Considering the value you've given the manufacturer with publicity and testing, they would be nuts to not send you a new production unit. Any reputable manufacturer would also want the failed one back (at their expense) to find out what went wrong.
Thanks Dala - testing this adaptor is an excellent service to the Leaf/eNV200 community. The device is very expensive but also cheaper than the alternative of adding CCS to Leaf. I recommend and would value tests of alternative adaptors. The days of Chademo public charging are numbered in Europe.
I agree, with these units on the market, the retrofitters that retrofit a CCS charger to the car (Muxan for example), asking about 3 times the price of this unit, will probably struggle to sell any more conversions now.
Hi, I've got one yesterday and I`ve been very excited, if it would work or not. First try failed, but second try on another charger worked! The adapter does a smooth job on our eNV200. Thanks a lot Dala for being avantgard!
Happy to hear from an eNV200 user. What is the largest battery size for the eNV200? Can a 62kw.hr leaf battery be used in a eNV200? I hoping this van can become a cheap and cost effective delivery van with a battery upgrade.
Thank you for an update. Great to see the manufacturer is actively developing the software to fix bugs and add compatibility to a wide range of chargers. Looking forward to see more competition in market and hopefully price of adapters will go down. I wonder if there is a warranty when buying an adapter from Alibaba. Would be a bummer if broke down like your adapter did.
I’m hoping that part of the code is monitoring the temperature inside the adapter as there are days when it gets to 30’c> in some countries and this would be a concern if it can’t get rid of the heat quickly enough. But in colder climates it would be ace if it would allow max thoughtput as 100kw would mean a 62kwh pack would be charged from 20-80% in under 30mins.
Thank you for sharing your video's and experience. Bought one for our Leaf ZE0 and tried it at a couple of places in the Netherlands and sofar it appears to be working which gives us much more "electrical freedom".
Hi Daniel. In USA here we have some of our own stations, BTCpower, build in less then 50 miles from me, Santa Ana, California. I asked manufacturer for a test unit and they looks like dont wanna provide one. Few people in usa bought it, and surprise - surprise, it doesn't work here.
The manufacturer of these is very good at fixing unsupported chargers via software updates. Log which dont work, and send the logs back to the manufacturer!
@@DalasEVRepair I wish, I don't have a unit itself... Here is basically all chargers what available thru USA avalable in one city. I forgot about chargepoint, they making his own chargers too.
Hi Dala, I have been watching your vids with interest for years and I have a simple question. I have an early LEAF (2012) with the original battery and I'm down to 7 bars. My location in Australia is Rockhampton on the Tropic of Capricorn (= hot & humid) I noticed you have a number of Australian customers on your spread sheet. My question is, who would you recommend in Australia to do a battery upgrade? I have waiting patiently for EVs Enhanced of NZ to market their 40kWh thermally managed LiFeP battery but no sign yet. Do you have any recommendations? I love what you have done for LEAF owners world wide.
Hope you find someone. If you do I would love to hear who it is. I am in the same boat, in Australia with a 7 bar 2012 Leaf. Would love to upgrade the battery but have had no luck finding a good used battery. Might be easier to import a replacement battery from Japan. If I can't find someone to do the battery swap I may have a go at doing it myself. It seems fairly straight forward with the adaptor from EVs Enhanced.
Good Car Co may be able to point you in the right direction. While they specifically import EVs to Australia, they have many contacts in the EV industry. If you find out, could you please let me know so I can recommend them?
How long does it take Dongguan Longood Technology to get them out to delivery ??? Ordered one a while back still on the 60day count down.... Hope to have some UK/Scotland tests for your spreadsheet soon !!!
I ordered one, and talking in Chinese to the guy on WhatsApp and alibaba he said the quoted time was 2 weeks… checked today since it was 2 weeks already :)
@@viraeternus am into week 3 now I think.... Although they did have Chinese new year shut down. Will gently nudge Leslie next week if it hasn't dispatched by then.
Their webpage on Ali Baba is currently saying mid April - which, TBF, is a lot earlier than it used to say - which was June. You can also apparently order 1, even though the order pricing suggests a minimum of 2 - it states min order 1 further down the page - and at the same price as 2-9.
8:15: Kitteh! 😻 Also, what we really need is some people in the US to get the CCS1 version of this adapter....It's expensive but with new charging stations lacking Chademo these days.....It might be worth the expense...
Hmm this made me want to ask for the local Nissan , Mitsubishi and Lexus brand holder to work with me to test out these adapters here in my country. Quite a lot of our chargers are Delta, and some are Cornerstone. I'm really supporting the idea of charger adapters as it would open up a lot of chargers around the country.
Did you ever test the adpter with an older triplett (i-MiEV/C-Zero/iON)? I would like to prolong the life of my mitsubishi i-MiEV of 2019 as long as possible.
Check this document, it has good info on what software version works on what charger: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Uqyb2vJoLLAhkaYuRJ3yp8TAK-YEfgthubDkoFBTI4/edit#gid=0
They have to be EXTREMELY careful! they can't send the car more power then the car was rated. it's not just a adapter rating but also a car rating. there at one time was a couple chademo chargers over 50 kw but not many. if the adapter gets a message from the car about it's maximum KW then let it set to that, if not default to 50kw. I know my 2013 Toyota RAV4 EV with the aftermarket JDEMO Chademo port should top out at 50 kw but on the faster chademo chargers it trys to go faster and isn't good since the car can't keep the battery cooled well when to high. I've had good luck at 50 - 60 KW though. I can't wait to get a CCS1 to Chademo adapter to test in USA with my Toyota RAV4 EV. I asked for a demo unit but they don't want to help, sad!
Dala, I am starting testing and gathering debug data in the USA ( NYC area) for a CCS1 to CHAdeMo adapter. Any hints or suggestions to gather data and/or get it working? So far it is a bust for Electrify America and EVGo stations. Will try at least one other later today. Have you reached out to any charging providers to get it certified on their networks? My adapter is from Dongguan Longood Technology Co., LTD, AKA - SmartLong Technologies Electronics Limited
Nomadic hippie got the EVGo working with CCS1. Use this document to see what works and doesn't, and feel free to add to it! docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Uqyb2vJoLLAhkaYuRJ3yp8TAK-YEfgthubDkoFBTI4/edit#gid=0
Anything on a Tesla SuperCharger to CCS1 to CHAdeMO ona LEAF in the US? Has anyone done that yet? I am excited just to see a LEAF actually charging on one of the opened CCS SuperChargers here in the United States. Something about using 2 adapters to get it to CHAdeMO just sounds fun. Has that happened yet & has it been documented?
I’m trying to learn how to update mine.I’ve had it for 3 days.put the thumb drive in my pc,downloaded to google drive, then formatted the thumb drive,installed my ccs2to chadamo back to thumb drive and put it in the adapter, but still not working. Am I doing something wrong?
The thumb drive shouldn't have needed to be formatted. It's possible that the adapter needs a specific format (e.g. fat32, exfat, ntfs) and formatting as anything else could mean that the adapter can't read the thumb drive anymore. Other things to look for: Make sure there is only 1 file on the drive. The file must be named My407ccs2chademo.bin The 3 way USB cable must be used to flash the adapter. The thumb drive must be connected before power.
@@The18107j in the instructions when you receive the product, it does specifically say format the thumb drive after uploading everything to the computer and then reinstalling the newest version of firmware. So that’s all done but good news I have been communicating with. Darla ev repair and he did send me the newest of the newest from where updates that when I get home tonight. I will be installing onto the thumb drive but I cannot put it on the adapter just yet because I have to wait for a little adapter that I purchased from Amazon to be able to connect the USB type C but once I get that tomorrow, I cannot wait to run around and give us a shot because it should be working on almost all the chargers after this update in my brain anyway lol we’ll see how it goes
for updating the firmware, my suggestion is to buy a USB stick from a reputable seller instead of plugging in a USB stick you got for free of unknow origin into your computer.
Old 24kWh with low state of health will have high internal resistance. It makes sense from an engineering standpoint to restrict regen on these packs, since regen braking wont put much energy back into the battery, it will just generate heat. Best way to get regen back is to put in a newer battery pack with higher state of health!
since chademo is being phased out, and i'm seeing it happen where i live in the US, and on many youtubers from the east like Bjørn Nyland from Norway, someone should just make a complete DIY upgrade kit for the leaf to completely just use the combo L1-L2 / CCS plug. or teslas NACS. Muxan has one for ccs but its way out of my budget, i'm thinking i might have to cut my loss and go back to ICE cars. unless the cars manufacturer has a free recall for this plug issue. a 62+kwh battery upgrade would help a lot but that too is way out of my budget. this issue with EVs is going to result in a new "who killed the electric car" all over again.
I disagree. I had the same thoughts as you, but the real solution is adapters like this one are a better solution as long as the price goes down. One of these adapters could be used for more than one vehicle which would be better than having it tied to one car. Imagine your LEAF gets destroyed in an accident, you could sell your adapter or get another car that could use it.
This is all just increasingly worse levels of nonsense. You already know the Muxsan conversion is really expensive and out of your budget, what makes you think someone else doing it will be significantly cheaper? How is it the manufacturer's problem to RECALL cars? Should Apple recall all iPhone 14 because of people who remorsed over not waiting for the 15 for USB-C? Paint all EVs with one brush just because of an "issue" that affects one model based on a very dated platform? If it doesn't suit your needs and you have to go back to ICE that is fair enough, but don't go looking for excuses to blame others as if somehow your problem is their fault and responsibility.
@@ashton9699 all USB connectors are not obsolete, one can still buy them all brand new, plus companies like Muxan charges way too much for simple things out of greed. its ridiculous and someone needs to put companies that do that crap out of business. also plus car manufacturers are responsible for their products (they should be) this planned obsolescence crap is a serious problem and is illegal in some countries, why not all? just saying.
Legal questions aside, full plug/protocol conversion kits willl become more of a possibility as a) J3400 inlets become available in the market and b) the open source (focci / ccs32clara) PLC projects mature and our understanding of charger behavior progresses
Thanks for your reply, I started testing charging stations in Poland. I will soon add event miarę to the list, the first 2 stations for startera. Regards
Hi Dala, thank you for all your tests and videos, very very interesting. I know your adapter is "dead", but do you know if it allows to discharge the battery and use it in V2x mode, i.e with a type 2 to schuko adapter, which would be very useful for work or campside 😊
The adapter is CCS to CHAdeMO. While the CCS port in cars has both AC and DC pins, the adapter only has DC pins. It might be possible to use CCS V2G in the future (testing required), but V2L would require a much larger adapter with an inverter. Setec Power sells a CHAdeMO V2L unit (incorrectly listed as V2H), but I suspect it's about 5 times the cost.
My Leaf e+ has never charged above 200A (70kW). I'm not sure if this is a limitation of the car or the chargers, but the adapter has also been able to sustain 200A on multiple chargers. I'd love to see evidence of a Leaf charging at 100kW.
For 100kW (250A), Chademo v1.2 protocol is needed, along with a Chademo cable actually rated for this power level. Most cables on the market only do 125A-200A. But when the stars align, the LEAF e+ can do 100kW!
@@DalasEVRepairI seen + moldes goes up to 74kw, and never seen it goes over it. But I have one more car what actually can go 100kw, Kia soul EV, but I still putting battery together for it to be able to push 100kw for a long time and not for a few minutes.
@@pashko90 Ours has gone over 75 a few times. I had it charging at 100 for a good few minutes (2nd rapid charge of the day so no rapidgate). I think its charger dependent. I'm surprised Dala says there are no 100's in Finland. There's a reasonable number over 50 in the UK and CHADaMo still going in.
@@DalasEVRepair Thanks. We'll have to forego it at the moment then although I'm not that worried here at the moment there's a a reasonable number of CHADaMO chargers around and we've never had a problem so far...
I intend to buy one and found anther supplier. Thy are called Electway. Do you happen to know them? They offer it for 680 exw. Still need to figure out shipping cost and import tax
Dala EV Repair--Thank you so much!! In early October I purchased a 2013 LEAF SL, upgraded with a 2022 62kWh battery. I am hoping to get a lot of miles with this car. My wife travels 90 miles commuting per day, using 3.75 miles/kwh and paying from home $.11/kWh. I live in south-central WA, USA and might want an adapter like this for our trips to visit my family (my Kujala brothers!) So, in the next year or so, how much "should you pay" for such an adapter, if you were me? Is there a manufacturer from South Korea or Japan you are particularly looking forward to testing their product?
There is a lot of work to be done. It is not stable now. It is not working on many chargers. You should avoid presenting it so positive. It could lead to many disappointed buyers. I would never do a round-trip at this stage of de development.
When I got mine a week ago, it didn't work on any of the chargers. Today, it works on 5 out of 8 charger types, and the manufacturer is still sending updates. Keep an eye on the spreadsheet. You might be surprised at how fast new chargers get supported.
@The18107j I am doing many tests and log-files since the last months. I know all the issues and how fast the manufacturer is reacting and doing new firmware. But we are not typical customers that only want to use it. I lo e yo see the advantages that where done, it should mentioned as it is for now. It's not a final product
@wojciechtreter7808 yes that's true. But without us testers it would never be possible for the manufacturer to test all chargers. Don't forget, this is reverse engineering without any support of chademo and ccs consortium
Yep, that's why the adapter should be much cheaper at this moment, since you not getting a finished product but actually take part in development, bringing value to the manufacturer.
I'd be very careful with this experiment until an independent organization that does testing can verify the integrity of this adapter. UL Listed or CE listed please.
Another point is, making this Adapter public on UA-cam is maybe good for clicks but it will lead to the fact that the Manufacturer of the chargers will block it. If it will be the case, thank you.
I don't think that is technically possible and I also don't see why they would like to sell less electricity. The adapter causes no harm to the charger
@EngineersFear it is so easy to block the Adapter, beleve me. We all ha e the same MAC. And no manufacturer allows Adapter. And by the way, every Adapter in causing errors due to the current Adapter. These errors are reported to the backend. I know ow it . And all these errors can initiate a service that costs money . Ergo no provider loves these adapters.
@@EngineersFear Johannes, you have a huge knowledge about ccs2chademo, as you build your own one. I know that you don't want to produce it for public because of all that CE and insurance stuff. But maybe you could help with your huge knowhow to get it more reliable 😉
@@kiaev6familyOur knowledge is open source, they have to go through the effort of "stealing" it themselves ;) re MAC address: it's configurable and even works when randomized re errors: I wouldn't be at all surprised if certain cars create all sorts of incidents. Who wants to go through all these?
@@EngineersFear that’s true, MAC can be changed easily. But the Chinese reality is one for all 😂 The cars create less problems than expected. The adapter generates currently many reports to the providers. Funny fact, when you stop the charging session at Alpitronic (sw 2.6.3) it quits it with a short red light around the CCS port. Can also seen at the logs of the station.
I have a 2011 Leaf with CHAdeMO (it doesn't work with the adapter, but that's a different issue). I think there were a few Leafs over the years sold cheaper without the DC charging port. It might be possible to pay someone to add one, but it would likely be more expensive than selling your Leaf and buying a different one with a DC port.
If you were using one of these and it somehow refused to release or bricked the charger, wouldn't you be at risk of being sued by the charger operator for damage and breaching their terms of usage? That's a €60,000 bill.
How many times in earth history has a private individual had to pay 60.000 for trying to charge their car? This seems like a very specific number, so it would seem you have an example?
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 how many times on earth has someone damaged a rapid charger by using an imported unapproved CCS to CHAdeMO adapter? It hasn't happened to my knowledge but if or when it does, we don't know what the owner of the unit would do.
If it bricked the charger, that's down to the charger manufacturer not making it robust enough. Also chargers are repairable - you wouldn't scrap it if it had a fault
@@mikeselectricstuff the costs you'd potentially be liable for aren't just for the hardware - if it's out of service for a month waiting for repair then that's another cost. I'm not saying you'd definitely get sued, it wouldn't be a good look for a charger operator to go after a customer, but I also wouldn't want to risk using an adapter unless the operators were accepting of it.
@@-cc9ye To be a bit mean, it doesn't seem to bother some charging operators that much that a charger is out of service a month or two. 😆 They cashed in the tax money/contribution to put it up, it is part of the coverage map they can brag with, and they are not making all that much net profit from actual usage, anyway.
@@DalasEVRepair the minimum order quantity is the most annoying thing Who buys 2, especially at that price, those clowns are literally telling people not to buy it
![62kWh isolation problem [FINALE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BkKc8l0CfeQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Considering the value you've given the manufacturer with publicity and testing, they would be nuts to not send you a new production unit. Any reputable manufacturer would also want the failed one back (at their expense) to find out what went wrong.
Yeah send him a new one!!!
They may of course be unaware of the scope of his reach, given none of it is in their native language.
Dala has said elsewhere that the manufacturer is sending him a replacement.
Thanks Dala - testing this adaptor is an excellent service to the Leaf/eNV200 community. The device is very expensive but also cheaper than the alternative of adding CCS to Leaf. I recommend and would value tests of alternative adaptors. The days of Chademo public charging are numbered in Europe.
I agree, with these units on the market, the retrofitters that retrofit a CCS charger to the car (Muxan for example), asking about 3 times the price of this unit, will probably struggle to sell any more conversions now.
It's about time the cats were back.
Hi, I've got one yesterday and I`ve been very excited, if it would work or not. First try failed, but second try on another charger worked! The adapter does a smooth job on our eNV200. Thanks a lot Dala for being avantgard!
Hi, feel free to add your experiences in the excel sheet that I linked in the description!
Happy to hear from an eNV200 user.
What is the largest battery size for the eNV200? Can a 62kw.hr leaf battery be used in a eNV200?
I hoping this van can become a cheap and cost effective delivery van with a battery upgrade.
this is so amazing for leaf owners! like the expression goes "When there's a will, there's a way" 💪💪
Thank you for an update. Great to see the manufacturer is actively developing the software to fix bugs and add compatibility to a wide range of chargers. Looking forward to see more competition in market and hopefully price of adapters will go down. I wonder if there is a warranty when buying an adapter from Alibaba. Would be a bummer if broke down like your adapter did.
I’m hoping that part of the code is monitoring the temperature inside the adapter as there are days when it gets to 30’c> in some countries and this would be a concern if it can’t get rid of the heat quickly enough. But in colder climates it would be ace if it would allow max thoughtput as 100kw would mean a 62kwh pack would be charged from 20-80% in under 30mins.
Thank you for sharing your video's and experience. Bought one for our Leaf ZE0 and tried it at a couple of places in the Netherlands and sofar it appears to be working which gives us much more "electrical freedom".
Good to see you had been pushing the limits. Lets hioe they send you another 🤞⚡️💯
🤞Yes!
I hope they will get Tesla Superchargers working. They are much cheaper here.
Hi Daniel. In USA here we have some of our own stations, BTCpower, build in less then 50 miles from me, Santa Ana, California. I asked manufacturer for a test unit and they looks like dont wanna provide one. Few people in usa bought it, and surprise - surprise, it doesn't work here.
The manufacturer of these is very good at fixing unsupported chargers via software updates. Log which dont work, and send the logs back to the manufacturer!
@@DalasEVRepair I wish, I don't have a unit itself... Here is basically all chargers what available thru USA avalable in one city. I forgot about chargepoint, they making his own chargers too.
I have one ordered and once I have it I imagine I’ll need to test it with the dcfc units in western canada. I imagine it will need some testing first
@@pashko90 I've ordered one and will be sending the logs, if you arent willing to put out the effort and risk some money, you don't get to complain
I have a ZE1 in the Netherlands, going to test the adapter within a few weeks.
How did it go?
Thanks for covering the topic.
Love the cat,
Hi I am really interested in this sort of adapter. When the price comes down a bit I will buy one. Thank you for you great informative videos.
I'm just going to wait for China to copy it and sell it way cheaper
On the adapter's alibaba page it says 200A max which explains the 80 kW limit on 400V charging
Thx, most likely good news
Hi Dala, I have been watching your vids with interest for years and I have a simple question.
I have an early LEAF (2012) with the original battery and I'm down to 7 bars.
My location in Australia is Rockhampton on the Tropic of Capricorn (= hot & humid)
I noticed you have a number of Australian customers on your spread sheet.
My question is, who would you recommend in Australia to do a battery upgrade?
I have waiting patiently for EVs Enhanced of NZ to market their 40kWh thermally managed LiFeP battery but no sign yet. Do you have any recommendations?
I love what you have done for LEAF owners world wide.
Hope you find someone. If you do I would love to hear who it is. I am in the same boat, in Australia with a 7 bar 2012 Leaf. Would love to upgrade the battery but have had no luck finding a good used battery. Might be easier to import a replacement battery from Japan. If I can't find someone to do the battery swap I may have a go at doing it myself. It seems fairly straight forward with the adaptor from EVs Enhanced.
Good Car Co may be able to point you in the right direction. While they specifically import EVs to Australia, they have many contacts in the EV industry.
If you find out, could you please let me know so I can recommend them?
How long does it take Dongguan Longood Technology to get them out to delivery ??? Ordered one a while back still on the 60day count down.... Hope to have some UK/Scotland tests for your spreadsheet soon !!!
I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on with it. I'm considering one myself to use here in the UK.
I ordered one, and talking in Chinese to the guy on WhatsApp and alibaba he said the quoted time was 2 weeks… checked today since it was 2 weeks already :)
@@viraeternus am into week 3 now I think.... Although they did have Chinese new year shut down. Will gently nudge Leslie next week if it hasn't dispatched by then.
Their webpage on Ali Baba is currently saying mid April - which, TBF, is a lot earlier than it used to say - which was June.
You can also apparently order 1, even though the order pricing suggests a minimum of 2 - it states min order 1 further down the page - and at the same price as 2-9.
Mine took almost a month to leave the factory, then 3 days to deliver.
The company is very good at replying to emails.
8:15: Kitteh! 😻
Also, what we really need is some people in the US to get the CCS1 version of this adapter....It's expensive but with new charging stations lacking Chademo these days.....It might be worth the expense...
Hmm this made me want to ask for the local Nissan , Mitsubishi and Lexus brand holder to work with me to test out these adapters here in my country. Quite a lot of our chargers are Delta, and some are Cornerstone. I'm really supporting the idea of charger adapters as it would open up a lot of chargers around the country.
I can't wait to get there CCS1 adapter for USA
Thanks Dala
Why is minimum order 2 units?
This means we have to club together with another leafer to buy?
Send them a message... They will let you order a single unit. The fella just handcodes the invoice through the app.
I ordered a sample unit and they sent me one. I'm not sure why the minimum is 2, but you can definitely buy just 1.
Did you ever test the adpter with an older triplett (i-MiEV/C-Zero/iON)? I would like to prolong the life of my mitsubishi i-MiEV of 2019 as long as possible.
That was just my question, I am considering a C-Zero as a second car but it would be a considerable benefit if it could charge at CCS chargers...
I received my adapter yesterday.. So far the chargers I have tried have not worked.. I am confident the compatibility will slowly increase..
Check this document, it has good info on what software version works on what charger: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Uqyb2vJoLLAhkaYuRJ3yp8TAK-YEfgthubDkoFBTI4/edit#gid=0
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They have to be EXTREMELY careful! they can't send the car more power then the car was rated. it's not just a adapter rating but also a car rating. there at one time was a couple chademo chargers over 50 kw but not many. if the adapter gets a message from the car about it's maximum KW then let it set to that, if not default to 50kw.
I know my 2013 Toyota RAV4 EV with the aftermarket JDEMO Chademo port should top out at 50 kw but on the faster chademo chargers it trys to go faster and isn't good since the car can't keep the battery cooled well when to high. I've had good luck at 50 - 60 KW though.
I can't wait to get a CCS1 to Chademo adapter to test in USA with my Toyota RAV4 EV.
I asked for a demo unit but they don't want to help, sad!
Dala, I am starting testing and gathering debug data in the USA ( NYC area) for a CCS1 to CHAdeMo adapter. Any hints or suggestions to gather data and/or get it working? So far it is a bust for Electrify America and EVGo stations. Will try at least one other later today. Have you reached out to any charging providers to get it certified on their networks?
My adapter is from Dongguan Longood Technology Co., LTD, AKA - SmartLong Technologies Electronics Limited
Nomadic hippie got the EVGo working with CCS1. Use this document to see what works and doesn't, and feel free to add to it!
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Uqyb2vJoLLAhkaYuRJ3yp8TAK-YEfgthubDkoFBTI4/edit#gid=0
Anything on a Tesla SuperCharger to CCS1 to CHAdeMO ona LEAF in the US? Has anyone done that yet? I am excited just to see a LEAF actually charging on one of the opened CCS SuperChargers here in the United States. Something about using 2 adapters to get it to CHAdeMO just sounds fun. Has that happened yet & has it been documented?
I’m trying to learn how to update mine.I’ve had it for 3 days.put the thumb drive in my pc,downloaded to google drive, then formatted the thumb drive,installed my ccs2to chadamo back to thumb drive and put it in the adapter, but still not working. Am I doing something wrong?
The thumb drive shouldn't have needed to be formatted. It's possible that the adapter needs a specific format (e.g. fat32, exfat, ntfs) and formatting as anything else could mean that the adapter can't read the thumb drive anymore.
Other things to look for:
Make sure there is only 1 file on the drive.
The file must be named My407ccs2chademo.bin
The 3 way USB cable must be used to flash the adapter. The thumb drive must be connected before power.
@@The18107j in the instructions when you receive the product, it does specifically say format the thumb drive after uploading everything to the computer and then reinstalling the newest version of firmware. So that’s all done but good news I have been communicating with. Darla ev repair and he did send me the newest of the newest from where updates that when I get home tonight. I will be installing onto the thumb drive but I cannot put it on the adapter just yet because I have to wait for a little adapter that I purchased from Amazon to be able to connect the USB type C but once I get that tomorrow, I cannot wait to run around and give us a shot because it should be working on almost all the chargers after this update in my brain anyway lol we’ll see how it goes
Yes fat32 format only
@@nomadichippieInteresting. You must have been given newer instruction. Mine had nothing about formatting.
Good luck!
for updating the firmware, my suggestion is to buy a USB stick from a reputable seller instead of plugging in a USB stick you got for free of unknow origin into your computer.
Daniel, can the p2337 update be reversed (uninstalled). I read it reduced my 2011 regenerative capabilities.
Old 24kWh with low state of health will have high internal resistance. It makes sense from an engineering standpoint to restrict regen on these packs, since regen braking wont put much energy back into the battery, it will just generate heat.
Best way to get regen back is to put in a newer battery pack with higher state of health!
since chademo is being phased out, and i'm seeing it happen where i live in the US, and on many youtubers from the east like Bjørn Nyland from Norway, someone should just make a complete DIY upgrade kit for the leaf to completely just use the combo L1-L2 / CCS plug. or teslas NACS. Muxan has one for ccs but its way out of my budget, i'm thinking i might have to cut my loss and go back to ICE cars. unless the cars manufacturer has a free recall for this plug issue. a 62+kwh battery upgrade would help a lot but that too is way out of my budget. this issue with EVs is going to result in a new "who killed the electric car" all over again.
I disagree. I had the same thoughts as you, but the real solution is adapters like this one are a better solution as long as the price goes down. One of these adapters could be used for more than one vehicle which would be better than having it tied to one car. Imagine your LEAF gets destroyed in an accident, you could sell your adapter or get another car that could use it.
This is all just increasingly worse levels of nonsense.
You already know the Muxsan conversion is really expensive and out of your budget, what makes you think someone else doing it will be significantly cheaper?
How is it the manufacturer's problem to RECALL cars? Should Apple recall all iPhone 14 because of people who remorsed over not waiting for the 15 for USB-C?
Paint all EVs with one brush just because of an "issue" that affects one model based on a very dated platform?
If it doesn't suit your needs and you have to go back to ICE that is fair enough, but don't go looking for excuses to blame others as if somehow your problem is their fault and responsibility.
@@ashton9699 all USB connectors are not obsolete, one can still buy them all brand new, plus companies like Muxan charges way too much for simple things out of greed. its ridiculous and someone needs to put companies that do that crap out of business. also plus car manufacturers are responsible for their products (they should be) this planned obsolescence crap is a serious problem and is illegal in some countries, why not all? just saying.
Legal questions aside, full plug/protocol conversion kits willl become more of a possibility as a) J3400 inlets become available in the market and b) the open source (focci / ccs32clara) PLC projects mature and our understanding of charger behavior progresses
I live in Florida and am testing the same unit at the moment
How safe is it to use in pouring rain?
I would say technically it is quite safe. Incase the charger/vehicle would notice an insulation leak from HV-GND, the charging stops.
Hello Dala! Any comment on Nissan pulling the plug on the pre 2016 telematics? Is there a way to upgrade the media center? Cheers from Germany!
Please resch out to Nomadic Hippie who is trying tp get the US adapter going
Sent them an email!
Thank you Dala! Nomadic Hippie is I think the first one to test in North America so it is really appreciated!!
@@DalasEVRepair thank you. He was a big fan of your videos.
Daniel, how can I insert my updated list of tested chargers into this Excel file?
Click edit, it will prompt a request to edit!
Thanks for your reply, I started testing charging stations in Poland. I will soon add event miarę to the list, the first 2 stations for startera. Regards
Hi Dala, thank you for all your tests and videos, very very interesting.
I know your adapter is "dead", but do you know if it allows to discharge the battery and use it in V2x mode, i.e with a type 2 to schuko adapter, which would be very useful for work or campside 😊
No, this is DC
The adapter is CCS to CHAdeMO. While the CCS port in cars has both AC and DC pins, the adapter only has DC pins.
It might be possible to use CCS V2G in the future (testing required), but V2L would require a much larger adapter with an inverter.
Setec Power sells a CHAdeMO V2L unit (incorrectly listed as V2H), but I suspect it's about 5 times the cost.
My Leaf e+ has never charged above 200A (70kW). I'm not sure if this is a limitation of the car or the chargers, but the adapter has also been able to sustain 200A on multiple chargers.
I'd love to see evidence of a Leaf charging at 100kW.
For 100kW (250A), Chademo v1.2 protocol is needed, along with a Chademo cable actually rated for this power level. Most cables on the market only do 125A-200A. But when the stars align, the LEAF e+ can do 100kW!
@@DalasEVRepairI seen + moldes goes up to 74kw, and never seen it goes over it. But I have one more car what actually can go 100kw, Kia soul EV, but I still putting battery together for it to be able to push 100kw for a long time and not for a few minutes.
In Japan there are some 150kW Chademo chargers up to 350A. Here Leaf e+ can charges with 100kW.
Here is Leaf e+ charging ~100kW from a 150kW chademo in Japan: ua-cam.com/video/t_k5HXFcAVE/v-deo.html
@@pashko90 Ours has gone over 75 a few times. I had it charging at 100 for a good few minutes (2nd rapid charge of the day so no rapidgate). I think its charger dependent. I'm surprised Dala says there are no 100's in Finland. There's a reasonable number over 50 in the UK and CHADaMo still going in.
Any chance the adapter could be tuned to let the Leaf Plus get closer to the 100KW max charging rate?
What's Nissan's attitude to this? Our battery pack still has a lot of time left to run. Also is the cost coming down?
The manual clearly states using adapters voids the warranty. My warranty expired 5 years ago, so I'm not that worried 😅
@@DalasEVRepair Thanks. We'll have to forego it at the moment then although I'm not that worried here at the moment there's a a reasonable number of CHADaMO chargers around and we've never had a problem so far...
I intend to buy one and found anther supplier. Thy are called Electway. Do you happen to know them? They offer it for 680 exw. Still need to figure out shipping cost and import tax
This is an upcoming brand, no testing performed in EU yet. Excpect a 3+month period before software on these units mature enough
@@DalasEVRepair thx for your swift reply
Wouldn't it be better and less expensive if each station on highway would get an adaptator ccs to chademo?
Dala EV Repair--Thank you so much!! In early October I purchased a 2013 LEAF SL, upgraded with a 2022 62kWh battery. I am hoping to get a lot of miles with this car. My wife travels 90 miles commuting per day, using 3.75 miles/kwh and paying from home $.11/kWh. I live in south-central WA, USA and might want an adapter like this for our trips to visit my family (my Kujala brothers!) So, in the next year or so, how much "should you pay" for such an adapter, if you were me? Is there a manufacturer from South Korea or Japan you are particularly looking forward to testing their product?
I am really looking forward to the Electway adapter, but no clue on pricing!
On a side note Dala, ever figure out a way to (even slightly) increase the top speed of the leaf? Tired of being limited to 100mph
E+ 160kW inverter raises max rpm from 10500 -> 11330
Has anyone tried it with a Mitsubishi I miev?
Works on the old Mitsubishi Outlander, so hopefully also yhe imiev!
Have you bought a new one?
I got a new one under warranty! 😁
@@DalasEVRepair nice! I’m following the Google sheet along and considering also getting one as well.
There is a lot of work to be done. It is not stable now. It is not working on many chargers.
You should avoid presenting it so positive. It could lead to many disappointed buyers. I would never do a round-trip at this stage of de development.
When I got mine a week ago, it didn't work on any of the chargers. Today, it works on 5 out of 8 charger types, and the manufacturer is still sending updates.
Keep an eye on the spreadsheet. You might be surprised at how fast new chargers get supported.
@The18107j I am doing many tests and log-files since the last months. I know all the issues and how fast the manufacturer is reacting and doing new firmware. But we are not typical customers that only want to use it.
I lo e yo see the advantages that where done, it should mentioned as it is for now. It's not a final product
Looks like people are paying the manufacturer for doing beta tests for him 😂
@wojciechtreter7808 yes that's true. But without us testers it would never be possible for the manufacturer to test all chargers. Don't forget, this is reverse engineering without any support of chademo and ccs consortium
Yep, that's why the adapter should be much cheaper at this moment, since you not getting a finished product but actually take part in development, bringing value to the manufacturer.
I'd be very careful with this experiment until an independent organization that does testing can verify the integrity of this adapter. UL Listed or CE listed please.
Another point is, making this Adapter public on UA-cam is maybe good for clicks but it will lead to the fact that the Manufacturer of the chargers will block it. If it will be the case, thank you.
I don't think that is technically possible and I also don't see why they would like to sell less electricity. The adapter causes no harm to the charger
@EngineersFear it is so easy to block the Adapter, beleve me. We all ha e the same MAC. And no manufacturer allows Adapter. And by the way, every Adapter in causing errors due to the current Adapter. These errors are reported to the backend. I know ow it . And all these errors can initiate a service that costs money . Ergo no provider loves these adapters.
@@EngineersFear Johannes, you have a huge knowledge about ccs2chademo, as you build your own one. I know that you don't want to produce it for public because of all that CE and insurance stuff.
But maybe you could help with your huge knowhow to get it more reliable 😉
@@kiaev6familyOur knowledge is open source, they have to go through the effort of "stealing" it themselves ;)
re MAC address: it's configurable and even works when randomized
re errors: I wouldn't be at all surprised if certain cars create all sorts of incidents. Who wants to go through all these?
@@EngineersFear that’s true, MAC can be changed easily. But the Chinese reality is one for all 😂 The cars create less problems than expected. The adapter generates currently many reports to the providers. Funny fact, when you stop the charging session at Alpitronic (sw 2.6.3) it quits it with a short red light around the CCS port. Can also seen at the logs of the station.
I don't think this will work on a 2013 leaf. Chat o mo isn't on 2013. How do you get chat o mo installed on a 2013 leaf?
I have a 2011 Leaf with CHAdeMO (it doesn't work with the adapter, but that's a different issue). I think there were a few Leafs over the years sold cheaper without the DC charging port. It might be possible to pay someone to add one, but it would likely be more expensive than selling your Leaf and buying a different one with a DC port.
If you were using one of these and it somehow refused to release or bricked the charger, wouldn't you be at risk of being sued by the charger operator for damage and breaching their terms of usage? That's a €60,000 bill.
How many times in earth history has a private individual had to pay 60.000 for trying to charge their car? This seems like a very specific number, so it would seem you have an example?
@@geirmyrvagnes8718 how many times on earth has someone damaged a rapid charger by using an imported unapproved CCS to CHAdeMO adapter? It hasn't happened to my knowledge but if or when it does, we don't know what the owner of the unit would do.
If it bricked the charger, that's down to the charger manufacturer not making it robust enough. Also chargers are repairable - you wouldn't scrap it if it had a fault
@@mikeselectricstuff the costs you'd potentially be liable for aren't just for the hardware - if it's out of service for a month waiting for repair then that's another cost. I'm not saying you'd definitely get sued, it wouldn't be a good look for a charger operator to go after a customer, but I also wouldn't want to risk using an adapter unless the operators were accepting of it.
@@-cc9ye To be a bit mean, it doesn't seem to bother some charging operators that much that a charger is out of service a month or two. 😆 They cashed in the tax money/contribution to put it up, it is part of the coverage map they can brag with, and they are not making all that much net profit from actual usage, anyway.
Was looking at buying one of those for my Leaf
Until i saw the price and the fact that i have to buy 2 of them
I hope china copies and undercuts you
Not my adapter dude! I hope so too, 3 companies will have adapters for sale soon!
@@DalasEVRepair the minimum order quantity is the most annoying thing
Who buys 2, especially at that price, those clowns are literally telling people not to buy it
@@mwbgaming28 You can order just 1, message them!
@@DalasEVRepair shouldn't have to, why wouldn't they just set the minimum quantity to 1 and save all the BS
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