3 Worst Leadership Styles
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- In our quest to study and improve our own leadership abilities, it is wise to also study ineffective leadership techniques.
We all know and have worked for leader who are knuckle heads.. and incompetent. Sadly, in my special forces career I had a few leaders who I wouldn’t follow into my favorite Mexican restaurant… even if they were offering to pay.
Let’s take a look at three of the worst leadership techniques out there…
Leadership by Email
Leadership by Pulling Rank
Leadership by Buzz Words, Clichés & Platitudes
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00:00 Introduction
01:03 Leadership by Email
02:40 Pulling Rank
04:17 Buzz Words, Clichés & Platitudes
06:27 Repeaters
I had a boss tell me that "if you have to tell someone your title, you're not doing your job right" . That has stuck with me ever since.
That goes hand-in-hand with chasing job titles
Also people from the outside should easily be able to tell who is in charge.
I heard "if you have to tell someone you're in charge, you're not in charge"
He should be a good boss.
"Anybody who has to say 'I am king' is no true king." -Tywin Lannister
You forgot the "leader" that constantly yells, screams, demeans and cusses. After about two minutes of that the subordinate has mentally checked out. Poor leadership is one of the biggest reasons good Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines do not reenlist.
Who wants a failure as a leader
we should reeintroduce the Classics like mutiny and killing the superior officer
The best typically reenlist because they know and understand the impermanence of supervisors and leaders, just as we were informed in basic training. Impatient, snowflake enlisteds that forget that, want everything perfect now and forever, and typically desire more recognition than they deserve as well. They fake injuries and illnesses more often too. They are interested in numero uno only, cutting corners, lacking in transparency or openness and join cliques (women are the worst about creating and joining complaint cliques). Put two women in a unit and they'll gravitate to each other for whining and rumoring. If your unit is half or more women, they become catty and start going for each other's throats. You may get a woman who has been appointed to be in charge of a project, because leadership thinks she's hot, and she needs bullets in her performance report; or else they will lie about her involvement and inflate her influence and direct action in a project or mission. This has been going on for decades. Female enlisteds operate at a totally different bar of performance. We expect less, so we get less, and we're happy to promote them.
In active duty, chances are good that if you are good, you'll become a leader at some point, even if it is temporary or as a test, or simply put in charge of completing a particular project (short term or long term project or mission), and you'll also screw it up until you learn by experience what motivates others learning as you go, or you'll not change to suit the feedback you are getting or refusing to hear. The best are patient and not so reactive to minor discomforts of following a new leader. The best enlisteds fight for feedback from subordinates and superiors, and spend more time listening and responding than talking. This goes for both followers and leaders.
the smallest dogs bark the loudest
This on so many levels, I had a 1SG that would bitch about his exwife while we were in final formation.
Being a lower enlisted during my time the worst leaders for me where the ones who pulled the rank card.
There’s no such phrase as lower enlisted. Try junior or novice enlisted(ee).☮️🇺🇸☯️
@@d.wright2725 there’s obviously such a phrase since he just used it. Gtfoh tool
I dislike the leader that "confides" in you about the faults of other comrades or fellow leaders. I can be 100% sure that he also does this to me behind my back.
There is a level of acceptable confidence in your suboordinates. Every leader should have a level of personal understanding with their suboordinates, but there are limitations. A leader who can pick out the faults in his comrades and superiors will hopefully learn from their mistakes and faults to fix their own.
However, gossiping about them is a flaw in and of itself, and may undermine team trust within the organization. Confidence is not all bad, but it needs to have its boundaries.
When I took the Q-course, the guys from the 10th group who were instructors never talked about their rank, some of them did marches with a backpack with us, they were an example for us. There was a lot of personal communication and they spoke in a simple way with humor.
Pvt. Denver 'Bull' Randleman: I'm gonna say something.
Pvt. George Luz: To who?
Randleman: Lieutenant Winters!
Lt. Richard Winters: What is it?
Randleman: Permission to speak, sir.
Winters: Granted.
Randleman: Sir, we got nine companies, sir.
Winters: We do.
Randleman: Well, how come we're the only one marching every Friday night, twelve miles, full pack, in the pitch dark?
Winters: Why do you think, Private Randleman?
Randleman: Lieutenant Sobel hates us, sir.
Winters: Lieutenant Sobel does not hate Easy Company, Private Randleman. ... He just hates you.
Randleman: Thank you, sir.
When I attended IOBC, there was a senior instructor at formerly Benning who was a SFC who really carried himself well, really knew his stuff, and was an outstanding teacher. He was truly a role model to us young 2LTs learning how to be infantry ossifers. Later learned he had been a major who got passed over twice thanks to the Army’s promotion system and was afforded the courtesy of finishing out his 20 as an E7. He made an impact on all his students. It’s been like 35 years and I can’t remember his name.
As a leader, it should be known that your subordinates will always have an opinion of you. If you stay in a nice warm tent while your section is freezing at 3am in a trench, they might start to hold some negative opinions. But if your that leader who’s willing to put in some work and lead by example your troops will do anything for you.
I would like to mention the micro-manager and the detached elitist: the former kills initiative and subverts the development of leadership abilities among subordinates by making them afraid to make a move without his specific input, and the latter provides little to no guidance, leaving everyone uncoordinated unsure of their part in the mission, and unable to prepare and coordinate.
I worked with an individual that when they were in a leadership position, always had to walk away and check with his superior before going ahead. It seriously bogged us down and impeded the team efforts. He finally self selected out. Nice guy, but afraid to make a decision on his own.
@@SocialistDistancing Too many infantry units breed this type of leader. In some instances that I've personally witnessed, guys up to SSG weren't even able to operate autonomously without a go from PSG/LT/1SG permission, even for simple shit like "Hey we just finished all go-home tasks, i'm going to take my guys out and practice BD6". It was a 50/50 chance if they were actually able to go train or not, and if the leadership decided no, they sat in the Cof with their thumbs up their ass until COB because that's all they were allowed to do
Sadly, this our top government leaders these days. It seems to have become a bipartisan affair. The current administration is now suffering because the President is just too old and the bench was not deep. There’s a lot of bright people with little experience trying to make it up as they go along.
"Learn to obey before you command" Solon of Athens
I had a guy like this in the fire academy. He literally was one of the smartest cadets in the class and happened to have gone through another academy prior so he thought his shit didn’t stink. He talked down to everyone and barked orders all the time. No one liked him and he almost got kicked out. Some of the people who feel they need to lead are usually the super insecure people who haven’t properly been put in place.
Even using phrases such as “lower enlisted” can show so much about who you are as a person and a leader. you may not even realize the impact it can have on other service members. Imagine other actions we do every day as leaders that makes us look bad. The army was the place that showed me that words truly matter
I’ve never thought of this as a negative thing in my mind before, I think I should use something like “e-4 and below” now
@@randomjake1488 never thought of it as bad either but i can see why they would want to change the phrase to junior instead of lower ranking
Nobody I ever worked with had an issue with “lower” enlisted as a term. It’s about people being selectively sensitive about stupid shit now. Same with dog tags and everything else. 1 is a low number on a scale of 1 to 9. E-1 lower than an E-2. Therefore, they are lower enlisted. Nobody is trying to say they’re lower as a person or shit and if that’s all they can see, they need to open their eyes or get the fuck out.
@@NotWorthTheAirIBreathe well thats the military now so🤷
The narrator and host of this channel was one of the best leaders I’ve ever served with and even though we’re both retired, I’d still follow him anywhere.
Yeah, but what about that guy who sends you an email full of buzzwords to let you know they outrank you?
satan himself
this example of a REMF does not get to play the big kid really stupid games
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Based
reply to him all the emperors outranked their Praetorian guards in theory
As someone who has most of my career in intelligence, the field fosters and harbors the largest contingent of blue falcons. The level of scum and villainy is only surpassed by lawyers and politicians.
Leave it the Col to show us the way! 3-325 stays alive lmao! 🎉🎉🎉
as some1 who was in the S-4 that dealt with S-2 on daily basis. You guys Article 15 or try to get enough to NJP a junior enlisted on minor infractions no1 would really care about. Also the non-recs is amazing. way to kill morale. dunno if thats how its run throughout the whole intel community but for the 2 units i was with, it rang true.
In the Corps, we had the "coffee cup gunnys". Just pining away towards retirement with mininal effort, passed over for First Sargaent. Completely useless.
@@evilchaperone They're on the R.O.A.D. program.
I really appreciate you making this video.
In my time as a leader for different things, I had made several of the mistakes you listed. I wrote verbose emails, I repeated myself so often that it annoyed my subordinates, and I had trouble seeing the fault in what I was doing. Making long winded and verbose speeches to say simple things and to repeat it constantly only detracts people from what you are saying. Part of being an effective communicator, as all leaders should be, is getting engagement from your audience. If you aren't engaging your audience then you are failing regardless of how flawlessly you hit a 4k word mark on your document. And the biggest hurdle for me was overcoming that idea of my infallibility through word-count, when instead I should be almost exclusively focusing on getting the message across instead.
Of course old habits die hard, and this comment is evidence of that.
Thank you, sir.
Fellow verbose-leader type here 😬
Being concise is really hard when you're trying to paint a picture with words, rather than convey information.
But also, editing takes so much damn time. Ugh lmao
I hate pulling rank or pulling seniority. I’ve had that before.
I remember before hitting the fleet I was told to always respect rank but that doesn’t mean you have to respect the individual. You also have to be mindful to not blur the two together because that’ll get you in trouble.
I remember as a 2LT I had a problem sergeant. In his defense, all our sergeants had gotten burned by bad planning at the Pentagon level and knew they were all pretty much doomed to never making E7. This did not help their attitudes.
One day this sergeant finally got to me, and I called him in my office to give him a chance to explain and ended up yelling at him and reminding him who was who. I knew I had failed even though he really had it coming.
He really missed a chance. Whenever you really want to get one over on the boss, all you have to do is take responsibility, explain how and why you should have done better, and say there really isn’t an excuse. They teach this in the military, yet most just don’t learn. It’s like punching your boss in the nose and they aren’t allowed to punch back! One time I did that to my real dirt bag commander. He dismissed me, called his XO into his office, and chewed him out!😂🤣😂 XO couldn’t even be mad at me. 🤣😂🤣
I hate all 3; especially leaders who use all 3. The worse were officers who had no trust in their SNCOs and NCOs, some of these officers have almost gotten people killed without the intervention of others.
I suffered fools who used all three of these leadership types when I served in the Canadian Army.
Oh yeah. Leadership by email. What a balless way to lead or hold people accountable. Use it to reinforce in person communication and leadership. Never substitute.
I've been there so many times. As you were talking, I was listing individuals that fit into each category.
Yeah, the email wizard is the worst by today’s standards. I have been a leader for most my life, I don’t micromanage, I instruct subordinates to develop quality of thought, pay attention to detail, be polite and considerate of others, demand truth, accountability and lastly never lose your cool. People who lose it never can get back to where they could have been, they will always be damaged.
I agree about not leading by rank, however there are situations where a more authoritarian management style will be necessary. This is especially true if the people assigned to you do not want to be there, and do not want to work. I remember one of the worst assignments on the worst shift was sent to the worst employees. Being a line supervisor on that line was a real joy(sarcasm).
Sadly may find yourself in charge of people that will only appreciate someone that either lets them do what they want and "respect" someone that makes them fear the consequences of non-compliance. There are often details and assignments where screw ups are assigned. In some jobs there is usually a shift and assignment where all of the undesirable employees get moved. Being a leader in these situations requires a more authoritarian approach if you don't want them to walk all over you.
These assignments require ask, tell, make. Often times every order, suggestion, or thing that you say will become an argument, because they seek to test the fence and see what they can get away with. In these situations, instead of endlessly discussing "why" the orders are they are, you may find it is far simpler to remind them exactly where they are on the pecking order, what your rank is, what their rank is, and what their consequences will be for non-compliance.
Whenever I get assigned to lead or train someone in a detail that wants to be there, I rarely if ever need to mention rank. Usually I never get past ask, and occasionally tell. Most of the conversation is informal and pleasant, and most of the leading is by example. When I find myself routinely having to go all the way to make, then I know I need to start reminding people of the pecking order.
In these situations managers need to start making examples and holding people accountable. They need to experience consequences to get their act together. No more arguing, no more discussion, they do what they are told when they are told or they will be held accountable. No more opinions about the management, supervisors are in charge, period. If they are that kind of employee and quit that won't be a loss, if they get their act together, then they might be salvageable.
Had a PL that lead by email except with me since I was the RTO and I was always about 10 steps ahead of the rest of the platoon and was often the main source of guidance for my fellow joes. It's not hard to become a leader, it is hard to be a great one however.
I'm totally laughing 😮 I work for a company in Australia & experience every word of this summarisation 👌 I completed 10 years of service last October & that was acknowledged last Tuesday 😂 I do the most volume of work & I'm treated like an insignificant shadow 😶
It's everywhere that I can see. The 'Californians' are in charge of everything because they realized they can bullshit their way to the top. I doubt this will be corrected anytime soon, at least in America. Hopefully, things turn around faster elsewhere, but I am sure it will be the slowest in the US.
My favorite is the leader who forgets all the subordinates' names. I remember some dumb LT running through the tent at night waking everyone up yelling "Who was it that I told to do this!?" He told someone to go out and take care of something, but couldn't remember who it was and needed to get ahold of them.
"Any man who says I am the king is no true king"
Im glad this video is on UA-cam. It helps bring awareness to the red flags of poor leadership. Thank you very much!
I just found this canal on my card, watched few films and it's really helpful. No complications, just things u need to understand if u want join SOF. Short, but pithy, essential. This encouraged me to take a look at books. Thanks man.
I truly liked this post. It also showed me what I need to be paying more attention to about my current career and the bosses over me as well as myself….thanks I appreciate this!!!
I had a Sgt who didn't wear his full kit to a STT (Sergeants Time & Training) and when I asked him why he wasn't wearing it, he just pointed at the rank on his chest and basically told me to fuck off
The worst is definitely pulling rank, especially when you're correcting them and they wipe their ass with it
Thank you for making your videos.
I never served, your videos are informative & inspiring. I work in public transportation. I'm in a foreman position, so leadership is important to me. To my other colleagues, it varies. Some just give out assignments , some help. Some say I don't wanna hear it.
You 3 are good examples but you can make a series of these videos. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you for the valuable information provided.
I have worked for bad leaders in the Civilian arena done all four idiotic no-leadership concepts you mentioned. Things never went well, and I got out as soon as I could. I once mentioned that a great leader should 'Lead from the Front' to one of the really bad ones I worked for, and he was legitimately confused by the look on his face. A couple of days later he said I would be promoted to the next level if I "went along more with his {poor} decisions." Neither of those things happened, hence my next job started a month or so later.
A former U.S. Air Force Academy cadet here, who could not reach the new 'minimum' Grade-Point average raised up right after the Vietnam War official ended for the United States. I worked hard to be accepted in 1974, and even with that I have remained one 48 years later.
By the way, I was one of 1630 young men, with an additional 22 who would not sign the commitment paperwork and were therefore not counted (which really 'irked' me seeing them standing on the side since they used spots others would have liked), entering the Air Force Academy as cadets in 1974, and only 981 graduated in 1978. The rumor at my dismissal was the the DOD had limited all future academies to 999 graduates each year - so I guess that rumor was true at the time.
I definitely can relate to all 3 of these. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
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Thank you for that awesome video and great advice
pulling rank for me inadvertently achieves the opposite of what is intended: I lose repect for that person. I don't really give a crap what poeple say, it's what we do that makes us who we are. And people in particular hiding behind rank (mostly) preach water but drink wine.
Thank you for posting this. I want to be a good leader. This helps.
Love it, sharing to my Facebook feed 🥋🙏
I love the story of the OOD on the USS Bonhomme Richard who texted the captain to tell him his ship was on fire.
Good points. Some ideas for a follow up that might help me is how to change from being a poor leader to a good or even great leader. These points are pretty straightforward. I see these all the time. How to cope and how to overcome these things might help me personally.
Don’t be an asshole. Learn to reflect, and think “Would I want to be lead like this?”
"Any man who must say i am the king is no true king" - tywin lannister
I loathe the rank leadership style. It’s obviously important to have rank and structure in the military, but rank does not make you a leader.
No man is a Leader until it has been ratified in the hearts and minds of his men.
Great video as always, "leadership by email" is something I have seen fail many times and is a term applicable to other approaches not evolving specifically email too
Text messaging
The buzz word cliché leaders really tested my patience with there word salads. Sgt Maj we are pogs no one is going to give us the time of day on the range and "enable us to assist our infantry brothers and sisters." To further add to this point, none of that helps anyway unless we do stress shooting room clearing and combat drills consistently. Once a year doesn't make us combat effective. Final point if we are getting involved in the fight something has already gone wrong and you have not trained us for that either. So much for train how you fight
When in a special operations community and working with different branches, pulling rank is needed sometimes to make sure the plan is clear and concise. Remember Black Hawk Down?
I only had to pull rank once in my entire career. It was effective, and I got the results I needed, immediately, but only because I only pulled rank once in my entire career. My reluctant subordinate knew that the (dangerous) thing I wanted him to do must be absolutely necessary or I wouldn’t have ORDERED him to do it.
I love how I can hear the frustration.
Picture on 2:48. Anyone who’s ever gone to Navy OCS at Newport knows that CKZ very well. Seeing that brought back memories
I love how Ipayed atention to this video, even though I will never be a leader in the military; let alone special ops
I really, REALLY HATE the 3rd kind especially! Cuz they usually tend to impress equally moronic inferiors/juniors AND superiors/seniors! Which then leads to more, and longer chain of BS...
Always people throw rank at me even when they were wrong. However, it did teach me how to be a better leader. Sometimes somebody doesn't understand my commands, so I make it a note to...understand them myself. I will elaborate on why it is important. If there idea meets the criteria, than we will go with that. Otherwise, we will do it my way and if it doesn't work out...well everyday is a school day.
Man really fit in the synergy meme in the platitude part
🤣 your impression of the politician was flipping hilarious!! 😂
I swear, this explains just about every leader I have had in EMS.
I never feel satisfied in society, but I feel really satisfied by my coaches and my satisfaction comes beyond people and society, so for me society is redundant not important not interested
I am surrounded by all three of these examples!
6:10 hey Lt. Col BF you forgot to say that youll do it becoming a force multiplier
3:20 😂 that was really really really funny and 5:33 was the chef’s kiss
you just described the us navy swo (surface warfare officer) perfectly, there are those 10 to 15% exceptions to this rule but for the most part they usually fall somewhere in these three categories
Email is a reminder of something you have face to face talked about so someone can easily get the spark notes of the conversation and may forget or specific stuff they need to fill a form with. The book, “get to the point” good pocket guide. Platitudes, I don’t speak Latin.
I had a GS try to get me to type out a document for them. I simply said "I'm not your secretary".
more leadership vids please. as a leader I demand it!
If you must demand it, then leadership is not working ...
HAHAHAH I love the buzz word comments. Sounds like my commander I had once. Like just talk like a normal person! LOL the LTC reference was spot on! OR To Caveat off of what so and so said..
Leadership by buzzwords is probably the most common leadership stile
I had a situation recently where a co-worker and I weren't seeing eye to eye on a task.
Instead of going into an argument, I chose to ask "Alright what is it that you need me to do in detail to help you with?" From my experience as a student in school, sometimes its better to give the other person the chance to say their peace and let them lead you (to an extent). Builds trust and de-escalates any potential argument.
I've never seen a video that I agree with more.😅
As a low level leader in the civilian workplace I always tell my guys "I will never tell you to do something I have not done or will not do, my boots will be the first here and the last to leave". If my guys screw up I take the blame and train them respectfully to not screw up in the future. On both sides of the fence I have learned that people will do a better job and work harder if they respect you rather then fear you. My dad once told me "you will never have to tell someone how good you are at something, they will tell you".
Thanks.
Spot on…
People are fascinating.
I believe anyone who has served knows some of these other career fields in the military more so but, atleast in the military it is apart of your conscious mind to think about these sorts of things and to some degree people can be put into check when you get back into the civilian world is when you really start getting frustrated.
Perfect.
Please do another on good ways to led
Bro I absolutely lost it at falcon
Those based upon: religion, identity politics, personal beliefs, title, inflexibility, feeling threatened, threatening, coercive, etc
Leadership by pulling rank is one of the worst
"There are two kinds of soldiers in this world.
The first kind is the one that follow the rules in the book to the letter and the second kind are those that gets the job done." Jake McNiece "filthy thirteen".
Since i am a somewhat informal leader because of knowledge and experience in my field of expertice i prefer to get the job done.
I enjoyed the comedy despite it being a serious topic 😂
so true....
The best leaders lead by example!
What do you do when people challenge your authority? I don't want to pull the rank card, but some people need to be reminded. or maybe i should just get rid of them or pull them off of the assinement & put someone competent on that instead. And then that person can get the reward.
I remember the saying, if you have to tell someone your in charge, you're not in charge.
Leaders lead and make it so their people can succeed. When the leaders people succeed the leader succeeds and that’s about as win win as you can get.
Speaking of leadership and management, how close did "Dilbert" reflect your time in service?
I could never imagine a 2LT looking an RI dead in the face and demand the “lowing ranking” RI to respect his rank.
Oh damn, I often repeat myself meetings. I thought I had a good rationale: only to highlight a critical points, or, because a lot of my staff speak English as a second language, I paraphrase what I just said to ensure understanding.
“That’s what it’s all about. That’s the name of the game. THAT’S how we make our money!"
I quit a job I had for 18years for basically these very reasons
Always I insist they are right. Always blame others....never accept criticism or blame
I have worked with and met everyone of these type of people both in the air force and in civilian life......there are too many of them....
I want to post this on my Battery group chat soooo bad😂
My plt sgt is a leadership by rand and email. Gotta say that it's ass working Under him
the first one could be called "leadership through absence"
6:10... what the FCK! I've been there, this major who then of course went col could drone on like that for hours and stretch a 5min brief into a 90...the cure for insomnia.
The Peter Principal
Rise the level of their incompetentance
To many cases of poor leadership have lead to disaster in Military History
Napoleon sent letters all day every day, but his men saw him in the front constantly.
Sometimes that abuse of words might also be called “word salad;” the worst tasting of all-thank you.
Does 'Just to piggy back on what he said--' a 3rd type of bad leadership?
IOT Enable FOM on The OBJ.