I really like the way the lizard skin grip feels in the hand, good soft grip like its a really soft rubber and the buttends is alright too but the thing I cant get over is it really dulls the feel of the puck to me. My go to is split the tape and half and build up a buttend that is somewhere between 3/8" to 1/2". Then do the candy cane twisted tape under the final wrap and keep it spaced wide. I get that elastic grip tape like that powerflex you showed but the Howies or Renfrew brand and do a very thin wrap job with it to go over the twist, I haven't seen abnormal wear from using it, left hand is a little more worn since I'm a righty too but that's inevitable but its not really bad. Nothing I tried beats that and I always go back to it after trying something else. I really like the lizardskin and wanna use it exclusively but can't get over the dulled puck feel, its an ongoing conflict with myself. Reply
I have recently experimented with no tape. Just a little tape knob and that's it. Sticks nowadays have a grippy texture anyway. I find it stops my gloves getting worn out and I have a pretty good feel too.
You can use a hair dryer on the Rocket Grip as well. I tried out the cloth version of the Rocket Grip, and it has a lot more grip than the foam version.
great review... here is something i've been using, "Self-Fusing Silicone Tape", from your local hardware store of choice. It is pretty soft of the palms and provides better grip than regular stick tape
That’s a great idea. I can probably add to my skates this year as will be purchasing a number of new skates and can do one with blade swaps as well. Thanks for the support it’s truly appreciated
I have used the Buttendz and the Lizard skin and both are great but the Lizard Skin fell apart after two after about 15 games. Once your hand goes against the grain on the Lizard Skin it starts to fall apart pretty quick. The Buttendz has a issue in BC, Canada where with all the moisture in the air in the winter causes the grip to shift around when you store your stick in your truck or garage. It really defeats the purpose of being reusable when you have to glue it and the price is just too much. I started using the Tacki-mac after using hockey tape and will be going back to it again once I have to replace my stick.
Yah I’m going to pick up a tacki Mac after everyone’s recommendations. My sticks don’t last long enough for the lizard skin to wear out I dont think lol but yes reusable seems suspect on the butt end as well.
Another solid review! Thanks! I might have to try that lizard grip stuff. I’m sick of replacing my grip tape every other game. I was really curious as to what you were gonna say about the Butt Endz. Before I retired from reffing, I saw a fair amount of those either fall off or get ripped in two during games.
No tacki-mac? I've been using the Kane grip for a while now and love it and, if you use hair spray instead of the adhesive they send you, it is reusable.
Love your amazing reviews. It's things like that that us beer leaguers would definitely want to try. Thought about trying the Rezztek tape but will not purchase them and stick with regular tape. Continue the great work Justin.
I used Lizard Skin a long time ago and thought that it was too thick when I had to wrap it over itself. I might try it again. I usually use the Future version of the Buttendz. I find that the Buttendz is reusable, no issue switching it to other sticks. It can be a pain to get the Buttendz on, but you need to watch their video on how to install it and remove it. I also tried Tacki-mac a long time ago. I found it really difficult to remove. I could never get the hair spray to work, so I had to use their adhesive which is super strong and makes the grip extremely difficult to remove, not to mention leaves horrible residue.
I settled on lizard skin as if you stretch it as you pull it around it thins out a bit. I like how it’s grip and cushion like but not crazy palm killing
What about grip spray for the shaft? Just bought the original Warrior Alpha LX Pro as you have suggested over the years but the grip is terrible compared to my Warrior Covert QRE 40....($100 stick from two years ago). I didn't realize what was going wrong during my first game using it but then I realized it was just not as grippy while I was taking practice shots at home. Meow.
You should really check the brand tacki-mac, the "wrap texture" model especially because this is the grippiest and thinnest i could find out there. All the other models are kinda too bulking and you get a spongy feel to your stick. And the tacki-mac is also pretty cheap, like 5-10$
The only thing i dont like is the 3M tape they give with the grip, i dont know why but i never figure out a way to install it perfectly, but one you find your own way of installing it. Its gonna be pretty much bullet proof. Some people install it with hairspray, some with the tape. I might try to find some sort of glue that allow the grip to slide in and stay on forever. Sorry about my english, might have some mistake here and there lol
I pull an arms length of tape and twist it until it resembles a string. I wrap this string descending around the end of the stick. I am careful to space each wrap of the string so that my fingers naturally fall in the gaps between wraps. Now I tape over this string of tape in the opposite direction until I reach the end of the stick. I'm not done. I want a knob. I wrap layers of tape until I know that the girth of the knob I have created is large enough that I can easily pick up the stick if I drop it. Now I cover the entire tape job with sock tape to protect my gloves. Not only have I never had an issue with grip using this method, my gloves last waaaaay longer and unless you decide to shorten your stick your tape job will easily outlive your stick.
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Sock tape is the opposite of grip. I use it as an outer-layer for the sole purpose of extending the life of my gloves. The grip comes from the protruding ribs of tape underneath the cheapskate layer on top. I should have also mentioned that I've only ever used ordinary stick tape for the base layer. If you double it up it provides a certain mushy quality that allows the hand to sink into it. I've never experienced a slip or a twist. Anyhow, the core of my point is that if you take your time (5 mins?LOL) you can create a grip specifically tailored to your own hand with duct tape or electrical tape or string and glue. Nobody will force you to add sock tape at the end.
@@calenlaughlin3132 yeah I used to make similar thing but add stick wax for stickiness I like a lot of grip on my sticks so I go with the stickiest I can find’
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews I just use tape but have heard good things, I like that they have candy cane grip options and it seems to be a lot cheaper. I have heard it is heavy, but thinking about giving it a try.
Me too can’t recommend Rocket Grip (with holes at least). Too slippery and i have to flex my hand too much. Could someone using Lizard Skins tell if they destroy gloves? I’m not really in a position to buy mitts every 6 months.
Witch type of rocketgrip did you use? They have 3 different types. Rubber, fabric and "plastic" one. Ordered the plastic one, and hate it. Would like to know if the "rubber" one is better, or just find something else. Used "Russian grip" earlier, but can't seem to find one 🤔
Nah they garbage I would use something else. I got one that had some rubber some fabric. Absolute garbage. Plus the melting process was useless and over engineered
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews i originally would tape an extra wide end on my sticks but then found the buttendz and that was less hassle than tape, and there large goalie grip fits me perfectly edit: i use the sentry grip, its a bit odd using a goalie style grip on a regular stick, but i was always a weird guy with how i play
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews main reason i do it is because i like having a loose grip near the end when stick handling and the sentry grip gives me the stopage i need to avoid the stick sliding out my hand, it may be weird, but got to remember there was a time when goalies wearing masks was considered weird, sometimes the strange things catch on, like curved sticks being the result of a broken blade edit: ive also been called weird because i like using rezztek instead of tape, but like with the grip, i like not having to always redo it
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Haha, no problem, bro, superhuge thanks for the review, btw! I almost fell for rocketgrip (But as per your recommendation I'll go with Lizzardskin) Congrats for the goals/assists, I'm playing sort of same level as you, I started as a hockey dad, my son left the sport, we dads go for the amateur championship like ironmans! 😊 My son seeing us playing: you are so cute 😁😁😁
buttendz has a player blade tape probably like rezztek and a goalie version which probably doesnt annoy goalies much because their tape job dont really affect them
Never heard that before. This is an old review but other reason I don’t like fancy expensive grips anymore is when I brake a stick they are basically a waste. So 5$ grip tape so much better
Have you ever played with the length of your sticks? From the point of view in the video it looks like your sticks are really tall. Does it help you get a better shot? I prefer my sticks shorter but my shot suffers so I keep them a little longer. I’m 5’11 and I have my sticks length just under my nose without skates.
yes i have used to use shorter sticks as well, but went to full length sticks for that reason, shooting. It makes a huge difference. First kick point location is not changed or compromised. Full advantage of the sticks flex and whip is also a huge factor. I am 5.10 maybe 5.11 on a good day so similar height. ccm is the only stick i cut down and its only an inch. If you want to shoot better i recomend a longer stick
you will get used to putting the buttendz on your stick after a while, but people always say it easy to install because that is how they feel after a while
Tacki-Mac is the original, ribbed wrapped is the best one imo. I’ve had my eagle gloves forever because it doesn’t wear the palms. Hockey monkey and ice warehouse should have them
Lol would you point me to the study that says a stick should be a specific length? Long sticks are used for shooters I am not a stick handler. And my 70 goals this year say my stick is just fine. Appreciate it
Lizard skin is by far the best that I've tried. I put it on all of my sticks, and it gives me that perfect feel for the silky mitts.
Yep perfect balance of grip
I just use tennis grip because it’s cheap, saves my gloves, and best of all provides more grip!
Gotta have that grip I’m with yah!!
Yup - 3 packs cost $10 at most sports shops and it's arguably the same as Lizard Skins. I've also tried baseball bat grips that were pretty good.
I really like the way the lizard skin grip feels in the hand, good soft grip like its a really soft rubber and the buttends is alright too but the thing I cant get over is it really dulls the feel of the puck to me. My go to is split the tape and half and build up a buttend that is somewhere between 3/8" to 1/2". Then do the candy cane twisted tape under the final wrap and keep it spaced wide. I get that elastic grip tape like that powerflex you showed but the Howies or Renfrew brand and do a very thin wrap job with it to go over the twist, I haven't seen abnormal wear from using it, left hand is a little more worn since I'm a righty too but that's inevitable but its not really bad. Nothing I tried beats that and I always go back to it after trying something else. I really like the lizardskin and wanna use it exclusively but can't get over the dulled puck feel, its an ongoing conflict with myself.
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Yep always pros and cons to every choice as small as may be in hockey gear
Buttendz for me. I have one on my main and backup stick both Jetspeed FT460s. No issues, easy installation and the grip is awesome.
If you nail down exactly the one you like for sure I’m going to test a few different types of them over time see if I like em more
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews I have the futures grip I believe (twirls and the knob at the top).
@@Thedonron12 thanks I’ll check it out
I have recently experimented with no tape. Just a little tape knob and that's it. Sticks nowadays have a grippy texture anyway. I find it stops my gloves getting worn out and I have a pretty good feel too.
I tried once and not my style. Knobs are as diverse as ever lol
You can use a hair dryer on the Rocket Grip as well. I tried out the cloth version of the Rocket Grip, and it has a lot more grip than the foam version.
It’s been awhile since I did this one but the one I got was terrible for grip. May try a different version one day
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews definitely give the cloth one a try. I am liking it so far.
@@mhicaoidh1 appreciate the tip! I will
great review... here is something i've been using, "Self-Fusing Silicone Tape", from your local hardware store of choice. It is pretty soft of the palms and provides better grip than regular stick tape
Crazy never heard of it see if it exists around these parts.
What thickness are you using?
Another great vid...Would love to see you do one on blades (Flare, Step, Tydan, BladeTech) vs stock.
That’s a great idea. I can probably add to my skates this year as will be purchasing a number of new skates and can do one with blade swaps as well. Thanks for the support it’s truly appreciated
I have used the Buttendz and the Lizard skin and both are great but the Lizard Skin fell apart after two after about 15 games. Once your hand goes against the grain on the Lizard Skin it starts to fall apart pretty quick. The Buttendz has a issue in BC, Canada where with all the moisture in the air in the winter causes the grip to shift around when you store your stick in your truck or garage. It really defeats the purpose of being reusable when you have to glue it and the price is just too much. I started using the Tacki-mac after using hockey tape and will be going back to it again once I have to replace my stick.
Yah I’m going to pick up a tacki Mac after everyone’s recommendations. My sticks don’t last long enough for the lizard skin to wear out I dont think lol but yes reusable seems suspect on the butt end as well.
I've had lizard skin and put clear tape over top it
Another solid review! Thanks! I might have to try that lizard grip stuff. I’m sick of replacing my grip tape every other game. I was really curious as to what you were gonna say about the Butt Endz. Before I retired from reffing, I saw a fair amount of those either fall off or get ripped in two during games.
It’s looking less durable as I use it on my lxpro. I’ll see how long it lasts and go to a lizard in my new stick coming up in a review
I used to use Taki Mac but it just felt like holding a piece of rubber. I’m currently using the lizard skins on my 2 roller and 2 ice sticks.
Lizard rules
No tacki-mac? I've been using the Kane grip for a while now and love it and, if you use hair spray instead of the adhesive they send you, it is reusable.
Didn’t know it existed lol went with what was at my local shop. I will add tjough
I posted the same question then noticed your post and deleted mins since it’d be a repeat. Full agreement on tacki Mac and hair spray!
@@S0larW1nd sounds like a crazy idea but I will try it. Anything for the grip!
Love your amazing reviews. It's things like that that us beer leaguers would definitely want to try. Thought about trying the Rezztek tape but will not purchase them and stick with regular tape. Continue the great work Justin.
Thanks Alex, truly appreciate feedback like this. Keeps me going!
I used Lizard Skin a long time ago and thought that it was too thick when I had to wrap it over itself. I might try it again. I usually use the Future version of the Buttendz. I find that the Buttendz is reusable, no issue switching it to other sticks. It can be a pain to get the Buttendz on, but you need to watch their video on how to install it and remove it. I also tried Tacki-mac a long time ago. I found it really difficult to remove. I could never get the hair spray to work, so I had to use their adhesive which is super strong and makes the grip extremely difficult to remove, not to mention leaves horrible residue.
I settled on lizard skin as if you stretch it as you pull it around it thins out a bit. I like how it’s grip and cushion like but not crazy palm killing
I also use the snakeskins now. I was using the buttendz for years but found with the price and feel it works best for me. Good review!
Thanks I will check them out as well. Who knew there was so many!
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews sorry it is Lizardskinz! I know there’s a snakesskins also.
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews there’s also tackimat which has been around for a long time.
@@jamesweaver3379 gotcha!
@@jamesweaver3379 yah so many have mentioned that. Wasn’t at my local store so missed it existed
What about grip spray for the shaft? Just bought the original Warrior Alpha LX Pro as you have suggested over the years but the grip is terrible compared to my Warrior Covert QRE 40....($100 stick from two years ago). I didn't realize what was going wrong during my first game using it but then I realized it was just not as grippy while I was taking practice shots at home. Meow.
Yep the grip is awful on the OG Lxpro. Baseball handle grip is best fix.
You should really check the brand tacki-mac, the "wrap texture" model especially because this is the grippiest and thinnest i could find out there. All the other models are kinda too bulking and you get a spongy feel to your stick. And the tacki-mac is also pretty cheap, like 5-10$
Yah I’ve had a few messsge me about that now as this dropped I’m gonna check it out!
The only thing i dont like is the 3M tape they give with the grip, i dont know why but i never figure out a way to install it perfectly, but one you find your own way of installing it. Its gonna be pretty much bullet proof. Some people install it with hairspray, some with the tape. I might try to find some sort of glue that allow the grip to slide in and stay on forever. Sorry about my english, might have some mistake here and there lol
@@PrettyLolBoy007 all good I appreciate the information. I will definitely try this out.
Hair spray is most definitely the way to go! Quick, removable and best of all has better puck feel than the paper or tape method.
I feel like the best grip is just to get a grip stick and dont put anything on it. Just a little knob on top.
Good point if the grip of the stick is good which 70% of sticks it’s not. Lately grip is bad to save weight which is a weak way to do it
I pull an arms length of tape and twist it until it resembles a string. I wrap this string descending around the end of the stick. I am careful to space each wrap of the string so that my fingers naturally fall in the gaps between wraps. Now I tape over this string of tape in the opposite direction until I reach the end of the stick. I'm not done. I want a knob. I wrap layers of tape until I know that the girth of the knob I have created is large enough that I can easily pick up the stick if I drop it. Now I cover the entire tape job with sock tape to protect my gloves.
Not only have I never had an issue with grip using this method, my gloves last waaaaay longer and unless you decide to shorten your stick your tape job will easily outlive your stick.
Sock tape alone for me has zero grip and feels so slippery I have to use a skin or grip tape on top of the sock one
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Sock tape is the opposite of grip. I use it as an outer-layer for the sole purpose of extending the life of my gloves. The grip comes from the protruding ribs of tape underneath the cheapskate layer on top. I should have also mentioned that I've only ever used ordinary stick tape for the base layer. If you double it up it provides a certain mushy quality that allows the hand to sink into it. I've never experienced a slip or a twist.
Anyhow, the core of my point is that if you take your time (5 mins?LOL) you can create a grip specifically tailored to your own hand with duct tape or electrical tape or string and glue. Nobody will force you to add sock tape at the end.
@@calenlaughlin3132 yeah I used to make similar thing but add stick wax for stickiness I like a lot of grip on my sticks so I go with the stickiest I can find’
Thoughts on Taki Mack Grip?
Heard great things never used it as I stick with lizard grips when switching sticks back and forth in gamers
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews I just use tape but have heard good things, I like that they have candy cane grip options and it seems to be a lot cheaper. I have heard it is heavy, but thinking about giving it a try.
@@hawk12983 I’m sure it’s great has great reviews online. I go between lizard and just grippy tape in this video.
Replacement for rocket grip:use heat shrinking rubber tubes which should give you good grip
To complicated lol
No it’s like the rocket grip (you put it on your stick the same way)but it’s for wires but if you find one big enough you can use it as a grip
@@DumbOrangeFrog I hear ya just better options out there
Me too can’t recommend Rocket Grip (with holes at least). Too slippery and i have to flex my hand too much.
Could someone using Lizard Skins tell if they destroy gloves? I’m not really in a position to buy mitts every 6 months.
Haven’t had any issues and I’ve been using for years now with gloves
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews thank you Boomer, appreciated.
@@xkukubax no problem!
Witch type of rocketgrip did you use? They have 3 different types. Rubber, fabric and "plastic" one. Ordered the plastic one, and hate it. Would like to know if the "rubber" one is better, or just find something else. Used "Russian grip" earlier, but can't seem to find one 🤔
Nah they garbage I would use something else. I got one that had some rubber some fabric. Absolute garbage. Plus the melting process was useless and over engineered
The buttendz come with a spray to make it easier to put on
I used it
Lizard Skins for me.
Yah they solid!
yup i've tried everything lizard skins are amazing
i like using a buttendz goalie stick grip on my sherwood rekker legend pro, the wider end fits my style of play better
Oh interesting I will have to check out that style
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews i originally would tape an extra wide end on my sticks but then found the buttendz and that was less hassle than tape, and there large goalie grip fits me perfectly
edit: i use the sentry grip, its a bit odd using a goalie style grip on a regular stick, but i was always a weird guy with how i play
@@kevinmorrice weirdness is where it’s at lol
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews main reason i do it is because i like having a loose grip near the end when stick handling and the sentry grip gives me the stopage i need to avoid the stick sliding out my hand, it may be weird, but got to remember there was a time when goalies wearing masks was considered weird, sometimes the strange things catch on, like curved sticks being the result of a broken blade
edit: ive also been called weird because i like using rezztek instead of tape, but like with the grip, i like not having to always redo it
@@kevinmorrice crazy you see rezztek as a goalie but that’s neat!
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This is pretty old but my mic still sucks lol
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Haha, no problem, bro, superhuge thanks for the review, btw! I almost fell for rocketgrip (But as per your recommendation I'll go with Lizzardskin)
Congrats for the goals/assists, I'm playing sort of same level as you, I started as a hockey dad, my son left the sport, we dads go for the amateur championship like ironmans! 😊
My son seeing us playing: you are so cute 😁😁😁
buttendz has a player blade tape probably like rezztek and a goalie version which probably doesnt annoy goalies much because their tape job dont really affect them
Haven’t tried it but also probably won’t lol
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews hope not
My buddy uses the butt ends and he said it works better for the sticks that don’t have the grip texture on the stick
Never heard that before. This is an old review but other reason I don’t like fancy expensive grips anymore is when I brake a stick they are basically a waste. So 5$ grip tape so much better
But my gloves (as of commenting) has some fabric that doesn’t work with grip tape but works great with good hockey tape like renfrew hockey tape
sometimes the gloves cause huge grip issues makes me crazy
Have you ever played with the length of your sticks? From the point of view in the video it looks like your sticks are really tall. Does it help you get a better shot? I prefer my sticks shorter but my shot suffers so I keep them a little longer. I’m 5’11 and I have my sticks length just under my nose without skates.
yes i have used to use shorter sticks as well, but went to full length sticks for that reason, shooting. It makes a huge difference. First kick point location is not changed or compromised. Full advantage of the sticks flex and whip is also a huge factor. I am 5.10 maybe 5.11 on a good day so similar height. ccm is the only stick i cut down and its only an inch. If you want to shoot better i recomend a longer stick
you will get used to putting the buttendz on your stick after a while, but people always say it easy to install because that is how they feel after a while
Yeah I gave up on those just because of durability
I broke my alpha lx pro in my 4th game luckily still under warranty
Lucky! I haven’t had any brake surprising as I have the Ft4 pro. Maybe you had a bad one
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews ua-cam.com/video/ad7C6sB-bps/v-deo.html at 2 hours in I break it on a one timer
@@keenanhoward5233 ah man solid chance too. Nice job on the No stick back check haha. I just broke my Ft4 pro as well breaking sticks sucks.
Any feedback on sniper skin? I have rocket & it is slippery :(.
Yeah I hate the rocket grip absolute garbage. I just use lizard skin now.
I won’t like buttendz because I don’t like it when my stick feels too thick and the buttendz won’t help
agreed!
Tacki-Mac is the original, ribbed wrapped is the best one imo. I’ve had my eagle gloves forever because it doesn’t wear the palms.
Hockey monkey and ice warehouse should have them
Thanks! That’s next to try out appreciate the feedback
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews I second this - Tacki-Mac is what Pat Kane still uses and also the company that made the Gretzky Gripper back in the day.
@@kevinchow6377 yah everyone loves that eh
does he reply??
I try if UA-cam gives me proper notifications.
Rocket grip has too much gimmick and fabric and not enough rubber
rocket grip was awful
your stick is too long
Lol would you point me to the study that says a stick should be a specific length? Long sticks are used for shooters I am not a stick handler. And my 70 goals this year say my stick is just fine. Appreciate it