Too many fans forget that Vi was a child too, and she also suffered❤️ I will always defend her. Hopefully s2 explores her struggles more as they did with Jinx in s1.
So glad to see someone talking about this! People don't give Vi enough credit, especially for how she handled the post explosion scene. She recognized her loss of temper for what it was pretty quickly and had the maturity to realize she needed a minute alone to process her emotions so she could come back to the situation with a clearer head. It really adds to the tragedy that she was so severely punished for reining her anger in, sealing the belief that healthy boundaries and coping mechanisms are bad for both Vi and Jinx.
Uh no she left her sister next to their dead adoptive father because she couldn't stand the sight of Powder. There is no evidence that she would've went back for her if Silico didn't show up as she only cared about going back when she saw Powder in potential danger. She should've never left her sister in the first place. Especially shouldn't have physically hurting her knowing that she is a little girl.
@@mysteryace2129 did u really watch the show? bc vi tried to go n get powder when sees silco with her. she was planning to save powder if marcus wouldnt have kidnapped her lol. vi even tells cait that she tought her sister was dead. actually u can see that after she hits powder and notice the mistake she have made, she leave for a few seconds just to calm herself down so what's your point? ur not making sense rn
@@mysteryace2129 and after all, if powder was just a kid, so was vi. its so weird of u to try to blame vi when arcane is abt choices and their consequences. plus: vi during the episodes was trying her best to save powder, to know more abt the situation and try to deal with her own consequences. vi only made one mistake and now is the villain for (surprise) being just a kid and not a mom? you dont need to blame and try to find the bad guy bc vi and jinx r both victims.
@mariabonfim4453 Again Vi apologists keep bringing up past actions where that isn't my gripe on this character at all. My issue is what she did recently when faced with a decision to confront her sister on that bridge but instead she leaves with Cait. Thus abandoning her sister once again so her little sister and "little brother" Echo can fight to the death. Which is a terrible decision that made her in the wrong for creating Jinx as she abandoned Powder not once but twice. I bring up Moments in the past to support how flaky she really is in not being devoted to save her sister despite what she says as there is more evidence of her causing more harm to Powder than good actually. Show no Tell type of approach.
Vi is probably one of my favorite characters of all time. She is just so damn realistic in how she reacts to trauma and shitty situations. I think it's also why I adore her with Caitlyn: finally she has someone who is trying to look out for her and give her the gentle touch and care she so desperately needs.
That's also 100% why Vi fell for her to begin with. It's why she gains hope the council of all people could somehow help against Silco but after being met with rejection she painfully realizes it's still her burden to carry. So when she bursts out in anger and cuts Caitlyn off, you understand her.
I was the parentified child. Even though I can relate to both her and Jinx, Vi is my favorite. A lot of people don't understand just how hard it is to adult pressures on you when you're just a kid. Nobody sees your struggles because due to the fact you had to suppression your own needs for others. When you make a mistake, big or small you get it much more trouble because you carry a much bigger burden. Everyone forgets you're just a kid too.
For thousands of years children had to do things like helping with farming, gathering, and in some culures even hunting. It was a matter of survival. Are you saying that those kids were wronged?
@@justjoe4390 There is a *_huge_* difference between being a kid who helps with the family work and being a kid who has to raise their siblings because their parents have abandoned that role, whether because they died, they ran off, or they're incapable of shouldering that responsibility because of physical, mental, and/ or emotional illness. A kid who has to help with feeding the chickens, harvesting a crop, milking cows, or any other number of tasks that can be physically demanding and/ or tedious is still allowed to be a kid in between their chores, and so do their siblings. However, if the parents are too drunk, missing, emotionally volatile, or, you know, _dead_ to take charge of running their family, giving guidance to the kids, teaching them how to live right, making sure there's food on the table, and everything else that family needs for survival, then what will happen is one of those kids, usually the oldest, will have to grow up very fast and be those things for the rest of the family's sake. Forcing a kid to mature so quickly means that they will have parts of themself that never really got the time required to develop fully. They won't get to have the same time to play, they won't get the years of being able to grow without being _solely_ responsible for the well being of all the other people around them, they won't get the time to explore the world around them like children should because they now have to be the adult for themself, for their siblings, and, in the worst case, for their own parent. So, no. Being a kid in the past who had to do hard physical labor on a family farm is not even remotely close to the same thing as being forced to grow up very quickly. People don't have a static frame of reference to compare their life experiences against, they formulate their own self-perception by comparing themselves to the other people in the time, place, and circumstances they live through.
Yeah now imagine going through all of that and then have those same parents kick you of the house because you werent enough of a caretaker or a therapist.
Great video! What was placed upon Vi was unfair, but under the circumstances, inevitable. I empathize with her character so much. While I wasn't fully parentified, I was in a position that I had to grow up sooner than normal. It frustrates me to no end when some people criticize Vi so harshly to the point of hating her for her actions toward Powder after the explosion. Every time I come across that criticism all I can think is "you're damning a literal child!!" I can remember doing and saying things at that age that I came to regret as an adult. Things I felt shame or embarrassment over. I have learned that instead of succumbing to my anger over those things as I once did, I must remind myself that, YES, I was a child then. Arcane's character development is incredible especially when representing emotions so well. It's eye opening.
Feel like anyone criticizing Vi harshly is doing the exact same thing adults do to these children; seeing her as an adult when she's not. I think Arcane's writing is just that good at depicting a parentified child that audience members who aren't aware of this concept will react similarly if they met this child
i empathize vi's actions even if it's not the best thing to do as a person but holding all those adult responsibilities when you're still a child is going to impact your life forever. people always ask me why am i so mature at my age, which isn't making me happy about it. because i never really had happy nor good childhood moments. my parent left me when i was a child, and it felt like everything got pushed to me, dealing with younger siblings, i may not be the best eldest child to them either. temper issue is the worst part of it. i got so caught up with the situation sometimes that i forget about my surrounding's feelings, ended up being violent with people. i'm still doing my best to maintain my emotions: accepting how i feel, avoid starting conflict, giving myself space to calm down. vi is my comfort character and i wish to see more of her characteristic in the show or analyze about her from season one scenes.
It’s so tragic yet it’s the sole reason this series are so beautiful. The villain is also relatable to the point that we couldn’t hate these characters no matter how evil they seemed.
i never realised that emotional parentification was valid, and i thought it was normal until more recently. i thought everyones mom asked then to rub / hit their back for a massage constantly and i thought everyones mom constantly vented to them. i knew i grew up fast, and i know now im not as mature anymore - but i thought it was normal. when i was little i tried very hard to help my mom with her emotions but it was very taxing on me. i ended up developing depression and anxiety and mild paranoia after hearing all of her own paranoia anxiety etc., and i was extremely angry once i hit 12 or 13. i wasnt a delinquent, but if i did someone 'wrong' she would tell me to give her my phone and i... didnt care. at that point my dad was talking about putting me and my sister into foster care, so i was giving up on the desire to be normal, so that phone i begged for i was very willing to throw to the side
I think it's important to ask why Vander didn't use Milo or Claggor to take care of the others? Claggor is certainly a steadfast tank. And while Milo isn't suited for caretaking I believe he's clever. No, I think even before Vander got to his first wards of Violet and Powder, Vi had already taken up the role of caretaker in the case of her sister's and junkie parents.
Vi is by far my faverouite character. And it really hurts me that she not only felt like she had to be the parent from auch a young age but she was also critisised for literally one moment of weakness after almost her whole family was killed! She tried so hard and did so well for so long and she deserves so much love and care. I really hope that in season 2 she can begin to accept that what happened to Powder was not her fault.
This was a really educational video. I think this is probably my favourite vi analysis video. Vi is my fav character so appreciate this deep dive into her psychology, most people just label her as anger issues when it goes so much deeper than that so I'm glad you addressed it. Great video dude!
Thanks for sticking around for so long while I sorted out my personal life. Making a video on Vi felt a little nostalgic for me cause I did start this channel by making League of Legends content. Felt right at home with this one :) Hope you enjoy.
I'm glad someone brought this up! It's so common how older siblings, even when they're still just kids and can't handle stuff as well as grownups do, are forced into this adult role that gives a lot of pressure and requires a lot of mental maturity, simply because they're the older sibling. I always had a problem with that concept tbh. Kids shouldn't have to grow up so fast, let them have their childhood. Still, I can understand it. What I can't understand is how they can be so mad at that person for messing up. If you're giving that position to a kid, mistakes are to be expected. Vi honestly did the best with what she was given. Her outburst in episode 3 is extreme but understandable. In one night, she witnessed the brutal deaths of many Enforcers, then lost her adoptive family and nearly got killed. It would be unrealistic if her patience didn't have limits. And frankly, her walking away after that, even if it negatively affected Powder's view of her, was her most emotionally mature response. She realized she could not control her emotions at the moment, so she left before doing something even worse and tried to cool off so she and Powder could discuss it later more calmly. Unfortunately, that never happened. While I agree that she is partly responsible for how she and Powder grow apart, my heart still breaks for her cuz I can just see she's really trying her best.
It's not because of that lol. It's just easier to empathize with the younger child than the older especially when the younger one has less control than the older one. Not only that between the 2 Jinx clearly had the worst fate so it's easier to empathyze more with her than with Vi
@@manuelbonelli3690 because of the simple fact this is a dumb argument. one of the biggest focuses for vi’s character is her anger issues, saying jinx is the only one with no control is dumb because everything vi had ever done was for powder, and the main “trauma” point for jinx (vi hitting her and calling her a jinx) is simply bc vi CANT control everything as well as you think she can. she’s an emotional teen, who experienced the death of her second family and father AGAIN at the hands of the one person who wasn’t supposed anywhere near the fight in the first place and directly went against what vi said just to feel needed. and you all don’t seem to get that and only minimize the damage powder did and villainize vi who was only a few years older than her, saying you only sympathize with jinx because vi is older is just ridiculous and she didn’t have the worst fate, she’s literally a cult leader vigilante feared by everyone in the lanes and on the other hand vi became what she hated the most (an enforcer) after years of enduring abuse in the prison from enforcers and others, while jinx is too busy having a power trip with her new drug lord dad she cuddles with and had a comfortable life with who convinced her to HATE vi and forget about her. did you watch with your eyes closed or something ?
@@3nq838 I am not villanizing Vi. I am just saying it's not as easy to empathize with Vi as with Powder/Jinx. It's the truth. The younger a person, an animal or anything that involves age and is a living thing will always be empathized more. I never said Vi has control but you can't deny that she has more control than Powder and the show makes it very obvious. She literally has a talk with Vander on how she is the leader of her group and that is she is the one who makes the decision and what does that mean? That SHE has the power to chose what to do and what not to do. The reason Powder doesn't listen to Vi and goes to help them is also Vi's fault because until that moment she always said to Powder that she was ready and that she was of help. She always lied to her sister (and ofc she did to make her feel better) and in that environment it's a mistake that led to those event. Should i blame Vi as the villain? No ofc not. But there is no reason to empathize with her on the same level as a fucking 5 year old girl who barely knows what's going on...especially when that is a result of her own, involuntary, mistakes
When I was 12, maybe younger, I, being the youngest of three with a fairly big, not too big gaps between us, was tasked with taking care of my niece who was 3-4 years old. I wasn’t prepared and had to quickly learn how to take care of them. It was difficult and I didn’t know what I was doing. But I know I did my best. So in this sense, I kinda relate to Vi having to take care of a younger sibling even though it’s not the same thing. But that experience has helped me understand Vi and her struggles through the series. So I appreciate that.
This is one of those videos that I watch and I don't understand how come it doesn't get more likes. Very well done and well explained. Hopefully it will become more recognized.
very informative video. Not much of a psychologist myself, so I cannot desect the scenes as good as you did, yet somethings are just what makes us humane. Feeling anger and sorrow for loss and feeling releaved, knowing that things are still there where we left (like Jinx still being in Zaun). But I personally cannot blame Vi for leashing out on Powder when she realised that she actually done it, after vaguely anticipating that the bomb might be Powders. She told her that she has to stay at home, while willingly disregarding her appeal, is something that needs to be "punished". While Powders psychology has some major issues in itself, that doesnt excuse to ignore Vis order as her "parent". From my pov.
Great video, man! I’m trying to be a comic writer and your videos help remind me to write my character with more depth and care. Keep up the good work!
That's the thing, SHE WAS NOT A PARENT. SHE WAS A CHILD. Some people really don't understand that and tend to just say that Vi's a horrible. My lord, SHE WAS A CHILD.
This was a well done examination of the tragedy. I liked how you highlighted Vi's struggle while balancing that with her personal shortcomings. Circumstances just were too stacked against them. Thanks for the video.
Honestly I felt this, but my circumstances were different, from being a 14yr old kid looking after a 16yr old sister with mental health issues already established up until the age of adulthood. Parents were around but they didn't want parental responsibilities so they choose to abandon us and we were forced to become adults as young teenagers. Vi's story is so relatable even if the sibling I was caring for is older, the same still happens today. Now in my late 30s and still looking after the older sister. The sense of responsibility never leaves and many people don't understand that.
I’m so happy you made this video… some people tend to BLAME Vi for how Powder became also. They blame her so much and say that Vi deserves to experience just as much neglect and pain Powder felt, which led her into becoming who she is now. They lost every parental figure in their life, Vi was overwhelmed with their loss and harsh conditions. And it also makes me feel like they just didn’t watch Arcane… yes Vi left her for a few minutes to process and grieve with the added trauma they just experienced. But didn’t they also see that as soon as she saw Silco holding a knife above Powder she was ready to go over to defend her sister. Marcus prevented her from going back to Powder and I just wonder how people never remembered that part. But honestly props to Vi, she handled so much as a child. And that’s not to say Powder didn’t also experience so much trauma and pain, but Vi didn’t purposely neglect Powder and tried so hard to be the parental figure Powder didn’t have. Thank you for explaining everything, Vi tried her hardest and she really did love her little sister.
I couldnt relate much with Jinx but omg Vi was too relatable. Having to grow up emotionally taking care of someone else when you're just a kid learning what to do is so messed up
My gfs parents made her raise 5 of her siblings while she went thru elementary-highschool, then kicked her as soon as she was 18. Not my story, but I can see the struggles and it's impact. It sucks ass, parentification makes you forget what unconditional love/worth is.
Interesting, I do think Vander gets off a bit too easy, his main focus was on teaching Vi with the intent on helping Vi with Powder,however unintentional parentified Vi, There is one interaction between Vander and Powder and it seemed the only one who Powder felt comfortable with was Vi, so Vander has a bit of blame as well. What actually made me take notice is how after Vi left Powder's life, Marcus making sure of that, Silco entering Powder's life would have a profound impact on him. Before Powder, Silco was "do anything for power,do anything to achieve" your goals mindset. Well easy to say when you don't have someone you care about. Once Powder enters the picture it would change him forever and would undue his whole philosophy. Silco was finally understood why Vander did what he did,but at this point he saw Vi as a threat not because she could take down his empire,but she could take his daughter from him, leaving alone. Since he had the same abandonment issues as Powder he would lie why Vi has come back to Jinx all because of his fears.Silco had everything he&Vander ever wanted, he just had to give Jinx up, if she was just another henchman, he would not hesitate giving her up, but because she became his daughter and ended up loving her,he just could not do it,which is why he went to Vander's statue as somehow acknowledge to Vander that he understands now. At this point Vi has missed out on what Jinx has been going through, not knowing the past were triggers for her PTSD, Silco did now. I think that is why at the Mad Tea Party it is only after Vi starts saying all the trigger words that Silco struggles to break free, while we all see Jinx curl up in the fetal position after asking Vi to stop, That is when Silco grabs the gun to shoot Vi. I could be wrong But I think Silco was thinking Vi is doing more harm than good, she is hurting my daughter "mentally" I have to stop Jinx's pain, goes to shoot Vi. Even though I knew Jinx on instinct was going to protect Vi. Vi did fail Powder, in many ways. Silco could only help Jinx through the facets of how he overcame betrayal of a sibling,not knowing how he overcame betrayal will not have the same effect on Jinx. It is the whole "They did the best they knew how" scenario. One thing is for certain. Both Silco and Vi loved her.
I'll be honest, I think the whole idea of parentification as some kind of negative thing is ridiculous. Through much of human history, it was practiced and expected of children to help their parents. And not just because 'society' said so-- nature itself conditioned us to do so because families couldn't survive the harsh world otherwise. When dad's too sick with a flu that may very well kill him, the son pushes the plow. Or the field doesn't get farmed and the family starves. And when the father is healthy, the son still helps so he can balance the work and learn how to be a farmer in turn. What you people hunting for mental disorders to neatly fit yourselves and others into call emotional damage, I call being a contributing member of the family. Sure, it's one thing for a child to take the place of a neglectful parent who wants to sit around all day drinking beer while their child is forced to fend for themselves and their siblings. But all your examples, like an older siblings taking care of their younger, or working a job, or doing adult choirs, that's not some unhealthy thing. That's learning how to be an adult and a responsible human being. And you want to know something? People who do that grow up to be valuable members of society. They care for their neighbors, their community, and families; and one day when they become actual parents, they'll care to do the job of parenting rather than throwing an iPad in their child's hand so they don't have to do the work of actually raising them. Because they learned early the importance of putting the needs of others first. And no matter how anyone tries to twist that into something bad, it's a noble thing. Oh sure, maybe they won't be as happy as someone who had their parent do everything for them and only gave them light responsibilities, but it's an important lesson to learn if you don't want your children to end up as spoiled, selfish pieces of shit. It's what keeps societies together and prevents people from atomizing into their own petty self-interests when they should be working together. And its sort of the point of adolescence, learning how to be an adult before you finally are released on your own. Obviously, anything can be taken to an extreme, to a point where it's damaging to someone. But you know what also can damage a kid? Making them go to school every day, but we still do that. Why? Because the benefits outweigh the potential harm. It's no less different here. I know this is a bit of an aside as you're talking about Vi and Arcane and her experiences, but right off the bat, I just found your explanation really irksome. I mean your 'extremes' are just normal and have been for the majority of human natural, biological, and psychological history, and as a species, we evolved to be capable of handling that. To make it sound like some unnatural thing to have your child actually take on responsibility just because in the last 100 years we've lived cushier lives is frankly absurd, and again, just sounds like people trying to invent emotional damage they don't actually have so they can wallow and feel validation in self-pity.
@@juniper1350 I think he has a point and I was a "parentified child", what broke vi and powder was the extreme evil of zaun, not the parentification per se, I don't think you should still be a child as a teen
@@gaia7240 vi’s parentification was literally part of that. it’s obvious, and you would know it if you actually payed attention to the show lmao. her trauma literally paints and dictates pretty much all of her actions.
There isn't much about caitlyn to be said. In s1 she just goes through a "ew this girl is not from the good side of Piltover" to "not all people are bad and there is an entire nation that needs help". She will have more depth into the second season
Too many fans forget that Vi was a child too, and she also suffered❤️
I will always defend her. Hopefully s2 explores her struggles more as they did with Jinx in s1.
So glad to see someone talking about this! People don't give Vi enough credit, especially for how she handled the post explosion scene. She recognized her loss of temper for what it was pretty quickly and had the maturity to realize she needed a minute alone to process her emotions so she could come back to the situation with a clearer head. It really adds to the tragedy that she was so severely punished for reining her anger in, sealing the belief that healthy boundaries and coping mechanisms are bad for both Vi and Jinx.
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Uh no she left her sister next to their dead adoptive father because she couldn't stand the sight of Powder. There is no evidence that she would've went back for her if Silico didn't show up as she only cared about going back when she saw Powder in potential danger. She should've never left her sister in the first place. Especially shouldn't have physically hurting her knowing that she is a little girl.
@@mysteryace2129 did u really watch the show? bc vi tried to go n get powder when sees silco with her. she was planning to save powder if marcus wouldnt have kidnapped her lol. vi even tells cait that she tought her sister was dead. actually u can see that after she hits powder and notice the mistake she have made, she leave for a few seconds just to calm herself down so what's your point? ur not making sense rn
@@mysteryace2129 and after all, if powder was just a kid, so was vi. its so weird of u to try to blame vi when arcane is abt choices and their consequences. plus: vi during the episodes was trying her best to save powder, to know more abt the situation and try to deal with her own consequences. vi only made one mistake and now is the villain for (surprise) being just a kid and not a mom? you dont need to blame and try to find the bad guy bc vi and jinx r both victims.
@mariabonfim4453 Again Vi apologists keep bringing up past actions where that isn't my gripe on this character at all. My issue is what she did recently when faced with a decision to confront her sister on that bridge but instead she leaves with Cait. Thus abandoning her sister once again so her little sister and "little brother" Echo can fight to the death. Which is a terrible decision that made her in the wrong for creating Jinx as she abandoned Powder not once but twice. I bring up Moments in the past to support how flaky she really is in not being devoted to save her sister despite what she says as there is more evidence of her causing more harm to Powder than good actually. Show no Tell type of approach.
Vi is probably one of my favorite characters of all time. She is just so damn realistic in how she reacts to trauma and shitty situations. I think it's also why I adore her with Caitlyn: finally she has someone who is trying to look out for her and give her the gentle touch and care she so desperately needs.
That's also 100% why Vi fell for her to begin with. It's why she gains hope the council of all people could somehow help against Silco but after being met with rejection she painfully realizes it's still her burden to carry. So when she bursts out in anger and cuts Caitlyn off, you understand her.
Vi's character always hit close home...
I was the parentified child. Even though I can relate to both her and Jinx, Vi is my favorite. A lot of people don't understand just how hard it is to adult pressures on you when you're just a kid. Nobody sees your struggles because due to the fact you had to suppression your own needs for others. When you make a mistake, big or small you get it much more trouble because you carry a much bigger burden. Everyone forgets you're just a kid too.
For thousands of years children had to do things like helping with farming, gathering, and in some culures even hunting. It was a matter of survival. Are you saying that those kids were wronged?
@@justjoe4390 There is a *_huge_* difference between being a kid who helps with the family work and being a kid who has to raise their siblings because their parents have abandoned that role, whether because they died, they ran off, or they're incapable of shouldering that responsibility because of physical, mental, and/ or emotional illness. A kid who has to help with feeding the chickens, harvesting a crop, milking cows, or any other number of tasks that can be physically demanding and/ or tedious is still allowed to be a kid in between their chores, and so do their siblings. However, if the parents are too drunk, missing, emotionally volatile, or, you know, _dead_ to take charge of running their family, giving guidance to the kids, teaching them how to live right, making sure there's food on the table, and everything else that family needs for survival, then what will happen is one of those kids, usually the oldest, will have to grow up very fast and be those things for the rest of the family's sake. Forcing a kid to mature so quickly means that they will have parts of themself that never really got the time required to develop fully. They won't get to have the same time to play, they won't get the years of being able to grow without being _solely_ responsible for the well being of all the other people around them, they won't get the time to explore the world around them like children should because they now have to be the adult for themself, for their siblings, and, in the worst case, for their own parent.
So, no. Being a kid in the past who had to do hard physical labor on a family farm is not even remotely close to the same thing as being forced to grow up very quickly. People don't have a static frame of reference to compare their life experiences against, they formulate their own self-perception by comparing themselves to the other people in the time, place, and circumstances they live through.
Yeah now imagine going through all of that and then have those same parents kick you of the house because you werent enough of a caretaker or a therapist.
I love this girl very much. I think she is the best character. I am very sorry that all this happened to her... 🥺❤️ beloved Vi
Great video! What was placed upon Vi was unfair, but under the circumstances, inevitable. I empathize with her character so much. While I wasn't fully parentified, I was in a position that I had to grow up sooner than normal. It frustrates me to no end when some people criticize Vi so harshly to the point of hating her for her actions toward Powder after the explosion. Every time I come across that criticism all I can think is "you're damning a literal child!!" I can remember doing and saying things at that age that I came to regret as an adult. Things I felt shame or embarrassment over. I have learned that instead of succumbing to my anger over those things as I once did, I must remind myself that, YES, I was a child then. Arcane's character development is incredible especially when representing emotions so well. It's eye opening.
Feel like anyone criticizing Vi harshly is doing the exact same thing adults do to these children; seeing her as an adult when she's not. I think Arcane's writing is just that good at depicting a parentified child that audience members who aren't aware of this concept will react similarly if they met this child
i empathize vi's actions even if it's not the best thing to do as a person but holding all those adult responsibilities when you're still a child is going to impact your life forever. people always ask me why am i so mature at my age, which isn't making me happy about it. because i never really had happy nor good childhood moments. my parent left me when i was a child, and it felt like everything got pushed to me, dealing with younger siblings, i may not be the best eldest child to them either. temper issue is the worst part of it. i got so caught up with the situation sometimes that i forget about my surrounding's feelings, ended up being violent with people. i'm still doing my best to maintain my emotions: accepting how i feel, avoid starting conflict, giving myself space to calm down. vi is my comfort character and i wish to see more of her characteristic in the show or analyze about her from season one scenes.
It’s so tragic yet it’s the sole reason this series are so beautiful. The villain is also relatable to the point that we couldn’t hate these characters no matter how evil they seemed.
i never realised that emotional parentification was valid, and i thought it was normal until more recently. i thought everyones mom asked then to rub / hit their back for a massage constantly and i thought everyones mom constantly vented to them. i knew i grew up fast, and i know now im not as mature anymore - but i thought it was normal. when i was little i tried very hard to help my mom with her emotions but it was very taxing on me. i ended up developing depression and anxiety and mild paranoia after hearing all of her own paranoia anxiety etc., and i was extremely angry once i hit 12 or 13. i wasnt a delinquent, but if i did someone 'wrong' she would tell me to give her my phone and i... didnt care. at that point my dad was talking about putting me and my sister into foster care, so i was giving up on the desire to be normal, so that phone i begged for i was very willing to throw to the side
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You too, huh? That's weird. The video, how many people experienced this. You describing my life. Holy shit.
I think it's important to ask why Vander didn't use Milo or Claggor to take care of the others? Claggor is certainly a steadfast tank. And while Milo isn't suited for caretaking I believe he's clever. No, I think even before Vander got to his first wards of Violet and Powder, Vi had already taken up the role of caretaker in the case of her sister's and junkie parents.
Definetly, in poor family it's always like this, their parents were probably working all day long
Vi is by far my faverouite character. And it really hurts me that she not only felt like she had to be the parent from auch a young age but she was also critisised for literally one moment of weakness after almost her whole family was killed! She tried so hard and did so well for so long and she deserves so much love and care. I really hope that in season 2 she can begin to accept that what happened to Powder was not her fault.
What really hurts is that even SHE blames herself , even after all the suffering she went through all alone in prison😢
@konozmohamed8180 Ikr! Reading her files in the councilor archives broke my heart like she went through so much!
This was a really educational video. I think this is probably my favourite vi analysis video. Vi is my fav character so appreciate this deep dive into her psychology, most people just label her as anger issues when it goes so much deeper than that so I'm glad you addressed it. Great video dude!
Thanks for sticking around for so long while I sorted out my personal life. Making a video on Vi felt a little nostalgic for me cause I did start this channel by making League of Legends content. Felt right at home with this one :) Hope you enjoy.
I'm glad someone brought this up! It's so common how older siblings, even when they're still just kids and can't handle stuff as well as grownups do, are forced into this adult role that gives a lot of pressure and requires a lot of mental maturity, simply because they're the older sibling. I always had a problem with that concept tbh. Kids shouldn't have to grow up so fast, let them have their childhood. Still, I can understand it. What I can't understand is how they can be so mad at that person for messing up. If you're giving that position to a kid, mistakes are to be expected.
Vi honestly did the best with what she was given. Her outburst in episode 3 is extreme but understandable. In one night, she witnessed the brutal deaths of many Enforcers, then lost her adoptive family and nearly got killed. It would be unrealistic if her patience didn't have limits. And frankly, her walking away after that, even if it negatively affected Powder's view of her, was her most emotionally mature response. She realized she could not control her emotions at the moment, so she left before doing something even worse and tried to cool off so she and Powder could discuss it later more calmly. Unfortunately, that never happened. While I agree that she is partly responsible for how she and Powder grow apart, my heart still breaks for her cuz I can just see she's really trying her best.
THANK U
IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT SOMEONE MADE AN ANALYSIS FOR VIIIIII
I'VE BEEN SEARCHING EVERYWHERE
Well, I wasn't expecting for this to hit me on such a personal level.
Thank you so much for this! So many fans are so hard on Vi because Jinx in their woobie. But both of them suffered and need healing so badly.
It's not because of that lol. It's just easier to empathize with the younger child than the older especially when the younger one has less control than the older one. Not only that between the 2 Jinx clearly had the worst fate so it's easier to empathyze more with her than with Vi
@@manuelbonelli3690 Agree to disagree.
@@Shatterpath I said more than just one thing in my comment. What doesn't sound right to you? And why?
@@manuelbonelli3690 because of the simple fact this is a dumb argument. one of the biggest focuses for vi’s character is her anger issues, saying jinx is the only one with no control is dumb because everything vi had ever done was for powder, and the main “trauma” point for jinx (vi hitting her and calling her a jinx) is simply bc vi CANT control everything as well as you think she can. she’s an emotional teen, who experienced the death of her second family and father AGAIN at the hands of the one person who wasn’t supposed anywhere near the fight in the first place and directly went against what vi said just to feel needed. and you all don’t seem to get that and only minimize the damage powder did and villainize vi who was only a few years older than her, saying you only sympathize with jinx because vi is older is just ridiculous and she didn’t have the worst fate, she’s literally a cult leader vigilante feared by everyone in the lanes and on the other hand vi became what she hated the most (an enforcer) after years of enduring abuse in the prison from enforcers and others, while jinx is too busy having a power trip with her new drug lord dad she cuddles with and had a comfortable life with who convinced her to HATE vi and forget about her. did you watch with your eyes closed or something ?
@@3nq838 I am not villanizing Vi. I am just saying it's not as easy to empathize with Vi as with Powder/Jinx. It's the truth. The younger a person, an animal or anything that involves age and is a living thing will always be empathized more. I never said Vi has control but you can't deny that she has more control than Powder and the show makes it very obvious. She literally has a talk with Vander on how she is the leader of her group and that is she is the one who makes the decision and what does that mean? That SHE has the power to chose what to do and what not to do. The reason Powder doesn't listen to Vi and goes to help them is also Vi's fault because until that moment she always said to Powder that she was ready and that she was of help. She always lied to her sister (and ofc she did to make her feel better) and in that environment it's a mistake that led to those event. Should i blame Vi as the villain? No ofc not. But there is no reason to empathize with her on the same level as a fucking 5 year old girl who barely knows what's going on...especially when that is a result of her own, involuntary, mistakes
oh thats why my older brother relate to her
When I was 12, maybe younger, I, being the youngest of three with a fairly big, not too big gaps between us, was tasked with taking care of my niece who was 3-4 years old.
I wasn’t prepared and had to quickly learn how to take care of them.
It was difficult and I didn’t know what I was doing.
But I know I did my best.
So in this sense, I kinda relate to Vi having to take care of a younger sibling even though it’s not the same thing.
But that experience has helped me understand Vi and her struggles through the series.
So I appreciate that.
This is one of those videos that I watch and I don't understand how come it doesn't get more likes. Very well done and well explained. Hopefully it will become more recognized.
very informative video. Not much of a psychologist myself, so I cannot desect the scenes as good as you did, yet somethings are just what makes us humane. Feeling anger and sorrow for loss and feeling releaved, knowing that things are still there where we left (like Jinx still being in Zaun). But I personally cannot blame Vi for leashing out on Powder when she realised that she actually done it, after vaguely anticipating that the bomb might be Powders. She told her that she has to stay at home, while willingly disregarding her appeal, is something that needs to be "punished". While Powders psychology has some major issues in itself, that doesnt excuse to ignore Vis order as her "parent". From my pov.
Great video, man! I’m trying to be a comic writer and your videos help remind me to write my character with more depth and care. Keep up the good work!
That's the thing, SHE WAS NOT A PARENT. SHE WAS A CHILD. Some people really don't understand that and tend to just say that Vi's a horrible. My lord, SHE WAS A CHILD.
This was a well done examination of the tragedy. I liked how you highlighted Vi's struggle while balancing that with her personal shortcomings. Circumstances just were too stacked against them. Thanks for the video.
Honestly I felt this, but my circumstances were different, from being a 14yr old kid looking after a 16yr old sister with mental health issues already established up until the age of adulthood. Parents were around but they didn't want parental responsibilities so they choose to abandon us and we were forced to become adults as young teenagers. Vi's story is so relatable even if the sibling I was caring for is older, the same still happens today. Now in my late 30s and still looking after the older sister. The sense of responsibility never leaves and many people don't understand that.
I’m so happy you made this video… some people tend to BLAME Vi for how Powder became also. They blame her so much and say that Vi deserves to experience just as much neglect and pain Powder felt, which led her into becoming who she is now. They lost every parental figure in their life, Vi was overwhelmed with their loss and harsh conditions. And it also makes me feel like they just didn’t watch Arcane… yes Vi left her for a few minutes to process and grieve with the added trauma they just experienced. But didn’t they also see that as soon as she saw Silco holding a knife above Powder she was ready to go over to defend her sister. Marcus prevented her from going back to Powder and I just wonder how people never remembered that part. But honestly props to Vi, she handled so much as a child. And that’s not to say Powder didn’t also experience so much trauma and pain, but Vi didn’t purposely neglect Powder and tried so hard to be the parental figure Powder didn’t have.
Thank you for explaining everything, Vi tried her hardest and she really did love her little sister.
I couldnt relate much with Jinx but omg Vi was too relatable. Having to grow up emotionally taking care of someone else when you're just a kid learning what to do is so messed up
The editing on this video is so well done
Thank you 💪😌💪 I try a lot of new things when I take my time making videos
Amazing work as always. Welcome back. I hope things are getting better for you. :)
My favorite fc is Vi and my favorite mc is Victor.
It's incredible how they managed to turn Viktor into someone so likeable compared to the in-game lore
My gfs parents made her raise 5 of her siblings while she went thru elementary-highschool, then kicked her as soon as she was 18. Not my story, but I can see the struggles and it's impact. It sucks ass, parentification makes you forget what unconditional love/worth is.
Interesting, I do think Vander gets off a bit too easy, his main focus was on teaching Vi with the intent on helping Vi with Powder,however unintentional parentified Vi, There is one interaction between Vander and Powder and it seemed the only one who Powder felt comfortable with was Vi, so Vander has a bit of blame as well. What actually made me take notice is how after Vi left Powder's life, Marcus making sure of that, Silco entering Powder's life would have a profound impact on him. Before Powder, Silco was "do anything for power,do anything to achieve" your goals mindset. Well easy to say when you don't have someone you care about. Once Powder enters the picture it would change him forever and would undue his whole philosophy. Silco was finally understood why Vander did what he did,but at this point he saw Vi as a threat not because she could take down his empire,but she could take his daughter from him, leaving alone. Since he had the same abandonment issues as Powder he would lie why Vi has come back to Jinx all because of his fears.Silco had everything he&Vander ever wanted, he just had to give Jinx up, if she was just another henchman, he would not hesitate giving her up, but because she became his daughter and ended up loving her,he just could not do it,which is why he went to Vander's statue as somehow acknowledge to Vander that he understands now. At this point Vi has missed out on what Jinx has been going through, not knowing the past were triggers for her PTSD, Silco did now. I think that is why at the Mad Tea Party it is only after Vi starts saying all the trigger words that Silco struggles to break free, while we all see Jinx curl up in the fetal position after asking Vi to stop, That is when Silco grabs the gun to shoot Vi. I could be wrong But I think Silco was thinking Vi is doing more harm than good, she is hurting my daughter "mentally" I have to stop Jinx's pain, goes to shoot Vi. Even though I knew Jinx on instinct was going to protect Vi. Vi did fail Powder, in many ways. Silco could only help Jinx through the facets of how he overcame betrayal of a sibling,not knowing how he overcame betrayal will not have the same effect on Jinx. It is the whole "They did the best they knew how" scenario. One thing is for certain. Both Silco and Vi loved her.
More please good to see you back by the way
Incredible video as usual welcome back homie
Thank you.
Love your content
Make the next episode about jinx
man you got me scared for a moment, thought you quit or smth. and my edits went to waste phew
Question for the positions are switched series. How would they get the sin devil triggers?
Yo someone needs to summarize this and dumb it down a little, I'm a dunce💀
Vi was forced to be a parent as a child, and her anger and trouble with intimacy is a result of that.
I'll be honest, I think the whole idea of parentification as some kind of negative thing is ridiculous. Through much of human history, it was practiced and expected of children to help their parents. And not just because 'society' said so-- nature itself conditioned us to do so because families couldn't survive the harsh world otherwise. When dad's too sick with a flu that may very well kill him, the son pushes the plow. Or the field doesn't get farmed and the family starves. And when the father is healthy, the son still helps so he can balance the work and learn how to be a farmer in turn. What you people hunting for mental disorders to neatly fit yourselves and others into call emotional damage, I call being a contributing member of the family.
Sure, it's one thing for a child to take the place of a neglectful parent who wants to sit around all day drinking beer while their child is forced to fend for themselves and their siblings. But all your examples, like an older siblings taking care of their younger, or working a job, or doing adult choirs, that's not some unhealthy thing. That's learning how to be an adult and a responsible human being. And you want to know something? People who do that grow up to be valuable members of society. They care for their neighbors, their community, and families; and one day when they become actual parents, they'll care to do the job of parenting rather than throwing an iPad in their child's hand so they don't have to do the work of actually raising them. Because they learned early the importance of putting the needs of others first.
And no matter how anyone tries to twist that into something bad, it's a noble thing. Oh sure, maybe they won't be as happy as someone who had their parent do everything for them and only gave them light responsibilities, but it's an important lesson to learn if you don't want your children to end up as spoiled, selfish pieces of shit. It's what keeps societies together and prevents people from atomizing into their own petty self-interests when they should be working together. And its sort of the point of adolescence, learning how to be an adult before you finally are released on your own.
Obviously, anything can be taken to an extreme, to a point where it's damaging to someone. But you know what also can damage a kid? Making them go to school every day, but we still do that. Why? Because the benefits outweigh the potential harm. It's no less different here. I know this is a bit of an aside as you're talking about Vi and Arcane and her experiences, but right off the bat, I just found your explanation really irksome. I mean your 'extremes' are just normal and have been for the majority of human natural, biological, and psychological history, and as a species, we evolved to be capable of handling that. To make it sound like some unnatural thing to have your child actually take on responsibility just because in the last 100 years we've lived cushier lives is frankly absurd, and again, just sounds like people trying to invent emotional damage they don't actually have so they can wallow and feel validation in self-pity.
yeah… i can tell you’ve completely misunderstood what parentification is lmao
@@juniper1350 I think he has a point and I was a "parentified child", what broke vi and powder was the extreme evil of zaun, not the parentification per se, I don't think you should still be a child as a teen
@@gaia7240 vi’s parentification was literally part of that. it’s obvious, and you would know it if you actually payed attention to the show lmao. her trauma literally paints and dictates pretty much all of her actions.
Made one of Caitlyn 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹pleeeeas
There isn't much about caitlyn to be said. In s1 she just goes through a "ew this girl is not from the good side of Piltover" to "not all people are bad and there is an entire nation that needs help". She will have more depth into the second season