400kW charging at home 🤯
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Hell yeah. If a project scares you, it's a good project.
I would compare the total cost with the cost of petrol. And all the extra stuff certainly has a life expectancy.... Gone are the days when things were built to last. Good luck!
Depends on why it scares you. Does it scare you because you're about to do things which are potentially dangerous to you or property? Or does it scare you because of the complexity?
Questions, do you have sufficient level of knowledge and expertise to carry the work out safely? Often the inadequate level of expertise of the individual creates the danger.
great epitaph
Absolutely amazing and very scary at the same time. If you are able to pull this one off, you will be the king of EV chargers in the whole world!
Local Dala utility. Dala industrial Park. Soon followed by Dala solar field. Dala wind farms. Dala Nuclear power, Dala oil... Dala refinery... Dala plastics... Dala food stuff's.. Dalazon... Dalaoolge.... Started a darker turn towards the end sure it won't go that far.
LFP battery cells are dropping in price. You can get 280Ah 3.2V cells for
Aim for the stars, get to the moon. You're amazing Dala I live watching your videos
First out of spec channel gets his DC charger a month ago and now you. Interesing. Must be some kind of youtuber marketing campaign by DC charger manufacturers. I am all for it!
Holy macaroni! This plan is NUTS!😲 I LOVE IT! 😍
Getter done! I have all the confidence in the world in you. Keep us updated. Thanks and goodluck.
Looks like you need another transformer connected to the high voltage. I guess the overhead wires would easily take an extra 20Amps or so. Assume it's around 11kV. Take care. Working at those levels, arc flash can literally take your face off. Plus I hope your batteries don't turn into a firework display making hydroflouric acid fumes.
Great scott! Your projects keep getting bigger and bigger Wow this is going to be interesting👍
Wow! Dala you really have got a project on your hands there. Can't wait to see your progress. You can do it!!! 😉⚡️💯
You're crazy, I love your thinking! In the back of my mind I keep thinking about community solar that feeds into a community battery bank. The battery supplies the houses/business at peak times and is charged using solar/cheap grid periods.
V2G would be the cheapest battery bank in this scenario but your reclaimed leaf packs would be awesome too, especially for businesses that used more power
This has to be the future, not necessarily as a zero-sum solution but for an uncountable number of small communities with access to a means of supplementing grid power with locally produced sources. A forward-looking government would have an agency to help with expertise and financing.
Great project. I love it. Please keep doing such scary things. I am sure you will successfully finish it.
I will support you in this. Long time viewer. Patreon first time. I am trying to push the EV market in the Caribbean myself.
👏❤️
Visions of an old black and white movie with Dr Frankenstein summoning dramatic lightning... but this time with Dala as Dr frankenstein and a car as the monster... "Its alive! Its alive!!!!" Godspeed, you madman!
Completely crazy, I love it!
Wow. Absolutely massive project. Certainly looking forward to your videos with this.
I was expecting that Kempower unit to have at least some battery storage inside it when it's that big. I seems that you basically want 200 kWh worth of batteries and connect those to the Kempower unit + inverter to feed your house and you have 400 kW quick charging combined with off-grid ability in case the power is lost. (Assuming you can discharge your battery storage at 2C safely.
Very cool. This approach of installing battery capacity to buffer instantaneous demand from the grid is going to become critical for both rural and dense urban locations. Freewire on steroids. Good luck to you!
If it does not kill you it makes you stronger!
Very interesting project!
This is more along the lines of “burn your house down and get your dog pregnant”
Dala, you are entering scary territory, especially without training. Hope you have good life insurance!
Madman! :D can’t wait to see how it all goes
A battery powered buffer between the grid and the charger to emulate a electrical network which could easily offer the charger whatever it needs (for as long as the buffer batteries lasts)?
Amazing. Hope you can use the satellite's near the road as public charging station 🙂
Slow charghe at winter and fast in summer.
Wild project! Looking forward to the results 🎉
Dallas a genius, it not a question of if he does it, but when and how?
Keep up the good work!
Yes ! Sir, Good Tech. Be Here With You ! Have Same Problem MORE POWER Love IT My System 18kw Of XW 17 years
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Now this one I'd have to come out and look at my self:) There is a company in Norway that "sups up" charge stations with weaker grid connections with a lower connectivity rate, as in your case. The name escaped me, but they also use kempower chargers for their installations. This is in effect a peak balancing solution 👌
Pixii powered chargers! This will be a budget version 😂
you're scared? hell, i'm scared and i'm just watching!!
The scary part is to have half megawatt of battery power and the associated inverter to feed your charger.
Wow Dala, this is an epic project!!!
I'm stoked to be able to follow along. Truly loving your idea to stack the EV batteries with a smaller grid connection. I feel like this is the only way in the future of grid power evolving to adapt to the ever growing KW charging. Similar even to Tesla Megawatt chargers connected to Mega pack storage. Albeit at a smaller scale, but still bravo to you Sir!!!
Finally a practical solution for everyone who wants a home charger fmg
Can do!!! No problem for Dala. Seriously...if anyone can succeed in this, it will be you!
This is insane and I love it. Good luck!
Oh yes - this is gonna be excellent! Keenly awaiting to the next video!
Hi Dala, as a fellow Österbottning I´m really proud of you. You always explore new "territories", even if it scary some times. But it is super interesting. Good Luck.
Tack 😅 Lär behöva det!
@@DalasEVRepairDu får snart ordna guidade turer, mot betalning, lite grann, i alla fall. Man måste ju betala för att titta på gamla bilar på museer också.
@@leiflillandt1488 Hah 😅
🤯 I can not WAIT!!!!!!! 💪
We have 3*40A 400V.
It does less than 30kW.
Charging electric cars is pure madness.
A 30kw charger will fully charge most EVs in 2 hours. I'm curious to know why you need to charge it this quickly at home? Unless they drive nearly 200kms each and every day, most people get by with a 2kw charger at home 👍
@@vasil7410 we drive a lot, also pulling horse trailers and providing energy 'free of charge' to our customers.
Most importamt.. our 27kWp solar array produced less than 6kWh today.
So any more charging current came from hard coal and natural gas.
That chain is worse than burning gas at home for heat, or burning coal/gas at the baseload plant to charge cars.
You are crazy dude :) This is awesome.
Nominally 400kwh @ 230V service level is 1,740A. With rounding the fed should be sized for input wire capable of 2kA. That's a LOT of copper.
Here in the States, Tesla supercharger stations usually request a 4000A 480V service, about 4X what you've got there and support 8 or more of the highest throughput satellites for individual Tesla cars at one time.
Just a guess. But charge at 40kw (max contiuous) a bunch of repourposed used UV batteries, in parallel. So they can in parallel via an inverter per pack, power this charger so the neighbours can fast charge?
That grid connection can be really expensive. In city uprgading electric switchboard and new mains cabe can be tens of thousands of euros (50 000 € ? / reference from apartment house buildings few years back, but you might save on labor here). And electric company is also happy to charge for new/upgraded transformer and possible new/upgraded grid power line (it can be dastardly). Plus upgrading the subscribtion (which alone can be in tune of 10 000 € in these amperages depending on the company; this might contain the dastardly part).
Yeah let's see, still waiting on the grid operator for final cost :D
I'm scared just looking at that monster! Hope you will finish installing with flying colors!
🎉 you are doing fantastic if you project work good you can come over to Australia and show how to do it all over Australia the power grid here is 💩 we need people like you 🙏
Brilliant work. Next year I am gonna get hold of an EV pack and get your inverter trickery running.
If you are storing energy in batteries, can you arrange the batteries to be the right voltage to directly connect to the DC buss in the Kempower charger? That would save on the cost and losses of converting to AC with inverters, and then converting back to DC in the charger.
Dis gonn' be guud! *popcorn*
I will definitely follow this!
This is awesome. Don't die.
Can’t wait to see / hear of your progress.
Dala has touched the monolith!
I thougt you might have already worked for CPOs occasionally, analysing their charging stuff as well as protocols, when things go wrong. So, even more interesting than a brand-new Kempower DC fast charge unit - and way more affordable - would be a broken one (let's say after some failed software update or with intermittent faults that trigger safety measures), that no one else wants to diagnose and fix. Keep up the good work, Dala, I like your work a lot on bringing broken stuff back to life. I cannot warm up to your Nissan Leaf tuning efforts, however.
Amazing project...curious with the next vedio❤
You are a wild man! Can't wait to see if it works lol.
Im here for it. I believe in you!
🧘🧘♀️🧘♂️🧘♀️🧘
In Australia, where we have very remote locations one of our motoring associations is already experimenting with “Off Grid” DC chargers and have installed the first one in outback central Australia a few hundred kilometres south of Alice Springs at Erldunda Roadhouse although it’s not yet on PlugShare. I understand that it runs off a battery system with diesel backup. Your system would be similar without the diesel backup. Good luck with your project.
and it set on fire , plus you are all forgetting one big problem , all this battery theory is just that , theory , there isn't enough lithium on the planet for all these batteries and they will be proven to be a pointless experiment at your cost
charging EV's with diesel generators, that's awesome! 🤔
Hey, maybe theres a way to run cars directly with diesel engines and save the weight of the battery...
@@trailsandbeers The batteries are mainly charged from 60 solar panels on the cover above the chargers. The diesel is backup for when the demand for charging is more than the supply from solar.
@@andywarrington4738 Actually, studies have shown that we will have enough minerals to complete the energy transition, but I’m not going to get into my study versus your study as no one knows for sure yet. What we do know is that the lithium and all the other minerals can be recycled at the end of life of a battery. Show me how to recycle diesel after you have burnt it in your internal combustion engine and we can talk.
@@andywarrington4738There is no lack of sodium, iron and carbon on the earth! There is by the way no lack of lithium either.
I love this project!
Not going to join the people asking why - this is crazy and I’m absolutely here for it!
The question is why not!
Difficult but eminently achievable. I’m confident your the right guy for it.
Madness! Awesome! Commenting to increase reach.
If those overhead powerlines are 11kV, that's only 36A. :)
Not sure what's happening but in the UK you have no chance adding your own supplied equipment to the distribution network.
Where I live you are REQUIRED to supply the equipment: but then the utility owns it (if it is before the meter anyway).
Do you live close to road 8 or 12 and are gonna offer charging for customers, or what is the plan? 🤔
Let's see, E8 yeah!
@@DalasEVRepairNice! I have to come and charge next time I'm in Finland visiting my relatives north of Pori. 🙂
i don't get the purpose of it , open it to public and make some money , or to charge multiple veichles extreamly fast , just for the sake of it ?
Yes 😂
@@DalasEVRepair ah , now i get it ,😂
Is the goal to open the charger up to the public?
If it all goes well 😂
Wow! Can you elaborate a bit more on WHY you are doing it?
Out of the box it does not appear to make sense! 😊
We do what we must, because we can 😂
@@DalasEVRepair Very true. You get told something is not possible/impossible and do it anyway because it needs doing.
I'm under impression that he works at Kempower, so this might not be so crazy after all
Very interested in how you tie pv inverters to batteries. Well, I probably know how you do it, we do the same with battery inverters (Victron Multiplus with a Fronius or similar on the output) so I imagine it is quite similar.
Love to see more videos about the car batteries for home storage
Working on the code almost daily! We have an amazing community around EV homebatteries 👏
Take it on in small chunks. I have done projects like that, get coffee often.
dalathegreat.. oh!
En kestä, nä sun projektit ovat niin kiinnostavia! Toivotaan ettei ollu hutiostos!
EVs,don’t you just love em.
This is great! And... I want more details on how you got to this decision!?
Thanks Paul, out of curiosity mostly 😅
The battery cooling project in Leaf is first class 👍
Dala, that thing is massive! And the height of it, huge. How can you bring that home?
Well I have a towbar on my LEAF 😏
@@DalasEVRepair 😅
@@DalasEVRepair You know Leafs only need like 50kW, right?
@@jamesphillips2285 62kWh pack takes 75kw ;)
This... is bonkers !
Subscribed 😅
get like few old Leaf packs to supply the charger. Then just slow charge the leaf packs?
Yes, but Tesla packs are better price/kWh!
And it sounds cooler :-) @@DalasEVRepair
We are all excited and in my sunny country I am thinking solar... 400kW from solar... 😮
You'd need 1000 panels if no battery storage is being used.
Not going to be practical.
I hope you have a CCS2 charger on it to test the adapter
40 kw at 240v is around 160 A which is not available to domestic properties , 63 A is around 16 kw at 240 v
It is three phase or 400V*63A*sqrt3 e.g. 41kW
@@rkan2If you're going to start throwing figures around, at least get them right.
240 volts single phase is 415 Volts when 3 phase is used, not 400.
@@deang5622 That depends which country you are in, as officially them single phase voltages could be 220-240V outside the ~100V single phase countries. In Europe single phase is generally between 220-240V, but officially 230V. Typically then 400V is used.
You are not much better throwing numbers around ;)
@@rkan2 No it does not depend on which country you are in. I proved it mathematically as part of my degree at university many years ago.
If the nominal voltage is 240 volts then the phase to phase voltage in a 3 phase system is 415v.
This is not up for discussion. It's a fact. It can be easily proven mathematically, either using trigonometrical functions or using complex numbers.
Note I said nominal. In the UK the nominal voltage is 230V RMS which gives a phase to phase of 400V. In practice the voltage in the UK is not 230, it is still 240 and all we did was change the specification of the voltage, the nominal voltage and the tolerances to bring us into line with the EU, we didn't actually change the supply voltage as that would have required extensive transformer changes across the country.
When we talk about supply voltages we always talk about the specified voltage, the nominal voltage and not a measured voltage on the actual supply line which is subject to variation throughout the day with load.
So any country specifying their nominal supply voltage as 230 volts, and operating a 3 phase system, the phase to phase voltage (the voltage across any two phases) is 400 volts. And that is independent of country.
@@deang5622Ok, cool story bro. There is also another misunderstanding. I think the op was referring to some other country's nominal voltage. In dalaland single phase nominal is 230V and not 240V. Thus three phase 63A and not some single phase they were referring to.
Maybe you can use mid voltage (which powers the transformer now)? Crazy project - love it ❤
Good luck, it’s scary. Take care of yourself
Utterly bonkers project. Extremely interesting though.
I am curious as to why you would need so much capacity? Could you also add a running tally of your costs?
You have a new subscriber btw. I am looking to add a shit ton of battery capacity as cheaply as possible to my solar arrays.
Anything you can do to show that is truly appreciated. I will watch some more of your vids. Just found you today! Keep up the crazy work!
Mad Scientist! Love it
Everybody needs to have toys
I would always think in these high power charger + battery bank to find a way to get that DC from the used ev batteries directly into suitable DC rail on the charger/power supply. Generally seems pointless to do DC-AC, AC-DC conversions along the way.
But then it might be not as easily plug and play as it would be with battery packs and inverters just “normally” feeding that kempower monster :)
Nice Wallbox (or rather groundbox)
Have you checked with Elbilmek in Norway about your Nissan Leaf problems ? They might be able to help you since they have worked with Nissan Leafs before. They are also supporting Bjorn Nyland now too.
I have no Nissan LEAF problems!
I have an old leaf that has 20kwh capacity . I would love to use it to power my house . Can you tell me if this is possible ? 400kw battery is massive :) your so knowledgeable
Have you already looked through his videos, maybe there can be something interesting to be found.
Wow, Amazing project. But is there enough demand for this huge fast charging „Park“? I don’t know where you live but as gar as I’m concerned, the best spots for fast chargers are next to highways, in big cities and on supermarket Parking spaces. In technical concerns, I’m very interested in this project but I just hope it pays off financially too :))
He lives on an island between Umeå, Sweden and Vasa/Vasa Finland. There is bridge to the main land. Nice place to visit at least in the summer time. Came out of the sea a couple of hundreds of years ago. The land rises about 100 cm per 100 years! In, maybe, 300 years some smaller rivers will change the direction and run into the country, but not from the sea.
Well, if it's any conciliation, it looks like you have 3 phase power, which is necessary to even power up a large EVSE like that. No worries, even though it's rated for 400 kW, your Nissan Leaf will only draw a maximum of 50 kw from it. That transformer should have no problem with that, if you charge at night. You will need a 3 phase power meter, to bring in the necessary power connection. Time to call your local utility!
Basically all homes in Finland have three phase power and therefore metering too.
Madness
You will have some visitors soon :) don't forget coffee machine.
Helt underbart!
Why?! Are you going to install chargers for your whole village?
Apparently 😂
Here I am wondering if I can justify the cost of upgrading my 2kw wall outlet to 7kw. 🙄
Just wait some time if it's possible, because the cheaper sodium iron batteries are around the corner. Check the homepage of Northvolt. There is some interesting reading.
What is this about... are you building your own community EV charge point for everyone to use and purchase charging?
It would probably have been simpler to have built a nuclear power generator.
Good luck, you will have your Finnish neighbors coming over when their electric Saunas goes cold. 😄
cant wait