Destiny: House of Wolves Exotic Weapon Tier List Update
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2015
- It's been a long six months since our last tier list, so I think we're due for an update. In this video, we'll cover the old ranks of exotic weapons, their new ranks and WHY their ranks have changed, if they have.
I think everything in here is pretty within reason. There may be 1 or 2 outliers, but overall, I think the list is pretty good. Remember that these are MY personal rankings and I tried to be as unbiased as possible.
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Autorifle:Suros
Pulserifle:Red death
Scoutrifle:Mida multi tool
Handcannon:Hawkmoon
Shotgun:Lord of wolfs
Sniper:Ice breaker
Fusion rifle:Vex mythoclast
Sidearm:Dregs promise
Machine gun:Thunderlord
Rocket:Ghallajorn
Necrochasm is actually better than Suros right now, as it kills faster. Suros is ruined by its own perk. In pvp Necrochasm is actually one of the best guns out there, but people are too busy bitching about it instead of mastering the recoil.
dees harmon i don't think that putting vex mytho in the fusion slot is a good idea seeing as it basically fires like an AR and sits in the primary slot. if it were me I would put plan c in that spot.
TheHappyCrafter That's not much different than saying No Land Beyond isn't a sniper since it has no scope and it's a primary. Either way Mytho is still a fusion rifle.
obvious picks are obvious
really U put mida and dregs promise in? there are no other types of those weapons so it should be clear xD
I do like that you reevaluated the other Exotics as well as the new ones. It puts all the reviews in one convenient place. Thank you.
Short, sweet, and to the point. Very thorough review, love it. Great video Datto!
Awesome video! Now can you do new exotic armor tier ranks? Love your content datto and thank you!
Great vid Datto. Very concise with excellent explanations.
If you get the fire rate going on thunderlord, you can kill people extremely quick. If you can survive the grenades and horseshoes right after heavy spawns, you can pretty much 3v1 if you play your cards right.
It's also very accurate over distances too, unlike other machine guns, so I can spray about 1/6 of the clip and get a kill at a distance Jolder's Hammer wouldn't be able too. I'd argue that there's not enough love for the T-Lord. It's definitely got some of the best range and accuracy of a machine gun.
But in order to get to that high fire rate to take people out fast you need to waste ammo, which isn't preferable.
I wasted none. Fired at one person, then another, then the third died as soon as I pointed at him.
HELL YEAH THUNDERLORD IS ONE OF THE BEST, THIS GUYS IS AWESOME!
Christopher C Still waiting to fix mine up. Busy fixing up my Ghorn. When thats done, I'll get to work on fixing that gun up right away. Got it from the Nightfall the same day that Xur was selling it. Good thing that I didn't buy it first.
Get a kill at a distance jolders couldnt? Are u kidding me dude, my jolders snips over the whole map, when theres heavy I atleast always get a 5 streak. I am not able to do this with my thunderlord. Still love both, but jolders is far more powerful in pvp.
SUPER helpful, thank you so much for making this!
Gjallarhorn should be S++
Great vid datto, can you do an armor tier list for each class? Im intrested how you think something like perigrine greaves go up against armamentarium. Thanks
.universal remote is an absolute beast in trials datto, me and my friends ran universal remote and a sniper of your choice. It surprised many people on how effective it actually was and no one changed their tactics accordingly
Good list! Thanks for the run down Datto :)
Great video as always. I cant argue with your grading other than that original B+ to NLB, oh Datto you kidder lol. Can you believe I have had this game since Day 1 and there are still exotics I dont have, like 4th Horseman. ugh. Anyway I dont really have anything to debate on as I pretty much agree with everything you said. Thank you for the amazing content. I hope one day Autos get some love again, Suros was my first exotic and does hold a special place in me heart lol.
Can you do a tier list for the armor?
DattoDoesDestiny I know you probably get this a lot but I have a cool idea for an exotic rocket launcher. It's called Jack-in-the-Box and it's default perk is that it deals a random elemental damage type. (One shot could be void and the next solar or arc.) It has max velocity, decent blast radius, low rate of fire, stability, and reload. It holds 2 rockets and the first perk would be the tracking perk. The exotic perk would be titled jack-In-The-box that upon reloading the magazine has a random chance to hold 4 rockets instead of 2 and rockets explode a second time at the point of detonation for about 1/3 of the rockets damage.
I find that super good advice is good for pvp because if you are careful and you don't die you can save a lot of ammo and still have heavy ammo when the next heavy ammo comes up.
Datto, this is great for new and vet players. Good job.
Thanks datto love your vids and personality keep it up
super good advice is great for the oracles in VoG because killing oracles doesn't count as a hit so you effectively have infinite ammo.
I love my bad juju. It's pretty good in prison of elders especially in the have area. The automatic reload when you get kills helps whip out the annoying thralls and acolytes pretty quickly
Amazing job.
Thank you for take. You time and make this video
Glad to hear your opinions, and while I feel slllliiiiightly different about a couple of your decisions, I can say with 100% certainty that Thunderlord's recoil should be buffed ;P If you're not using Ext. Mags, you're doing it wrong. The recoil, however, makes it nearly impossible to aim at a boss's crit for the whole 60 round mag. I guess I have a soft spot for it because it was my first exotic ;D All the ogling from my friends because I was one of the only guys to have an exotic :'D (that wasn't sold by Xur) lol, good times
I actually like the sarcastic pop in with the text. its very you
Just noticed you were playing vs Tefty in PVP lol nice !
I'd say at least an 'A' for the bow in pvp
I feel like U. Remote is more of a C-range weapon than a B. Esp. for PvE because it takes up the coveted Exotic/elemental primary slot
Datto even though you said that Universal you would not hear arguments but in PvP with a warlock or hunter (mainly fast twitch hungering blade) it can be used to and extremely consistent and good level if you just go for melee afterwords I suggest trying it
Hey, are you going to make a taken king exotic tier ranking list? Just wondering, because I was t to see how all of those fit in.
When the Icebreaker footage was shown, you had a Stat Boost in the bottom left. It happens on my warlock as well and I'm wondering what it's about.
Great video Datto, Thanks.
Het Datto! You should make video about good legendary weapons, because you know, you can only use one exotic gun. Just couple primary, special and heavy weapons, and why them are better than others.
I got Thunderlord today and I'm so happy!
I think universal remote should be A+ or S for PvP once you get used to how it works you can dominate on certain maps. On twilight gap I got an 8900+ point game without blink (I was on gunslinger), throwing knife is a dangerous combo with it
I use Suros Regime on my warlock in PvP and it is so overpowered! It is a definite kill if you hit all your shots or if the enemy doesnt expect you you can get a solid two kills at once!
Datto, think you could update the Information text to include a text version of your run-down?
I gotta agree with Bad Juju being much better than it was before. It's good for mid-range engagements, but it's almost as good as any scout rifle on the big maps because of it's really great stability. What do you think of it on the larger maps?
When will the armor tier be coming out?
Dregs is actually really good in PvP. If the whole burst crits then it one shots. Combine that with Grave Robber, Field Scout, and the special ammo situation? A melee build suddenly sounds kick ass.
Skullfort, shoulder charge, Dregs Promise and a steady hand = fun.
idk why, but that nice shot made me laugh soooo much
Great vid - spot on
I'd like to say that your list was really great and I would agree with everything, but actually, I find No Land Beyond to be alright in PvP if you are a good sniper. For me, sniping is my strong suit, so I can pretty much guarantee a headshot in a 1 on 1 encounter 80% of the time. Although the perks are (I have to admit) pretty lame, it is arguably an ok weapon for crucible. Although, the fact that it takes up an exotic spot is completely ludicrous. Especially when that exotic spot could be filled with weapons such as Red Death, Last Word, or Thorn. But still, if you are a good sniper and really just want to have some fun in PvP the No Land Beyond is a fun way to do this.
How long does it usually take to do editing, thumbnail, description, ETC if you don't mind me asking
*Queenbreaker's bow can 1-shot in pvp with weapons of light*
do with that as you will
A Condescending Archen any sniper with ok impact can One-Shot with weapons of light, it's not exclusive to the bow.
A Condescending Archen That's not anything special. All mid to high impact snipers are one shot kills with weapons on light in pvp. That means LDR, Longbow Synthesis, Efrideets spear, Her Benevolene, Icebreaker, Black hammer, Shadow of veils, and Supremacy are all better options in pvp that do the exact same thing
That's what I use when using qqb
So can the ldr 5001 really any sniper with good impact.
Will you be doing an exotic armor tier list anytime soon?
The suros depends on who uses it with pvp with all other weapons, as I use the suros and still manage to outgun the hand cannons in trials
Hey Datto, when is there gonna be a H.O.W exotic armour tier list
Pretty spot on, 100% agree on these.
Just got my first Gjallarhorn! Im so happy!
Should this happen...I don't have PoE but I did the nightfall (phogoth) and got the nothin manicals so did I glitch the game or is that possible (I can use them)
Please answer Datto
I know universal remote is not a great shotgun but it lets you use shotty snipe combo. Thats awesome!
I stopped playing destiny around April, I was a level 31, and was too bored to grind for Upgrade Items. Is it too late to get back into it?
At 0:36 you were fighting the imperial army and the fleet army.
Datto,do a legendary teir list...that would be awesome
legwndary loadou: fatebringer black hammer hunger of crota
I've actually been seeing a lot more people use and crush with the No Land Beyond in PvP. I know a few people that use it in Trails every week and go flawless using it. It is a great weapon if the person using it knows how to use it. I would like to see Bungie do something so shotguns and hand cannon don't rule over PvP. I really miss playing PvP and see people using all different kinds of weapons. Some people using hand cannons which have always been my weapon of choice others using auto rifles some using shotguns and others using fusion rifles. I was in the fusion rifle camp. I just was never a huge shotgun PvP person. I didn't get a fusion rifle from playing PvP with a pretty fast charge along with replenish and hot swap. Hot swap is actually a pretty cool perk that has a counter so you can see when it runs out. Shotguns still rule though. I just want to see more variety in PvP and not only hand cannons and shotguns and sometimes sniper rifles.
Split shifter pro with accelerated coils and hip fire is super deadly at just-outside-shotgun range.
I got acc coils replenish and hot swap on mine hot swap seems like a really good PvP perk for fusion rifles.
Madd Hatter I use NLB a lot (not in ToO though because my team just rejects my for this) and some people greatly underestimate you when taking it in. It requires super good aim though, sort of like a finesse weapon, which is I guess why I like it.
That's why my friend uses it in ToO cause people think they can run him over until he crushes there team. I haven't been able to find a team to run ToO with since week one when I got my ass kicked. People on LFG want money to cause they guarantee a flawless run or people only want people with more than one flawless run which I don't even have one. I would love to get one of the cool adept weapons or even the rocket launcher and some cool armor
Yeah I gave up on ToO 2 weeks ago. I like to think myself as competitive but some games I just can't play competitively (like Destiny) and just for fun. I wish you luck on finding a team but unfortunately I can't help you on that :/
I agreed with every evaluation in there... that was great! I do hope they buff auto rifles and give no land beyond SOME kind of use in PvE. Like give it a damage buff like the shotguns.
no it would be also just fine more zoom and oncrease the ammo to 100 maybe
Please do one for The Taken King PLEASE
It should be said that SGA is A-S in the niche role of Oracle killer. Fun to use for the Atheon fight.
TBH I believe that Ice Breaker will become a thing of the past due to the fact that with the new patch that will increase the time each bullet takes to regenerate from a bullet every 5 seconds to one every 8 seconds.
Mostly agree. I didn't believe this until I tried doing a trials. Thorns are literally everywhere. As a casual player, this puts me at a serious disadvantage to the point of where I am not even able to compete. Yes, exotics should allow the wielder a unique skillset to use that they wouldn't have otherwise, and that players should be rewarded for their dedication in obtaining an exotic, but please offer an avenue to counter those exotic weapons with other exotic items. Basically, provide check and balance system for each exotic weapon using either another exotic weapon, or armor.
The list is spot on except maybe move necrochasm up a rank because it is an elemental primary making it more valuable than Monte Carlo or hard light
I miss my Vex. The only time I really use the top tier of weapons in crucible trials, or maybe some small team stuff when the enemies are using thorn TLW etc., but I never use Vex because TLW does what it does but better. The only advantages Vex has is the magazine size and crowd control. And while one kill will allow you to absolutely destroy the second and third players on a small team, I rarely find myself shooting at more than one person despite how grouped up teams tend to be. If you want to try and out-range TLW with Vex you have to use send it over extended magazine, but then you're giving up it's only real benefit. It's like Thunderlord to me: it's pretty decent, but for the times when you would use it, there are other options that are just simply better. And for solar burn in PVE, let's be honest, my exotic there is Gjallarhorn.
THUNDERLORD is high on your list but maybe A+? S for me for sure, because it's range, stability, damage, and aesthetics are amazing, plus it 4 shots in PvP anywhere on the body (4 body or 4 head no matter what), so if you use every shot and never miss one bullet, get all 3 heavy ammo drops, that's 63 kills, or 42 if it's only two heavy drops I forgot, on top of your super, grenade, primary, melee, and special, THATS A LOT OF KILLS. but this is a very exaggerated situation and this is if your using field scout on it and no weapons of light or anything (although the kill count would be higher)
I would consider The Lord of elves to be a higher PvP ranking. I beleive and A could be given due to its ability to control an area. In trials this past week for black sheild there were numerous times where my teammate would completely lock down a choke point with the heavy damage spray from lord of wolves resulting in myself and the other teammate to regen if needed or wrap for a pinch
If you don't mind me asking, what is "S" tier? super?
I only have one question... What happened to Fate of all Fools?
i think you might be undervaluing queen breakers bow for pvp
Love it, very accurate to what I believe
Do a new class specific armor tier list
You know, you made a remark about Invective's reload, but it's really not that bad to be honest.
It's good to see someone prevalent in the community finally acknowledge how broken handcannons are currently. Here's to hoping it won't be another 4 months before Bungie decides to fix them.
Universal Remote should be at the very least a B+ if not more, its an absolute beast in PVP and a decent shotty in PVE as well!
Dat clip when the Last Word killed in two shots.... No explanation needed...
I am just wondering what is the S tear mean? Super?
I think your have a very good point there!
QBB should be A-A+. Certainly not S-tier, but you can wreck if you learn it and it is quick and easy to learn
Can you make a chart with all the rankings? DattoDoesDestiny
if you don't mind me asking , was that all in one take? or edited together?
Jamie Smith Edited together, I wish I had that level of composure.
Very well edited then , thought was done in one go haha!
So you are saying Bad Juju is on par with Red Death (slightly below Red Death) basically?
Ehhhh. I dunno bout that mate.
Why does the forth horseman five bullets? Why not four?
I love how SUROS has a slower kill time than literally the first weapon you touch in the game.
Can I still get year one armor from engrams?
I say Truth deserves to be S+ Tier in PVP. That aggressive tracking and blast radius was a huge help in my Thorn Bounty, and honestly can change the pace of a match with a key lock-on.
The SureFire Gamer But you could have thorn or the last word equipped... And you can only use it when heavy is available... scrub
Shining Nova I'm called a scrub when you're advocating the use of Thorn? Funny guy.
BTW, Red Death says hello.
Red Death is good, but not good enough.
Shining Nova same could be said for thorn and last word in pve. Gjallarhorn and Truth are miles ahead of both.
Meowdude23 Which is why Datto gave different tier rankings for PvE and PvP...
WHERES THE MIDA?! my favorite exotic primary doesn't get its chance in the spotlight. I'm kinda bummed
Universal Remote is B or B- (PVE) and A (PVP) imo. I wreck with that in Trials and I can use a sniper so I have a shotgun/sniper.
why did bungie do with Fate of all Fools and that vesta dynasty scout rifle?
Nothing they were never meant to be in the game
They were never put in the game, they were data mined so it was all speculation, at least that's what bungie says
No one knows. Only one player has FoaF because Bungie is very nice. They might've taken out of the game so it holds significance.
They said it was there for no reason and they were just toying with the idea of new weapons
Luke smith revealed this in the eurogamer review
Apocalypse99 That dude luke Smith told Eurogamer that they haven't introduced it in how.
I think in its current position Suros is better unupgraded without focused fire. Also auto rifles need a buff. I love my Shadow Price and it still absolutely wrecks in pvp but it is so much worse than it used to be.
You'll need to redo this list after this new gun update.
A heavy impact machine gun like Thunderlord should be A in pvp at the least, not to mention the accuracy with perfect balance and 60 shots is the mag with field scout. Also built in persistence. Whatchu talkin bout Datto.
Is an armor update coming as well
Why don't you use the last word in its full auto mode?
wait did i miss necrochasm or was it not put in the list?????
In PvP I say No Land Beyond could be a B or B+, even an A in the right hands. I am pretty proficient with the weapon myself, and although it does take some getting used to, the iron sights make it not half bad, albeit its exotic perk being basically useless. I have faced up against some incredible people in Trials who used No Land Beyond. That weapon is a monster with a bit of skill and practice, but I suppose if you used any weapon for long enough you could probably figure out a play style that made the weapon seem better than it is. I think you might find many more people trying this weapon out, if Exotic Handcannons weren't a thing. Maybe we will get lucky and see their inevitable nerf with the launch of TTK
Why did u have a stat boost in pvp
your pretty generous with your grades, only disagreement would be that the vex is awful in pvp and the nlb is better than people give it credit for in pvp.
Having used Lord of Wolves quite a lot in the last few weeks, I definitely think it's an S class PvE weapon. It absolutely decimates everything up close. This week's Nightfall was easy mode with that equipped. If you haven't picked it up yet, then do.
I would def bumb up thunderlord to an S-tier or at least an A-tier for PvP as it just absolutely shreds much faster than any legendary machine gun and it has virtually no drawbacks
I hate how people hate on the no land beyond i love using that gun in pvp i win all the time in rumble
Disagree with queen breakers bow. Apart from sniper battles, it wins everything. I am insane with this thing and - in trials last week- I got 3 kills per round with this beast. It is really good if you know when to use it and how (not trying to get snipers and poking out while charging)
Louis Rhodes no it just doesnt. you must've been playing nooobs
I played about 8 games of trials with it, and 10 games of regular crucible and it only let me down via its flinch, and other snipers. I could outgun thorn in many cases, provided I get the headshot (which is pretty easy)
I don't know I do pretty well with the universal remote
I personally would say Bad Juju is S- on pvp. But that's just because I'm biased and I love it so much. :3
4th horsman should be s-tier in pve, mainly because of poe and ability to kill all tier 2 enemies in one magazine