Hey Kevin.. electricity has to go in a loop... the loop is from the ground to the charger to the hot wire through the pig to the ground. That completes the loop.
You are exactly right. It wouldn't matter if the end of the wire was cut perfectly straight, with no loop, the fence would still work the same. The only path is from the wire to the ground. This is the reason you have to install a ground rod. One more thing, be sure to keep the weeds or other vegetation cut back away from the wire. A plant can short out the fence charger to ground, making the rest of the fence past the short circuit ineffective.
One other bonus with low electric fence wiring. We have a donkey that was being harassed by some cayotes in our area. The original wire was about hip high and they just walked under it. My husband ran a second line about 15" above ground, and it's been about 7 months and haven't had a single coyote come around since we heard the 1st yelp. My donkey is doing much better, even though he's still an ornery cuss.
I'm so jelly about your rain! Lol. We had a good start but now we just get teased by "promising" clouds. Oh well! Glad to see all your animals looking happy & healthy. All the best! ❤️
Love your videos guys! I hope to do pigs in my woods in the next year or two. I have to correct you, though, that loop at the end of the wire has nothing to do with sending electricity back to the charger, and if you did not loop it on itself, you would find that it would make no difference. It does, however, help hold the wire in place. The loop or circuit is made when something conductive (like a pig or person) touches the charged (or hot) wire and that something is a path to ground. The charged side is seeking to go back to ground, not to go back to the charger. Hope that makes sense.
Hey folks, word of warning here. After those posts have been in the weather a while, the coating on them washes away and you will want to wear gloves when handling them or you may end up with a hand full of tiny fiberglass slivers. I use to use them for garden row markers, but after a handful of slivers after the second year, I pitched them. (I cut mine to about 16" for markers) I use wood now and just automatically put on gloves. Keep up the great work. Good day and God Bless
Just wanted to give ya a heads up....I put 4 pigs in a one acre forested paddock and in 6 months they killed about a thrid of my standing trees...Oak, hickory, and other mixed hard woods....they ate all the acorns and vegetation then started on the trees themselves..They rooted up around any they could eating the roots themselves then moved on to the bark..While I did want to clean up the underbrush and get rid of some pesky Asian Honeysuckle, I never thought they would decimate the entire "forested" area...After about 4 years it is starting to come back but not without serious management to deter erosion and disease...I dont want to discourage you but I do want to help prepare you for a possibility.....The Homestead and family are looking great and healthy...Continued blessings to yall..
The main thing about keeping animals on the land is to divide the available land up and move them frequently. Cattle, sheep, goats, poultry, and especially pigs. After the desired amount of animal impact (do we want to stimulate the forest floor, create a savanna with grasses and shrubs under a thinner tree canopy, or do we want to clear an area of brush and/or trees?), the animals need to be moved to fresh ground - and the area they left needs to be given time to recover before it has animals on it again. This is what herds of wild animals do - graze/browse/root, drop manure and urine, and move on. Joel Salatin's approach to keeping pigs in the woods is featured in several UA-cam videos. Hopefully the remaining trees will really flourish now that they are thinned out.
I use the plastic insulators that are meant for T post and they hook right to the bottom of hog panels no need for the fiberglass post that way... Thanks for sharing...
looked like rain for about 4 days so I backed off watering garden. hah I was fooled, it was overcast I thought. actually it was from Canada wild fires. I too have been getting a lot of cucs, neighbors love it when I have extra
Your pigs look great! And they are going to love being out in the woods. I hope you can find some oak trees to put them under so they can finish off on acorn. Yay! Bacon and sausage!
true an electric fence will keep them in your in Missouri there is a min legal fence interior who cares but an exterior legal fence a must. yes I do have an old 5 bar barb wire that by itself is far lacking (say 70 years old lol) and the electric wire keeps them in. it just makes it a legal fence
always have a slop bucket where you put all you left over food from your plates and then u feed it to the piggys that is what I fed my piggy till my father killed it lol you have a piggy that kinda looks like the one I had as a child lol
Please explain how electricity has to loop back on the wire to the charger ? OR do you mean loop back to the charger by means of the grounded animal and ground rod connection ?
I understood everything u did on setting up the electric wire, but not the cable u stuck n to the ground next to ground post. Did u just stick it n up against it, or did u have something already attached to the post so the cable could be attached to the something??? Thank u
Haven't read all of the comments, so don't know if this was already asked. Should you have had the electric wire in place, prior to placing the piglets in the pen? At least the posts.
"Gee, this wire looks interesting, I think I will touch it with my nose to see what it is for. "Hey, Sis, come over here and touch this wire with your nose, I dare you." "Gee, I wonder why the other two yelled like that? Hmmm...what is this wire doing here? I wonder what will happen if I touch it?" Too funny!
Hey there! We are getting 2 pigs for the first time. I have set up a corral/pig pen/home base for them and they will be arriving in a few days at about 25lbs each. At what age/weight do you introduce the wire to your pig pen to start training them? We plan to give ours access to the woods on our property and use the electric fence to keep them in.
Why did you decide on the electric wire vs. the hog net from premier one? I am trying to decide what type of fence to use with my new kune kune pigs. I would like to be able to move them around the yard. Thanks for the help
@@hannigan789 I used the netting from premier one....love it works great. I did get the taller netting vs. the hog net because I am keeping goats in too.
At what age do you train them to the electric fence? My 10 year old is getting two pugs for 4H for a market hog project. We are taking two pork classes before we get out pigs in May. Trying to educate ourselves as much as possible.
How old do you think they were when you got them? How much weight do you think they have put on since you got them? We have 5 now. Raising 2 for us and 3 for relatives. They dont seem to be getting much bigger tho that could be bc we dint notice with seeing them daily.
U all havbeen e raising rabbits a while..... Have you ever allowedchickens to free range under rabbit tree to clean up ubdigestested rabbit pellets and turn it into hot chicken manure?Thanks in advance for any info you can offer. The breed of chickens I would like to get are red rangers Our goal is to rise 36 meat layers and 18-24 meat rabbits. I think that would supply enough for 3 adults.
I have a very naughty pig that kept getting out and forced me to spend 200 dollars on an electric fence. I didn't get to see her learn so this had to do instead.
Once out in the woods, do you have to worry about larger predators or does the elec. fence keep them away as well or do you have to take extra precautions for safety?
Predators aren't really a problem with pigs once they are a decent size. In theory coyotes would be the only concern but I have talked to quite a people who have raised them in the woods and nobody has had problems with coyotes and their pigs.
Thanks so much for your reply. We just bought nearly 40ac. with about half of it wooded & are just in the clearing stages. Of course starting to make plans & are thinking about the various animals we would like to incorporate onto our homestead. As we were bushhogging last weekend we found a deer carcus at the wood line. It appeared to be a small doe, maybe 70lbs or so, so I fear we may have a coyote running the property, hence my wondering about possibly placing pigs in the woods. Gotta get some trail cams out, then we'll know what's prowling. Thanks again, have a blessed day!
I would imagine once you are living there and making your presence known the coyote will stay at bay. We haven't had any problem with them and we have rabbits and chickens in tractors out in our pasture. Every night we can hear tons of coyotes but they stay away.
Dogs will attack and kill pigs, so coyotes probably will, too. Especially if you have smaller piglets and/or larger 'coyotes'. like the 50-70+ lb ones found in New England. Larger swine, like feeder and market size hogs would be unlikely to be taken, unless you have 'coyotes' in your area that hunt in packs, which is also happening in parts off New England. A good livestock guardian dog (LGD) or two also trained to respect electric fence usually keeps predators away.
You will be needing to change pigs pen . If hogs can see out they will get out . You will see only a very large pasture can keep them or being pinned up with no view of beyond pen . Never used electric but would not have confidence . They not rooting they planning on getting out
Love how all three of them absolutely had to check it out, in quick succession.
"You're being a pest"
Lol, I liked that
I do like your pigs. They grunt alot so they must be quite happy
Hey Kevin.. electricity has to go in a loop... the loop is from the ground to the charger to the hot wire through the pig to the ground. That completes the loop.
You are exactly right. It wouldn't matter if the end of the wire was cut perfectly straight, with no loop, the fence would still work the same. The only path is from the wire to the ground. This is the reason you have to install a ground rod. One more thing, be sure to keep the weeds or other vegetation cut back away from the wire. A plant can short out the fence charger to ground, making the rest of the fence past the short circuit ineffective.
Yes, no need to loop as the pig completes the loop to the ground 🤗
Loved watching the pigs and seeing them relaxing in their mud hole. Too cute. Hugs Sarah and Kevin❤️
🐐🐷🐓🐔🍓 good day Kevin & Sarah !! thanks for sharing another awesome update on the homestead !! 🍓🐔🐓🐷🐐
cucumber seeds are natural dewormers just like pumpkin seeds so we try to give them to everything lol
Guy's we really love your channel thumbs up my friends
One other bonus with low electric fence wiring. We have a donkey that was being harassed by some cayotes in our area. The original wire was about hip high and they just walked under it. My husband ran a second line about 15" above ground, and it's been about 7 months and haven't had a single coyote come around since we heard the 1st yelp. My donkey is doing much better, even though he's still an ornery cuss.
Those are happy pigs playing in the mud!
Looks like they aren’t afraid of you anymore!
Wow those cucumber chunks disappeared real quick! I jumped as they each got zapped. The really were curious about the new addition to their pen. 👍
I'm so jelly about your rain! Lol. We had a good start but now we just get teased by "promising" clouds. Oh well! Glad to see all your animals looking happy & healthy. All the best! ❤️
You all are fun.
Love your videos guys! I hope to do pigs in my woods in the next year or two. I have to correct you, though, that loop at the end of the wire has nothing to do with sending electricity back to the charger, and if you did not loop it on itself, you would find that it would make no difference. It does, however, help hold the wire in place. The loop or circuit is made when something conductive (like a pig or person) touches the charged (or hot) wire and that something is a path to ground. The charged side is seeking to go back to ground, not to go back to the charger. Hope that makes sense.
Hey folks, word of warning here. After those posts have been in the weather a while, the coating on them washes away and you will want to wear gloves when handling them or you may end up with a hand full of tiny fiberglass slivers. I use to use them for garden row markers, but after a handful of slivers after the second year, I pitched them. (I cut mine to about 16" for markers) I use wood now and just automatically put on gloves. Keep up the great work. Good day and God Bless
The better grade posts don't have a coating and don't develop splinters, even after years of use. Check out Premier 1 fence supply.
Just wanted to give ya a heads up....I put 4 pigs in a one acre forested paddock and in 6 months they killed about a thrid of my standing trees...Oak, hickory, and other mixed hard woods....they ate all the acorns and vegetation then started on the trees themselves..They rooted up around any they could eating the roots themselves then moved on to the bark..While I did want to clean up the underbrush and get rid of some pesky Asian Honeysuckle, I never thought they would decimate the entire "forested" area...After about 4 years it is starting to come back but not without serious management to deter erosion and disease...I dont want to discourage you but I do want to help prepare you for a possibility.....The Homestead and family are looking great and healthy...Continued blessings to yall..
Agree, they need to be rotated every couple of days
The main thing about keeping animals on the land is to divide the available land up and move them frequently. Cattle, sheep, goats, poultry, and especially pigs. After the desired amount of animal impact (do we want to stimulate the forest floor, create a savanna with grasses and shrubs under a thinner tree canopy, or do we want to clear an area of brush and/or trees?), the animals need to be moved to fresh ground - and the area they left needs to be given time to recover before it has animals on it again. This is what herds of wild animals do - graze/browse/root, drop manure and urine, and move on.
Joel Salatin's approach to keeping pigs in the woods is featured in several UA-cam videos.
Hopefully the remaining trees will really flourish now that they are thinned out.
Good critters.
Great job done Kevin! Will not take them long to learn to not touch the wire! Hope you folks have a great weekend!
I use the plastic insulators that are meant for T post and they hook right to the bottom of hog panels no need for the fiberglass post that way... Thanks for sharing...
hmm...never knew those would fit right on the panel. Great tip! Thanks! - Kevin
Can you please share what this may look like?
👏👏👏 great job on training day. What a zap! ⚡🔋⚡ That actually startled me too. 😂 God Bless you guys! 💖 -Karen, Traditionalist
looked like rain for about 4 days so I backed off watering garden. hah I was fooled, it was overcast I thought. actually it was from Canada wild fires. I too have been getting a lot of cucs, neighbors love it when I have extra
Zap, lol. Those pigs learn fast. Thanks and blessings.
Your pigs look great! And they are going to love being out in the woods. I hope you can find some oak trees to put them under so they can finish off on acorn. Yay! Bacon and sausage!
Cool! I would be making so many jars of pickles...love them.
Purrfect start! Good to know!
Good morning!
true an electric fence will keep them in your in Missouri there is a min legal fence interior who cares but an exterior legal fence a must. yes I do have an old 5 bar barb wire that by itself is far lacking (say 70 years old lol) and the electric wire keeps them in. it just makes it a legal fence
always have a slop bucket where you put all you left over food from your plates and then u feed it to the piggys
that is what I fed my piggy till my father killed it lol you have a piggy that kinda looks like the one I had as a child lol
Please explain how electricity has to loop back on the wire to the charger ? OR do you mean loop back to the charger by means of the grounded animal and ground rod connection ?
It didn't take the pigs long to look at that fence! Lol
I understood everything u did on setting up the electric wire, but not the cable u stuck n to the ground next to ground post. Did u just stick it n up against it, or did u have something already attached to the post so the cable could be attached to the something??? Thank u
One said hey come check this out lol
Haven't read all of the comments, so don't know if this was already asked. Should you have had the electric wire in place, prior to placing the piglets in the pen? At least the posts.
Iam going to be doing same thing thanks for the video
"Gee, this wire looks interesting, I think I will touch it with my nose to see what it is for. "Hey, Sis, come over here and touch this wire with your nose, I dare you." "Gee, I wonder why the other two yelled like that? Hmmm...what is this wire doing here? I wonder what will happen if I touch it?" Too funny!
Looks like you found out how to use the 30 cucumbers a day. They are in heaven.
Hey there! We are getting 2 pigs for the first time. I have set up a corral/pig pen/home base for them and they will be arriving in a few days at about 25lbs each. At what age/weight do you introduce the wire to your pig pen to start training them? We plan to give ours access to the woods on our property and use the electric fence to keep them in.
It didnt take too many times for me to learn as a kid to stay away from the electric fence either lol
Why did you decide on the electric wire vs. the hog net from premier one? I am trying to decide what type of fence to use with my new kune kune pigs. I would like to be able to move them around the yard. Thanks for the help
What did you end up using?? I'm making the same decision now
@@hannigan789 I used the netting from premier one....love it works great. I did get the taller netting vs. the hog net because I am keeping goats in too.
What gauge wire? My chickens and ducks like cucumbers...
At what age do you train them to the electric fence? My 10 year old is getting two pugs for 4H for a market hog project. We are taking two pork classes before we get out pigs in May. Trying to educate ourselves as much as possible.
Psst, if we bug him enough, we'll get more cucumbers! :)
How old do you think they were when you got them? How much weight do you think they have put on since you got them?
We have 5 now. Raising 2 for us and 3 for relatives. They dont seem to be getting much bigger tho that could be bc we dint notice with seeing them daily.
Question why didn't you just put insulators on the existing T posts?
U all havbeen e raising rabbits a while..... Have you ever allowedchickens to free range under rabbit tree to clean up ubdigestested rabbit pellets and turn it into hot chicken manure?Thanks in advance for any info you can offer. The breed of chickens I would like to get are red rangers
Our goal is to rise 36 meat layers and 18-24 meat rabbits. I think that would supply enough for 3 adults.
How many Joel's is the fence
I have a very naughty pig that kept getting out and forced me to spend 200 dollars on an electric fence. I didn't get to see her learn so this had to do instead.
Ngl i searched it up ! Wbu?
I never had pigs so know nothing about them except they're cute. Will they stay in the woods permanently, or just at times?
Probably just during the day and back to their pen at night.
You don't need to connect them at the end
Im training mine to be bacon soon. 😆
Once out in the woods, do you have to worry about larger predators or does the elec. fence keep them away as well or do you have to take extra precautions for safety?
Predators aren't really a problem with pigs once they are a decent size. In theory coyotes would be the only concern but I have talked to quite a people who have raised them in the woods and nobody has had problems with coyotes and their pigs.
Thanks so much for your reply. We just bought nearly 40ac. with about half of it wooded & are just in the clearing stages. Of course starting to make plans & are thinking about the various animals we would like to incorporate onto our homestead. As we were bushhogging last weekend we found a deer carcus at the wood line. It appeared to be a small doe, maybe 70lbs or so, so I fear we may have a coyote running the property, hence my wondering about possibly placing pigs in the woods. Gotta get some trail cams out, then we'll know what's prowling. Thanks again, have a blessed day!
I would imagine once you are living there and making your presence known the coyote will stay at bay. We haven't had any problem with them and we have rabbits and chickens in tractors out in our pasture. Every night we can hear tons of coyotes but they stay away.
Dogs will attack and kill pigs, so coyotes probably will, too. Especially if you have smaller piglets and/or larger 'coyotes'. like the 50-70+ lb ones found in New England.
Larger swine, like feeder and market size hogs would be unlikely to be taken, unless you have 'coyotes' in your area that hunt in packs, which is also happening in parts off New England.
A good livestock guardian dog (LGD) or two also trained to respect electric fence usually keeps predators away.
You will be needing to change pigs pen . If hogs can see out they will get out . You will see only a very large pasture can keep them or being pinned up with no view of beyond pen . Never used electric but would not have confidence . They not rooting they planning on getting out
Which I was closer I would take some cucumbers off your hands. We are big time cucumber eaters.
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I hope your kidding about turning the wire back on its self for electricty to flow back to the charger. Because thats not how it works
Lol hurry hurry they are almost out of food
:-)
Can you sell me your cucumber seeds?
Did you know pigs are smarter than dogs? Please don't eat them 😢
Gross see why Muslims don't want to eat them
Purrfect start! Good to know!