@@Listentomoreunderground he moved further away so he's not in videos anymore but he was at the DG Open House Car Show & Cruise with us. Follow him at @project.black.jack on Instagram
We just replaced a 6.2l in a Union Pacific truck with 302k miles on it, one of the rocker arms blew up. 19k operating hours and 12k idle hours, pretty impressive in a big utility truck.
the main reason the spring breaks is the height of the spring is too tall and can bend sideways while compressed. that being said, My 6.2 has 216k and 10,000 idle hours. Absolutely love it coming from a 5.4 3v, and it pulls and sounds great too. Very underrated engine
To everyone reading this worried about valve springs while it is the engine's most common issue, it's not something that is totally widespread. Most 6.2s will never have a valve spring failure and and an even smaller number will have catastrophic damage from such failure. Its not a big enough issue to warrant fear of it
@@neilfajnor8990 I have a 6.2L. Also have a DOHC 32V 4.6L that broke a valve spring (it is in a FWD car) was not a big deal to fix. Car runs fine for a decade.
@rustyshakleford5230 doesn't ever need it. The chain will last the entire life of the engine. Obviously if the engine needs major work it's a good idea to replace it while it apart.
I am the original owner of a 2016 F250 6.2 with 165k miles and I have had ZERO issues with my engine/trans. Fingers crossed it stays that way cause that truck is paid off and it was EXPENSIVE back then!
@@aggressivelyamicable5987 Based on my last six months of shopping for these everyday I would assume XL or XLT at most. Unless there was considerable body damage or something he's not mentioning.
I work for the Parks and Rec. department of a city, and our entire fleet is Ford F250's with the 6.2. So far, it's been a very reliable engine, although the trucks are only about 4 years old. Plenty of power too. 👌
When this engine was still experimental, it was a 7.0L V8 in Don Bowles yellow mustang! The new 7.3L and 6.8L V8 are based on the BOSS architecture and all have a 115mm bore spacing. If you end up looking for aftermarket parts, Livernois Motorsports supports these engines! They were introduced to the F250 in 2011. Roush also makes superchargers if boost is your game! Fun fact, the bell housing is the same as the modular family of engines.
@@desertfresh3740 The 6.2L was a clean sheet design when it came out. FP was looking to build a race engine that was a spiritual successor to the 427 cammer. Something else to note is the bore centers and deck height land this block close to the size of the old FEs. The 6.2L is about as related to the 7.3L is as the 4.6 2V is to the coyote. It's an evolution. The bearings on the 7.3L/6.8L now use standard modular size bearings but it was essentially the 6.2 worked over to be a pushrod engine that can support relatively big cubes, at least for a production engine. I'll see if YT will let me post the link to the page about the development of the 6.2L and the 777 engine.
I do remember seeing that experimental engine of Don Bowels in Muscle Mustangs and Fast Ford's. I can still see those blue valve covers and see through glass looking intake manifold.
Worked on the heads for this motor. This motor was designed with plans to get up to 8L with larger bores. The airflow potential for this motor is crazy as the raised port allows a straight shot on the intake valve.
@@pablotharpalo5685 More like Godzilla is a regression of Boss. Boss should have been given those Siamese cylinder walls with Godzilla bore size (+larger valves) and Godzilla compression ratio. It would have been a much more powerful engine and more reliable
My company truck had a 6.2, pulled our big scissor lift around just fine and was the main plow rig for the area I worked in. Ran great and had plenty of power. I'm not much of a Ford guy but I was impressed with it.
I was a truck tech for ford for 5 years and I’ve seen hundreds of 6.2s in both private and fleet trucks and have maybe seen 5 or so broken valve springs on them and even fewer of them lead to catastrophic failure. The pre 17 6.2s are endlessly reliable and really only saw occasional oil and coolant leaks and they all will eventually crack the exhaust manifolds between cyl 3 and 4 and cyl 7 and 8 and on the newer ones the only constant recurring issues I saw were intake runners binding.
Im a red seal tech in rural b.c. these engines are in most of the logging trucks we work on, and they are incredibly reliable. Very very few with major problems. Most of which live on logging roads, and have thousands of idle hours. One has 475,000 km and close to 12-15000 idle hours. Still going stong, and never been apart.
My works shop truck is a 2012 f-350 with a 6.2. She’s got 358,000 miles on the clock. Runs like a top. Definitely gutless but dead reliable. EDIT: Truck now has over 363,000 and still running great. Been doing a ton of driving.
And you didn't even have to join a class action lawsuit against Ford! Astonishing! I had a '97 Ford E150. Great work van, never gave us trouble. But I still wouldn't buy a Ford product ever again.
@@holeshot1721the 6.2 in the f150’s were a beast! The 11-16 super duties were dogs. The 2017 and newer 6.2 super duties though have plenty more punch and snap than the older ones. I have a 2017 and it’ll dance the tires from a stop light and it will chirp 2nd gear!
Same here I got a 2011 Ford raptor with the 6.2, 140k miles and ZERO issues with the motor. Just do regular oil changes and maintenance and they run forever. Mine is even has a 91 octane tune from SCT, JTL intake and muffler.
Buddy of mine works at a Ford dealership and has his own shop at home, ive seen quite a few spring issues and range from getting lucky on start up and head a tick then shut it down to them driving it towards the dealer dropping the valve and ventilating the block. Its surely been enough problems for Ford to step up and cover their problems instead of just leaving it and passing their faults on to the consumer. Sadly thats what all automakers are doing now, people will argue and put their brand on a pedestal but all brands are guilty of hiding their faults……btw im Ford camp all the way and have a 6.8 3V for my 79 F150 and a 6.2 for my Falcon wagon both will see boost.
Got a 6.2 in a 2012 F250. Has the LOUDEST intake roar I have ever heard in a stock vehicle when you floor it. Biggest issue we have had at 160k miles is coil packs. I think we have had at least 3 go bad on it
Driving a 2017 f350 6.2 as a mechnic truck. Loaded down with tools/parts weighing over 10,000lbs. She likes her fuel for sure but 350,000km and 6200 engine hours. Try not to idle it much. In my opinion is a sufficient powerplant for the combination
I have one loaded down with plumbing gear it’s a 2021 bought it from a mobile mechanic it’s a nice truck your comment makes me comfortable with my purchase, she is definitely a thirsty girl but it sounds nice and is plenty powerful
I work on guys 6.2 raptor and it has a roush supercharger since almost new has almost 200,000 now runs flawlessly I thought that a pretty good motor to take boost that long with no problems
I know, right? I love the 6.2L, but I believe that since they stopped putting them in the F150’s and never put them in the Mustang, that killed any demand for aftermarket goodies. Gobs of untapped potential.
It doesn’t help how big they are. I swapped in a 6.2 in my crown Vic and had to remove the wiper motors to get to fit. But I’m hoping we can get some cam options. Mine made 990 with twin turbos completely stock long block.
Shortly after getting a 2020 f250 with 80k miles on it I asked a very good mechanic out in Oklahoma where he cares for dozens of farm truck with the 6.2L . He said there are lots of them with between 230,000 & over 300,000 miles worked hard and going strong,he does have one parked behind the shop waiting for a new motor.
I drive a 22 f250 crew cab with a service bed loaded with tools and oil and pull a trailer frequently. 40,000 miles and 320 idle hours, so far it seems like a good running work horse.
6.2 ford is found in bigger bandit wood chippers too and they take some abuse when running anything above an 8 inch log. Lots of rpm and load on them in that application.
I have an 18xp with a psi 350, It blew up twice so I finally upgraded to a gm crate 350 vortec and its a lot better now. I've wondered how the fords work as a replacement
Absolutely love mine in my 2012 F250 it has been very reliable. I regularly pull a 32 foot fifth wheel camper with it which it handles quite well. Short distance driving it doesn't get great fuel mileage but it does great for what it is on longer highway trips for economy.
Im a general superintendent for a bridge company in VA, all of our pick up trucks are 6.2s and they all have 200k plus and still going strong, and our guys abuse the hell out of them.
My 2011 F150 has a 6.2. Currently at 258,000 miles. Running strong still. Basic maintenance. Only issue is an exhaust stud broke so have a little leak at startup.
Excellent video, I have a Job 1 2011 F250 Lariat FX4 Crew Cab that was built May 2010 (has the cool magnesium valve covers). Bought it in 2012 with 92,000 Km on it. It now has 175,000KM and is probably the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I only use it now to pull our 35ft TT but it has pulled that trailer weighing 9k all over the US through the Smokies with 4 adults in the truck. When I tow long distance I use 91 octane in it and the longer I tow the more power it seems to have as it adapts to the fuel. I change the oil every 8000 Km or less with full synthetic and the oil always comes out looking close to what it looked like when I put it in. The only thing that has ever been replaced on the truck was the PS pump as it developed an internal leak. I replaced the front brake pads once and have done all the fluids and plugs. It is my forever truck as I have not found anything that make me think humm wish I had that. Last fall I drove from Moose Jaw to Calgary at around 115kph and averaged 14l/100 Km (20 mpg imperial) 0n Duratracks That was hand calculated.
I have a 2012 f350 6.2 work truck has just over 250,000 miles only done spark plugs and oils changes / basic maintenance truck pulls a 9 ton trailer she not fast or powerful but dame reliable by far the best truck I have ever bought for work. Ps the she drinks fule lol
I love my 6.2. I do agree that the valve spring issue is a problem and should have actually been dealt with and fixed by Ford. It was a known problem well before they ended production of the 6.2.
I maintain a fleet of FedEx trucks and we have a number of E 450's with 6.2L and I have had good luck with them I've fixed a bent valve on on it was caused by a intake leak it had 250k miles just fixed the valve and put new timing chains and it runs awesome again
Someone else probably already mentioned this, but the 6.2 went into the super duties 2011 and up as the base engine up until the 6.8 mini Zilla. Wasn’t used in the medium duty rigs…those were still powered by the v10 until 2020 when they went to the 7.3.
I definitely wouldn't consider the Ford 6.2 as a competitor to the GM 6.2 or 6.2 Hemi...those are both more performance oriented engines. They don't use them in work duty applications. The GM 6.2 is a car/light duty performance engine option. The 6.2 Hemi is for sports cars. The Ford 6.2 is mainly a super duty engine, along with the F150 for a few years*heavy tow package I believe) and the Raptor.
I was going to say, gm could of put the 6.2 in the 2500 and up instead of staying with the 6.0 (which is what the 6.2 was compeeting with.) But them not shows it must not hold up to those environments.
The 6.0 is an iron blocked pig designed to last forever, the 6.2 is a high compression engine that needs premium fuel. Obviously they could detune it but it's just not a work horse. @@tangydiesel1886
Did the chevys that failed have the original oil pump? As preventative maintenance replace the oil pump before 200k. That seems to be the failure point for those motors.
What are your thoughts on the 6R100 ??? How is it compared to the 4R100 that was used before like in the powerstroke? I know the 6R140 is a lot “beefier” but is it worth buying a 13-16 vs a 20-22 with a 6.2 ?? I was looking at 21-22 but still considering a 13-16 as well… I’m 6’5” and like reg cab trucks and the new style has more leg room… but a solid reliable 3/4 ton is #1 I don’t daily heavy haul/tow but when I do I don’t want a 1/2 ton that’s “maxed” out…. As always thank you for all the great videos and wealth of knowledge you provide!!!
i have a f-250 with 160k miles on it. i do 5k oil changes and it is working perfectly. i am starting to hear the 'manifold tic' - but no lights. i was going to trade it in at 150k when i ran into a guy driving through Santa rosa,nm that had 1 million miles written on his f-250 truck - it was the original 6.2l - he had it apart twice for maintenance and new timing chains. i decided to keep this one forever - thanks for the video , really shows in detail this well engineered engine.
We have a 2012 F250 and have about 200K and its been a very good truck and engine. I can say the 6.2 is hands down way better than the dog 5.4 triton. It was bought used with about 100K (was used to pull trailers and the guy took good care of it), the last 100K has been used basically as a farm truck. All the rattling, bouncing, dusty and muddy conditions that comes with that, it has held up well with no oil leaks that I can tell. Its had regular oil changes and so far its only needed replace two of the eight original coil packs in the last 5K and as far as I know it doesn't consume any oil.
I wanted to see a 6.2 cracked open. I don't like the 16 plug set up. I do like that it has 4 bolt mains with over head cams vs push rods. I own a F-250 with the 6.2 engine, auto trans 6 speed. It's hauled the heavy over and over and been very reliable. 134659 miles, serviced between 5 and 7 k intervals. I run 5/30 Valvoline simi synthetic in it, not 5/20. It's just my choice. I have cracked open many engines running Valvoline that are gas and Rotella 15/40 in diesel engines. To me they seem cleaner inside. No black sludge build up and the oil doesn't stain your hands when you wash your hands off. lol. Good share. Thank you.
True. I had a 2011 Limited Lariat F-150 with the 6.2 motor and never had any problems with it. There were no call out badges on the truck indicating that it had the 6.2 so it was kind of a sleeper.
@@danbourg76 Yes I have an 11 6.2L Maxtow Platnium F150. The LL can't tow much. Mine is rated to 11.1K lbs. No 6.2L badge. Has 200K, runs great, but he valve spring is making me nervous!
Great video. I really enjoy the "Everything Wrong with..." series. It looks like you've done the Hemi and two Fords at this point that I could find. If they are always doing GM engines in the shop, how about a 6.0 Vortec from a 2500 Series?
I have a buddy that bought one of the early Harley Davidson 6.2s and he’s got a pile of miles on it now and she’s still going strong. The valve springs are a big issue but you can hardly blame that on ford, that’s a vendor issue and someone there wasn’t doing quality control. The ecoboosts have had valves snap for no reason other than it seems they weren’t heat treated properly and got too brittle, on nearly new vehicles too. It seems nothing is made very well anymore.
In theory they’re made the same but quality control has gone down due to it being high demand rush job, everyone wants parts quick but with that being done things get missed. It happens
Ford just spent a billion on quality this year. It is absolutely a Ford problem. Other makes also use valve springs. If you don't meet their demand, they'll just another vendor.
The problem is there are only a couple vendors left. So one basically can complain, but you just can't change vendors, there are so few left. Every engine has these problems, however Toyota still manufacturers some of their parts. We have had a garage full of "dead" hemi engines. Ricardo engineering did the design of the hemi engine, but they seem too have lots of vendor related problems. Fiat just gave up, trying to fix problems, many vendor related.
I have a 2001 Chevy Z71 4x4 with a 5.3 Vortec it's still runs as good as the day I bought it and it has 225k miles on it. Just doing normal maintenance and I run Rotella T6 in it.
I’ve had multiple of these trucks and put over 600k combined on them with out any issues at all. Hands down one of the the most reliable engines I’ve had experience with
Hey Rich is there an engine in a vehicle which you would call BULLITT proof ,here in Australia in the 70, 80,s our Ford V8,s Holden GM Australia V8,s and Chrysler engines were low Tech but ever so reliable seems today's engines are stretched to their limits ,what's your pick of the best vehicle you,'ve owned.Thanks love your channel ,all the people you deal with very funny and knowledgeable. Cheers Kym Adelaide
I have been very pleased with my '17 F250 with 6.2L. I tow 11k toyhauler with it and I believe it's an incredibly underestimated engine. I have owned the other major HD gas engines as well, 6.2L has outperformed. I do wish mine had the 10 speed and 4.30 gears though, driven quite a few w/ 10 speed and it does tow better.
ABOUT TIME we see something on a 6.2 . Nothing at all on them. Been wantimg to swap out a 4.6 2 vavle out of a mustang for a 6.2 . I already know you can block out one set of plugs and use the 4.6/5.4 computer. Add cams and boost and easy 600hp . Add rods and pistons 800 easy .
@@Brennan.larson in some race classes. You aren't allowed to have 2 sets. Also. Mamy have used the 4.6 and 5.4 pc to run the 6.2 in those year mustangs
@@Spad68 yeah, you don’t have to block out any plugs. It only has 8 ignition coils. Believe me, I know people are swapping them for mod motors, I’m currently doing it.
I have a 2019 Ford F250 with a 6.2 course I only have 44,000 miles on it. I did do a tune and modified the air intake and went with full dual exhaust cause I pull a travel trailer so far I’m happy.
I used to work on Moomba, Tige, and other boats with these 6.2s, other than being crammed in too small of a space these engines are great. 16 spark plugs lol
We have several at work. Our "spare" truck is a 2015 F250 service body truck with nearly 400k miles on it... and that is 400k miles nearly all in the DC metro area with 1,500# of ironworking tools in the bed 24/7.
Bought a 6.0 LQ4 with a “fueling issue” for a steal, bearings weren’t loose, oil looked good, so I brought it home. Pulled everything off except for the heads to re seal it and found a broken exhaust spring. Changed out all the springs when I put a cam in it, took an indicator down the exhaust port to the sealing angle on the valve, it only had maybe .0002-.0003” of runout and it’s been running for 6 months now in a project.
We have lots of these engines in our work trucks and they really do last a long time. our maintenance probably changes oil in these once every year if they are lucky. Mine currently has 176k miles on it. We have a 2011 that has 130k and it has an occasional misfire but it otherwise runs great!
200,000mi on mine. Several cracked manifolds. Did plugs, belt and fluids at 100,000mi. Still on original suspension components, ball joints, and axles. The six speed transmission works great and I love the manual mode. Truck is still running great.
I think for tue next engine review, you should do a 2uzfe. I have one, and it's been amazing. 220,000 miles on it with no problems. I've heard of them doing a lot more than that as well.
Yeah, heard claims as high as 500k. Not very powerful, not really any engine upgrades aside from exhaust or internal changes for forced induction. Non vvti is supposedly non interference. Interesting to know since I just snapped a timing belt on mine.
@@Digital_DairyI have an 03 non vvti with 210k miles. The last 35k I’ve put on it are HARD miles. My gf has an 05 with the vvti. Idk about not much power because it runs damn good. I ran dead even with a 2021 ecoboost ford explorer and it has 247k miles. The explorer has 11k. It’s my brothers gfs. And my brother just went and bought an 05 as well because he seen the abuse mines taken and he used to have an 02 tundra with 271k miles but the rest of the truck was shot. I’ve never ran out of power ever. My gf’s 05 actually outran a hemi charger as well. 2010ish model.
My 2019 F250 at 119k miles got some bad gas, three injectors failed and hurt the pistons. Got a long block from Jasper, has 40k on it so far, and it actually runs better than the original eng, more power and a little better fuel economy.
I'd hope so. The Coyote is a Mustang engine that works fine for light/medium towing duties in the F-150, the 6.2L was always designed with the intent of being a HD truck engine.
Had a bunch of these engines, only drive these because they’re E85 for my air conditioning company my newest one from 2022 only has 10,000 miles and it ticks (quiet)like crazy been to the dealer a dozen times they say it’s normal operation 🤦♂️
No oil squirters is actually a dumb idea. Just replace the oil pump with one that flows more oil and stick a bigger oil pan on. All modern Diesel turbocharged engines use oil squirters to cool the bottom of the pistons and are required to manage the amount of extra fuel they use in the engines to perform active regen going down the road. Cummins in particular, as they've done away with the Exhaust injector and use the fuel map to make the exhaust hot enough to heat up the DOC. The same applies to higher cylinder temperatures from running leaner under above atmospheric in gasoline engines.
17 F250 6.2L 43K miles. Earlier this year at 41K I started to get a Cyl 8 misfire on startup CEL. Over $1000 later for 16 plugs, 8 wires & 8 coils and 6 hours of cursing in my driveway. My topside plugs were all corroded, 2 were even broken, and the plug springs were all corroded. My theory is the dealership detailing the engine bay pressure washing the engine jams water right under the boot and down in the spark plug hole, filling it with water and causing corrosion. Ive been happy with the engine aside from this. Came out of a 03 6.0 PSD fully bulletproofed and tuned, which I miss. I know, who says they miss their 6.0. I had a lot of blood sweat and tears in that one. This truck has been nothing but nonsense with all the stupid nitpicky recall BS.
the 6.2 was in 2011 ford trucks .I had a broken spring ,easy fix .the spark plugs are easy to reach on the out side location.the water pumps are easy to replace for a modern engine
Yess! Scott, easily my favorite machinist. He really knows his stuff, and now when he and Rich know a lot better, the banter has gotten sooo good! 😂😂 I could listen to these info bombs all day. 👍
Cool video. Our shop truck (mobile maintenance) is a 2020 F-350 6.2, makes me a little concerned but it has under 10k so🤞 To add to the advantages of a larger bore to be able to put larger valves in, of course on a stock port there is a limit to the advantages. Surprising that a stock engine, esp in a work truck that's been thoroughly maintained would be breaking valve springs though. That is worrisome
Loving this video. Question: I'm clear on piston circumference to wrist pin, my question is- does the larger compression area impact mileage noticeably
I bought a used 2011 F350 with the 6.2 and it’s used oil since day one. It had 89k when I bought it and unfortunately last year at 176K it lost oil pressure , before that it’s had 2 crank sensors an oil cooler and water pump. Love the truck but this engine has been a nightmare- my 99 v10 had 334k before any issues. Hoping I can rebuild it this spring but won’t know till I get it tore down as to actual damage, never locked up but if you rev it the oil pressure falls completely off gauge.
My only beef with the 6.2 Ford was it became unavailable in the half ton truck when Ford introduced the 3.5 turbo back around 2011. Ford's senior management is the worst of the Big 3
Actually, the 6.2L was available from 2011-2014 in the F150’s right along side the 3.5 EcoBoost and the Coyote. They were no longer available in the F150 starting in 2015 when they went to the aluminum body. Total bummer. I believe that’s a big reason for the lack of aftermarket support.
@@jimparker7778 I am not mistaken. The 6.2L was an option in the 2011-2014 F150. Typically a Lariat or Platinum. I’m not going to argue with random guy on the internet, but you’re free to believe whatever you’d like.
97 K1500 with 350TBI. Just hit 468,000 miles. Dad and grandpa did all the oil changes up to a few years ago, than I took over. Plugs and filters. And a new cap and rotor. Believe that is all that’s been replaced.
I know my 2020 f350 lost its 6.2L engine under 4300 miles. Checked the oil, when it started making terrible noises, and it looked like glitter on the dipstick….thats usually not a good thing. Sat at the dealership for 7 months since the warranty engine was “back ordered” from Ford allegedly. If the engine was back ordered for that long, I suspect they’ve had some major issues-and are trying to avoid a mass recall. I’ve seen (and used) a bunch of 6.2’s that go huge miles in work trucks with no problems, mine was not one of them.
I’ve got a 2017 F250 with 146k miles it’s been about 15-20k but noticed a noise at idle, thought maybe it was crank shaft bearing of some sort. Using a stethescope, only place I can hear it amplified is on the oil filter. It’s a rotational sound, not consistent always at idle. But sounds like a chuke chuke chuke. Engine had no issues and Blackstone labs don’t show any issues in oil analysis. Any ideas? Harmonic balancer? Oil pump? I’m stumped….
The 2011-2016 6.2 is an absolute dog. The 2017-2022 6.2 is a whole different animal. My 2017 only has 45k on it so far, but so far, so good. It has way more pulling power than my 5.0 Coyote. Such a good motor!
Just worked on a 6.2 today at work, those spark plugs suck if you’re trying to replace in truck, if you’re not worried about torque spec then it makes it way easier……
My truck dropped valve on #3 cylinder on passenger side and made nuggets of piston, broke piston and wrist pin in to pan broke rod and destroyed block. All over a broken valve spring while pulling trailer going up hill at 65mph. No warning it just detonated like a grenade. $7K for engine here in US.
Thoughts on the following: My 2019 6.2 has 272k miles (oil field) and if I was in a position to have to replace it... worth the work to move to 7.3 Godzilla with 10 speed? Compare with buying a whole new truck. I'm guessing not, but the idea seems fun. Would likely just buy a HIGH mileage 7.3 ready to roll.
I do know that on high horsepower 2jz builds they delete the squirters too because of what Scott said. Think they are there for low maintenance and reliability. Do one on the 3.5 eco boost!
I have one in my F-250 it’s been a dream of a vehicle to own but I’m get close to 160k miles now and I appreciate the insight on the potential defect. I previously owned a f-150 with a 5.4 that broke a valve spring among other issues I had with it😢😢😢
I have a 2011 f250 with the 6.2, bought it when i was 18, had 200k on it when i bought it, ran like it was new, had an oil leak into coolant via a bad oil cooler, mekanik told me it was common and i got a new coolant system, ran it for 2 years and it needed new timing chain guides, now by this point it had skipped timing teeth, it was playing a knock knock joke on the piston tops, didn't have the money for a mechanic to do it, didn't have engine swap money, did it myself, learned wrenching isn't for me, ran like a very oily top for 2 years and i decided to get the engine changed, after a very long wait i finally have my new engine in and it already has 2k miles on it, no complaints. I put my old engine through hell, it pulled things it shouldn't have, at speeds it shouldn't have, up hills it shouldn't have, i have since grown a spine and learned how to tell my dad a trailer isn't going on my truck. The 6.2 never left me stranded and i am very happy with it, gas milage is killer though.
6.2 is good. I didn’t hate mine. It needed cats tho bc it was a high hour truck as a former service truck. It only had 100k on the ODO tho. It would start with no block heater at -40f.
I was sold on the 6.2 when my previous boss bought a 2013 F350 with 6.2 power, a few years later I sold my F-350 with a 6.0 bought a 2016 F-350 with a 6.2 last year couldn't be anymore happy. Truck is reliable I'm not worried its going to cost me an arm and leg, it likes the gas but its far cheaper maintenance. Truck has 84,000kms it does what I need it to do. I feel the stock exhaust on the Superduty trucks is restrictive it feels like its holding back the 6.2 I may change out the exhaust in the spring. Changing out the spark plugs wasn't a fun job its done truck gets a bit better fuel mileage. I've also learned the 6.2s run a lot better on 91-93 octane our here in British Columbia regular gas is watered down sh*t. I'll never own a diesel pickup ever again not worth the headaches.
Have a 2011 F150 Limited trim, absolute beast in the f150…..the super duties are detuned a bit from the f150/Raptor. I’ve got 224,000 miles on it with normal maintenance it has never let me down. It is now my second truck so I plan on pulling the engine and going through it then adding some boost in the near future!
Which gen is considered the best? The 150 with the 6.2/6r80. 2011-16 6r140 or the 17+ alumiduties? Its interesting the 11-14 f150 came with the most power and the lightest transmission which should have been the least power loss to the wheels its to bad the lighter aluminum 150s never got to see this motor.
I don't think Scott wants to deal with that nor has the time to do all the camera stuff. Guess he's been really busy w\ all the work he's getting (being on DG def helped!) nowadays! If you remember, he hated the camera at first w\ Rich/DG. 🤔🤷🏻♂️👍👌🛠️🔧🔩🧰😎🍻
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Hey what happened to blackjack? Haven't seen him on the show in forever.
@@Listentomoreunderground he moved further away so he's not in videos anymore but he was at the DG Open House Car Show & Cruise with us. Follow him at @project.black.jack on Instagram
We just replaced a 6.2l in a Union Pacific truck with 302k miles on it, one of the rocker arms blew up. 19k operating hours and 12k idle hours, pretty impressive in a big utility truck.
yep 10,000 idle hours in mine with 220k and no signs of giving up. My truck was an oil field service rig.
Man I start running to my after it's been idling for a minute haha. I hate letting motors idle just a waste of money and is bad for everything.
@@trey.b-52 Guess my 11 F150 w/6.2L is just broken in at 190k.
Letting engines run at idle is absolutely not bad for anything. Nothing, period.
@@Casey_and_Cars I could give 5 reasons why not to let motors idle after warmed up. But since you have it all figured out I won't waste my time.
the main reason the spring breaks is the height of the spring is too tall and can bend sideways while compressed. that being said, My 6.2 has 216k and 10,000 idle hours. Absolutely love it coming from a 5.4 3v, and it pulls and sounds great too. Very underrated engine
To everyone reading this worried about valve springs while it is the engine's most common issue, it's not something that is totally widespread. Most 6.2s will never have a valve spring failure and and an even smaller number will have catastrophic damage from such failure. Its not a big enough issue to warrant fear of it
Had one break and just held Valve slightly open causing a mis-fire. Hey it happens 🤷♂️
@@neilfajnor8990 I have a 6.2L. Also have a DOHC 32V 4.6L that broke a valve spring (it is in a FWD car) was not a big deal to fix. Car runs fine for a decade.
What's your thoughts on timing chain replacement interval?
@rustyshakleford5230 doesn't ever need it. The chain will last the entire life of the engine. Obviously if the engine needs major work it's a good idea to replace it while it apart.
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I am the original owner of a 2016 F250 6.2 with 165k miles and I have had ZERO issues with my engine/trans. Fingers crossed it stays that way cause that truck is paid off and it was EXPENSIVE back then!
I just bought a sight unseen 2017 6.2 at $20k with 77k miles. Feeling better with these comments.
@@JasonCollette-eb8mw What trim package and notable upgrades (if any)? Assuming $20k USD and that seems like a very good price.
@@aggressivelyamicable5987 it is a contractor truck
@@aggressivelyamicable5987 Based on my last six months of shopping for these everyday I would assume XL or XLT at most. Unless there was considerable body damage or something he's not mentioning.
I work for the Parks and Rec. department of a city, and our entire fleet is Ford F250's with the 6.2. So far, it's been a very reliable engine, although the trucks are only about 4 years old. Plenty of power too. 👌
What parks and rec you work for cuz mine got em too
Ron Swanson?😂
When this engine was still experimental, it was a 7.0L V8 in Don Bowles yellow mustang! The new 7.3L and 6.8L V8 are based on the BOSS architecture and all have a 115mm bore spacing. If you end up looking for aftermarket parts, Livernois Motorsports supports these engines! They were introduced to the F250 in 2011. Roush also makes superchargers if boost is your game! Fun fact, the bell housing is the same as the modular family of engines.
What BOSS architecture? I'm assuming you don't mean the heads, or block , since that's pushrod vs OHC
@@desertfresh3740 The 6.2L was a clean sheet design when it came out. FP was looking to build a race engine that was a spiritual successor to the 427 cammer. Something else to note is the bore centers and deck height land this block close to the size of the old FEs. The 6.2L is about as related to the 7.3L is as the 4.6 2V is to the coyote. It's an evolution. The bearings on the 7.3L/6.8L now use standard modular size bearings but it was essentially the 6.2 worked over to be a pushrod engine that can support relatively big cubes, at least for a production engine. I'll see if YT will let me post the link to the page about the development of the 6.2L and the 777 engine.
I do remember seeing that experimental engine of Don Bowels in Muscle Mustangs and Fast Ford's. I can still see those blue valve covers and see through glass looking intake manifold.
Worked on the heads for this motor. This motor was designed with plans to get up to 8L with larger bores. The airflow potential for this motor is crazy as the raised port allows a straight shot on the intake valve.
@@pablotharpalo5685 More like Godzilla is a regression of Boss.
Boss should have been given those Siamese cylinder walls with Godzilla bore size (+larger valves) and Godzilla compression ratio.
It would have been a much more powerful engine and more reliable
My company truck had a 6.2, pulled our big scissor lift around just fine and was the main plow rig for the area I worked in. Ran great and had plenty of power. I'm not much of a Ford guy but I was impressed with it.
I was a truck tech for ford for 5 years and I’ve seen hundreds of 6.2s in both private and fleet trucks and have maybe seen 5 or so broken valve springs on them and even fewer of them lead to catastrophic failure. The pre 17 6.2s are endlessly reliable and really only saw occasional oil and coolant leaks and they all will eventually crack the exhaust manifolds between cyl 3 and 4 and cyl 7 and 8 and on the newer ones the only constant recurring issues I saw were intake runners binding.
Ive run GM 6.0, Ram 6.4 and Ford 6.2 in work trucks and all of them did well. Given equal maintenance, all of them are pretty datn reliable.
Im a red seal tech in rural b.c. these engines are in most of the logging trucks we work on, and they are incredibly reliable. Very very few with major problems. Most of which live on logging roads, and have thousands of idle hours. One has 475,000 km and close to 12-15000 idle hours. Still going stong, and never been apart.
Good to hear I just got my 19 with 120 on it
This is the kind of reason I bought my first gen Raptor with 105K miles
They just keep going
My works shop truck is a 2012 f-350 with a 6.2. She’s got 358,000 miles on the clock. Runs like a top. Definitely gutless but dead reliable.
EDIT: Truck now has over 363,000 and still running great. Been doing a ton of driving.
And you didn't even have to join a class action lawsuit against Ford! Astonishing! I had a '97 Ford E150. Great work van, never gave us trouble. But I still wouldn't buy a Ford product ever again.
Cute my 1998 tdi engine had 300k back in 2010😂
Only gutless cause they are power limted! Open up the ecm and that puppy burns thoose tires off threw 2 nd gear
Ford is trash
@@holeshot1721the 6.2 in the f150’s were a beast! The 11-16 super duties were dogs. The 2017 and newer 6.2 super duties though have plenty more punch and snap than the older ones. I have a 2017 and it’ll dance the tires from a stop light and it will chirp 2nd gear!
This engine was really compeeting against the GM 6.0 and Ram 6.4.
That was my thought as well
Exactly
Lol I was about to comment the same thing the ford 6.2 was a workhorse never made to compete with the hell cat engine lol😂
True
I own a 2012 Raptor with the 6.2L, it has close to 190k miles, best engine ever. Very powerful and reliable. It also sounds awesome
Same here I got a 2011 Ford raptor with the 6.2, 140k miles and ZERO issues with the motor. Just do regular oil changes and maintenance and they run forever. Mine is even has a 91 octane tune from SCT, JTL intake and muffler.
@@quickcp1 do you recommend the tune? Did you feel a lot of difference?
Ive got a Volant CAI and a cat back exhaust but still on 87 octane
I had a 6.2 super duty 2019..... loved that motor. No complaints. Ever!
Buddy of mine works at a Ford dealership and has his own shop at home, ive seen quite a few spring issues and range from getting lucky on start up and head a tick then shut it down to them driving it towards the dealer dropping the valve and ventilating the block. Its surely been enough problems for Ford to step up and cover their problems instead of just leaving it and passing their faults on to the consumer. Sadly thats what all automakers are doing now, people will argue and put their brand on a pedestal but all brands are guilty of hiding their faults……btw im Ford camp all the way and have a 6.8 3V for my 79 F150 and a 6.2 for my Falcon wagon both will see boost.
Got a 6.2 in a 2012 F250. Has the LOUDEST intake roar I have ever heard in a stock vehicle when you floor it. Biggest issue we have had at 160k miles is coil packs. I think we have had at least 3 go bad on it
I worked for O’Reilly autoparts for 9 years and we used to keep 8 triton engine coil packs on the shelf. Good to see nothing has changed. lol!
Haha if your coils last more than 150k they are going to disintegrate when you pull them out anyway so it’s insane to expect them to last 160+
@MCMinerHQ not always lol. My jeep liberty has 300000kms on it and the coil packs still come out fine and no damage
@@jonathoncatterson8901your jeep liberty isn’t seeing the voltage those of a 6.2 are. They’re firing 2 spark plugs, not 1.
Driving a 2017 f350 6.2 as a mechnic truck. Loaded down with tools/parts weighing over 10,000lbs. She likes her fuel for sure but 350,000km and 6200 engine hours. Try not to idle it much. In my opinion is a sufficient powerplant for the combination
I have one loaded down with plumbing gear it’s a 2021 bought it from a mobile mechanic it’s a nice truck your comment makes me comfortable with my purchase, she is definitely a thirsty girl but it sounds nice and is plenty powerful
I work on guys 6.2 raptor and it has a roush supercharger since almost new has almost 200,000 now runs flawlessly I thought that a pretty good motor to take boost that long with no problems
I will say they are a very underrated performance engine and handle boost very well. Just no aftermarket support only downside.
Need a bit more time for companies to catch up
@richbosch9564 Will the aftermarket take on the boss? It only came in the first gen raptor and the super duty, and it's now out of production.
Ford is complete garbage
I know, right? I love the 6.2L, but I believe that since they stopped putting them in the F150’s and never put them in the Mustang, that killed any demand for aftermarket goodies. Gobs of untapped potential.
It doesn’t help how big they are. I swapped in a 6.2 in my crown Vic and had to remove the wiper motors to get to fit. But I’m hoping we can get some cam options. Mine made 990 with twin turbos completely stock long block.
Shortly after getting a 2020 f250 with 80k miles on it I asked a very good mechanic out in Oklahoma where he cares for dozens of farm truck with the 6.2L . He said there are lots of them with between 230,000 & over 300,000 miles worked hard and going strong,he does have one parked behind the shop waiting for a new motor.
Good engine, started in 250/350 in 2011. Put almost 200k km on mine, sold it, still going at 300k with current owner. Not a powerhouse, but reliable
I drive a 22 f250 crew cab with a service bed loaded with tools and oil and pull a trailer frequently. 40,000 miles and 320 idle hours, so far it seems like a good running work horse.
6.2 ford is found in bigger bandit wood chippers too and they take some abuse when running anything above an 8 inch log. Lots of rpm and load on them in that application.
I have an 18xp with a psi 350, It blew up twice so I finally upgraded to a gm crate 350 vortec and its a lot better now. I've wondered how the fords work as a replacement
@@Blue_Flame_Raptor They are in speedboats too,. indmar raptor!
Love these types of videos man!
Thanks!
Indeed!
Absolutely love mine in my 2012 F250 it has been very reliable. I regularly pull a 32 foot fifth wheel camper with it which it handles quite well. Short distance driving it doesn't get great fuel mileage but it does great for what it is on longer highway trips for economy.
I have one in a maxtow F150. I tried the full load advertised the power is there but still a 1/2 ton.
Second on short range mpg it's tough on any engine on a big truck
Im a general superintendent for a bridge company in VA, all of our pick up trucks are 6.2s and they all have 200k plus and still going strong, and our guys abuse the hell out of them.
My 2011 F150 has a 6.2. Currently at 258,000 miles. Running strong still. Basic maintenance. Only issue is an exhaust stud broke so have a little leak at startup.
Also have an 11 F150 6.2L maxtow platinum. only 190k. Runs like new. Last owner put a great exhaust on it!
Excellent video, I have a Job 1 2011 F250 Lariat FX4 Crew Cab that was built May 2010 (has the cool magnesium valve covers). Bought it in 2012 with 92,000 Km on it. It now has 175,000KM and is probably the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I only use it now to pull our 35ft TT but it has pulled that trailer weighing 9k all over the US through the Smokies with 4 adults in the truck. When I tow long distance I use 91 octane in it and the longer I tow the more power it seems to have as it adapts to the fuel. I change the oil every 8000 Km or less with full synthetic and the oil always comes out looking close to what it looked like when I put it in. The only thing that has ever been replaced on the truck was the PS pump as it developed an internal leak. I replaced the front brake pads once and have done all the fluids and plugs. It is my forever truck as I have not found anything that make me think humm wish I had that. Last fall I drove from Moose Jaw to Calgary at around 115kph and averaged 14l/100 Km (20 mpg imperial) 0n Duratracks That was hand calculated.
and yes the longer it runs the more power it has towing
I have a 2012 f350 6.2 work truck has just over 250,000 miles only done spark plugs and oils changes / basic maintenance truck pulls a 9 ton trailer she not fast or powerful but dame reliable by far the best truck I have ever bought for work. Ps the she drinks fule lol
I love my 6.2. I do agree that the valve spring issue is a problem and should have actually been dealt with and fixed by Ford. It was a known problem well before they ended production of the 6.2.
We've got a bunch of the 6.2s at work. Most have 2-300k on them and have had very few problems. They run pretty decent too.
I maintain a fleet of FedEx trucks and we have a number of E 450's with 6.2L and I have had good luck with them I've fixed a bent valve on on it was caused by a intake leak it had 250k miles just fixed the valve and put new timing chains and it runs awesome again
Someone else probably already mentioned this, but the 6.2 went into the super duties 2011 and up as the base engine up until the 6.8 mini Zilla. Wasn’t used in the medium duty rigs…those were still powered by the v10 until 2020 when they went to the 7.3.
I was just talking to Scott on Wednesday. He does great work, I just broke the cam in on a 350 he rebuilt for me, so far, no issues!
I definitely wouldn't consider the Ford 6.2 as a competitor to the GM 6.2 or 6.2 Hemi...those are both more performance oriented engines. They don't use them in work duty applications. The GM 6.2 is a car/light duty performance engine option. The 6.2 Hemi is for sports cars. The Ford 6.2 is mainly a super duty engine, along with the F150 for a few years*heavy tow package I believe) and the Raptor.
I was going to say, gm could of put the 6.2 in the 2500 and up instead of staying with the 6.0 (which is what the 6.2 was compeeting with.) But them not shows it must not hold up to those environments.
Ford is complete garbage
The 6.0 is an iron blocked pig designed to last forever, the 6.2 is a high compression engine that needs premium fuel. Obviously they could detune it but it's just not a work horse. @@tangydiesel1886
6.4 hemi and 6.2 gm are also offered in trucks
@@tangydiesel1886GM came out with a new 6.6 liter gas engine to replace the old 6.0 around 2020 or 2021
We have 12 6.2 f250/350s with 200k-310k miles in our fleet. No major issues. 4 of the Chevy 6.0s failed around 200k and the other 4 have been great.
Can't by that kid , maybe the 5.3
Did the chevys that failed have the original oil pump? As preventative maintenance replace the oil pump before 200k. That seems to be the failure point for those motors.
What are your thoughts on the 6R100 ??? How is it compared to the 4R100 that was used before like in the powerstroke? I know the 6R140 is a lot “beefier” but is it worth buying a 13-16 vs a 20-22 with a 6.2 ?? I was looking at 21-22 but still considering a 13-16 as well… I’m 6’5” and like reg cab trucks and the new style has more leg room… but a solid reliable 3/4 ton is #1 I don’t daily heavy haul/tow but when I do I don’t want a 1/2 ton that’s “maxed” out…. As always thank you for all the great videos and wealth of knowledge you provide!!!
i have a f-250 with 160k miles on it. i do 5k oil changes and it is working perfectly. i am starting to hear the 'manifold tic' - but no lights.
i was going to trade it in at 150k when i ran into a guy driving through Santa rosa,nm that had 1 million miles written on his f-250 truck - it was the original 6.2l - he had it apart twice for maintenance and new timing chains. i decided to keep this one forever -
thanks for the video , really shows in detail this well engineered engine.
My Harley truck has one of these. Can't wait to watch this whole video.
Its a good motor overall and like any other motor that's out there.. Maintenance and taking care of will make it last along time !
We have a 2012 F250 and have about 200K and its been a very good truck and engine. I can say the 6.2 is hands down way better than the dog 5.4 triton. It was bought used with about 100K (was used to pull trailers and the guy took good care of it), the last 100K has been used basically as a farm truck. All the rattling, bouncing, dusty and muddy conditions that comes with that, it has held up well with no oil leaks that I can tell. Its had regular oil changes and so far its only needed replace two of the eight original coil packs in the last 5K and as far as I know it doesn't consume any oil.
I wanted to see a 6.2 cracked open. I don't like the 16 plug set up. I do like that it has 4 bolt mains with over head cams vs push rods. I own a F-250 with the 6.2 engine, auto trans 6 speed. It's hauled the heavy over and over and been very reliable. 134659 miles, serviced between 5 and 7 k intervals. I run 5/30 Valvoline simi synthetic in it, not 5/20. It's just my choice. I have cracked open many engines running Valvoline that are gas and Rotella 15/40 in diesel engines. To me they seem cleaner inside. No black sludge build up and the oil doesn't stain your hands when you wash your hands off. lol. Good share. Thank you.
You could also special order them in the f-150 Lariat and Platinum. Fairly rare, but awesome trucks.
True. I had a 2011 Limited Lariat F-150 with the 6.2 motor and never had any problems with it. There were no call out badges on the truck indicating that it had the 6.2 so it was kind of a sleeper.
@@danbourg76 Yes I have an 11 6.2L Maxtow Platnium F150. The LL can't tow much. Mine is rated to 11.1K lbs. No 6.2L badge. Has 200K, runs great, but he valve spring is making me nervous!
The 2011 Lariat Limited F-150 only came with the 6.2, you could choose between RWD or AWD but that's it. They only came in pearl white too.
@@ThatGuyJo
I have same truck 173, miles very nice torque for towing and we do allot of that, no oil burn!
Great video. I really enjoy the "Everything Wrong with..." series. It looks like you've done the Hemi and two Fords at this point that I could find.
If they are always doing GM engines in the shop, how about a 6.0 Vortec from a 2500 Series?
I have a buddy that bought one of the early Harley Davidson 6.2s and he’s got a pile of miles on it now and she’s still going strong. The valve springs are a big issue but you can hardly blame that on ford, that’s a vendor issue and someone there wasn’t doing quality control. The ecoboosts have had valves snap for no reason other than it seems they weren’t heat treated properly and got too brittle, on nearly new vehicles too. It seems nothing is made very well anymore.
In theory they’re made the same but quality control has gone down due to it being high demand rush job, everyone wants parts quick but with that being done things get missed. It happens
Ford just spent a billion on quality this year. It is absolutely a Ford problem. Other makes also use valve springs. If you don't meet their demand, they'll just another vendor.
@@BloodcurlingBingo.
The problem is there are only a couple vendors left. So one basically can complain, but you just can't change vendors, there are so few left. Every engine has these problems, however Toyota still manufacturers some of their parts. We have had a garage full of "dead" hemi engines. Ricardo engineering did the design of the hemi engine, but they seem too have lots of vendor related problems. Fiat just gave up, trying to fix problems, many vendor related.
I have a 2001 Chevy Z71 4x4 with a 5.3 Vortec it's still runs as good as the day I bought it and it has 225k miles on it. Just doing normal maintenance and I run Rotella T6 in it.
We don't care
I’ve had multiple of these trucks and put over 600k combined on them with out any issues at all. Hands down one of the the most reliable engines I’ve had experience with
Hey Rich is there an engine in a vehicle which you would call BULLITT proof ,here in Australia in the 70, 80,s our Ford V8,s Holden GM Australia V8,s and Chrysler engines were low Tech but ever so reliable seems today's engines are stretched to their limits ,what's your pick of the best vehicle you,'ve owned.Thanks love your channel ,all the people you deal with very funny and knowledgeable.
Cheers Kym
Adelaide
I have been very pleased with my '17 F250 with 6.2L. I tow 11k toyhauler with it and I believe it's an incredibly underestimated engine. I have owned the other major HD gas engines as well, 6.2L has outperformed. I do wish mine had the 10 speed and 4.30 gears though, driven quite a few w/ 10 speed and it does tow better.
*Drove a 6.2 F-250 from new in 2017 until 2021*
Truck had the service bed for HVAC tools but still had great power and sounded great! 👍👍👍
ABOUT TIME we see something on a 6.2 . Nothing at all on them.
Been wantimg to swap out a 4.6 2 vavle out of a mustang for a 6.2 . I already know you can block out one set of plugs and use the 4.6/5.4 computer. Add cams and boost and easy 600hp . Add rods and pistons 800 easy .
Why the hell would you block out one of the sets of plugs?
@@Brennan.larson in some race classes. You aren't allowed to have 2 sets.
Also. Mamy have used the 4.6 and 5.4 pc to run the 6.2 in those year mustangs
I would cap out 1 set of plugs personally.
@@Spad68 yeah, you don’t have to block out any plugs. It only has 8 ignition coils. Believe me, I know people are swapping them for mod motors, I’m currently doing it.
@@Brennan.larsonyup . I know of 4 guy that shaped out there 4.6 to tye 6.2 and used the stock 4.6 harness. Run awesome.
I have a 2019 Ford F250 with a 6.2 course I only have 44,000 miles on it. I did do a tune and modified the air intake and went with full dual exhaust cause I pull a travel trailer so far I’m happy.
I used to work on Moomba, Tige, and other boats with these 6.2s, other than being crammed in too small of a space these engines are great. 16 spark plugs lol
We have several at work. Our "spare" truck is a 2015 F250 service body truck with nearly 400k miles on it... and that is 400k miles nearly all in the DC metro area with 1,500# of ironworking tools in the bed 24/7.
Bought a 6.0 LQ4 with a “fueling issue” for a steal, bearings weren’t loose, oil looked good, so I brought it home. Pulled everything off except for the heads to re seal it and found a broken exhaust spring. Changed out all the springs when I put a cam in it, took an indicator down the exhaust port to the sealing angle on the valve, it only had maybe .0002-.0003” of runout and it’s been running for 6 months now in a project.
We have lots of these engines in our work trucks and they really do last a long time. our maintenance probably changes oil in these once every year if they are lucky. Mine currently has 176k miles on it. We have a 2011 that has 130k and it has an occasional misfire but it otherwise runs great!
200,000mi on mine. Several cracked manifolds. Did plugs, belt and fluids at 100,000mi.
Still on original suspension components, ball joints, and axles. The six speed transmission works great and I love the manual mode.
Truck is still running great.
Thanks for that!
I think for tue next engine review, you should do a 2uzfe. I have one, and it's been amazing. 220,000 miles on it with no problems. I've heard of them doing a lot more than that as well.
Yeah, heard claims as high as 500k. Not very powerful, not really any engine upgrades aside from exhaust or internal changes for forced induction. Non vvti is supposedly non interference. Interesting to know since I just snapped a timing belt on mine.
Love the 4.7
@@Digital_DairyI have an 03 non vvti with 210k miles. The last 35k I’ve put on it are HARD miles. My gf has an 05 with the vvti. Idk about not much power because it runs damn good. I ran dead even with a 2021 ecoboost ford explorer and it has 247k miles. The explorer has 11k. It’s my brothers gfs. And my brother just went and bought an 05 as well because he seen the abuse mines taken and he used to have an 02 tundra with 271k miles but the rest of the truck was shot. I’ve never ran out of power ever. My gf’s 05 actually outran a hemi charger as well. 2010ish model.
My 2019 F250 at 119k miles got some bad gas, three injectors failed and hurt the pistons. Got a long block from Jasper, has 40k on it so far, and it actually runs better than the original eng, more power and a little better fuel economy.
I'd hope so. The Coyote is a Mustang engine that works fine for light/medium towing duties in the F-150, the 6.2L was always designed with the intent of being a HD truck engine.
Had a bunch of these engines, only drive these because they’re E85 for my air conditioning company my newest one from 2022 only has 10,000 miles and it ticks (quiet)like crazy been to the dealer a dozen times they say it’s normal operation 🤦♂️
Fords 6.2 is direct competition with the GM 6.0, and dodges 6.4. Not the more perfomance based 6.2 LS and 6.2 mopar. Great content
Lol the GM 6.0L was never competitive with the 6.2L Ford or even the 6.4L Hemi. GM's brand new 6.6L gas V8 barely compares to Fords 13 year old 6.2L.
No oil squirters is actually a dumb idea. Just replace the oil pump with one that flows more oil and stick a bigger oil pan on. All modern Diesel turbocharged engines use oil squirters to cool the bottom of the pistons and are required to manage the amount of extra fuel they use in the engines to perform active regen going down the road. Cummins in particular, as they've done away with the Exhaust injector and use the fuel map to make the exhaust hot enough to heat up the DOC. The same applies to higher cylinder temperatures from running leaner under above atmospheric in gasoline engines.
RPM range between diesel and OHC gasoline is very different
Can you really compare a turbocharged diesel to a modern, low friction naturally aspirated gasoline engine ? They are different animals...
17 F250 6.2L 43K miles. Earlier this year at 41K I started to get a Cyl 8 misfire on startup CEL. Over $1000 later for 16 plugs, 8 wires & 8 coils and 6 hours of cursing in my driveway. My topside plugs were all corroded, 2 were even broken, and the plug springs were all corroded. My theory is the dealership detailing the engine bay pressure washing the engine jams water right under the boot and down in the spark plug hole, filling it with water and causing corrosion. Ive been happy with the engine aside from this. Came out of a 03 6.0 PSD fully bulletproofed and tuned, which I miss. I know, who says they miss their 6.0. I had a lot of blood sweat and tears in that one. This truck has been nothing but nonsense with all the stupid nitpicky recall BS.
the 6.2 was in 2011 ford trucks .I had a broken spring ,easy fix .the spark plugs are easy to reach on the out side location.the water pumps are easy to replace for a modern engine
and the alternator is an easy fix
Before air or battery impacts there were "speed wrenchs" looked like long extension with a "D " in middle.
Yess! Scott, easily my favorite machinist. He really knows his stuff, and now when he and Rich know a lot better, the banter has gotten sooo good! 😂😂 I could listen to these info bombs all day. 👍
Cool video.
Our shop truck (mobile maintenance) is a 2020 F-350 6.2, makes me a little concerned but it has under 10k so🤞
To add to the advantages of a larger bore to be able to put larger valves in, of course on a stock port there is a limit to the advantages.
Surprising that a stock engine, esp in a work truck that's been thoroughly maintained would be breaking valve springs though. That is worrisome
2011 raptor with 6.2 143,000 miles 2nd owner change oil every 6 months no major mechanical issues thus far but has check engine light
I'd say it's in direct competition with the 6.4 hemi. Not the supercharged 6.2
Loving this video. Question: I'm clear on piston circumference to wrist pin, my question is- does the larger compression area impact mileage noticeably
What’s really a let down is FOD doesn’t stand behind what they sell
I bought a used 2011 F350 with the 6.2 and it’s used oil since day one. It had 89k when I bought it and unfortunately last year at 176K it lost oil pressure , before that it’s had 2 crank sensors an oil cooler and water pump. Love the truck but this engine has been a nightmare- my 99 v10 had 334k before any issues. Hoping I can rebuild it this spring but won’t know till I get it tore down as to actual damage, never locked up but if you rev it the oil pressure falls completely off gauge.
My only beef with the 6.2 Ford was it became unavailable in the half ton truck when Ford introduced the 3.5 turbo back around 2011. Ford's senior management is the worst of the Big 3
Actually, the 6.2L was available from 2011-2014 in the F150’s right along side the 3.5 EcoBoost and the Coyote. They were no longer available in the F150 starting in 2015 when they went to the aluminum body. Total bummer.
I believe that’s a big reason for the lack of aftermarket support.
@@anthonysgarage Sorry, you're mistaken. It was only available as a F250 or a Raptor after 2011.
@@jimparker7778 I am not mistaken. The 6.2L was an option in the 2011-2014 F150. Typically a Lariat or Platinum. I’m not going to argue with random guy on the internet, but you’re free to believe whatever you’d like.
@@anthonysgarage Nobody's arguing. You're just wrong and you think people are arguing.
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97 K1500 with 350TBI. Just hit 468,000 miles. Dad and grandpa did all the oil changes up to a few years ago, than I took over. Plugs and filters. And a new cap and rotor. Believe that is all that’s been replaced.
I know my 2020 f350 lost its 6.2L engine under 4300 miles. Checked the oil, when it started making terrible noises, and it looked like glitter on the dipstick….thats usually not a good thing. Sat at the dealership for 7 months since the warranty engine was “back ordered” from Ford allegedly. If the engine was back ordered for that long, I suspect they’ve had some major issues-and are trying to avoid a mass recall. I’ve seen (and used) a bunch of 6.2’s that go huge miles in work trucks with no problems, mine was not one of them.
I’ve got a 2017 F250 with 146k miles it’s been about 15-20k but noticed a noise at idle, thought maybe it was crank shaft bearing of some sort. Using a stethescope, only place I can hear it amplified is on the oil filter. It’s a rotational sound, not consistent always at idle. But sounds like a chuke chuke chuke. Engine had no issues and Blackstone labs don’t show any issues in oil analysis. Any ideas? Harmonic balancer? Oil pump? I’m stumped….
Yup, oil change oil change oil change, beat on it if its not yours or your daily driver, slow and steady
The 2011-2016 6.2 is an absolute dog. The 2017-2022 6.2 is a whole different animal. My 2017 only has 45k on it so far, but so far, so good. It has way more pulling power than my 5.0 Coyote. Such a good motor!
Just worked on a 6.2 today at work, those spark plugs suck if you’re trying to replace in truck, if you’re not worried about torque spec then it makes it way easier……
Lol hour and half job max ? The 5.4 with the fuel rail in the way is definitely more difficult
My truck dropped valve on #3 cylinder on passenger side and made nuggets of piston, broke piston and wrist pin in to pan broke rod and destroyed block. All over a broken valve spring while pulling trailer going up hill at 65mph. No warning it just detonated like a grenade. $7K for engine here in US.
The Red solo cup bolt holders such a brilliant idea. Ty scott for that
Ram owner here hit or miss with lifter cam failures they all tick. Only heard good things about f250 with 6.2s
Thoughts on the following: My 2019 6.2 has 272k miles (oil field) and if I was in a position to have to replace it... worth the work to move to 7.3 Godzilla with 10 speed? Compare with buying a whole new truck. I'm guessing not, but the idea seems fun.
Would likely just buy a HIGH mileage 7.3 ready to roll.
I do know that on high horsepower 2jz builds they delete the squirters too because of what Scott said. Think they are there for low maintenance and reliability. Do one on the 3.5 eco boost!
I have one in my F-250 it’s been a dream of a vehicle to own but I’m get close to 160k miles now and I appreciate the insight on the potential defect. I previously owned a f-150 with a 5.4 that broke a valve spring among other issues I had with it😢😢😢
I have a 2011 f250 with the 6.2, bought it when i was 18, had 200k on it when i bought it, ran like it was new, had an oil leak into coolant via a bad oil cooler, mekanik told me it was common and i got a new coolant system, ran it for 2 years and it needed new timing chain guides, now by this point it had skipped timing teeth, it was playing a knock knock joke on the piston tops, didn't have the money for a mechanic to do it, didn't have engine swap money, did it myself, learned wrenching isn't for me, ran like a very oily top for 2 years and i decided to get the engine changed, after a very long wait i finally have my new engine in and it already has 2k miles on it, no complaints.
I put my old engine through hell, it pulled things it shouldn't have, at speeds it shouldn't have, up hills it shouldn't have, i have since grown a spine and learned how to tell my dad a trailer isn't going on my truck.
The 6.2 never left me stranded and i am very happy with it, gas milage is killer though.
It's not a competitor with the 6.2 supercharged HEMI it's a competitor with a 6.4/392 HEMI.
6.2 is good. I didn’t hate mine. It needed cats tho bc it was a high hour truck as a former service truck. It only had 100k on the ODO tho. It would start with no block heater at -40f.
I was sold on the 6.2 when my previous boss bought a 2013 F350 with 6.2 power, a few years later I sold my F-350 with a 6.0 bought a 2016 F-350 with a 6.2 last year couldn't be anymore happy. Truck is reliable I'm not worried its going to cost me an arm and leg, it likes the gas but its far cheaper maintenance. Truck has 84,000kms it does what I need it to do. I feel the stock exhaust on the Superduty trucks is restrictive it feels like its holding back the 6.2 I may change out the exhaust in the spring. Changing out the spark plugs wasn't a fun job its done truck gets a bit better fuel mileage. I've also learned the 6.2s run a lot better on 91-93 octane our here in British Columbia regular gas is watered down sh*t. I'll never own a diesel pickup ever again not worth the headaches.
I have a 6.0 and my 15 6.2 I definitely enjoy both trucks but I will definitely say I don't sweat the 6.2 to much
Interesting , Thank You . Happy Fixing
Have a 2011 F150 Limited trim, absolute beast in the f150…..the super duties are detuned a bit from the f150/Raptor.
I’ve got 224,000 miles on it with normal maintenance it has never let me down. It is now my second truck so I plan on pulling the engine and going through it then adding some boost in the near future!
Have an 11 f150 platinum, 200k. Runs perfect. Just got new plugs, tb, maf clean. Idles like a brand new truck.
they wanted it re built like it came from ford…. “ so were re using all the old parts and putting them back in right “
had me dying 😂😂😂👌🏽
I have a 2014. 156,xxx runs excellent but I did have to replace the manifolds recently which was quite difficult. Otherwise solid unit
I had a 2011 and that thing was awesome, put 108k on it and it was never in the shop 1 time.
What do you recommend for preventative maintenance on the valve springs? Should you just replace them after awhile?
I have a 2019 Ford F250 6.2 would it be good to put better spark plugs on this thing I did go with dual exhaust and modified the air intake
How did it like the changes?
6.2 with the 6 speed torqshift is a god tier combo. shame that the 7.3 doesnt live up to the hype in the longevity catagory
Put a set of lifters in in and it will. Stock bottom ends have made 1500 Hp. So if they can take that, it’ll last forever at 450
Which gen is considered the best? The 150 with the 6.2/6r80. 2011-16 6r140 or the 17+ alumiduties? Its interesting the 11-14 f150 came with the most power and the lightest transmission which should have been the least power loss to the wheels its to bad the lighter aluminum 150s never got to see this motor.
Couldn’t find a used 6.2 in Canada? Damn I suppose I should start listing a couple lol
You got some?
Can you show the rebuilds? Love the videos!
I don't think Scott wants to deal with that nor has the time to do all the camera stuff. Guess he's been really busy w\ all the work he's getting (being on DG def helped!) nowadays! If you remember, he hated the camera at first w\ Rich/DG. 🤔🤷🏻♂️👍👌🛠️🔧🔩🧰😎🍻