How KR Challengers Use Gwen
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I hope Gwen keeps her low playrate. I like when the champs I play are not popular so I don't have to worry about her getting banned
What even though gwen is banned a fair bit
@@krytiku5612 like viego when he was new he stopped getting banned
@@LuisSoto-lt2hf true but tons of people below like plat think gwen is busted because "true damage op" or because they fight her lvl 1
i feel you i started to main bard preseason and now he is to often banned or picked
She has a big play rate though
Watching someone run away as Gwen chases them with a pair of giant scissors is hilarious 😂
Especially with her innocent gait ahah
With this Guide, Scissors beats Rock
rock is malphite?
@@weldon4231 yes
Funny haha
Gwen level 1 is 5 stack Irelia without needing to 5 stack
its 5 stack irelia without the q... get it right
Also her ult is Irelia's old one
Still waiting for SECRET Garen Tips & Tricks, then I can climb to challenger.
would probably be his shortest upload lol
Garen has some tips which some people dont know about (even though its literally written in the abilities), let me walk u through it.
His Q cleanses all slows, u wanna engage when ur slowed to catch enemies off guard as soon as u land ur Q they're most likely gonna try to run, so ur going to chase them with ur E, if they try to use a cc ability to stop u from chasing u can use W which gives u tenacity for the duration of the shield, if they're low enough u can R, but dont always do that, remember ur R does true damage AND % of their missing hp, it doesnt execute so there's no reason to use it as a finisher, u can always use it when theyre like 50% hp as the damage wont change if u use it when theyre lower that 50%-40%, this can make u comeback from a fight that looks like ur losing since it does really dumb damage.
@@72Yaca garen ulti damage deal bonus damage based on target missing HP, not max HP. So it should be a finisher. Read champion ability again dude
@@72Yaca copy pasted from the wiki: TRUE DAMAGE: 150 / 300 / 450 (+ 20 / 25 / 30% of target's missing health). Garen’s R doesn’t deal a percentage of the enemy’s max health, it deals a percentage of their missing health
@@72Yaca You took the most basic champion and still missed the most important part about his ult :/ sadge
Drututt sends his best regards since he saved half of Earth's population from starvation, what a hero.
You can use W right before teleporting and it still counts as the first exit giving you a safe TP
Wow a lot of bots
Somewhat interested in why this is better than using w the moment you appear from tp.
@@jasonchangdalekrule You could also do that, but in a game which a fraction of a second can be crucial there may be something, but really you can use it right after tp ing too.
@@siaratan9982 I'm mainly asking because it gives up 4 seconds of uptime on w in the teamfight you join (w has 5 second uptime, tp takes 4 seconds).
if u tp into int then just dont tp lol
"lets wrap up with a montage"
wtf have i been watching. just entranced
What a great video, I am so glad that your english channel blew up as well,
And great music selection
I know music taste is very subjective but you perfectly hit mine
There’s a few things I would add:
Try to buffer q in teamfights during cc if possible to maximize damage output.
Later snips>early snips
Staying at the edge of the zone makes it hard for melee’s to hit you without repositioning.
melees cant hit through it?
The nerfs really hurt Gwen. She gets destroyed by so many top landers now. Her early trading is gone and often games don’t last long enough for her to peak.
so true😞
Justo el video que estaba esperando!
i just bought her last night this vid come in the right time 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Im actually planning to main gwen this is perfect!
really good and educational vid keep it up
This champion is definitely underestimated. No matter how many times u die, u can always do something to help ur team with that high damage R and "balanced" w in mid/late game, while other champion maybe totally useless if they die too many times. I think this champion is ranked 5 because many player don't familiar with the matchup enough. In fact with ignite, she can beat so many popular top champion in early game.
what you mean "undersestimated"? She is hella broken
If you dominate early game she will be very useful. The only way to stop her from being op late game is to have your jungler prioritize your lane because her E is only useful for outplay. Have a jungler that is good in early game duel and a top laner that is not very reliant on skills just like Tryndamere. A raging Trynda that hits level 6 before her can rip her apart so bad. I tried this strategy once and it worked, Gwen was useless late game. Make sure to punish her after using her Q cause she is a food to a raging Trynda after using her Q.
@@Mikey-uu8fi so you need 2 champ to make a champ useless? Well if you play top but don't play champ like trynda what can you do ? That's what I call broken.. I went against a Gwen as riven, I beat her early games with short trades, at 15 minutes the match-up was literally impossible even if I had 3 kills and Gwen 0 and 30 cs more, she went rift and tanky items nobody in our team could kill her
@@vasileiosgkountas468 bronzie
@@poggers4392 yeah pls tell me more cancerkid
Goes into melee range vs Gwen. Surprised Pikachu.
LoL Dobby!
I remember a video analysis on Damwon vs G2?
Do you have it? If so, can you upload it? I can't find it anywhere.
The god and savior dobby
I think Gwen is good champion that we haven't seen in a while from Riot. She isn't broken and there are plenty of counters. You can't blind pick her every game and her kit is not overloaded. Riot seems to have this thing now that a champion needs millions of dashes etc. to be a good champion. If you compare her to 200 years of champion design Aphelios, Yuumi, etc. She is fairly well balanced. Riot's champion design and balance teams have many fuck ups, but let's acknowledge the few times they have done well and make the right decisions. Like giving Amumu a second q.
I do hope she recieves the same playrate and ban rate as Auerelion sol, so I don't have to worry about other taking her or banning her.
She also counters illaoi in my opinion. When I faced an illaoi even if her ult hits me the tentacles can’t reach inside the w area.
If the tentacles are not inside the circle they do not damage you. If they are inside they do.
"W is balanced" LOL 😂
it is tho
It's no more broken than Jax's Counterstrike
I’ve always used the Q E combo and the Q flash I thought everyone knew about that 😂😂
Gimmick Puppet Scissor Arms
Yeap exactly as shown.
Tried solo her in Ultimate spell book str8 off as lvl 3 Urgot...... It was not an even trade. (yes already watched her video and know she is strongest lvl 1)
Result : After I run out my W and the moment she lands her 2nd stacked Q with Conq..... dats some Darius Q shit. (back to base reset, lost 1st plate & 1 wave)
biggest take away from this is that flash is just so much better then ghost
2:40 sett all in with boneplating, walking through minions and didnt pop his pot and almost won.
Sett destroy gwen most of the time,in fact,he destroy every matchup
yo so is on hit lucian a good idea or na?
2:10 As a Jayce main, i really felt that. Sadge
Did you know that jayce can't all-in kayle lv 1? (he can get a good trade in, but if he keeps going, he''s gonna die)
@@jasonchangdalekrule i don't, i havent played that matchup in a long time, I reallly think it depends on weather you go conqueror or not but idk
Isnt that Common Build to Go Dorans blade?
Lul i actually use dorans blade 2,just when i play normals with friends tho.otherwise i play her jng only.but i also played her ad ,tank and sometimes usual rift,nashoors into rageblade spirit and dd and it rocks
thanks for this vid
Best ADC killer goes too......
so you can't ult or cannot use ult again if you didn't attack a target?
Yes
I thought people rushed nashors tooth for the on hit attack speed and then riftmaker tho
Can u please make a guide about Kayn..
No matter how many times I read her abilities, I still don't know what the fuck this champion does
Gwen is so fun
Can you do a sylas one :)
Not the Rumble using the thumbs up emote on 6:37 because he thought he won, but ended up wasting his flash, ult, and still ended up dying 😭😭😭 Karma is a b*tch and I love her
Such an astronomical roast.
But...Karma wasn't there
karma wasn't even in the game wdym?
this cant be a r/wooosh pls tell me yall are sarcastic
@@ezgiwiwiwi wooosh
Her health bar is a literal roller-coaster
In that, she feels like a HotS character. Orphea, to be specific
or just build the classic grievous wounds lol
Her healing is even more deceiving than Aatrox. Hers is a bunch of small healings from her passive unlike Aatrox
@@huckchucks It's not just the healing, it's the fucking Darius base armor with access to seekers and a spell that gives 22 free armor at lvl 1. She simply statchecks the living shit out of everything, how are you supposed to keep up with that? Trying to dodge her Q is a waste of time, all she has to do is press E, press W, and spam R while autoattacking, she'll beat ANYTHING in the game
@@thomasalberto613 I wouldn't say Aatrox's healing is deceiving. Whenever he gets his passive and Q's off, he heals. His healing is increased in ult. Gwen just heals from passive procs 20 times in a single fight
No matter what game it is, it always feels good when a non meta champ obliterates a meta champ by pure player skill.
The difference is their level of dedication.
KR Challenger: buying doran blade
Dobby: NOTE THAT DOWN
Me at Garena Server: buying doran blade
My teammate: gg noob gwen top diff
lmao same XD
Drututt was the first one to do it but guess everything is KR meta cringe.
@@LessFluff i call it the drututt special now, thank you for the info
This got my hyped up to play Gwen. Probably gonna go 2/12 tho.
I'm gonna play another game or I'll get demoted to d1
*sees a new dobby vid*
oh yes we're playing gwen.
how did you do lol
ahahhaha wtf
@@Ter0zak obvious joke
@@Ter0zak yep demoted LMAO
haha hardstuck diamond
dude shes SO good. im loving her. once u learn her kit and how to use all her abilities and procs fluidly without having to think about it, she becomes damn near unstoppable. good video!
Watch Drututt on Twitch or UA-cam, he is currently one of the few people on Challenger that actually plays Gwen and has a decent winrate as well as skill on her
"W is balanced"
Still need GP Tips & Tricks...
There is a small tip about Gwen while doing drake that uses w a little bit away from the drake so drake does no damage to you.
If you have an ultimate spell as a w with an insanely low cd (for an ult), might as well use it to avoid as much dmg as possible
Who else is looking forward to the rift maker buffs?
Life's really gonna suck when people start building bramble and exe into her.
Yea, I doubt many top laners can't duel her if they just rush bramble, she's like a mix of fiora and old aatrox both of which do little against a bramblevest rush. Only problem is that people don't know to do it
Against meelee champs a pretty good poke/engage is w->e->q because e dashes right at the edge of w without moving it so the enemy has to either back off or go around you
How KR use Gwen.
Its literally just a video that shows how hard riot fucked up again
Thank you so much!!!
are we not going talk about the lee sin at 9:22?
What he do!
@@Fallenn 7/4/6 with moonstone is this new meta?
Wouldn't have noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out. It increases the healing from w's omnivamp maybe?
@@aaronabraham2814 as a lee sin top main this build has interested me, lee has AP scaling on his W so that gives him more shield but im betting moonstone also would let it heal people he dashes to so it's pretty much lee sin enchanting support build
@@mechdark5567 Ohh I see I see, makes sense
Dobby, you forgot to mention 4 things:
1) grasp rune works as an alternative rune, it's not better than conqueror but in late game the benefit of that rune is insane! Especially if you don't have any tanks in your team!
2) divine sunderer build and when to build it
3) just like on sylas, manamune WORKS on gwen especially against if no tanks in enemy team and it works like a charm
4) detailed combos and auto attack resets and her advantage in laning not just in level 1 but also on level 2 too.
I love the effort you put in your videos, but sometimes I really think you need to dig a little deeper than that, instead of being a wannabe of beifeng (that chinese qiyana player) I literally expect you to put more details about other champions too, not just high elo (diamond 4 and above) but also low elo one tricks too (diamond 4 - gold 4)
Your old videos are LITERALLY much better and more detailed than that new ones!
Absolutely agree
lower elo cant understand the game that well compared to high elo. so they need to one trick a certain cham to compromise their macro from their lack of mechanic.
some people ( like me ) can play a certain cham and climb properly to diamond without problem because they understand the limit of their cham(to me its shen) and could properly execute their role. but vice versa, if let them play other cham they have to always limit test to get experience.
point is higher elo player may not mechanically better than lower elo, but their understanding of the game will eventually lead them to win the game compared to low elo
Thank you for the comments.
I was worried that the video would be too long, so I wanted to make a video that only focused on the core.
I think there was a little lack of detail in the process.
I will make it carefully so that viewers don't get confused :>
The thing about that "low elo" part is they sometimes build some stupid stuff and somehow manage to make it work, if you want an example, there is a player literally played an "afk orianna support" and climbed from low plat to grandmaster.
THAT is what I mean, and there is one more thing I'll mention later on
Those alternative builds, especially the builds depending on matchups is actually one of the fundementals of winning more games. You CANNOT fucking autopilot all the time with same build again and again.
Besides, high elo players are good in general, can play with any champ no problem, but low elo one tricks "IF" they know their champion after over hundreds of thousands of points, are actually better than high elo players, but not better than high elo one tricks. Even dopa/apdo agrees on this!
9:32 1/7 Gwen btw
Dang she's still a threat even though she's behind.
@@helostories5017 Yes, she's the type of champ that can 1v1 a lot of top lane champs even when a level down and 0/7. And as the game goes on, she'll just continue to outscale. I once went 0/11 against Illaio, and could still 1v1 her with my ult while being 1-2 levels down. I could still 0-100 all in, and 6/2 rumble while being like 2/5.
True damage
She's extremely strong people just don't realise, her W is literally just a better xin Zhao ult.
worse xin zhao ult
@@pawepajak7142 sure it doesnt follow you around, but its a basic ability with way lower ce than xin zhao ult.
@@YourLocalPlagueDoctor Yeah but cant you tank stuff for people with Xin Zhao? With Gwen it goes through her right
@@YourLocalPlagueDoctor xin ult knock backs enemy that you choose with challange marks and you cant be damaged from outside while on gwen you cant be targeted
@@pawepajak7142 no, challenged enemies dont get knocked back, only non challenged gets knocked back. And even after they get knocked back they can walk back in anyways.
Ive been using Gwen in the jungle. Not sure about high elo, but its really solid in low elo because of her outplay potential and scaling you just either outplay most in the early or just outscale them because low elo cant close out. She can hard carry a team fight.
Yeah, her only real problem (I can currently think of) is that she is relient on her teammates. Especially in low elo. Since you don't have any hard cc, and only the slow on your ult. Your ganking potentional is pretty bad and requires wave control, baiting or CC from your laners.
hey Dobby can u make a "how the enemy bard always carries"? I really love the champion and I could use some tips, thanks ❤️
At 7:55, Gwen animation cancels the R3 animation with Q. Something to note that you can and should do.
Dude.. casting ulti isn't an animation lock like Riven's animation, it's like a Zed's E, it just casts while being fully action-able, no cancels needed
@@Farrise uh no, it has a cast time that you can cancel with Q
What is r3
Also didnt mention I have to add as someone eplayed gwen like 80 games; Her W removes and makes it so you cannot be targeted by enemy minions which is pretty good at laning phase. Also in certain matchups adding 2 points into Q at level 3 is better.
Commenting here for the algorithm. Gonna keep doing it until 100K :)
Imo Gwen has been in a pretty weird spot since her release. She can definitely do damage and shred tanks, but I haven't really seen her carry the way other toplaners do. But it's probably because Gwen players don't have too much knowledge about the champion yet, and it's going to change in the future the same way it did with Qiyana and Sylas (and even with supports like Rell and Yuumi to an extent).
The only real opinion I have on Gwen, is that it's kind of annoying that she punishes skillshot poke champions instead of mobility champions. Picks like Kha'Zix and Katarina already outclass picks like Xerath or Seraphine, yet this new champion punishes the latter instead of the former, which I guess is yet another annoyance to my ranged mages and supports.
Most of the tips here aren't as mind blowing as the ones we see in some other videos (like the Beifeng ones), but they don't really have to be. I think this video would be perfect for anyone looking to start out and do good with Gwen toplane, as it gives you the perfect idea on how to combo and play her well. The only thing that really surprised me was the whole level 1 cheese with the E thing and the fact that you take Doran's Blade for it (reminds me of Kennen taking blade, and Jhin taking ring). She even managed to beat a Sett with it, which is quite something (don't understand why he took facebreaker over his Q though, he needed damage, not stickiness). At this point, I've seen so much level 1/2/3 toplane cheese in these challenger videos, that I just want a graph or a tier list or something like that, which toplaners could check before every game to see when they can cheese (and we could have someone like Darius or Gwen way at the top of the level 1 list, with someone like Malphite way at the bottom of the list).
Sett should absolutely take E first. He has an AA-empowering passive, so forcing a longer trade than the opp wants lv1 is best. This time, I just think he got baited out of his ideal scrap which is inside minion wave where he can stun and keep aggro on opp.
Yeah, I guess you're right, it's just that maybe Q would have maybe given him just enough damage to come out on top. I see his E level 1 as something that helps him enforce his victory, not really create it (for that, he has the passive). But it does stun for a little while, so it's hard to say.
Thank you always for your comments !
I admire your ability to write :>
You're welcome! At first I've tried to keep them short but I'm pretty damn talkative, especially when it comes to League.
I do like to put at least some thought or effort into my comments, although that's absolutely nothing compared the to effort you put into these videos. Hope you remember us, when you become the new big LoL guide maker (even though you kind of already are)!
>How KR Challengers Use Gwen (Doran Blade)
>Everyone else that did it outside KR: Are we a joke to you?
Me
So one thing I gotta get used to is how fast you can caste the three parts of her ultimate, like you can just R auto R auto R, unlike someone like Akali who has to wait a few seconds for the recast or Riven who almost never casts R2 right after R1, the other two top laners I am used to playing
This video revived my faith in gwen
With the highest ap I could get I got her passive to deal 12% of the Max hp as magic damage, R was doing around 101~% Max hp total just with the passive
I liked to play her with Phase Rush, it's very easy to chase and get a kill in early game. Playing with her in midlane, lvl1 freeze you wave and start giving damage, by the lvl3 you activate Phase Rush, easy.
I also buy Liandrys or Protobelt but I guess you can use whatever you want, just make sure to always hit the enemy with an full stacked Q.
The design of the champion is cool but the kit just isn't fun enough which is really holding her back. Riot are really bad at designing fun female top laners.
Gwen otp here
Real counters: Fiora, Volibear, Jax
Garen is easy You can solo kill him from lvl1 to 10
I do this and its troll pro player do this and its xool? Did you know that 2 dorans give you the same spellvap as a damn fucking mythic
Can you do a tips and tricks video for Wukong? I'd love that honestly.
why are all this tips thing that I thought were obvious?with all respect but I thought everyone knew those combos and that she is better lvl 1 than 3
Yeah I perma ban this champ for a reason. Even if she has no early advantage she out scales just about every champ
Gwen is what Viego should have been tbh.
Too bad I have zero interest in her, she looks really dope
Viegos twin with an ugly scissor instead of an ugly sword... i wonder why she is unpopular.
8:35 gwens ult worked different back then or why would i atk minions?
is the doran blade a clickbait?
No, with D Blade it turns all the early adaptive force from rune shard and conqueror into AD and helps with level 1. Gwen level 1 with E is similar to 5 stack Irelia
and remember, don't try this in your ranked games, you are not a rank 5 korean challenger
0:39 This Lee is not a challenger...
Edit: So no Nashors? :O
Looking at this video and commentary section now that we are in season 12 is hilarious
tbh Gwen is quite balanced is just the w is annoying sometimes.
I miss old E attack range :/
I saw my friend got rekt with trundle as gwen. any tips?
I know that a lot of people go nashor's tooth first item. It provides AP, some AS and also an on hit AP scaling passive. Is going Riftmaker first better than going nashor's?
I currently have 120 games, I play it jungle and mid and from the start I was always playing nashor. but for a few days now I have only been doing the rift and my games have clearly changed. as long as I have the leeching leer I win most of my 1v1s and start snowballing. if you can add to that a dark seal very early, the 1v9 can start
@@herveflutix5538 Oh Ok! Thanks) Now I'll go Riftmaker first!
his ops are pure trash, make a video VS some actual OPS
Oh, I wish I had the same ping as you. And then at 169 it is quite difficult to perform such combos. And so, Gwen (in my opinion) is one of the most underrated champions. Now it has also been weakened. Now she began to show herself worse in the forest.
its not skill just someone playing a broken champ
who does she ban
was at end of vid, panth jax garen
lol thats so fake XD that dubble kill on elise she just stoped aa
You should've put rock in counters
Malphite appears from Bush with murderous intent (r ready)
Its ok but. How can we counter GWENN?
It can be a new section on this channel ^^
Being bald is the hardest counter of Gwenn? xD
Ok riot. Stop making 1v9 champs
why isn't gwen buying lich bane , I feel like lich bane on gwen is op item gives you ms and ap proc
long time answering but most people don't use lich bane because 1 proc of lich bane is just 2 nashor autos worth of damage, so more AP overall is usually better. Lich bane is however AMAZING for split pushing and taking towers, which Gwen already is very good at.
Many of the plays in this video are really good but god damn... some of those people really do int their ass of aginst this Gwen. Noticed in my own games as well. Probably because many people don't know how to play against gwen yet but still... wtf
My best game with gwen is 0/12 :')
Hello, I'm from another country and I really like your work, I would like one of your videos to be translated (Portuguese) if it doesn't bother you, to have a better knowledge about the champion.
In fact, I would like all videos to have translation, if it takes a lot of work for you I can understand, with translation I can show people that they need to learn things advances from the champion
good video but bad music prefer no music
I have maybe 20 games played Gwen and I already get double kills from ganks with her. I've had multiple games with 3 or more double kills from her kitt.