisiest EU2000 I've owned. I bought it used from Home Depot's rental fleet. It had been abused. I sold it not long after this video.
Delta Bravo 👍🏻 glad you where able to sell it, In the future if can, give the Cummins a try, they wont disappoint you and the price is unbeatable 👍🏻 Very good video btw
Delta Bravo u also gave me a good idea to post a video on the ones I currently own and the upcoming CAT can wait for it
Ha ha, why I would never buy a used inverter generator unless basically free. Abused so I'll sell, then next guy buys abused garbage.
This is aggravating to to look at.
It is noisy too.
the new 2000is is quieter