After breaking tons of sticks this past summer agents, trigger 8s, ft7s, hyperlight 2s as6s I decided I was done buying expensive sticks and bought 2 pro stock as3 pros on sideline swap for 350 its been 4 months and neither has broken they are just tanks. stick durability has gotten so bad recently it amazes me. not just that but my shot is noticeably better with the older tacks models compared to how my as6 was and my teammates Xf pro
Facts. It's getting to the point where I'm carbon wrapping my helicoid blades as a precautionary measure. Right now you've got a choice between made-of-glass Bauer shafts or flaccid CCM blades. You can see why hockeystickman and the like are doing so well.
i recently buy Trigger 9 Pro week ago.. and will let you know how long it lasted (i got Trigger6 pro - best stick so far and the blade becames soft but honestly after 2-3 years of intensive playing but not even brake or crack..) trigger 8pro still good, no problems so far.. . Good point about grip ribs relasing on "new" models > how pathetic of the marekting dpt of CCM. Next "brand new" model relase will be trigger 10 pro with technology "No-licoid" - the same blade asi Trigger 6 pro and grip without ribs.. :D thanks man for your job! ...going to donate for sure!
Right now I don’t have a gamer as I haven’t settled on a stick. I have the xf pro which is next release but it’s junk so probably keep that video to like 5 min and move on with life lol I’m going to test tracer, encrypt and qr6 so hopefully I find a gamer
CCM release the CCM vision stick and it’s $400 USD!! A review would be sick because of the 6 side taper at the top (XF pro) and the ultra low kick point(tigger) and I wonder how it performs because you’re the only honest reviewer
I have the 7,8 and 9 pro. The blade on the 9 sounds so hollow. Every time I knock a pass out of the air it sounds like it breaks. I broke my first 9 on the shaft blocking a slap shot. Since getting the warranty stick it’s held up. If you want the dual feel blade, which I like, then just get the 8. The only difference I’ve felt is the blade weight which is minimal. Everything else feels the same.
The state of the retail stick market is just brutal now. I don't think I could bring myself to buy anything. I'd be scared to battle for a puck lol. Pretty sure the last top end retail stick I bought was a Jetspeed FT2. I had been using Pro Stock Jetspeed's for a while (FT4-FT6 Pro), but found I actually like the shooting with Triggers a bit more in recent months (Trigger 7 Pro mainly). Even those don't hold up fantastically (I found Jetspeeds held up longer than these few Triggers), the pricing is becoming a bit inflated in the pro stock market as well (still much better), and it can be difficult to find the perfect specs at times. I think I'm firmly using PRO OG Red sticks and not looking back at this point. ~400 grams, beefed up shaft walls, low kick, solid feel, and come with a 64" shaft so I no longer have to mess around with extensions. Can basically get 3 at once shipped for the price of one of these and not feel worried about a simple stick battle or leaning into a shot.
I’m with you. The pro stock market is getting more lucrative for those who want solid sticks but not doing this 450$ thing. I noticed that the new pro stocks are a bit higher priced but I want to see how they perform as the OGs are solid
As a person who has a trigger 9 pro the blade f ing sucks and the foam in the blade had broken so the outer layer is the only thing that’s keeping the blade tg thank god I got a Sherwood to play with until my twitch came
I haven’t seen it here yet. The price in Canada is remoured to be 569$ which is absolutely crazy. With a soft blade that could last mere hours it’s a scary combo
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviewsyeah it’s $499 us but they changed up the top grip to mold to the hand similar to the geo grip but feels a little better but the soft blade sucks
Are you sure about that? Kidding. I would love to test your stick I have heard great things. But I am much more critical and honest then others: Feel free to send me an email beerleaguebumhockey@gmail.com
So to this day I think my favorite stick remains to be either the original vapor apx or the original 1x. I prefer a stiffer blade too and on a low kick point stick like a trigger I feel its the best pairing for those quick release shots. I cannot understand why ccm wants to make every single stick feel the exact same. My first experience with that blade was on the ghost and I liked everything about that stick minus the blade. Interested to see what your thoughts are on the tracer when you try it out, at this point in time my next stick will either be a twitch or a tracer I think. Was getting ready to ask you in the comments if you think the vision would have that blade and well you pretty much answered that one so I probably will pass on it.
One of my fav sticks was the apx line as well. The intellisense kick point was excellent. Haha yah the vision will be a 500$ bust with a soft blade breaking. These sticks have all been planned and in production for a year easily. It’s gonna be awhile before ccm fixes this
Just some advice. If that is a DJI mic you are using, turn on the clipping control. I can hear your audio clipping several times during the video. Other than that, nice video.
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Clipping control is a setting that will prevent the audio levels from coming in too hot. I know the DJI mic mini has that feature, so if you talk too loud, it will bring down the signal to prevent audio clipping and distortion. However, I don't know about the normal DJI mics. Couldn't find out if they have that setting as well. If they don't, then you should set the gain lower on your mics. You also should adjust your camera settings because the camera could be introducing gain to the signal as well, blowing out the audio. This guy explains it pretty well in this video: ua-cam.com/video/sqwn0ayPRR4/v-deo.htmlsi=cmi88cS8VNpJQUwV Hope that helps.
Yeah ccms lines with their blades are not good. Anything more durable is from a generation or so ago. Ft5, trigger 6, sync, rekker, qr5, pro, anything from the last year isn’t greatly durable. Sticks seem to do this go in and out. When the big weight drops come to 340-360 it takes a couple generations to lay the carbon and tweak enough that it regains some durability. So we in the cycle where they dropped weight and it’s not durable for now. Probably will be in late 2025
Would still say that the CCM Trigger 4 Pro and the Jetspeed FT6 Pro are the best sticks ever produced by CCM; not surprisingly, these are sticks that precede the helicoid failure era of cosmic proportions. Have picked up a couple of FT6 Pro sticks online but they're getting increasingly harder to come by.
Agree Anders. Sucks they are getting harder to find. I think ccm has finally caught up with themselves on their releases and they need to get better and slow down
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Yes, it's quite unfortunate. CCM is going in the wrong direction on the durability of the blades, didn't see that coming .. yet here we are. Have to say that the FT6 Pro is an extremely durable stick, the amount of slappers it can handle it just insane. Great editing in the video Justin, you're getting there!
Gotta check out the qr6 pro by far my favorite stick this year, I’m lucky enough to play on a team that get to try all the latest and greatest and the warrior qr6 is just better then any CCM or bauers I’ve ever used. I was a die hard Jetspeed guy since they came out, the FT3 was my favorite but i couldn’t get them anymore so I went to the FT5, was going to switch to maybe the FT7 until I tried the QR6 pro, it’s 100% going to be my gamer for a while. Bauer sticks all suck in my opinion lol puck feel is good but they go soft so fast and the power is never there compared to CCM and now Warrior.
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The man continues his mission
I’m definitely trying!
A1 editing
Banger as per usual
Thank you. Trying to slowly make these more entertaining
Love the honesty and reviews I can trust
Thanks I’m glad !
Sherwood sticks really the last bastion of affordable sticks that don't implode while performing well.
Yes Sherwood for the win!
Wait til you find out about @prostocksticks
I second that. Totally agree
@ hopefully they stay in that realm don’t wanna see Sherwood going to 400!
After breaking tons of sticks this past summer agents, trigger 8s, ft7s, hyperlight 2s as6s I decided I was done buying expensive sticks and bought 2 pro stock as3 pros on sideline swap for 350 its been 4 months and neither has broken they are just tanks. stick durability has gotten so bad recently it amazes me. not just that but my shot is noticeably better with the older tacks models compared to how my as6 was and my teammates Xf pro
I love the as3. Absolute tank of a stick for shooting. I miss being able to just grab one on a whim retail. I may have to find some pro stocks
Facts. It's getting to the point where I'm carbon wrapping my helicoid blades as a precautionary measure. Right now you've got a choice between made-of-glass Bauer shafts or flaccid CCM blades. You can see why hockeystickman and the like are doing so well.
Yep in fact it may eventually with declining sales and warranties where ccm and Bauer may have to do something
i recently buy Trigger 9 Pro week ago.. and will let you know how long it lasted (i got Trigger6 pro - best stick so far and the blade becames soft but honestly after 2-3 years of intensive playing but not even brake or crack..) trigger 8pro still good, no problems so far.. . Good point about grip ribs relasing on "new" models > how pathetic of the marekting dpt of CCM. Next "brand new" model relase will be trigger 10 pro with technology "No-licoid" - the same blade asi Trigger 6 pro and grip without ribs.. :D thanks man for your job! ...going to donate for sure!
Thank you I saw that and much appreciated!! Trigger 6 pro was kinda first solid stick with all the features then they come and go lol
The best reviews on the UA-cam about hockey gear
Appreciate that!
love your videos man
Honestly it’s comments like this are the only reason I keep going 🤜
Have you tried the xf pro gloves?
No I did put them on in store felt nice
which stick do you recommend? go to bauer?
Excellent video as always. Curious since you sold this one, what are your go to gamer sticks right now?
Right now I don’t have a gamer as I haven’t settled on a stick. I have the xf pro which is next release but it’s junk so probably keep that video to like 5 min and move on with life lol
I’m going to test tracer, encrypt and qr6 so hopefully I find a gamer
Just couldn't bring myself to buy a helicoid blade. Went with Sherwood for the first time and got an Encrypt Pro. Not disappointed thus far.
I want an encrypt probably soon
I do remember your initial video about helicoid or whatamicallit. Still using my old trigger.
Old ones are the bomb. I saw trigger 6 pros on sale at the hockey shop near me 199$ I’m tempted
CCM release the CCM vision stick and it’s $400 USD!! A review would be sick because of the 6 side taper at the top (XF pro) and the ultra low kick point(tigger) and I wonder how it performs because you’re the only honest reviewer
I know the cost is insane though in scandal it’s 570$ which is bananas
I have the 7,8 and 9 pro. The blade on the 9 sounds so hollow. Every time I knock a pass out of the air it sounds like it breaks. I broke my first 9 on the shaft blocking a slap shot. Since getting the warranty stick it’s held up. If you want the dual feel blade, which I like, then just get the 8. The only difference I’ve felt is the blade weight which is minimal. Everything else feels the same.
Yes very much so. The 8 is slightly more durable as didn’t add helicoid
The state of the retail stick market is just brutal now. I don't think I could bring myself to buy anything. I'd be scared to battle for a puck lol. Pretty sure the last top end retail stick I bought was a Jetspeed FT2.
I had been using Pro Stock Jetspeed's for a while (FT4-FT6 Pro), but found I actually like the shooting with Triggers a bit more in recent months (Trigger 7 Pro mainly). Even those don't hold up fantastically (I found Jetspeeds held up longer than these few Triggers), the pricing is becoming a bit inflated in the pro stock market as well (still much better), and it can be difficult to find the perfect specs at times.
I think I'm firmly using PRO OG Red sticks and not looking back at this point. ~400 grams, beefed up shaft walls, low kick, solid feel, and come with a 64" shaft so I no longer have to mess around with extensions. Can basically get 3 at once shipped for the price of one of these and not feel worried about a simple stick battle or leaning into a shot.
I’m with you. The pro stock market is getting more lucrative for those who want solid sticks but not doing this 450$ thing. I noticed that the new pro stocks are a bit higher priced but I want to see how they perform as the OGs are solid
As a person who has a trigger 9 pro the blade f ing sucks and the foam in the blade had broken so the outer layer is the only thing that’s keeping the blade tg thank god I got a Sherwood to play with until my twitch came
Ouch that’s rough. It’s frustrating to spend this on a stick and it’s toast fast.
Do the trigger 8 pro blades break easy too? With that soft blade tech?
Less then the 9 but not by much
Prostock hockey sticks new line at least on of them would be a great video
I really want too probably in new year
Got to feel the vision at my local store and it feels really good but the helicoid sucks but it’s the best ccm stick I’ve felt in a long time
I haven’t seen it here yet. The price in Canada is remoured to be 569$ which is absolutely crazy. With a soft blade that could last mere hours it’s a scary combo
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviewsyeah it’s $499 us but they changed up the top grip to mold to the hand similar to the geo grip but feels a little better but the soft blade sucks
@ unfortunately they probably threw that blade on it a year ago prob won’t see change for awhile on ccm sticks
We'd love to send you a stick to test out!
Are you sure about that? Kidding.
I would love to test your stick I have heard great things. But I am much more critical and honest then others: Feel free to send me an email beerleaguebumhockey@gmail.com
@ and we respect that, wouldn’t have offered if we didn’t back our product! I’ll send you an email!
@ sounds great. I’ll discuss there! Cheers
I think more people are starting to believe! Good stuff as always
Let’s hope so!
So to this day I think my favorite stick remains to be either the original vapor apx or the original 1x. I prefer a stiffer blade too and on a low kick point stick like a trigger I feel its the best pairing for those quick release shots. I cannot understand why ccm wants to make every single stick feel the exact same. My first experience with that blade was on the ghost and I liked everything about that stick minus the blade. Interested to see what your thoughts are on the tracer when you try it out, at this point in time my next stick will either be a twitch or a tracer I think. Was getting ready to ask you in the comments if you think the vision would have that blade and well you pretty much answered that one so I probably will pass on it.
One of my fav sticks was the apx line as well. The intellisense kick point was excellent. Haha yah the vision will be a 500$ bust with a soft blade breaking. These sticks have all been planned and in production for a year easily. It’s gonna be awhile before ccm fixes this
Apreciate you, thanks man
Thank you! Appreciate the support
please review the qr6 pro! the blade is amazing compared to helicoid bs
On my list :)
Just some advice. If that is a DJI mic you are using, turn on the clipping control. I can hear your audio clipping several times during the video. Other than that, nice video.
What’s clipper control? I appreciate the help and feedback
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Clipping control is a setting that will prevent the audio levels from coming in too hot. I know the DJI mic mini has that feature, so if you talk too loud, it will bring down the signal to prevent audio clipping and distortion. However, I don't know about the normal DJI mics. Couldn't find out if they have that setting as well. If they don't, then you should set the gain lower on your mics. You also should adjust your camera settings because the camera could be introducing gain to the signal as well, blowing out the audio. This guy explains it pretty well in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/sqwn0ayPRR4/v-deo.htmlsi=cmi88cS8VNpJQUwV
Hope that helps.
@ thank you I will have a look much appreciated
I've seen the new CCM Vision ultra low kick 😮💨
Ultra 570$ cad here, just crazy
In your opinion, What are the most durable/best performing high end sticks right now? Seems ccm is not in the conversation 😂
Yeah ccms lines with their blades are not good. Anything more durable is from a generation or so ago. Ft5, trigger 6, sync, rekker, qr5, pro, anything from the last year isn’t greatly durable. Sticks seem to do this go in and out. When the big weight drops come to 340-360 it takes a couple generations to lay the carbon and tweak enough that it regains some durability. So we in the cycle where they dropped weight and it’s not durable for now. Probably will be in late 2025
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews thanks 👍
Would still say that the CCM Trigger 4 Pro and the Jetspeed FT6 Pro are the best sticks ever produced by CCM; not surprisingly, these are sticks that precede the helicoid failure era of cosmic proportions. Have picked up a couple of FT6 Pro sticks online but they're getting increasingly harder to come by.
Agree Anders. Sucks they are getting harder to find. I think ccm has finally caught up with themselves on their releases and they need to get better and slow down
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Yes, it's quite unfortunate. CCM is going in the wrong direction on the durability of the blades, didn't see that coming .. yet here we are. Have to say that the FT6 Pro is an extremely durable stick, the amount of slappers it can handle it just insane.
Great editing in the video Justin, you're getting there!
Thanks my friend always working to improve. Slowly! Lol
Preach it brother😂 🙌
You know it!
You’re my hero
Well thank you! I’m glad I can be a good influence
does Matt from Hockey Reviews know you're talking about him? hahaa
Hard to say when I first started he made a comment once when I called him out so I’m gonna say maybe
my goat
Thanks !!🙏
10 year old broke to blades in 30 days. Sucks as these sticks are not cheap.
Yikes that’s not good and that’s a kid! That’s even worse
Gotta check out the qr6 pro by far my favorite stick this year, I’m lucky enough to play on a team that get to try all the latest and greatest and the warrior qr6 is just better then any CCM or bauers I’ve ever used. I was a die hard Jetspeed guy since they came out, the FT3 was my favorite but i couldn’t get them anymore so I went to the FT5, was going to switch to maybe the FT7 until I tried the QR6 pro, it’s 100% going to be my gamer for a while. Bauer sticks all suck in my opinion lol puck feel is good but they go soft so fast and the power is never there compared to CCM and now Warrior.
The qr6 looks solid overall and it’s on the list