World of Warships - Twixxer
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- There are comebacks, there are epic comebacks, and then there's the match Twixxer played in his USS North Carolina...
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10:42 DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A HEART ATTACK LORDY THANKS JINGLES
I sure as hell did, thought my graphix card died, was about to pop a blood vessel
@@vladimirjakemiv1667 Haha xD
same here too thought my computer was about to kick the bucket
I freaked out
@@vladimirjakemiv1667 in the brief few seconds that it was happening it felt like 10 minuets had passed, I thought about cables, wiring, my gpu thinking it died and having to buy a new one, but due to the corovirus and losing my job how was I going to afford it and when I would be able to fix it.. all this ran through my head in about 2-3 seconds hahaha
Jingles : "The NC does about 24.5 knots." Actually jingles, the bottom-left hand speed counter says 28 kno- jingles?!?!? Nonono plz put the shotgun dow- *BANG*
Jingles probably looked at the stock engine module. With that the NC can do 24.4. knots.
Well to be fair, while the North Carolina on paper topped out at 28 knots (and IIRC she did a hair faster during her sea trials), the vibrations were so bad aft from the design of the aft hull, stern tubes and support skegs, and screws, that she was usually limited to around 25 knots. And even then, the aft 100 or so feet of the ship were rendered uninhabitable, not to mention the havoc it wreaked on the after fire control director and other equipment.
@@tspencer227 That is true, especially before they fixed her with new propellers. Drachinifel has been quite good at explaining how they "fixed" the NC. Go check his videos out, if you haven't already.
"NC did not go on active duty because of acute longitudinal vibrations from its propeller shafts. A problem shared with its sister Washington and some other ships like Atlanta, it was only cured after different propellers were tested aboard North Carolina, including four-bladed and cut-down versions of the original three-bladed."
@@stefanpajung113 and they never fully fixed it. I volunteer aboard the museum, and teach in the engineering programming- quite familiar with the story. :)
@@tspencer227 that sounds awesome. One day in my life I hope to have enough time to volunteer for museum ship
I love the enemy team. "Make your move already".
2 minutes later "She was a VIII and I'm a VI." lol. I found that hilarious.
what an idiot right
Jingles: Mentions that NC does 24knots with speed flag...
Me: Looks at speed indicator showing nearly 28.....
Never change sir!
was probably talking about the ships stock speed
@@XenonArcher he is
FurryCrew TO THE SALT MINE MY DEAR FELLOW
Well, with the second propulsion module it is 27.5 knots. Of course he meant the stock configuration, but since when is this relevant? ^^
Technically, it does do that speed
"Hello Cleveland......."
SPLAT!
"Bye bye Cleveland".
;-)
D D Jay a comment that isn’t about the top speed of the North Carolina or the spot of bad resolution, have I now entered the twilight zone?
@@robertdevito5001
Dunno mate, I just work here.
;-)
You know, that was a great scene in Young Guns 2.
D D Jay Work? I thought we were all slaves down here in the salt mines
"The team with the most Colorados always loses." - The Mighty Jingles
10:43 Flashback to the ripped VHS tapes they used to show at my school
10:42 wtf Jingles I thought my pc screen was broken -.-
turns out, it wasn't yours, so...
turns out, it wasn't only you two have it, so...
@@wanyinchu8321 turns out, turns out, so...
Seizure warning at 10:43 for anyone else? about 7 seconds of old school TV standby lookalike colors xD
Happened to me too, thought my phone was finally giving out after the years of beating the shit out of it
That's just some good old Red White n Blue!
thought my RTX had died for a 4th time
Lost 2 GPUs in the past couple of years, so ... thanks for the advance warning!
Happened to me too, and I got scared for my graphics card. No computer during quarantine? I dread to think about it.
>When you fire at the enemies broadside and miss every shot
>When the enemy fires at your bow and gets several citadels
>When you are me playing world of warships
Felt that. Also:
>when you successfully hit a broadside but everything is an overpen... ON A BATTLESHIP
planenerd907: that’s me playing ever british ship.
"That Colorado got but 2 chances of stealthing up right now, Jack and shit, and Jack just left town" 😂
18:52
army of darkness quotes for the win :D
eViL dAvE that saying has been around for a long time lol
OMG! Jack has broken quarantine!
If you look at the team result screen, you’ll see that the Helena, Nagato, AND THE COLORADO are all in a division. They’re also in the Fleet Force One clan, which my clan tried to merge with at one point. Turns out you have to prove yourself in Fleet Force Two before they promote you to the superior clan with all the good players. The Helena driver in particular talks down to everybody like he’s their superior so it put a big smile on my face seeing him get rekt. Thank you Jingles you made my day
10:42-10:52 Warning for those with photo epilepsy
Jingles: "With a Topspeed of aorund 24.5 Knots"
*meanwhile on screen, NC cruising around at about 27.2 Knots*
in real life, NC can do 29 knots
I was goung to say, I just unlocked the NC and it does 27.5 knots
Indeed, that's the *stock* speed.
Also 2:44: "they're the same guns in the same turret mounts as in the Colorado", except the Colorado has a 4x2 AB-XY arrangement, the NC has a 3x3, AB-X arrangement.
Jingles, Jingles...
Come on Jingles. You can do it.
And all that harping on the previous battleships having an "all-or-nothing" armor scheme...when the NC, Mass, Iowa, Montana, Georgia, and Ohio *all* have that same type of armor scheme.
That enemy on the team "Barthac" tho
"Make your move already"
*Gives twixxer some beautiful shots against himself*
*Dies*
"I was t6 and he was t8"
16:20 Actually Jingles, the Colorado was heading north when he engaged the N.C., and was slipping behind the island. The only way he could go south is to turn to port and swing around 180 degrees to come south; never do it in time with that slug of a ship. The other option was to continue east and get blapped broadside by the N.C. after it dealt with the Nagato.
And a BIG BZ to the Jervis driver too! I loved that he even had enough of a thought for Twixxer to lay smoke to keep him alive while going in for the torp kill..... now that's team work.
Jingles is the only reason why I'm currently sane during the corona lockdown, thank u sir
Matthew Montana completely agree
Wow. These rona comments are already a year old.
What lockdown?
Sigma isn't vertical dispersion. It's a measure of how likely a shell will land near the centre of the point of aim. Iirc
which includes vertical dispersion
@@ValentineC137 Sigma is a different stat. You can have great dispersion stats and trash sigma and the opposite is also true. forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/95790-krupp-and-sigma-explained/
You forgot the “Actually jingles,”
@@sniptaclar5568 ACHTUALLY...
Sigma is a statistical term to define the spread (standard deviation) of a population. The shells you fire in-game are a sort of population.
When sigma is low, the population is spread close to the mean (expected value) of the population, which I assume is the centre point of your aim.
When sigma is high, the population is spread out over a wider range.
It includes both a vertical and horizontal dispersion: defined by values on the y-axis (vertical, range) and the x-axis (horizontal, domain) on a two-dimensional plane.
10:42 So I thought my monitor was fked for a moment lmao
I heard "She's still slow compared to an island" and absently nodded in agreement, had to rewind back and do a double take
🤣
That Colorado just makes me think of Brave, Brave Sir Robin, who bravely ran away
Jingles, it's even more hilarious that the Colorado tryd to run and abandoned his teammate, he was in the same clan AND division as the nagato!!! Im getting a bit of a potato vibe here 😂😂😂
Lars van warendorp you almost wonder if that was the plan. “Go, run and hide so we’ll win on points! I’ll keep them busy here!”
the Colorado could have won running away actually, if their aim was mediocre at least to finish off the NC.
@@nemlas85 Or, you know, they STOPPED FIRING THEIR BLOODY GUNS.
@@michaelpitts7212 the DD would have spotted it anyway
@@nemlas85 doubtfull, colo has a huge surface detection range even with camo and skills, that dd would have been able to keep him lit up, he ran to little to late, only if he did what jingles sayd, commit to it and flank, then half a chance.....
Colorado probably thought "hey I've seen a jingles or two this is where I run and hide and win on points so I don't throw the match".
Right.
And actually firing at the NC made sense: with better aim he could've taken out the only real threat to him and gained an even bigger point lead. Plus the Colorado was well within detection range, so there would've been no point in holding fire.
I'd blame him for not flanking the NC, but not for running away, since he had a point lead and was in the slowest ship at that tier and faced with 2 enemies armed with torpedoes.
@@landochabod7 TBH his mistake was to, for whatever reason, sail away from B as the entire rest of his team chose to sail towards it. Twixx is spotted even before he enters the B cap, long before he has his brawl with the 2 cruisers. That is ample time for the Colorado to pull a U turn and be in a position to fire on Twixx and support his team. But he continues to sail more or less away. At the point where Twixx has to fight the Nagato and New Mexico, the Colorado is basically out of the fight because he's sailing away and his ship is too slow to either turn around to assist the NM, or to continue on past the island and help the Nagato.
He also never fires his guns at Twixx until just before he sails behind the island. It at least appeared like he was originally south of it, heading north-northwest, so he could have fired at least as many volleys as the NM did, but he only ever got one salvo off before taking himself out of the fight.
You gotta be in a stealthier ship though, such as an acquisition mod Izumo
@@not2tired Oh yeah those are super stealthy :D
IKR, I rolled one into battle just for fun (no concealment skill either) to see what would happen. Pretty sure my ship was being spotted from other battles.
Last time I was this early
the Japanese Navy was bigger than the US Pacific Fleet
This comment is the best
Yeah last time i saw the Soviet Navy won Midway and proceeded to attack the Americans on Pearl Harbor.
No shit Sherlock, have you seen how OverBalanced is the AL Nevesky and Petropavlovsk?
@Redstones Heresy! KV-2 shells never go astray, they always directly hit what they are meant to. It just might not be where the muzzle of the gun was pointing.
12:38 "Make your move already"
NC: "Affirmative"
"Sir Robin ran away..."
"NO I DIDN'T..."
1:18 Jingles took a crab here, NC does 28.9 kt with speed flag
Also wait a little, at 3:14, on wows fitting tool both NC and Colorado have 2.0 sigma, certainly the flight pattern-dispersion is different because of the projection of the ellipse due to the shell speed
I’ve seen many matches on this channel where defeat is snatched from jaws of victory but I think this one has got to take the cake. Good god that enemy team was terrible.
Yes they were.
Hi Twixxer! Great game...
Just how high was your blood pressure when the Colorado magically appeared?
Last time I was this early we had a break from the salt mines.
Wait...there's no break?
Could I finish this video before I go back?
No? Alright I'll get back to work.
*Grabs pickaxe*
"Got but 2 chances... jack and shit, and Jack just left town" I love that Jingles. I'm gonna use that in my own life lol
That DD actually end up coming in pretty clutch with the Torpedoes on the nagato and the smoke screen at the end to help out.
I had the pleasure to be on the North Carolina in Wilmington NC (now a museum ship) in 2016, while they were celebrating some anniversary (I don't remember which one). There was US navy personnel with WW2 uniforms on board manning the antiaircraft weapons... that was great and it was a also a great experience to see how huge are these battleships!
10:45 are we back in the 90s with VHS cassettes destroying our eyenets?
Did anyone else notice glitching at around 10:40?
yes i thought my tablet was dying
I thought my computer had a virus for a second there lol
Yes I did I thought it was just me
damn thought my video card was having a seizure
I would say Jingles broke UA-cam buuuttt...
It was already broken to begin with.
The North Carolinas were such a sound battleship design, particularly considering when they were built. It's good to see them getting some love in World of Warships. What a game!
10:43 "There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next 10 minutes, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to - The Outer Limits."
"What's that, boy? We're in control? Hey look! I can see my voice! Heh-heh-heh... bloop bloop blip blip bloop! This. Is my voice. On Tee Vee-" Homer Simpson
Well played Twixxer, by the same vein though credit where its due that Jervis did prove to be a team player and came good in the end so well done to him too.
Agreed. Taking out the Nagato was the key to that victory I think.
"Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!" This seems to be the battle standard for many random populated games.
Legend has told that early jingles comments actually get read by the gnome overlord, all i know is screw this bloody pandemic
The Jervis was a rockstar at the end, layed smoke to protect North Carolina and went on to spot for her. Absolutely exemplary DD play.
“Where as the standard battleships had extremely T H I C C citadel armor, the USN fast battleships, such as the NC, were generally well armored everywhere”.
Well maybe in WoWS because overmatch mechanics and 32mm bow plating, but NC still follows the all-or-nothing armor scheme, especially IRL where the bow and stern plating was ~16mm of STS (And naval guns of almost every caliber would pass through that like a hot knife through butter).
That’s right, Jingles, go ahead and push your little shotgun button on your soundboard, you salty old seadog!
WoWS really poorly represents the AoN armor. The whole point of AoN is that you armor the actually important parts of the ship and don't bother with the noncritical parts. You basically can't kill an AoN ship without penetrating the citadel.
@@Timelost_Techpriest Problem is they've seen how World of Tanks does it with how you can kill practically any tank by shaving the top off the commander's hatch and prefer to go ahistorical instead of make AoN battleships die the death of a million overpens and making HE damage received even worse.
5:20 FYI jingles, a DD that sails straight into a cap and "goes AFK" is one of the main behaviors of a type of Farming Bot. Not saying he ALSO couldn't have been looking at Pornhub, but...
Well, that DD got the win and the relevant XP bonuses. All's well that ends well, according to Jingles.
What do you call a Cruiser in a WWE Cage match?
Helena Cell!
Ok, I'll leave
I have visited the North Carolina. I have pictures of me standing along side a 16" armor piercing round. Great museum ship.
Honestly you videos are encouraging me to give World of Warships another go. I love your comentary.
Brave Sir Robin must have been in charge of the Colorado.
I was just thinking that!
Beautiful display of teamwork this game
Thought for a series
Everyone in lockdown may be jumping into WOWS , how about a current breakdown on lines, characteristics etc :) lots of vids out there woefully outta date
Surprisingly jingles didn’t catch the Jarvis laying a smoke for twixxer at the end. Good guy
As he says “a top speed of 25 knots” the NC passes 27 knots
I've walked that shift several times in my life, she is a museum ship now one of the reasons I play WoWs is I want this ship. She is gorgeous in person.
Classic example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. As always, an absolute pleasure, Jingles.
Considering how much Jingles ragged on the Jervis at the start of the battle, I thought it would be nice to knowledge the good team play at the end of the battle when he laid a smoke screen for Twixxer. He made up for his early caution.
our mighty gnome has decided those who are prone to epilepsy need to be punished at the 10 min mark
10:42 Thanks, Jingles. Nothing like a good heart attack to start the day.
Thank you Jingles, I'm going stir crazy over here and only you & Bo are keeping me semi-sane./
10:42 to 10:50, I thought my screen static on me hahahaha
Josh EA it gets worse
My OG! NC is hands down my favorite T8 tech tree BB!!
Dear our benevolent gnome overlord. We know that you enjoy giving your salt miners a heart attack every now and then. However, we would appreciate not having the panic attack of thinking our phones/computers are dying right before our eyes.
Thanks, your loyal salt miner.
JINGLES YOU MAD MAN! 10:42 I THOUGHT MY CARD DIED....
The way this guy moves his camera was driving me insane
North Carolina was still an all-or-nothing battleship. It just featured a heavier armored deck. But, that deck was designed for the exclusive protection of the central areas of the ship, where the majority of the crew were, as well as the important machinery and magazines. Every US battleship from USS Nevada onwards was designed to the all-or-nothing doctrine.
That was great teamplay from the three surviving players.
Am I the only one who noticed Akizuki purring in the beginning of the video as he recorded this?
I noticed some comments about the speed of the N.C. It's stock speed (with the A hull) is indeed roughly 24 knots, however with the researchable hull it goes up to 27. So Jingles got something right.. but not all of it.
The NC class were still 'All or Nothing' armored. It's just that the NC class were originally designed for 14in guns, so the armor is only designed to fend off 14in shells. The upgrade to 16in guns made the ship all of a sudden fairly lightly armored for her type.
He knew he could overmatch all of them while they couldn't do shit to his 32mm bow, there at the end. He was like a fox in the hen house.
My first game in an NC, I deleted a cruiser in the first minute at max range with 5 citadels. Laughter all around.
1:24 Jingles, don't pretend nothing happened... your cats are purring next to your mic, is it?
I love it
That was a throw of epic proportions!
Not sure what those cruisers were thinking rushing a top tier battleship without any battleship support of their own.
Indeed, they were the worst offenders. You don't just rush a BB than can overmatch you, or ships armed with torps, if you don't at least have torps of your own.
Kudos to the Jervis at the end. Good effort sinking the low health ships, smoking the low health BB.
Shout out to the nice player in the Jervis who was thinking properly and popped his smoke to protect a teammate from being sunk.
He almost reloaded the front two guns twice before the Bismark went down #teamwork
The North Carolina was designed to meet the 35,000 ton treaty limit. (which for a ballanced design means 14" guns and 30 knots or 16" guns and 27 knots) The treaty also limited guns to 14" so the NC's armor was designed to protect against 14" shells. So when Japan left the treaty the 14" limit was ended. Originally the NC was going to have 14" quad turrets but the barbets would also fit the 16" triples it got (they had already been designed somewhat like the Mogami's starting with 6.1" guns with a design that could be changed to 8"). The Alabama's armor design was changed to protect against 16' shells.
The heavy for caliber size shells were something the US learned from the RN in WWI and improved. A heavy shell is more accurate at longer ranges, penetrates better, particularly decks, and gives longer barrel life. But it requires higher gun elevation (turret mods) and better range measuring.
The older BB designs even after being reparied were not used early on in WW2 because the fuel supply siuation in the Pacific at that time was not good and the newer BBs were much more fuel efficient.
Jingles, the North Carolina class most definitely incorporated the "all or nothing" armor plan.
They were NOT “armored more or less equally everywhere.”
Wow thanks for bringing our attention to that cleverly hidden pun Jingles! Without you and your infinite narcissism pointing it out for us we never would have been able to bask in your grammatical brilliance!!! My life is now truly complete!
Well done Twixxer! I like the NC and love to see it played well.
She's not badly protected … considering the real ship was designed to protect against the14" rifles she was originally intended to carry, not the 16" she usually ends up facing.
Came here to watch the daily video during my lunch break.
Damn near spewed coffee through my nostrils at the comments about the video glitch @10:40.
In the end the Jervis was also very helpful with both torpedos and smoke.
I believe that the colorado player is using the famous French tactic of running away
great team play by the Jervis. Another great video - cheers.
Im i the only one that can hear the cat purr? And loving it as a background noise?
So the captain of the Colorado was Brave Sir Robin. Huh.
"When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled!"
Wow. To go from 3-9 to a win is impressive no matter how you do it.
At around 17:00 Jingles mentioned wanting to see the battle chat.. The Colorado and Nagato were in the same division and clan. Probably on discord also. If they were, that would have been worth listing to.. hmm
I'd love to finish watching this, Jingles, but the Tank Museum just posted a new "Tank Chat" video with the living legend's mustache hosting...
Good show Jingles !!!! (I wonder what Tier after Coloroda and Carolina the Corona will be, hope NBC-protected armor !)
A few corrections. The US Fast Battleships still had the all or nothing armor scheme.While the US Fast Battleships had "Thinner" belts than the US Standard type battleships, they were internal, inclined, and protected by a layer of STS steel. The US Fast Battleships had in effect spaced armor but Wargaming in the name of "Balance" and I will pause while I recover from laughing has removed all STS and gimped every US fast battleship.
Oh Jingles, Jingles, Jingles...I have to correct a few things. First the speed. With a flag NC can easily punch it to almost 29kts, 24.5 is the stock module. Then there's the guns. While the guns were of the same caliber as the Colorado's they were a much newer design. The Colorado class carried the 16"/45cal MK1 guns which were actually very, very good guns irl (despite what WoWs would have you believe) but the North Carolina never carried these guns. It carried the newer 16"/45cal MK6s. The gun mounts were much lighter when comparing volume to mass to the older ones and their bores were specifically made to handle to new MK8 super-heavy armor piercing shell as you mentioned. At some ranges it's ballistics actually made it the best performing naval gun the USN ever deployed having some deck penetration advantages over even the near legendary 16"/50s of the Iowa and planned Montana classes (which in reality were all around better guns than those found on the Yamato class due to shell quality, consistency of propellant packing, shell rigidity, shell design, and striking velocity).
Colorado was no doubt trying to win on points, and honestly he probably was thinking about all the Jingles videos he had seen where a team lost because they were not winning hard enough. He just saw the team go from a three to one advantage to a two on three disadvantage and thought “wait a minute, we have points, screw this” and turned around. Wrong decision, but in the heat of battle he was at least thinking, not just reacting. Honestly I could see myself making the same error, so I don’t think we can be to hard on him, and hey, we all learned from him so thanks for that.
Lmao🤣🤣......Think he forgot his school lunch bag.....Jingles you scared the lead out of him
That static made me a bit nervous.. I thought the ring girl would come out and take my soul.
In real life, the North Carolina was capable of (I believe) 28 knots. As someone who lives in the state she is named for, I have a little sprig of pride spring up when I see videos featuring her. She is a beautiful ship
Another great video, thank you for sharing.
Did anyone else notice, that the Colorado and Nagato were in the same Clan and Squad....so the Pincermove not happening at the end against Twixer leaves me really fricking gobsmacked Oo
You can't blame the loss on the last ship left alive Jingles, their were 8 others who died before him, that didn't kill a single ship.
@The Mighty Jingles says NC top speed with flags is 24 knots, on screen see NC making 27 knots
Couple of historical points about NORTH CAROLINA and WASHINGTON:
(1) Their side armor protection was based on the new US Navy "Thick Chill" (55% face layer thickness) Class "A" armor, which is less resistant than it should be against large-caliber shells due to its thick face giving it worse scaling effects (it is definitely not inferior against cruiser-sized guns!), but this thick face was adopted to damage the new-model US Navy WWII AP shells and they were the best AP shells ever made for use by warships, so that armor would cause what this game calls "shatter" effects much more than any other armor used in this game, if properly included (by the way, British WWII Cemented Armor (CA), the equivalent face-hardened side armor, while not quite as good in basic quality, has a thinnest effective face, so its scaling effect against large projectiles is much lower and it had about the best resistance against large-caliber shells of all such WWII armors, though less ability to shatter them, as defined in this game). The somewhat thin belt armor (NOT turret armor, though!) used by these two US battleships was due to the original intended use of new-design 14" guns in QUADRUPLE-gunned turrets, much like the new British battleships, though the introduction of the new, improved 16" gun with its heavier projectiles changed the US Navy's design priorities and the latter gun in more conventional triple-gunned turrets was substituted. In any event, this new face-hardened armor, as with most post-WWI face-hardened armors, was significantly better (cleaner ingots, improved tempering methods to reduce brittleness, and much better all-round quality-controlled manufacturing practices) than most WWI-era face-hardened armors, so they gave better protection per thickness used no matter what scaling effects might be present in the thicker-face types. Not taking the better armors into account makes later warships seem under-protected, which they most assuredly WERE NOT!
(2) The Belt armor is sloped 15 degrees top-over-bottom (with the SOUTH DAKOTA and IOWA designs increasing this to 19 degrees) and this GREATLY increases the impact stress on any shell that hits it, most of which were not designed to take much more than 30 degrees total from right-angles when hitting thick plate, so even moderate range were causing hits on the belt at too-high-angles for the designers to expect the shell not to shatter, even if it penetrated, greatly reducing the effect inside the ship (more like an over-penetration than an explosion effect of a fully-functioning shell). That is why most new WWII battleships of most nations had such inclined belts, with some major exceptions. As a comparison, US WWII AP shells were tested against 35-40-degree sloped Thick Chill plates of almost caliber thickness -- 13.5" armor again 14-16" shells, which was much thicker than ANY foreign AP shells had to meet -- and by the end of WWII the latest designs were impervious to any damage whatsoever even by these plates (!!!), requiring a note that this test result was to be ignored if nothing happened at all to the shell!!
These US battleships thus had belt armor that was significantly superior to any WWI-era warship, no matter what armor thickness had been used. This should be added to the game mechanics to even out things.
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