If true (the assault), this is heartbreaking.. ANY number of things may of occurred and other remaining members are rarely in a position to speak out for fear of losing their careers or being stigmatized. Someone needs to put the same strict regulations on those companies that the companies put on idols; and authorities must investigate. These company’s have carte blanche to shape whatever narrative they want with zero accountability to public let alone the impressionable young idols who companies passively dismiss or expel (ruining their lives and creating mental health challenges that can effect idols and former idols for the rest of their lives and/or create the pathway to idols ending it) and most times the way the company carelessly goes about announcing departures never truly reveals the truth whether there is a mental health crisis (or who/what caused the mental health issues), whether it’s a drummed up accusation (who it originated from or why) and any outcomes or if actual ‘crimes’ have taken place by either idols or the company’s themselves… at some point Kstans need to demand accountability and transparency with just as much tenacity as they do when they jump on cancel culture bandwagons based off of gossip. I believe that the companies do far more heinous things behind the scenes than we’ll ever be a party to but the burden of outcomes & consequences lay on backs of/ the mental health of and lives of the fallen young idols whose lives are forever changed.
1. It’s pronounced ‘Daimon’ (다이몬) 2. HM/NV/SSQ always uploaded bigger announcements on Fan Café in the case of DXMON 3. No one ever saw bruises on any DXMON member 4. I am sorry If I come off as rude, but as a fan who has followed them since they uploaded their first predebut vlog, I really need people to stop speaking on Jo, he wanted to leave and he deserves to rest but because you all are bringing up this thing over and over again you are putting his future at risk in case he wants to redebut one day. Because companies don‘t really want trainees who had „scandals“ or were involved in controversies. There is a reason nothing was disclosed. And there probably won’t be any more news. The articles came out in JUNE and there were no updates on the articles until now so there probably won’t be any in the future. There is a reason people who are ACTUALLY in the fandom and not just solo stans don’t talk about it anymore because we already did back in june and we came to the conclusion that spreading rumours is not helping Jo or the other members. If one day Jo gets to come forward and share his story, I’ll gladly listen but until then I really hope that people just let him be. He made this decision and he deservers to live a happy teen life, being with friends and attending school. Just let him rest please. (And yes the situation is fishy but there is nothing we can do and spreading this is not helping Jo at all)
Firstly, I understand that you are a fan so with respect to you being a fan I will address you with a little bit more tact, but I will get straight to the point. In this video, I’m reporting on DXMON’s Jo and I literally said it’s (alleged) several times for the sake of making sure that people do not misunderstand my intentions, and why I am reporting on this. All I do is make people aware of things and address the potential, serious situation or situation’s that either are occurring, or that may occur in the world of K-pop. One of the things that bothers me to no end is when people tell me that I’m doing something wrong when I’m not, when people tell me that I’m spreading misinformation, when I’m literally just reporting on what has already been stated, and I report on it respectfully by not stating speculations or rumors as fact, but I make it very clear so that people can understand and for people to constantly do this to me is quite annoying. Someone literally did this to me when I was reporting on n.SSign’s, Eddie. I understand that you are probably in your feelings, and whilst I understand where you’re coming from, I don’t appreciate being told that I’m doing some thing that I’m honestly not doing. I’m not spreading misinformation or rumors. I’m making it known that there were rumors, but also that those rumors are simply that, unless something is going on and is revealed. If you watched my video in its entirety, you would see that and perhaps maybe this would not be a conversation. I know what I did, and I stand by what I did, please do not misunderstand what I’ve done or call it something that it’s not. I would appreciate that.
And let me address for a moment what I said about him getting bruised. Because I don’t think that you are stating what I said exactly the way I said it. It sounds to me like you’re saying that It is MY belief that he got bruised, as if I’m making a declarative statement that yes he got bruised… If you paid attention, you will know, that is not what I said, and that’s not how I said what I said. What I said about many of the allegations is that I don’t know where they’re coming from, first and foremost. I said, “I don’t know if they saw pictures of him having a bruise or some thing on his body”… That’s what I said. I did not say he got bruised or that it’s a FACT that he was hurt physically. My statements were questioning the allegations brought forth by fans, not confirming them. So please stop misrepresenting what I’m saying because it is not true. I also gave my opinion that this may not be over, and it may not be… Who’s to say for certain? So there’s a opinions, speculations, and I addressed the rumors appropriately, what are you talking about? I’m trying to get out of the habit of replying to these kind of comments, but I’m not gonna sit here and read this comment and just let you tell me what I did was wrong by you twisting around what you believe I did, and not looking at what I actually did in this video because you have hurt feelings. I don’t like playing games like this. Just be honest and tell me that the truth is you just don’t want people talking about it. You don’t have to lie on me to get me to stop.
@@moonlight_antonio You are saying that you are only sharing that there is this rumour and that is in my pov the same thing as spreading a rumour. In that way people who don't even know the group will find out about it and Jo will be labeled as a absue case. Because you should know aswell that people will treat it as facts. Even if you tell them 20000 times that it is only rumours and nothing is confirmed. And I know that that is not your fault but still something that should be taken into consideration. And yeah, my problem is exactly that you are sharing the rumours. Because it will lead to labels being pressed on Jo. Labels that could potential ly harm his future in case he wants to re-debut one day. Even though your intention may be just to spread the "news" this is not helpfull to Jo. At this point I just want people to let him be because like I sad he deserves to rest. He is just a teenage boy now and he should be treated as such. Eddies situation is a whole different story because Eddie himself spoke up. Eddies case is not a rumour but something where people actually know that something happened because of the bubble messages. Lastly, my comment was not only meant to adress you but also everyone who sees your video and feels like hopping on twitter to spread the rumours or share the rumours or whatever. Because thats honestly the last thing Junseong and DXMON need.
@@moonlight_antonio I just meant to clarify for all the viewers that there were no bruises and that that's just something someone made up along the way and that got spread by people And yeah I obviously don't want people to talk about this for the reasons I mentioned. Because it is not helping Jo anf Dxmon. If anything it is damaging them. And I am gonna be very honest now. If you don't know how to pronounce a groups name you haven't done enough research about them to speak on such a sensitive topic.
I really don’t appreciate this disingenuous approach to my video. You know, I clearly said, take these things with a grain of salt, you know that I said, in my video, it’s alleged, it’s alleged, it’s alleged, if it’s true. And then I stated the potential danger that faces, a lot of K-pop idols in the industry, and that sometimes rumors are true and sometimes they’re not, but that we need to be mindful. If you listened to the core message of the video, it was not about believing rumors or spreading rumors. You’re dumbing it down to that, but that’s not what it’s about. Not to mention, I said, if none of this is true, “I hope that Jo can rest and recover in peace, and that he doesn’t have to worry about any of that stuff”, but let’s just pretend that I didn’t say that right? Cause like, the last thing I would want is for Jo to be at peace with his decision and for him to be OK…… It’s just so disingenuous. There’s a difference between informing people of rumors, and spreading rumors. From your point of you, it’s the same thing, fine. I’m not gonna sit here and try to convince you of anything, so if you don’t like what I did, let’s just move on because I don’t have time or effort or energy to sit here and argue with you when your mind is already made up about what I did, I know what I did, I stand by what I did, and I’m not gonna let anybody tell me that I did something that I know in my heart that I did not do, so that’s where we are.
If true (the assault), this is heartbreaking.. ANY number of things may of occurred and other remaining members are rarely in a position to speak out for fear of losing their careers or being stigmatized. Someone needs to put the same strict regulations on those companies that the companies put on idols; and authorities must investigate. These company’s have carte blanche to shape whatever narrative they want with zero accountability to public let alone the impressionable young idols who companies passively dismiss or expel (ruining their lives and creating mental health challenges that can effect idols and former idols for the rest of their lives and/or create the pathway to idols ending it) and most times the way the company carelessly goes about announcing departures never truly reveals the truth whether there is a mental health crisis (or who/what caused the mental health issues), whether it’s a drummed up accusation (who it originated from or why) and any outcomes or if actual ‘crimes’ have taken place by either idols or the company’s themselves… at some point Kstans need to demand accountability and transparency with just as much tenacity as they do when they jump on cancel culture bandwagons based off of gossip. I believe that the companies do far more heinous things behind the scenes than we’ll ever be a party to but the burden of outcomes & consequences lay on backs of/ the mental health of and lives of the fallen young idols whose lives are forever changed.
I really can't believe that. He was my favorite member. I was about to "adopt" him lol
1. It’s pronounced ‘Daimon’ (다이몬)
2. HM/NV/SSQ always uploaded bigger announcements on Fan Café in the case of DXMON
3. No one ever saw bruises on any DXMON member
4. I am sorry If I come off as rude, but as a fan who has followed them since they uploaded their first predebut vlog, I really need people to stop speaking on Jo, he wanted to leave and he deserves to rest but because you all are bringing up this thing over and over again you are putting his future at risk in case he wants to redebut one day. Because companies don‘t really want trainees who had „scandals“ or were involved in controversies. There is a reason nothing was disclosed. And there probably won’t be any more news. The articles came out in JUNE and there were no updates on the articles until now so there probably won’t be any in the future. There is a reason people who are ACTUALLY in the fandom and not just solo stans don’t talk about it anymore because we already did back in june and we came to the conclusion that spreading rumours is not helping Jo or the other members. If one day Jo gets to come forward and share his story, I’ll gladly listen but until then I really hope that people just let him be. He made this decision and he deservers to live a happy teen life, being with friends and attending school. Just let him rest please.
(And yes the situation is fishy but there is nothing we can do and spreading this is not helping Jo at all)
Firstly, I understand that you are a fan so with respect to you being a fan I will address you with a little bit more tact, but I will get straight to the point. In this video, I’m reporting on DXMON’s Jo and I literally said it’s (alleged) several times for the sake of making sure that people do not misunderstand my intentions, and why I am reporting on this.
All I do is make people aware of things and address the potential, serious situation or situation’s that either are occurring, or that may occur in the world of K-pop. One of the things that bothers me to no end is when people tell me that I’m doing something wrong when I’m not, when people tell me that I’m spreading misinformation, when I’m literally just reporting on what has already been stated, and I report on it respectfully by not stating speculations or rumors as fact, but I make it very clear so that people can understand and for people to constantly do this to me is quite annoying. Someone literally did this to me when I was reporting on n.SSign’s, Eddie.
I understand that you are probably in your feelings, and whilst I understand where you’re coming from, I don’t appreciate being told that I’m doing some thing that I’m honestly not doing. I’m not spreading misinformation or rumors. I’m making it known that there were rumors, but also that those rumors are simply that, unless something is going on and is revealed. If you watched my video in its entirety, you would see that and perhaps maybe this would not be a conversation. I know what I did, and I stand by what I did, please do not misunderstand what I’ve done or call it something that it’s not. I would appreciate that.
And let me address for a moment what I said about him getting bruised. Because I don’t think that you are stating what I said exactly the way I said it. It sounds to me like you’re saying that It is MY belief that he got bruised, as if I’m making a declarative statement that yes he got bruised…
If you paid attention, you will know, that is not what I said, and that’s not how I said what I said. What I said about many of the allegations is that I don’t know where they’re coming from, first and foremost. I said, “I don’t know if they saw pictures of him having a bruise or some thing on his body”… That’s what I said. I did not say he got bruised or that it’s a FACT that he was hurt physically. My statements were questioning the allegations brought forth by fans, not confirming them. So please stop misrepresenting what I’m saying because it is not true.
I also gave my opinion that this may not be over, and it may not be… Who’s to say for certain? So there’s a opinions, speculations, and I addressed the rumors appropriately, what are you talking about? I’m trying to get out of the habit of replying to these kind of comments, but I’m not gonna sit here and read this comment and just let you tell me what I did was wrong by you twisting around what you believe I did, and not looking at what I actually did in this video because you have hurt feelings. I don’t like playing games like this. Just be honest and tell me that the truth is you just don’t want people talking about it. You don’t have to lie on me to get me to stop.
@@moonlight_antonio You are saying that you are only sharing that there is this rumour and that is in my pov the same thing as spreading a rumour.
In that way people who don't even know the group will find out about it and Jo will be labeled as a absue case. Because you should know aswell that people will treat it as facts. Even if you tell them 20000 times that it is only rumours and nothing is confirmed. And I know that that is not your fault but still something that should be taken into consideration.
And yeah, my problem is exactly that you are sharing the rumours.
Because it will lead to labels being pressed on Jo. Labels that could potential ly harm his future in case he wants to re-debut one day.
Even though your intention may be just to spread the "news" this is not helpfull to Jo.
At this point I just want people to let him be because like I sad he deserves to rest. He is just a teenage boy now and he should be treated as such.
Eddies situation is a whole different story because Eddie himself spoke up. Eddies case is not a rumour but something where people actually know that something happened because of the bubble messages.
Lastly, my comment was not only meant to adress you but also everyone who sees your video and feels like hopping on twitter to spread the rumours or share the rumours or whatever. Because thats honestly the last thing Junseong and DXMON need.
@@moonlight_antonio I just meant to clarify for all the viewers that there were no bruises and that that's just something someone made up along the way and that got spread by people
And yeah I obviously don't want people to talk about this for the reasons I mentioned. Because it is not helping Jo anf Dxmon. If anything it is damaging them.
And I am gonna be very honest now. If you don't know how to pronounce a groups name you haven't done enough research about them to speak on such a sensitive topic.
I really don’t appreciate this disingenuous approach to my video. You know, I clearly said, take these things with a grain of salt, you know that I said, in my video, it’s alleged, it’s alleged, it’s alleged, if it’s true. And then I stated the potential danger that faces, a lot of K-pop idols in the industry, and that sometimes rumors are true and sometimes they’re not, but that we need to be mindful.
If you listened to the core message of the video, it was not about believing rumors or spreading rumors. You’re dumbing it down to that, but that’s not what it’s about. Not to mention, I said, if none of this is true, “I hope that Jo can rest and recover in peace, and that he doesn’t have to worry about any of that stuff”, but let’s just pretend that I didn’t say that right? Cause like, the last thing I would want is for Jo to be at peace with his decision and for him to be OK…… It’s just so disingenuous.
There’s a difference between informing people of rumors, and spreading rumors. From your point of you, it’s the same thing, fine. I’m not gonna sit here and try to convince you of anything, so if you don’t like what I did, let’s just move on because I don’t have time or effort or energy to sit here and argue with you when your mind is already made up about what I did, I know what I did, I stand by what I did, and I’m not gonna let anybody tell me that I did something that I know in my heart that I did not do, so that’s where we are.