Can you really learn how to TATTOO on an iPad?
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2020
- Tattoo artist and Tattoo Smart founder Russ Abbott guides you though the workflow of a panther head design, demonstrating the steps of the actual tattoo process in a digital format.
Tattoo Smart has developed our most authentic tattoo needle brushes for Procreate on the iPad. With the right mentor to guide you, the Cheyenne Cartridge Brush Set will help you learn the proper methods for lining and shading a tattoo- before you're set loose on human skin.
We advise you to seek the advice of a professional tattoo studio when you are thinking of making the jump to human skin. These brushes are only a tool for adapting the tattoo process to the iPad for practice and study under the close and watchful eye of a professional mentor in a licensed tattoo studio.
To purchase the Cheyenne Cartridge Brush Set for Procreate:
tattoosmart.com/products/brus...
Thank you to Cheyenne Tattoo Equipment for allowing us to create these digital versions of their excellent Safety Cartridges. cheyennetattoo.com/en/tattoo-... - Наука та технологія
OK...I was talking enough trash about this product, I decided I needed to buy it, and try it; along with a number of the adds...like the Cheyenne needle kit Russ was talking about. For the record I have never met or spoken with Russ, and have no other affiliation with Tattoo Smart. My opinion...drum roll please...this fucking rocks. The down side, if you are using this with an apprentice, and are not paying "them" they could be at a disadvantage....especially if you make it a requirement...because the combined expense of the IPAD (mostly IPAD)...expensive. The good news for the apprentice might be get a paying job, make the shop people take out their own trash, and buy everything when they save the money. This too rocks, and as a "training tool" probably has a bigger impact than any other potential experience; with the understanding that tattooing fake skin, and melons...along with yourself..are still requirements. There are a lot of tattooers in the market that simply can't draw, and while that's not a requirement, artistic ability is like...adding 20 years experience to your portfolio. Moreover, this is like the younger "persons" flash...so drop the trash, and spend the rest of your time productively...actually learning to tattoo. Finally, remember pull straight lines...work on getting great saturation...and learn one style before moving on to another; never stop learning new styles because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the quality of tattoo someone has to wear for the rest of their life...or prior to a cover up.
PS.
Never let another tattooer intimidate you by preaching how many years experience they have in the field; you may find out that they have been doing marginal tattoos for the last 20 years. Said differently, its very possible that they don't have 20 years experience....they have 1 year of experience 20 times; and have never built upon that first year.
Aaron Pinson thanks you for the very thoughtful comments. -Russ
This is great for people who need to work on shading. Thanks
This looks like a awesome trick to learn
Bless you! This is amazing!! 🙏
Throughly enjoying using the brushes, Great Job! Mostly use Cheyenne craft needles and this is great for running through a stencil the night before a tattoo. Will most definitely be trying other sets soon.
I'm glad you're enjoying the set how it was intended. Thanks for the comment.
Damn you’ve left a lot of people mad on here. ANY exposure to tattooing while building up your portfolio for an apprenticeship is good exposure. Russ is not saying you have to buy the stencils in this video he’s showing that he’s designed a product that simulates tattooing needles. You could still become a better artist by sketching out your own designs, creating your own stencils and then using this set of brushes to simulate a tattoo. That way you’re not going into the industry blind.
I like the "tattoo artist" in the comments that are complaining how its a stupid idea and not even close, but came to watch a video about how to learn tattooing on an iPad. Obviously its not the same but a great tool. You could also wrap some sports wrap around the pencil to add a similar thickness to the machine. You'd put a pilot in a simulator before telling them to just go fly a plane, no sense in damaging someone or wasting alot of money on fake skin just to learn fundamentals of steady line work or color/shading concepts and layouts.
Just bought this and it was so easy to install on my iPad on procreate if using safari will definitely be doing this step as practice next up is the big meas brush set if you have any others to recommend let me know much appreciated
Just downloaded your free testing pack and so far, it's incredible. The liners and models are particularly special. Gonna play around with shading and colouring the flash stamps. So far I'm loving it
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed Test Drive.
@@Tattoosmart you're welcome. Which pack would you recommend for a complete beginner in tattooing? I am not an apprentice or going to be tattooing anyone, I just love tattoos and love drawing.
Is the test pack still available ?
Russ, great job.
the most detailed tattoo walk through to date... no buzzing just pure knowledge Thanks man
I'm glad you got some value from it.
Hi, Thank you so much for all the videos! A+++
I Love your videos !!!
I think the only thing this is good for is ppl like me, somewhere between regular artist and apprentice (I am not an apprentice yet but I would like to be) to give a (very) basic idea of the difference in drawing/shading with tattoo gun/needle vs drawing with a pencil or marker because it is way different.
I can't find it again in the video, he mentioned in briefly but what page size do I do to make the needles accurately represented?
Hey, Nice video there.
Where can i find the healed skin layers actually?
Wonder if there's a way to program the brushes, so that if you "overwork" the area, it will change the opposite color. Add a bit more reality to it...
This is awesome. I'm excited to try. When you're using the apple pencil, can you have your hand rested on the iPad screen without it interfering with the picture? I don't think I could draw steady with my hand completely off of it.
You can rest your hand on the screen with almost no problems.
Super good practice tips
Thanks, I'm glad you got some value from the video.
Can you do the spitshade set tutorial? It’s been hard doing the shading. Would be cool to see you in action on that set. Overall, the customer service and everything has been spectacular! Just trying to nail down the shading. Wish there were more videos on it. Will check out the Cheyenne cart set as well. My wife has been tattooing for a long time/ creating on procreate and told me the spitshade set is real hard to use since I’m apprenticing for her. I just love the look so much I don’t wanna give up.
Okay, thanks for the suggestion and the feedback. We will work on a Spitshade Set tutorial soon.
The Cheyenne Hawk Pen literally sucks I had two of them and they ruined my tattoo practice for a long time until I got rid of them and now my Tattoos have improved by 95%
can you use cheyenne cartridge's with any rotary tattoo pen machine?
how do you change the direction/orientation of the magnum brushes?
I agree...its a great tool to learn specific concepts and techniques that can be refined...later...on actual skin. That said, I don't think anything can take away the value of stretching the skin, and actually tattooing someone; but that's after the apprentice has learned other ideas on the I-Pad, fake skin, their own skin, and melons. I suggest that all of those mediums offer something different, and after an apprentice has learned everything those tools have to offer...let them start tattooing on others. This is not a magic pill...it's just another tool that can be used by both old and new tattooers. The best has yet to come...I just wonder if older tattooers are willing to share their knowledge and experiences with others. I suggest that most of them are just going to talk shit...trash new tools...and do everything they can to keep new artist out of the industry. Fortunately, everyone knows what they are doing.
Anyone interested in this: Procreate for Apple; and color pallets or swatches mentioned in the video.
Thank u
Please help. My jaw is on the floor and I can't get it off. Love your probucts. As soon as I get an Ipad and get away from android I'll be getting so many of your stuff on it. Keep up the great work.
You can use any iPad that works with an Apple Pencil. Hopefully, there is one that fits into your budget.
What’s thé reference of the iPad ?
Can you guys make a brush set for sketchbook pro.
We are always considering expanding to other apps, but so many of our customers seem very happy with Procreate right now. What makes you prefer Sketchbook Pro?
Does this have found mags and bug pin needles included? Also well is this work to blend colors together? Thanks Ross!
Round*
It does have round mags included. Cheyenne calls them "Soft edge" mags. These brushes are set to blend colors more like they blend using tattoo pigment. The settings inside the brushes cause lighter colors to not be able to cover over darker colors. If we didn't choose this color setting, then yellow would cover over black and that's not how it works in tattooing. You may enjoy working with these brushes because it's more intuitive for how a tattooer usually thinks about applying color.
Can i ask what kind of ipad is this in the video?
Just about o buy a pad.. Not sure wich one and what type.
(hopefully future tatoo artist)
iPad Pro 3rd gen 12.9
A couple quick questions. The site indicates that they (these brushes) are for Ipad Pro. Will they work for any Ipad that is running a current version of Procreate? And lastly. I have seen some grips that emulate the tattoo machine grip experience. Has anyone found any that are close to the size and have a link to share for it?
Yes the Tattoo Smart brushes work with the current version of Procreate! The brushes download directly into the Procreate app from our website
Im at the beginning of my journey to become tatoo artist, as of now im learning and practicing drawing, i know its not the same as the actual skin but having brushes as close as possible to a real thing is obviously very helpful, unfortunetely i have android tablet and im using sketchbook.
IM not sure if its ok to ask that for free, but could you suggest how to make something similar for other apps, theres options to make custom brushes, any suggestion would be amazing how to set up one or two basic brushes.
I think that brushes like this would be possible to make in Sketchbook. It's quite a bit of work just experimenting with settings and source images before you'll end up with something convincing. It's not something we could explain clearly in verbal form.
@@theRussAbbott I got Clip studio Paint on Android, is it avaible there, i also have infinite painter.
Get the app Called Tattapp, it’s even closer , you got ink cups , voltage, picture import, stencil maker and a damage meter to tell you when you’re tearing up the skin.
Tattapp is the closest app to tattooing that I’ve found.
@@samomico9536 Thanks, but its not available on android.
Hey man would you ever consider going through with a tattoo removal in the future?
I've had many tattoos removed and covered over with new ones. You can generally always have a better result from a cover up if you get a few sessions of laser first to lighten everything up. Go for it!
@@theRussAbbott my thought process is rather then a cover up getting them fully removed if possible?
@@rossmurrayfam1568 Full removal can take quite a few sessions over a long period of time, but it is possible in most cases. I've never gone through full removal personally.
its just only for ipad pro ? not ipad classic ?
It works on all iPads that work with an Apple Pencil.
Obviously this isn’t going to compare to tattooing on a real person or fake skin or whatever but this is good for people like me who would love to have a go at trying to draw tattoo styles on their iPad, I could never be a tattoo artist and I’ve always wanted to be but I have a condition that makes my hands really shaky and drawing it on the iPad is as close as I’ll ever get.
Hey Keep your head up and stay positive. You can still make great artwork and even tattoo related artwork. It sucks to go through stuff in life but there’s always a way around it. Keep hustling and grinding. You got this 😉😁
My hands have always been shaky too and I learned to overcome that with the way that I hold my machine and the way I place my hand on the clients skin. You totally CAN tattoo if you just don’t give up
Does it include round mags ?
Absolutely. Cheyenne refers to round mags as "soft edge magnums". You'll find them included in the set.
I bought these and struggling with the fade to get that spit shade effect like with watercolor has anyone tried these yet ? Any help
Buy the spit fade set on the website to get a watercolour style. This set is more like whip shading like tattoo on skin.
Get the app called Tattapp, it’s a tattoo simulator app that’s wayyyy better than the brush set.
Sadly I’m working off iPhone and a qtip
Anyone know an android version for this❓
Is this works for ipad air 2019?
James Peralta As long as Procreate and Apple Pencil work on your iPad, then this is compatible.
What app is that
kiven8 gibson procreate
What the size of your iPad please ?
12.9
Bigger the better lady...don't go small!
Can I use the actual tattoo machine on the computer screen ?
Just once...and as for your dog...I tried and I'm not sure my Great Dane will ever forgive me.
Just make sure the needle hits the Screen Hard enough and dont forget the ink.
What about Microsoft surface?
This particular brush set only works with Procreate app on the iPad.
Is there a skin damage indicator in this?
yes i think so
We assume you’re probably joking, but no. The idea with this as a learning tool is that an experienced tattooer would be guiding you on how your hand should move and helping you to understand how really tattooing will be similar and also how it will be different. There is a lot that can be understood about the tattooing methods and workflow if you use this set along with a mentor guiding you. Without that mentor, it would not be very informative on how tattooing actually works.
@@Tattoosmart i was mistaken I thought this was a tattapp video
Tattoo Smart no I wasn’t joking. I went through an apprenticeship. Was just wondering cuz another app has the damage indicator.
@@jessejames1508 what app?
Ayy my name is Cheyenne! Finally the same spelling!
That was cool! Imagine a «tattoo-machine» stylus with that... Guess you could fasten the Apple pen where the needle and grip is fastened on a gun😜
What on a desert eagle? Or an AK? Maybe a glock?
@@jorge_tat2358 Oh, I forgot. "gun" is a no no word for the professionals, woopsie. Hope you have a nice day🙏🙏😊😊
Dose anyone now the of the app
Humb3rt094 G. Procreate for apple
Procreate for apple. Moreover, look for the digital color swatches or color pallets
This is dope who do I give my money too
I didn’t get the color palette
The digital palette swatch maps are no longer available, but the Abbott Color Wheel has a swatch map of all Eternal ink colors as the base layer.
Try and make the pen like a tattoo machine , now that would be cool 🇬🇧👍
Dude this currently runs at double the price of procreate.... for a brush set... so 200% the price for an additional 0.1% of functionality... insane
Best way to learn is tattoo people
Baby steps...I-Pad, fake skin...their shin...and then other people. It's just a tool...not a magic pill.
What aize of iPad pro is this?
10.5 inch
12.9
give me i pad tattoo artist to make me a tattoo 🤣🤣
you can just screenshot the eternal ink palette lol...
Go ahead and screenshot it. If it you can't afford to buy it and support the creators then we will just have to rely on those that will.
You can learn in 6 month just search Ben Fisher tattoo method pro
How do you drive a mag around a corner? What about angle and depth? How about curved mags? Who uses 12 different needle sizes on a 30-minute panther? YES! What about tuning that mag? ...
“I want to be strict and not undo anything” continues to delete his line on the left eye he did.
Teflon John force of habit. You got us on that one.
Tattoo Smart I use procreate too and it’s so easy to tap with two fingers to erase the last stroke you did it does become a habit. Good brush set though. Keep up the good work guys.
You actually need an apprenticeship and artistic background. In my opinion that doesnt help a lot. The actual maschine has another weight as an apple pencil. Plus so many ways to tattoo with so many maschines and configurations (the stroke, the speed, the power and so on). And every skin is different. So in my opinion if you want to learn tattooing just find a good Studio and hard work to learn coz there are so many factors in tattooing and you will need so much time to figure it out all alone (if possible) and in that time you may injure others or yourself. Btw i got an apprenticeship to see how fool i was trying it all alone.
There are some techniques that can be learned on the I Pad; just like using fake skin…think baby steps. As for the apprenticeships…most are bullshit…filled with bitch work…and very little is learned in the process. That said, I agree that mentorship can make and shape an upcoming tattoo artist. The problem is the apprenticeships don’t involve mentorship…it’s bitch work. I have heard argument supporting apprenticeships: “There is no reason for me to offer anyone else the skills I have learned…they have all to gain, and I have nothing.” I get it…but the tattoo artist who feel that way should man up and say it; unless belittling up and coming artist is their thing. It’s basically…we will make them suffer, and If they are still around in a year…maybe I’ll teach them something.
I suspect that old bikers, who belonged to a biker club, started the idea of a year long hazing apprenticeship; its very much like the probationary period on the biker clubs. As such, they flip you enough shit to see if you will stick around and take it. Frankly, that has nothing to do with artistic value; it's an excuse and permission slip to fuck with people. .
He'll know it's not the same don't waste your money buying the brushes
Skin , screen . Duh samething
You can not learn to tattoo like this! Only way to learn how to tattoo is by tattooing. This is a great tool for making great stencils or practicing but that's it.
Couldn't agree more!
This is the tech industry trying to procure money from the tattoo industry, not even close
Okay, that's about as inaccurate as you being a Doctor of Delinquent Aquatic Creatures.
yea....idk, cool idea but not sure. Thats purely Traditional. The only true way to tattoo when your learning is to tattoo a melon or like fake skin and fake skin sucks. So melon. Once again, cool idea tho for practice.
It's just a tool...not a magic pill. Moreover, it offers other opportunities to learn new ideas that are refined on skin. So, baby steps: I-Pad, Melon, fake skin, their shin, and then on people.
No, you can't learn how to tattoo on an iPad lmao.
Nope but you can definitely learn how to make stencils and sketches on an iPad. But the actual tattooing part you’ll only learn from experience lol
@@tattoosbysaoirsewells5204 facts.
@Joshua Lind also facts.
@Joshua Lind Interesting position to take. I think the I Pad is a great resource for tattooers; new and old. The physical application of a tattoo can only be learned by stretching the skin, and running a line, on a person. However, other technics, and the ideas of how you are going to apply them, can be learned on the I Pad…skills which can be refined later…on the skin. This goes along with color choice, and needle selection. Frankly, those that refuse to recognize the benefits of technology today, are tattooers who want to restrict the number of others getting into the field. I suggest that this is because they don’t want added completion, and the loss of income that might come with that increase. This idea that new apprenticeships require a year or more of bitch work before they begin to learn to tattoo is bullshit; and frankly is reminiscent of probees in a biker club. I suggest, that the tattoo world has yet to see the best…artist from all over are embracing the culture; and some have more artistic ability than some old tattooers.
@Joshua Lind Maybe, but my experience has shown that tattooers who cant draw...suck. Like I said...this is not a magic pill, the only thing that matters is what goes on the skin, and if its a beautiful tattoo, who cares what artistic process the tattooer used to transcend into who they are today.
What a joke just a way too make money off people
U cant learn how to tattoo on a ipad.. #1 skin is not hard and smooth like the iPad glass #2 tattoo needles aren't smooth like a ipad pen plus it doesn't vibrate like a tattoo machine. This only helps u to draw but tattooing a real person is completely different.. if u want to learn how to tattoo just use fake skin that way u can have an idea if ur goin to deep into someone skin.. this is a cool app for drawing but
We completely agree, but we also feel that this helps in many ways to practice the techniques of tattooing and to develop the movements and the order of operations in a tattoo- especially with a mentor to guide you.
an ipad screen is not skin and no its not the same risk as tattooing a person.
The answer is no lol
never you can learn tattoing with i pencil and ipad man...
Goran Sto it’s not an “iPeNciL”. 🙄🤦🏿♂️
I don't think the argument is that you are going to learn to tattoo on the I Pad. I realize he said that, but I would argue that he actually misspoke. I also argue that there are idea and concepts that can be learned on the I-pad, and refined on the skin. I didn't see or hear this guy argue that its a magic pill...its just a new tool for both new and old artist. I get it...older tattooers don't want to forget the old way...or the way they learned...but newer technology is available now; embrace it, and make your tattoos stronger than they were. Then...come up with other ways to fuck over and torcher your new apprentice. I wonder...why can't old tattooers just admit that they are doing everything they can to keep new artists out of the business...
All good tattoos start with a stencil, which is based on the drawing. Therefore...better drawing...better stencil...equals better tattoo.
Tattapp looks better than this
This is just ridiculous ... Can't get my head around it that people consider this as a real training tool... Just get fake skin, for Christ sake.
It's absolutely a training tool with potential to fit in between drawing on paper and tattooing on fake skin. If you watch the video, we are not trying to make an unrealistic assertion about the iPad's utility in learning to tattoo. It's a tool that can contribute to the tattoo design process. Not a replacement for every other tool that works.
So it has a “pecker-track” setting? ...cooooool... Does it have the option to set the unit of measure to “cunt-hairs?” How does the foot-pedal work? ...So does “streamline” leave room for machine speed adjustment? People are round and squishy. iPads are flat and hard... Glowing skin? Lamp placement matters. Learning to see a moving needle tip matters. STRETCHING THE SKIN MATTERS. This is nothing like tattooing.
Claro que No!!. las técnicas son completamente distintas, la técnica del tattoo implica muchisimo más aspectos a desarrollas que el ipad.. jamás podrías compararlo.. es cómo querer igualar el dibujo que la pintura... No existen ni referencias para poder igualarlas!!..